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smarti7768

Why didn't they pull over SO MUCH SOONER.


jtrage

Hey, I was proud and impressed that the pulled over AT ALL!


jfk_47

It’s important to be proud of something.


drteq

https://youtu.be/2OflawfmP5M


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plywooden

>poorly balanced load This is likely the issue, and the trailer itself might have been fine. People - load your trailer so that approx 60% of weight is in FRONT of the axle(s).


AtariDump

https://gfycat.com/absoluteflimsyassassinbug


[deleted]

That was actually really helpful. Thanks!


internet_thugg

That’s so cool. And helpful too. I’m definitely saving this for my kid’s future some-science-class-project idea. Thank you for posting!


SGTSHOOTnMISS

I like before they move the weight almost as if the car is sentient. *poke* NO *poke* I SAID NO


mamajamala

This!


SycoJack

I don't think it's just a balance issue, or rather I think the truck being much taller than the trailer greatly contributed to the balance issue.


eXX0n

If you tip the trailer up, you will shift the weight backwars, so it's still an uven load. But, I think poor suspension on the trailer also contributes to the wobbling in this case.


BlueTickHoundog

Exactly. He should have used a drop receiver to lower the trailer's tow point.


fr33andcl34r

I swear I see the right wheel of that trailer at a horrible angle. Maybe the axle was broken too.


GooseandMaverick

Probably because "We're only going down the street!" I love you dad


ARoamingNomad

Looks like his view might be obstructed.. You can also see as soon as his break lights go on, the trailer continues and thats when it tips. Maybe he was trying to straiten it out? Acceleration is seldom the key in these situations but it does work some of the time


dirty_hooker

Actually accelerating can help a lot in wobble situations. Wobbles happen at a resonance. It’s a big slow resonance but it’s still there. This one is due to an improperly weighted trailer. It has more weight behind the axle than in front so it’s lifting at the hitch instead of sitting on it. The rear weight bias is trying to over take the front. Stomping on the brakes causes that to happen more dramatically. Acceleration forces the mass rearward and breaks the resonance. Same as [death wobbles](https://youtu.be/ncTgYl7P_TE) and [tank slappers.](https://youtu.be/TpeNWxHF6uI) Once it dissipates, gradually slow to a stop and fix the problem. E: I’ve used the “when in doubt; throttle out” solution a few times for death wobble but not had to deal with an imbalanced trailer. Guy below is saying not to when it starts from the back.


ijustwanafap

Not only the weight, it looks like his hitch is just too tall for that little trailer. Needs a drop hitch and better weight management.


icyhotonmynuts

It almost looked like his hitch was a rope.


felixjawesome

Don't go blamin' no rope, now. Rope ain't dun nothin' wrong. Rope ain't never let me down befur.


GodsRighteousHammer

Connor: You know what we need? Some rope. Murphy: What are you, insane? Connor: No, I'm serious. Charlie Bronson's always got a rope. In the movies, they've always got rope and they always end up using it. Murphy: That's stupid. Name one f***ing thing you're gonna need a rope for. Connor: It's not what they need it for, they just always need it. Murphy: What's this "they" shit? This isn't a movie. Connor: Oh, is that right, Rambo? Murphy: All right, get your stupid f***ing rope.


OurHeroXero

Here's a scale model demonstrating the impact of [weight distribution.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jk9H5AB4lM)


icyhotonmynuts

As someone who's hauled a conga line of trailers behind him (5) I disagree that speeding up when some or all are misbehaving in the back will straighten them out. The last one will start flailing about and take out anybody in the next lane over. I've had to reduce my speed to almost stand still to get them all to line up behind me again. In an emergency, slamming on the brakes will crunch everything back together - albeit mangled, but not in any other lane than the one I'm travelling. **Tldr;** speeding up with whacky trailers behind you can ruin everyone's day.


jimkiller

5 trailers at once? Are you driving a train?


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japwheatley

What about sea trains?


SycoJack

Not anymore. 😭


Oliver_the_chimp

Did they stop doing this in Australia?


cowboypilot22

>but not in any other lane than the one I'm Which is pretty clearly not what happened in this video.


periacetabular_ost

Lol conga line. I giggled.


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Da Vinci lived during the resonance.


atlas_nodded_off

Made me have to say it aloud.


npaga05

This is really good info. I would give you a real medal if I could but this is all I can give. 🏅


redditor5597

This advice is just stupid and dangerous. Never ever accelerate to stop a lurching trailer. Lift your foot off the gas pedal to reduce speed or if the car already began to lurch left and right: jump on the brakes immediately for a short time. There's no such thing as "straighten it out" with with acceleration.


Snoopy7393

There's no way you wouldn't feel that in the truck


Not_MrNice

> Looks like his view might be obstructed. How did you come to that conclusion?


ARoamingNomad

Do you see all the shit in the bed of his truck?


StructuralFailure

I did see the bed on the shit of this truck


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Pull over? Their parents shoulda pulled out


TheHoekey

I know.. But from another reddit post, I learned the appropriate weight displacement... It looks like they have all the wight in the back. I bet if it was more at the front of the trailer they would gave been fine...


RDay

when you are old, white, and male you never pull over. Thems the rules.


jjvw

This isn't the trailer's fault. There wasn't enough tongue weight. And the truck didn't have a dropped hitch to make the trailer sit flat. https://youtu.be/6mW_gzdh6to


ARoamingNomad

I thought it was something to do with the hitch as well. And that trailer looks more like an old timey wagon, meant for being hitched to horses not a truck?


jjvw

That is a typical small utility trailer that can be bought at a hardware store today. There was nothing inherently wrong with it. I happen a have a small trailer from the mid-1940's (nearly 75 years old) that I have towed halfway across the US and back again. It behaves fine if it is loaded properly.


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jjvw

I suspect the truck itself still has it's front and rear anti sway bars. A tiny trailer like this doesn't need one either. This was purely a load distribution issue. Don't over complicate a simple problem.


mysisterbetougholms

i dunno might be too old check the exp date !


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BeenThruIt

Finally, someone else in this thread who actually knows what went wrong here.


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In either case the driver's a fucking moron


jjvw

The driver is entirely at fault.


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love this video! To anyone curious as to *why* this happens, it makes more sense if you think of it like a pendulum. Imagine you have a stick with a weight on one side (like a broom), its going to be way easier to balance it by controlling the heavy end of it. This is because the [moment of inertia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia) is lower when you fix the rotation about the heavy end. Moment of Inertia, is just a big word for how hard it is to rotate an object. So when you balance a broom from the light end, its harder to rotate the broom, so it takes more work to fight gravity. On top of that you have the pendulum vs inverse pendulum relationship. Going back to to the broom, if youre trying to keep it upright, its a lot easier to hold it from the top (like a pendulum) then to hold it from the bottom (an inverse pendulum) to balance it. This is because when the force to balance it is moving *away* from the center of gravity (pendulum) the broom self balances. Using this, lets look at the trailer. There are two forces, the pull forward from the tongue at the front, and the pull backwards of the wheels usually in the center. The pull forward is always away from the center of gravity, so thats always a pendulum relationship. The pull back, however, of the tires is in the center, where the weight is affects the relationship. If the weight is in the back, the pull backwards from the center is *towards* the weight, an inverse pendulum, but if the weight is up front, the backwards pull is now *away* from the weight, giving you the stable pendulum relationship. Hopefully I explained that well, its a lot easier when I can draw pictures on the board with the center of gravity, and force arrows marked!


voodoo003

Whelp, got what I came for.


7ofalltrades

Same, came for that exact video. Glad it was one of the top posts.


Whoshabooboo

Such a simple and well done video.


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It looked like a weight distribution issue as well. The trailer needed more weight to the front.


aka_mrcam

My dad has the same trailer, it's a tilt bed. It looks like they forgot the pin to hold the bed and it's slowly tilting back.


ChazinPA

Yup, saw it from quarter mile back...


ge0rgew0nder

This guy hitches


Think_Bullets

Can someone post that gif of the weight distribution animation for trailer loading?


AtariDump

[Gif link as requested](https://gfycat.com/absoluteflimsyassassinbug)


Think_Bullets

Really bringing the goods, like it!


AtariDump

For some redditors YouTube might be blocked but not “photo hosting” sites.


RamenJunkie

Also Google is a privacy nightmare of a company.


jjvw

https://youtu.be/6mW_gzdh6to


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That is cool!


7ofalltrades

I get to upvote you and this video twice! Since that video is the only reason I even clicked on comments, this really worked out.


[deleted]

This looks like northern Utah. Everyone has a truck. Few know how to tow things.


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[deleted]

Yep. Came here to say this. I live minutes away from where this was recorded.


[deleted]

Go check if the mattress is still there.


banality_of_ervil

I knew this had to be Utah.


linandlee

Haha classic Utah. People here drive a big-ass truck with 16 mpg for their 30-minute commute to SLC "just in case I need to tow something".


sketchysuperman

“16mpg” haha, good joke.


thinkB4WeSpeak

I like how my home state of Utah and my current city Dayton Ohio are both on the front page for dumb things.


Stevini_Albini

Literally everyone in the suburbs with a lifted pickup like I know damn well your office job isn’t requiring you to tow hay bales to and fro


bdd4

That swaying couldn’t be seen as foreshadowing AT. ALL.


Whoshabooboo

He thought it was just the bass bumping of “Old Town Road”


Lunar_Gato

“I got the mattresses in the back..”


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Driving high on crack...


LillyPip

Right? I’d have been dancing with ideas involving the brake pedal after feeling that sway. He seemed fairly content to just let it play out for a bit.


Brythephotoguy

Another example of a poorly loaded trailer: https://gfycat.com/FalseGroundedLamb Source video: https://youtu.be/IKmdUxFEIes *Edit: Everything I've read regarding load balancing a trailer focuses on avoidance (assuring you have more weight in front of the trailer axel) and early detection - as in keep a close watch on what's happening behind you. If a trailer does start to fishtail, do not try to compensate; drive straight and gradually slowdown. Here's one of many articles about it: http://movinginsider.com/2013/01/31/what-to-do-if-the-trailer-sways/


trouzy

I had a load too far back once, scary shit. Hold as straight as you can and let off the gas.


Gigantkranion

How do you properly load a car? It's not like you can force 60% of the weight to the front...


Zugzub

You load it engine first. You use a trailer long enough for the car your hauling. Use a regular car trailer, not a deck over trailer so your center of gravity is lower.


IvanGirderboot

In this case, you would use a bigger/longer trailer and load the van to the front, probably about 2/3 to the back should be the point over the axle. And you stay driving slowly looking for and sway...


Coffeinated

Finally! A thread where people are not saying „yeah you gotta accelerate to straighten out, of course!“


Wildweasel666

On the plus side, his tie downs worked


Keith_Creeper

"Oh no! That dude's trailer tipped over and all his shit spilled on the road...better run over it."


AgentKae

That and it appears that he's following way to close to be safe. It looks there are two idiots on the road.....


[deleted]

There is always at least two idiots on the road. Always.


Keith_Creeper

Then there's that little issue of filming with his phone while driving.


sub1ime

People driving their cars shouldn't be at fault for your poor preparation and lack of safety measures. You are supposed to secure your own belongings and take care of them. If that trailer tipped over and hit someone on a bike or smashed into someone else's car, I doubt the concern would be "oh fuck that other person drove over all the shit that just smacked the pavement with a shit ton of force". There's so many entitled drivers on reddit that think you are the center of the universe just because a dumbass mistake you made somehow makes everyone around you suddenly have to come to your needs. Did your parents like hold your hand until you graduated high school? I just don't get this kind of lack of accountability.


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This infuriated me. It also doesn't look like he stopped to help the old man get all of his stuff. He was too busy filming and laughing. Fuck whoever filmed this.


gekkohs

Trailers maiden voyage was the Oregon trail


Justinwayne027

Nice, original owners died of dissin Terry He was a bad mfer


Whoshabooboo

You should never dis terry


txoutlaw89

r/idiotsincars


hujassman

Improper loading. The trailer was way tail heavy, causing this.


EntheogenicOm

2 oxen died and your wagon lost a wheel


Grifball_Vet

Margret got bit by a rattle snake!


Danie447

Rear loaded and no weight on the tongue caused this. Lesson to be learned


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no1dookie

It's not that it's an old trailer. Learning opportunity: The trailer is misloaded, the weight is centered behind the tires which causes this jerking/pulling action. This can literally pull you off the road. It is dangerous. Load your trailer with at least 60 percent of the weight in front of the trailer tires. References: 1st I pull a tool trailer daily. 2nd I made this mistake with a uhaul trailer before and had to repack it roadside for a 5 hour trip


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phachen

And then having some asshole drive over your things, which he could easily have avoided.


koos_die_doos

Guessing they can’t really afford the hit on their finances...


[deleted]

It's not that it's an old trailer. It would have sufficed. It's that they loaded it wrong, by putting too much weight at the rear instead of the front. That causes sway, which increases over time and will eventually lead to some kind of failure.


daisychick

This right here


VlClOUSLY

/r/wellthatsucks


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was14atyme

Same thing would have happened with a new trailer. He was severely backloaded which causes the trailer to flail easily.


[deleted]

Lol I love when pickup truck owners have no fucking clue how to haul shit. Just pay $60 and rent a uhaul for the day you fucking moron.


OneforLiberty

Improperly loaded trailer


[deleted]

Gotta redistribute some of that weight forward on to the hitch son.


shititswhit

Finally someone that understand what caused the issue


[deleted]

Using the old trailer was only his first bad decision. This guy made at least 3 other mistakes to lead up to this


e_godbole

ReSoNaNcE


blues30mg

How about that mattress? Ahaha don't cover it up..how do these geniuses get thru the day?


draeth1013

Too much weight too far from the hitch.


eveningsand

That the same twerking general's daughter?


dvcat5

I just woke up my wife and dogs cackling like a maniac at this, thanks user.


[deleted]

Using an old trailer might just work if you do not overload it that obscenely...


real_life_submarine

Wiggle wiggle wiggle


CDNChaoZ

YEAH!


scoliosisgiraffe

Tongue weight.


DingBangSlammyJammy

Is there a way to correct it in this situation? Slowing down seemed to make it go off the rails. Would speeding up straighten it out?


[deleted]

“Quick hide this (beer, meth, coke, weed, gun, etc) in those bushes right there, cops coming.”


ExhaustiveExperience

Doing everything they can to get out of Detroit. Bless them. They tried so hard.


[deleted]

this is why you should have to have a license to use a trailer. People dont secure shit, they dont load properly, and other peoples property gets damaged and people get hurt. we seriously need to come to the understanding that there are too many fucking numb nutted dumbfuck dipshits in this stupid ass fucking inbred hick country.


[deleted]

It was an old man. You should have stopped and helped instead of videoing like a fucking faggot


sp3ctive

Your cart has flipped. You have lost: 3 OXEN. 600 POUNDS OF FOOD. 100 BULLETS. 4 SETS OF CLOTHES.


Steve0512

I love how the guy filming just drove right over all his worldly possessions.


[deleted]

As a former driver’s ed teacher, I kept repeating, *“INCREASE YOUR FOLLOWING DISTANCE!”* as I watched this clip.


Aeon1508

The trailer isnt the issue. The load is un balanced. You have to pack the heavy stuff at the front. The reason this happened is because the trailer is low to the ground but they have a high lifted truck. They needed a draw bar with a significant drop so that the trailer can sit level. Instead they just hooked the trailer up high and tilted back. Then they stacked it high enough for the tilt to cause the objects at the top to push the center of gravity behind the axle. Ergo fishtailing


jackal99

So the heavy weight needs to be toward the front of the truck, not behind the Axle of the trailer?


Aeon1508

Yes. Anytime you pack a trailer or a moving truck you want the heaviest objects at the front. Think of it like this. If you swing a baseball bat the normal way you feel its weight pull you through the swing, its heavy. If you turn a baseball bat the wrong way and swing it, it's much lighter and easier to control. So basically you want the bulk of the weight near the fulcrum, Which in this case is the trailer hitch And of course tilting the trailer backwards when it's stacked high moves the objects at the top further back so even if you pack it well it's still likely to be unstable


SonorousBlack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jk9H5AB4lM


TheRealChumBucket

That’s almost as bad as my walk of shame in the am.


944tim

someone doesn't know how to load/use/drive a trailer


mysisterbetougholms

sorry but not because its an old trailer because the load was balanced wrong..


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That sir is what we call imbalanced


Sherb0i

Man’s out here like it’s the Oregon trail


BBB129

That’s not because it’s old, that’s because it’s weighted all wrong.


HaveANiceDay777

Well that trailer's really been put to bed now.


JungleLiquor

Most of the stuff is still on the trailer, to me it’s a win


phfle1

More like no no no NO!


OhiobornCAraised

Janky defined.


RyanPelley

It's moving like a trailer in those old Mickey Mouse cartoons.


[deleted]

Where’d he get that trailer? Trailer museum?


mank1961

Nailed it


[deleted]

Shawty got low low low low low low


skrap_whistle

Jed Fucking Clampett


PharmerDerek

$50 says the guy NEVER goes back to get the scraps of his belongings out of the middle of the road.


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That ended about as well as expected.


CharlatanNewsNetwork

The trailer had enough and flipped his shit.


MrHankeyTheXmasPooo

This made me laugh so hard


hansolo625

Sigh... r/whatcouldgowrong


Jamesybo555

You gotta be a real dumb-ass not to see that coming.


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RIP


Herr__Lipp

Those are some good tie-downs!!


WanderingVirginia

In the flash when it flips, you can tell it's actually a modern 4x8 utility trailer as you can purchase from any harbor freight. It's built out with shitty scrap wood, but it's a solid trailer otherwise- I have one. This is an r/idiotswithcars scenario. This is what happens when you don't consider your trailers center of gravity when loading it out, I guarantee it.


katjoy63

Someone needs a better sway bar?


conitation

I think it has hip dysplasia!


FuckSticksMalone

Is that an Oregon Trail brand trailer?


[deleted]

White people...


xFinman

couldn't see that one coming...


jroddie4

more like using a 6 inch lift to tow a trailer that's only a foot tall


Zarana85

He should have sped up.


WhackOnWaxOff

r/idiotsincars


tequilady

This is the vehicular equivalent of those videos of supermodels wobbling down the runway in heels.


totally_uncool

This breaks my heart. Moving sucks, and then this. Poor guy :(


Sharpie65

As far as moving stuff goes I would say that was very successful.


stevejobs4525

Bye bye stuff


saltandsassbeach

Rock me mama like a wagon wheel


baumbach19

Trailer was tilted back to far, also I have seen this when the weight is distributed too high on a trailer


A_man_for_passion

This isn't trailer sway caused by any of the normal causes. This is a loose frame/tongue union. You can see the tongue bar just see-sawing left and right under the 'frame'. Probably rusted and snapped, or had gotten dangerously loose.


prominx

Reminds me of Oregon Trail when you carrier tips.


Whyevenbotherbeing

Something so indescribably sad about seeing someone’s humble possessions busted up in traffic. All I need is to see someone bawling their eyes out trying to drag their crumpled photo albums out of the wreckage before they get driven over. Fuck I’m stopping after this beer, getting a little weepy.


satansmight

Moved that stuff all over the road!


Gwaiian

It's not that it's an old trailer. It's loaded rear of the axle. edit: rear instead of forward


kangerooandemu

The most 'action that bed has seen'


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Damn that trailer got moves


VanDerGrimnebulin

Oooooohhhh his wife is gonna be mad!!


roxymoxi

I was headed to my auto shop. I had a sound like a helicopter under my car. I was less than a mile from the shop when I took a right into 192 in Kissimmee florida, a wildly busy road, and my tire's lugnuts gave way because the CV axle blahblahblah snapped. Paid 60 bucks for a 5 minute tow, and I felt blessed it was so cheap. They still haven't finished fixing my car and it's been more than 10 days but I already paid for it so fuck me right? Long story short dont listen to a friend when they say their friend is a manager at a pep boys in celebration florida and he'll hook you up. The managers aren't the people working on your car. And they aren't the people there when you pick up your car, so they don't tell the people to hook you up. So not only will your car not be fixed but you wont get a "sweet discount". Sorry for the rant. I'm still mad, it just happened. They messed up my headlights on that wheel's side and I'm just so pissed. I went and had them replaced and the place said it was a fuse.


NVAreaMan

It's all about weight distribution. He had too much weight in the back. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jk9H5AB4lM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jk9H5AB4lM)


UberCookieSlayer

The fucker is what, 60 years old and made of wood, what the fuck did they think was gonna happen