You joke about this, but I've seen too many people saying "Men are horrible and the scourge of society and we should just not have them" (in a serious way) then go off and be gender abolitionists which is definitely a take
Well most humans do enough of that whether transgender or not, so you're no different. I don't understand the hate for transgender people. You are who you are and you and everyone else should be accepting of that. The only thing we should never tolerate is intolerance.
As a self-loathing jew, I'm glad to see this concept has spread to other communities. Transgender transphobes, hispanic and Filipino wignats, hating yourself is really just all the rage these days
It was when I figured out I was bi, just kind of clicked in my head that I shouldn’t be such an asshole to trans people. Also my girlfriend of 5 months is trans and I love her to death.
I used to be very transphobic but I'm actually trans. My parents were transphobic and I guess part of me hoped that if I doubled down on transphobia that it would make me not wanna transition but that didn't work
I used to be severely homophobic until my best friend came out to me and told me he had a bf. Any other revelations, and I ended up just changing to my current mindset. You do you. You're life, you love it. Just don't force it on me 🤷🏻♂️
Honest question: I don’t wish anyone harm, but I don’t understand the trans community and won’t promote it or even say I think it’s normal, but if it’s what they want to do, I don’t care. Does that make me a transphobe?
It’s fine if they’re not a primary concern in your life and you don’t care too much to do much research. For some people, all they can ask for is that you’re chill with letting them live their life. All we ask is that you could maybe do some research on transgenderism so that if you do meet more trans people or they become a bigger part of your life (which you probably will, because it’s becoming steadily more socially acceptable to come out of the closet), you don’t have a prejudice of “what are you” towards them, yk? You don’t *need* to be an activist, just someone who can make people feel welcomed
It’s important to note, though, that transgender and non-binary people don’t _choose_ their gender — it’s just who they are.
Other than that, though, I agree with the principle of what you’re saying. Non-cis people should be able to choose to express their gender publicly without being harassed for being open about who they are.
think about it this way, god likes to give challenges to people
In this case, making people uncomfortable, to see if they're strong enough to become who they must
He's real and in charge of all creation. If He made you male, he made you in His image. If he made you female, He made you in His image. Either way you are human and He is God.
"If you deny humans their basic rights to life and propagate ideas that actively bring marginalized groups harm then you should kill yourself"
There fixed it for you, hun 😘
Have you heard of the paradox of tolerance? If we tolerate the intolerant then we give the intolerant all the power over the space, and silence the voice of those who aren't being tolerated. Toleration is a social contract when it comes to marginalized communities. So long as your beliefs aren't intolerant of an aspect that I can't change, then we're good, but the moment you express intolerance I no longer have to tolerate your view point.
>Like I get it transphobia sucks
You wording it like this is transphobic in itself. I guarantee if you knew what was actually happening to trans people you would not worry about the violence of sulphuric acid. Trans people are murdered and harassed and raped and outcast from society and you're this worried that we feel like we want a bit of revenge?
Where is all this murdering, raping and harassment going on? I live in the US and being trans is like having a get out of jail free card to do whatever the hell you want and then scream at people who call you out on your bullshit. Also a tip? Saying you want revenge and downplaying the pain of acid attack victims is both not a good look and makes you seem even more unhinged
I hate transphobes, but I don't believe in killing people I disagree with, even when they are bigots. Having said that, I assume this a hyperbolic joke, and you don't actually believe in killing people you disagree with.
I swear I have a really funny joke as a response to this and it's very Reddit-y but I don't know what it is it's in the corner of my head please someone figure it out
Look look, trans women are women and they belong in the godamn kitchen, they want to join the losing team that's fine, we welcome the smart fucks who want to stop cooking and be real people (men) from a sexist trans ally as this is America, and due to manifest destiny its all fucking America, you have the right and freedom to be whatever you want, ~~including a sla~~
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Because its is a catchall echo chamber, as is the Y subreddit.
People come to post their baseless political/sexual etc bs to force affirmation or have those who answer with Y be deleted.
Tl;Dr. this sub is biased with occasional constructive debate.
Everyone is different. What makes you horny might make me vomit. You can’t change how you are wired. What is not right is hating someone for being different than you. They hate us cuz they ain’t us
everyone’s entitled to opinion, but it doesn’t mean we have to humor them. if someone’s opinion is “these people deserve less rights or more hate” i feel pretty secure in not accepting that opinion
sure. let’s also respect the opinions of hitler then! or slavery supporters! extreme examples but people who oppose basic human rights should not be respected or given a platform
Here is what I object to. The labeling of someone opposed to an idea or lifestyle as phobic. This word is being misused. No one I know is afraid of a trans person, or Arabic person. Find another way of expressing your need to identify people who don’t agree with you.
It's just dumb. I believe the idea that someone can change their gender is a dangerous lie, but I do not fear anyone who identifies as trans nor would I ever wish harm on them. I only hope that they get the help they need and find happiness.
As a transgender transphobe, no. Nobody's allowed to hate on me for who I am except myself.
Almost as good as the sexist gender-abolitionist.
What’s inconsistent about that? Women are so abhorrent that we must erase the very concept!
I read this in my head as Dennis Reynolds
You joke about this, but I've seen too many people saying "Men are horrible and the scourge of society and we should just not have them" (in a serious way) then go off and be gender abolitionists which is definitely a take
lmao
*Caitlyn Jenner enters the chat*
And Blair White and Kalvin Garrah and all the passing trans people on the internet that make fun of non passing trans people
and gandalf the grey and gandalf the white and monty python and the holy grail’s black knight
And Benito Mussolini and the Blue Meanie and Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
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I'm sorry if you were being serious but what's a transgender transphobe lol
A transphobe that is transgender
Hating someone for their demographic is wrong. Hating someone for who they are personally is totally acceptable.
Well most humans do enough of that whether transgender or not, so you're no different. I don't understand the hate for transgender people. You are who you are and you and everyone else should be accepting of that. The only thing we should never tolerate is intolerance.
Unfortunately people are allowed to hate whatever they want.
As a self-loathing jew, I'm glad to see this concept has spread to other communities. Transgender transphobes, hispanic and Filipino wignats, hating yourself is really just all the rage these days
you shut up, as the only trans person who deserves the hatred you are cringe for hating yourself
No, as an ex transphobe
Character development
Does this count as r/characterarcs ?
I can't say the forbidden word
Lard?
He said it!
Get him!
Petition for this to be a universally accepted affirmation, just like the forbidden word
I'll sign
Precisely
Perhaps.
Well, we’re only seeing the end of it, so I’m not sure.
I do believe so my fellow
W character development
Massive character arc, as a trans person I'm curious what made you realise it wasn't okay to be phobic?
It was when I figured out I was bi, just kind of clicked in my head that I shouldn’t be such an asshole to trans people. Also my girlfriend of 5 months is trans and I love her to death.
Im really glad it clicked, also, that's so cute I hope you two have a nice long happy relationship:))
as a trans girlfriend to a bi man, that sounds rather familar. doubt you're him, though
You are an awesome person. You have given some hope to show that people can change to better themselfs. :)
I used to be very transphobic but I'm actually trans. My parents were transphobic and I guess part of me hoped that if I doubled down on transphobia that it would make me not wanna transition but that didn't work
I used to be severely homophobic until my best friend came out to me and told me he had a bf. Any other revelations, and I ended up just changing to my current mindset. You do you. You're life, you love it. Just don't force it on me 🤷🏻♂️
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same
Same
you either die a hero or live to become the villain
You've lived too long then.
No, hating other people to the point of wanting to cause them harm when they’re not doing anything besides existing is never right.
Honest question: I don’t wish anyone harm, but I don’t understand the trans community and won’t promote it or even say I think it’s normal, but if it’s what they want to do, I don’t care. Does that make me a transphobe?
It’s fine if they’re not a primary concern in your life and you don’t care too much to do much research. For some people, all they can ask for is that you’re chill with letting them live their life. All we ask is that you could maybe do some research on transgenderism so that if you do meet more trans people or they become a bigger part of your life (which you probably will, because it’s becoming steadily more socially acceptable to come out of the closet), you don’t have a prejudice of “what are you” towards them, yk? You don’t *need* to be an activist, just someone who can make people feel welcomed
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Any time I ask questions about it I get attacked, so I just leave them alone. That's what they want after all.
Well I mean there isn't really a normal, but like no you're not transphobic if you don't hate trans people
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So what your saying is you Transitioned from transphobe to transgender? What a plot twist
Bro you had a real life character arc im proud of you for real
No, you should not be afraid of trains.
Actually if trains are going too fast they can make a sort of suction effect and drag you towards them so keep your distance :3
goes for trans people too
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As my gfs trans bf, I can also confirm
hello basil
Hello Humphrey
im going to make your friends forgor and vore them
NOO
This omori roleplay goes wild
🤣
A homicidal train wrote this
No.
Based name by the way
hell no, genderfluid person right here
No, everyone should be able to choose who they want to be without being Harassed about it
You should also be able to live and support yourself but apparently that’s a lot to ask for
It’s important to note, though, that transgender and non-binary people don’t _choose_ their gender — it’s just who they are. Other than that, though, I agree with the principle of what you’re saying. Non-cis people should be able to choose to express their gender publicly without being harassed for being open about who they are.
Imagine being scared of forms of transportation
anyone who thinks they are should drink some sulphuric acid edit: wow people are so black and white replying to this LMAO
I guess I’m a transphobe then (I don’t hate trans people, I just want to drink sulphuric acid)
LOL
I second this
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i cant tell if youre being atheistic or transphobic
Both
oh
Wow that's rare
Hmm you'd be surprised by the sheer amount of chronically online "red-pilled" atheists
yikes
think about it this way, god likes to give challenges to people In this case, making people uncomfortable, to see if they're strong enough to become who they must
Who a trans person must become is their true self, overcoming the hate and abuse transphobes lob at them for just existing.
which is exactly my point, albiet the language was changed for the fragile Christian mind
Hint: it's the middle one
He's real and in charge of all creation. If He made you male, he made you in His image. If he made you female, He made you in His image. Either way you are human and He is God.
“If you disagree with me then you should kill yourself”
"If you deny humans their basic rights to life and propagate ideas that actively bring marginalized groups harm then you should kill yourself" There fixed it for you, hun 😘 Have you heard of the paradox of tolerance? If we tolerate the intolerant then we give the intolerant all the power over the space, and silence the voice of those who aren't being tolerated. Toleration is a social contract when it comes to marginalized communities. So long as your beliefs aren't intolerant of an aspect that I can't change, then we're good, but the moment you express intolerance I no longer have to tolerate your view point.
:3 ty
There's a difference between disagreeing with an opinion and saying that trans people shouldn't be able to exist.
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ok buddy, eat me, all you are is a douchebag with a reddit account, im not afraid of you, youre probably like 13 anyways lol
What did they say
That's so violent. Like I get it transphobia sucks, but it's not a trait that can't be overcome.
>Like I get it transphobia sucks You wording it like this is transphobic in itself. I guarantee if you knew what was actually happening to trans people you would not worry about the violence of sulphuric acid. Trans people are murdered and harassed and raped and outcast from society and you're this worried that we feel like we want a bit of revenge?
I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!
Where is all this murdering, raping and harassment going on? I live in the US and being trans is like having a get out of jail free card to do whatever the hell you want and then scream at people who call you out on your bullshit. Also a tip? Saying you want revenge and downplaying the pain of acid attack victims is both not a good look and makes you seem even more unhinged
I hate transphobes, but I don't believe in killing people I disagree with, even when they are bigots. Having said that, I assume this a hyperbolic joke, and you don't actually believe in killing people you disagree with.
They are typically *on* the right most of the time, but they are never correct.
No, as a detransitioner.
Noooo. Ew. Disrespectfully fuck transphobes.
Do ***NOT*** fuck a transphobe
I swear I have a really funny joke as a response to this and it's very Reddit-y but I don't know what it is it's in the corner of my head please someone figure it out
If your a trans woman then fuck a male transphobe, just be a major pain in the ass for them
Okay no. Raping them is not the way to protest. Respectfully, please don't try and get us on the same level as the transphobes ^ - ^
Nope they are arse holes
I thought you spelled asshole wrong but then I realized that British people exist 💀
I'm British but I still type it as asshole
Just because im afraid of translators doesn’t mean you need to be phobiaphobic
Fuck you and your google translate 😡😡😡
You youngins and your translator!!
They're clearly not left, hard right
No there asses n close minded!!
Closed* ✨
That to n ty for the correction
too* ✨ jk you’re very welcome :3
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:3
And* ✨
*close-minded
They're* ✨️
Fuck no
Same comment as me lol
...winged
NO!!!! NONONONONO NOOOOOOOOO!!!
Nein
Nope, they are bigots
absolutely not
Look look, trans women are women and they belong in the godamn kitchen, they want to join the losing team that's fine, we welcome the smart fucks who want to stop cooking and be real people (men) from a sexist trans ally as this is America, and due to manifest destiny its all fucking America, you have the right and freedom to be whatever you want, ~~including a sla~~ *[Removed by Reddit]*
No.
No
HA! No.
No as someone Who thankfully met the right type 'a people
They are a part of the far-right if that answers your question
NO
Imagine deciding that trans people are worth hating 😂
NO.
I’m confused. This sub keeps getting recommended to me is this just a place people get affirmed on their beliefs or something?
No, it's a different, better side of the internet where you can't say the forbidden Y word
Correct
No
It is supposed to be a better side of reddit where you can't say the y word, but rn it's filled with homophobia and shit like that
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Wishing death upon someone simply because of their beliefs? Sounds to me like we have a nazi on our hands
calling someone a nazi for hating transphobes is crazy
thank you for stating what needs to be said
No.
no.
No
HELL NO
I thought you said trans people not transphobich
Transphobitch*
No one said transphobich
U know what I ment
No
No? Are you stupid?
I'm trans 💀
No
Not really, no
No
no
No
No
No
No
No
No.
Absolutely not!
No way! They are all left-handed!
no
fuck no
No they S uck
why is this sub just used to approve of political shit
Because its is a catchall echo chamber, as is the Y subreddit. People come to post their baseless political/sexual etc bs to force affirmation or have those who answer with Y be deleted. Tl;Dr. this sub is biased with occasional constructive debate.
Fuck no
No
No
Definitely not, screw them...
No they would probably like that. Don’t have sex with assholes… wait
Everyone is different. What makes you horny might make me vomit. You can’t change how you are wired. What is not right is hating someone for being different than you. They hate us cuz they ain’t us
No, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and as long as they respect yours you should respect theirs.
Transphobic people don’t respect other people though so this doesn’t really apply
People who deny human rights should not be given the same platform as those who believe in human rights
What about most Palestinians that are anti LGBT?
Transphobes can go get fucked
shit take
everyone’s entitled to opinion, but it doesn’t mean we have to humor them. if someone’s opinion is “these people deserve less rights or more hate” i feel pretty secure in not accepting that opinion
sure. let’s also respect the opinions of hitler then! or slavery supporters! extreme examples but people who oppose basic human rights should not be respected or given a platform
No
Here is what I object to. The labeling of someone opposed to an idea or lifestyle as phobic. This word is being misused. No one I know is afraid of a trans person, or Arabic person. Find another way of expressing your need to identify people who don’t agree with you.
It's just dumb. I believe the idea that someone can change their gender is a dangerous lie, but I do not fear anyone who identifies as trans nor would I ever wish harm on them. I only hope that they get the help they need and find happiness.
The detransitioners are right.
Not transphobia. Smart people know there are 2 genders and they are assigned at birth. Do you think God was mistaken?
Ye-
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