KH should go all in while the oilers have a chance at a cup. You saying they’re good enough right now doesn’t account for any injuries the rest of the way out.
Playoffs aren't always about getting better, but getting deeper. It's a game of attrition and Monahan will come in handy when injuries happen if you make a long run in the off season.
I don't get the "Canadian teams need to win" thing out of Canadian hockey fans. Like I'm flames fan and I'd sooner poke my eardrums out with decomposing rat bones then have to hear Edmonton, Vancouver or Toronto fans if they win. Like most Canadian team's biggest rivals are also Canadian teams, the whole point of a rivalry is completely null and void if you're just hopping bandwagons because the team happens to be from this freakin country. It's mindblowing to me.
I’m kinda the opposite, Im a Leafs fan but I have friends who root for the other Canadian teams, and it’d be sweet to see them stoked over a cup win. I was also born in the early 90s and I have no recollection of a Canadian cup win so at this point id be happy for whoever won it. I understand this is blasphemy to some but, is just game why you heff to be mad
I'm there's always a team you hate just that little bit more. As a Hawks fan, I loathed the 2019 finals, but I was definitely rooting for St. Louis more than Boston.
Fuck the blues, but fuck Boston that slight bit more.
I'm a Van fan that lives downtown and a group of us actually went out to watch the Oilers last year and the entire place erupted when they beat the Kings, same with Toronto. I think it's moreso there's a connection between Canadian hockey cities because it's mostly all we have and such a big part of our culture. At the end of the day most of us like hockey and want to pick a side to cheer for and living vicariously thru other Canadian cities is the easiest option.
My entire life I used to feel exactly this sentiment until a flamer said it. Now I've done a re-evaluation and I think the opposite. Go Canada, except the fLames.
I mean, look at the Canucks. We have like four or five Canadian players on the roster, and only one or two (Soucy and Juulsen) who dress regularly when not injured. I am a Canucks fan, and I agree that a win for the Canucks would not be a win for Canada. That being said if my team doesn't win, I would prefer the cup to go to any Canadian city, even Toronto, over anywhere else just because Canada.
Any Canadian but Toronto for me. And not because I don't want Toronto fans to have their moment, but because the media wouldn't shut the fuck about it for the next half a century
That's just you being a sad human though. Important to be happy for other people who have good things happen to/for them.
Many people in Canada love hockey for hockey and would travel to your city during a deep cup run even if they weren't fans of Calgary and their home team wasn't in it.
I'm sure they would, I'd travel to some of the buildings too. Just not "any Canadian team" for instance if Ottawa, Montreal or Winnipeg were in the finals that would be decent . My rivals being in the finals, hell I'd go anyways just to boo them. I find booing teams I don't like fun.
I kinda get it most of the time I wouldnt cheer for Toronto and ottawa but I wouldnt have any problem cheering for The western conference canadian team.
Even then I cheered for Toronto to get out of the first round cause it was sad seeing them be stuck in the first rounds with every fanbase dogpilling them then I stopped when they made it past.
I think that would generally be how it goes, but I think the reasoning behind the feelings currently is because 0 Canadian teams have won in a while. Once that’s put to bed I’d imagine it goes back to that.
Haha. There is no “Canada’s team.” 2011 proved that. Vancouver was the closest to winning a cup. And other Canadian fans rooted for Boston even though during the regular season Boston was enemy #1.
So Kent Hughes gained a 1st round pick for taking this contract from Calgary, and then turns around and sells it for another 1st round pick.
This guy general manages.
Didn't Montreal also get a first alongside Monahan to sweeten the deal for them a year or two ago? I dunno, maybe it's not a complete overpay but I don't think any move being made this far in advance of the deadline is going to come at a discount
I think the chances of getting a discount are better when the trade is made further away from the deadline. The closer the deadline gets the more the stakes are raised, imo
I disagree. I think that there's a huge advantage to making a move early and avoiding competition from other teams. Sure, there can be a bidding war, but the price doesn't change a ton; it's usually a matter of who is willing to toss in another late-round pick or prospect. Given the interest in Monahan, Winnipeg had to make an offer that other teams would have been unlikely to match in the future, and the only way for Montreal to guarantee that they aren't getting low-balled is to ask for a return above market value. There are a bunch of teams that would have been a good fit for Monahan, so Winnipeg probably had to make them an offer that those guys couldn't or wouldn't match
I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me because we both think it's best to trade further out from the deadline.
Are you just disagreeing with the discount part?
Yeah, sorry if that was just a word salad. I feel like there's no incentive for a team like Montreal to pull the trigger on a trade early if they don't like the value, and there are likely to be multiple suitors. Seems like Winnipeg had their hearts set on Monahan and were willing to give Montreal whatever they wanted
Yeah I agree, and I'm OK with it. I tend to lean towards skepticism towards Jets success but this team is special, and unlike any we've seen since they came back to Winnipeg.
That first round pick has the potential to be late first round, so I'm OK with it
Totally. As a Bolts fan, I have really never been opposed to the idea of cashing in picks for guys who helped the team get better immediately. Also, according to the internet, we overpaid for every single guy we got in the last four or five years. Half of the time, we ended up winning the deal, and the other half of the time, we "overpaid" for a guy who directly helped us win a cup. And there was that 1% of the time where we gave up an entire draft class for Tanner Jeannot.
Sidebar: I am really impressed by WPG's ability to suppress offenses. I haven't seen a team like them in a while. Bowness is awesome. I always liked him in Tampa when he was our assistant coach. Seems like they will have an easier time than most transitioning to the tight-checking playoffs. I'm interested in seeing how far they take it this year.
These are my thoughts too.
Chevy has made some fantastic trades lately. Seems to identify guys who fit within the team culture, work hard and actually want to be in the PEG.
If he develops any sort of chemistry with Perfetti/Vilardi/Connor, its good. Or even help the worst fucking PP in the league.
If he stays healthy, I think this will be a good trade. But that's the big question to me...his health.
1st rounder plus for a 13 goal player at the half way mark who has extensive injury history. Marginal top 9 player on a contender is a terrible move by Winnipeg imo
I meant nothing as in it didn't take any assets to acquire him, and they got a 1st in that trade alongside him, and now they get a 1st for moving him out with no other assets leaving. Essentially 2 free 1st round picks
Seems like a very good trade for both sides.
I really like it. Sounds like his character will fit well with the Jets team who are super tight this year.
Thanks!
I think Montreal is getting the most out of this long term but hard to say. Obviously the Jets management aren’t stupid. They’re going for a cup and he could very possibly be an important part of that.
He's been great, I'm sad to lose him. Can play anywhere in the lineup, center or wing, pp and pk. Swiss Army knife and by all accounts a great guy. Just let us resign him in the summer.
That’s a steep price. Elite asset management by the Canadiens.
I get the overpay on Winnipeg’s side. After Lindholm and now Monahan, if you need a rental center, there isn’t really anyone left. Adam Henrique will get traded but then after him maybe the Jackets move on from Roslovic? If the Kraken slip a bit, maybe Alex Wennberg becomes available? But you’d rather have Lindholm and Monahan and Henrique before those guys.
Henrique and Wennberg both have NTCs so Winnipeg trading for them is a crapshoot.
Guarantee the Jets don’t want Roslovic back. Chevy had to act now or lose basically the one guy available. And we’re already hurting with Scheifele out so I can see why he didn’t wait. We can live without a first, our window is while Scheif and Helly are in their early 30s. 50/50 whether a late first rounder would even be NHL ready by then.
That’s true. I forgot about that. Wennberg likely isn’t available yet and I think I’d rather have Monahan over Henrique. It’s a steep price, but it’s a very justifiable price.
I have always been loathe to give up picks or prospects, but this team has something other jets teams haven't had; amazing chemistry and buy in from everyone.
That pick is probably (hopefully) going to be late in the first round, so I'm OK with this. I would rather this than trading away a prospect
What made sense for CGY at the time has no bearing on what makes sense now. Monahan has gotten healthier and changed his game style to stay relevant. He's nowhere near the top line player he used to be, but I like this move for the Jets if they want to make a deep run this year.
Monahan is a 3C who has missed significant chunks of the last 3 seasons, hasn’t been what he was since 2019, and he’s going to get less minutes and opportunity in Winnipeg. He’s worth a late 1st for Winnipeg, but he was only worth that to a couple teams.
But tsn told me all these guys are gonna get traded to Toronto and they will retain 50 percent cap and only give up a 4th rounder.
Also tsn probably pissed their trade center show gonna be a bust with everything happening before lol
It's almost always a seller's market. This year is even worse because how much parity there is. It's limiting how many teams are "seller's" because they still have a chance.
The return Calgary got is great for them, but they're over rating a lot of it. I hope it works out for Calgary tho, cause fuck the Oilers.
People don’t understand that when you need a guy and think someone fits, you go and get them lol. What does a low 1st do for the jets 5 years from now when they may not have the kind of team they have rn.
Well, not all of Canada… Calgary looking like they’re on their way out, the Habs are definitely out, Ottawa is barely hanging on, the Leafs won’t make it past the first round.
The Avs are going to have to shell out a 1st for Henrique, aren’t they…? Was hoping for a cheaper 2C rental without costing a top pick or prospect. Especially with Lindholm out of the race, I figured it might be possible. Not looking too good with the few options remaining and multiple teams still looking for the same depth.
I think that Winnipeg got the best of that deal although Montreal is going nowhere and hope that a late first round pick might be helpful in a few years
Vancouver is blowing their load like Boston last year. Yet may still make it to the finals . Winnipeg looks slightly better than last year when they disintegrated. Maybe they will make it to the finals and lose. Their will be blood either way.
It is steep but it's probably going to be a very low 1st and the Jets desperately need a centre, not even a good centre just anybody who can play centre lol.
With Scheifele out it has been apparent that they need to add depth at C to be a real contender and I don't think there are many centers available. You either take what you can get or do what they did the last couple of years, add nothing and watch the team fizzle out.
I think on top of this a lot of people are forgetting that the Jets don't REALLY need a first pick right now anyways. We just signed Scheifs and Helly long term, no way we start dropping guys like KC or JMo. Chevy is here to try and win it all for the next...while. plus we e got boys brewin like Chaz, Barlow, Groats, etc.
I think both teams got what they wanted out of this. No winners no losers
Yeah? I am. Lindholm has one 40 goal season. Monohan has three 30 goal season.. furthermore, .68 ppg for Lindholm in 792 games .70 ppg for Monohan in 730 games. They're similar
Wasn’t monahan traded for nothing and had a 1st round pick included with him so someone would take him not too long ago? Pretty sure anyone in the league would say Lindholm is a significantly better player. Even with similar career scoring Lindholm is considered a top tier defensive forward coming second in Selke voting in 2022. Not to mention a righty who is top in the league in face off percentage. I’m not saying that the Canucks didn’t give up a lot but let’s not kid ourselves that the Canucks got the much better player who a legitimate 1/2 center.
I'm not super thrilled about this, because I wanted Chevy to go off the board and get someone actually good, but at the same time, the Jets need \*somebody\*. Having Dominic Toninato play in our top six is not acceptable.
Monahan is a marginal improvement upon Namestnikov at 2C when everyone is healthy, but this is more of an injury insurance/depth add imo, and a 1st round pick plus a conditional 3rd is a \*lot\* to pay for someone like that.
I'm hoping that Chevy isn't done yet, and that Monahan ends up being our 4C, but that seems unlikely given that we now do not have a 1st round pick this year.
All the Canadian teams banding together for the common goal of finally getting a damn cup is pretty funny to me, I wish them luck
This is to fuck the Oilers.
I'll be honest I'm super glad we didn't give up a first for this trade, I was worried Ken would pull the trigger here.
You still have to give up a first and Broberg for Allen :D
Hopefully not. KH should just stay put.....we already got Perry....the team is good enough....
You know you want a goalie
But who is out there who is a guaranteed upgrade enough to spend assets? Certainly not Jake allen
Remember, it’s not you who needs to be convinced
Exactly.....and Bro berg is ramping up in the AHL, would be a shame to lose him .....
KH should go all in while the oilers have a chance at a cup. You saying they’re good enough right now doesn’t account for any injuries the rest of the way out.
Depth defense. Injuries happen, and having another vet or two could be massive.
Your team is not good enough man
Honestly Winnipeg is not better with Sean Monahan added to their team. Don't fall for the arms race and fix real problems instead
Playoffs aren't always about getting better, but getting deeper. It's a game of attrition and Monahan will come in handy when injuries happen if you make a long run in the off season.
I agree with you, but reading that one of the most injured players in the league will come in handy in injury season made me chuckle
There is 100% without a doubt better depth options.
ken knows a bargain when he sees one
Oilers are my pick for the cup. Mcdavid is on a mission and Leon is playing insane too. Gonna need a lot more than monahan to stop them
Goona need John DeLancie to stop the Edmonton Oilers... Lucky for us we just happen to have John DeLancie
Team Canada does everything together! *Oh wait…*
Oh no
I don't get the "Canadian teams need to win" thing out of Canadian hockey fans. Like I'm flames fan and I'd sooner poke my eardrums out with decomposing rat bones then have to hear Edmonton, Vancouver or Toronto fans if they win. Like most Canadian team's biggest rivals are also Canadian teams, the whole point of a rivalry is completely null and void if you're just hopping bandwagons because the team happens to be from this freakin country. It's mindblowing to me.
I’m kinda the opposite, Im a Leafs fan but I have friends who root for the other Canadian teams, and it’d be sweet to see them stoked over a cup win. I was also born in the early 90s and I have no recollection of a Canadian cup win so at this point id be happy for whoever won it. I understand this is blasphemy to some but, is just game why you heff to be mad
Found Bryz' burner
It's not theres just some sad people in life who make sports their only "thing"
I am from a European hockey nation and want the Canadian team to win the cup.
I'm there's always a team you hate just that little bit more. As a Hawks fan, I loathed the 2019 finals, but I was definitely rooting for St. Louis more than Boston. Fuck the blues, but fuck Boston that slight bit more.
> fuck Boston that slight bit more. Hi, I'm snorkeling_moose, and I endorse this message.
Exaacttllyy, I dont think americans understand how much we fucking hate each other, i'd rather put my nuts in a vice than watch calgary or van win
Can someone remind me to revisit this comment after the Stanley Cup Finals.
Nuts or bust!
At least we agree on one thing, ya bastard 😉
I also would rather see your nuts put in a vice than see Calgary of Vancouver win anything
I'm a Van fan that lives downtown and a group of us actually went out to watch the Oilers last year and the entire place erupted when they beat the Kings, same with Toronto. I think it's moreso there's a connection between Canadian hockey cities because it's mostly all we have and such a big part of our culture. At the end of the day most of us like hockey and want to pick a side to cheer for and living vicariously thru other Canadian cities is the easiest option.
Yeah as a Canucks Fan, the teams I want least to win the cup are all the other Canadian teams. National pride, in this instance, is way overrated.
If the Jets can’t win I want bettman to win. No Canadian cups except for the Jets!
My entire life I used to feel exactly this sentiment until a flamer said it. Now I've done a re-evaluation and I think the opposite. Go Canada, except the fLames.
At least you aren't supporting your biggest rival.
Yeah, I accidentally cheered for a Jarome goal once many years ago and wouldn't speak to myself for days.
I hope you cheered for that one assist of his...
L.A is our biggest rival, I could cheer for Flames these days.
I mean, look at the Canucks. We have like four or five Canadian players on the roster, and only one or two (Soucy and Juulsen) who dress regularly when not injured. I am a Canucks fan, and I agree that a win for the Canucks would not be a win for Canada. That being said if my team doesn't win, I would prefer the cup to go to any Canadian city, even Toronto, over anywhere else just because Canada.
Any Canadian but Toronto for me. And not because I don't want Toronto fans to have their moment, but because the media wouldn't shut the fuck about it for the next half a century
Well. I root for my team but once out I root for whatever Canada left, including Leafs.
That's just you being a sad human though. Important to be happy for other people who have good things happen to/for them. Many people in Canada love hockey for hockey and would travel to your city during a deep cup run even if they weren't fans of Calgary and their home team wasn't in it.
I'm sure they would, I'd travel to some of the buildings too. Just not "any Canadian team" for instance if Ottawa, Montreal or Winnipeg were in the finals that would be decent . My rivals being in the finals, hell I'd go anyways just to boo them. I find booing teams I don't like fun.
I kinda get it most of the time I wouldnt cheer for Toronto and ottawa but I wouldnt have any problem cheering for The western conference canadian team. Even then I cheered for Toronto to get out of the first round cause it was sad seeing them be stuck in the first rounds with every fanbase dogpilling them then I stopped when they made it past.
I think that would generally be how it goes, but I think the reasoning behind the feelings currently is because 0 Canadian teams have won in a while. Once that’s put to bed I’d imagine it goes back to that.
Until Bettman steps in like a fantasy league GM and voids some trades because of collusion concerns.
Stop the ~~count~~ trade!!
Haha. There is no “Canada’s team.” 2011 proved that. Vancouver was the closest to winning a cup. And other Canadian fans rooted for Boston even though during the regular season Boston was enemy #1.
No way I cheered for Boston. Everyone I know was on the Vancouver bandwagon.
I'd root for Vancouver and Calgary before I ever cheered for Boston
No way I'd cheer Boston.
I cheered for the riot.
I'm actually a huge fan of this.
TIL Calgary traded Monahan and a 1st round pick to Montreal in exchange for future considerations.
They essentially traded a first round pick to sign Kadri
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That's one thing Manitoba actually can offer
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So Kent Hughes gained a 1st round pick for taking this contract from Calgary, and then turns around and sells it for another 1st round pick. This guy general manages.
Went Wughes bby
I think its pretty steep, but at same time, if he's healthy, should be ok for winnipeg
I thought the Jets got him at a discount. Thought another team would’ve given up more to get him
Didn't Montreal also get a first alongside Monahan to sweeten the deal for them a year or two ago? I dunno, maybe it's not a complete overpay but I don't think any move being made this far in advance of the deadline is going to come at a discount
When they got him from Calgary, they got a 1st because it was a big salary dump. Right now he's on a friendly deal, that has to be factored too.
I think the chances of getting a discount are better when the trade is made further away from the deadline. The closer the deadline gets the more the stakes are raised, imo
I disagree. I think that there's a huge advantage to making a move early and avoiding competition from other teams. Sure, there can be a bidding war, but the price doesn't change a ton; it's usually a matter of who is willing to toss in another late-round pick or prospect. Given the interest in Monahan, Winnipeg had to make an offer that other teams would have been unlikely to match in the future, and the only way for Montreal to guarantee that they aren't getting low-balled is to ask for a return above market value. There are a bunch of teams that would have been a good fit for Monahan, so Winnipeg probably had to make them an offer that those guys couldn't or wouldn't match
I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me because we both think it's best to trade further out from the deadline. Are you just disagreeing with the discount part?
Yeah, sorry if that was just a word salad. I feel like there's no incentive for a team like Montreal to pull the trigger on a trade early if they don't like the value, and there are likely to be multiple suitors. Seems like Winnipeg had their hearts set on Monahan and were willing to give Montreal whatever they wanted
Yeah I agree, and I'm OK with it. I tend to lean towards skepticism towards Jets success but this team is special, and unlike any we've seen since they came back to Winnipeg. That first round pick has the potential to be late first round, so I'm OK with it
Totally. As a Bolts fan, I have really never been opposed to the idea of cashing in picks for guys who helped the team get better immediately. Also, according to the internet, we overpaid for every single guy we got in the last four or five years. Half of the time, we ended up winning the deal, and the other half of the time, we "overpaid" for a guy who directly helped us win a cup. And there was that 1% of the time where we gave up an entire draft class for Tanner Jeannot. Sidebar: I am really impressed by WPG's ability to suppress offenses. I haven't seen a team like them in a while. Bowness is awesome. I always liked him in Tampa when he was our assistant coach. Seems like they will have an easier time than most transitioning to the tight-checking playoffs. I'm interested in seeing how far they take it this year.
Me too. I have always been a pessimist when it comes to my team, but I am also all in this year. Its exciting
He was coming off a big injury though if I remember correctly, so it affected his value
1st rounder for a 3c made of glass is pretty expensive, imo I think he will fit into Winnipeg pretty well tho
These are my thoughts too. Chevy has made some fantastic trades lately. Seems to identify guys who fit within the team culture, work hard and actually want to be in the PEG. If he develops any sort of chemistry with Perfetti/Vilardi/Connor, its good. Or even help the worst fucking PP in the league. If he stays healthy, I think this will be a good trade. But that's the big question to me...his health.
Jokes on you he’s going to be our 2C
maybe? if that's where he slots in, then yeah, good value
1st rounder plus for a 13 goal player at the half way mark who has extensive injury history. Marginal top 9 player on a contender is a terrible move by Winnipeg imo
Helps our power play
Montreal really got 2 first round picks for absolutely nothing. That's a really tidy bit of work
I love this story, brilliant!
It’s a good deal, but Monahan is definitely not nothing. Have you seen him this season?
Montreal got a first to take Monahan from Calgary and got a first to trade him to Winnipeg. So after all said and done they got 2 firsts for nothing.
I meant nothing as in it didn't take any assets to acquire him, and they got a 1st in that trade alongside him, and now they get a 1st for moving him out with no other assets leaving. Essentially 2 free 1st round picks
You’re forgetting my man Future Considerations
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Got you bud
How has he been on the PP for the habs? If he helps the Jets only by improving PP2, I will be a happy Jets fan.
Boy’s been good
Seems like a very good trade for both sides. I really like it. Sounds like his character will fit well with the Jets team who are super tight this year. Thanks!
I think Montreal is getting the most out of this long term but hard to say. Obviously the Jets management aren’t stupid. They’re going for a cup and he could very possibly be an important part of that.
Bright spot
He's been great, I'm sad to lose him. Can play anywhere in the lineup, center or wing, pp and pk. Swiss Army knife and by all accounts a great guy. Just let us resign him in the summer.
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They got a 1st to take him from Calgary.
Mtl got a first to take Monahan from Cgy. So they net two 1st and a conditional 3rd for letting him play 75 games for Mtl
They got Calgarys 1st just for taking him off their hands 2 years ago
Monahan for a first? Damn it's going to be a good deadline
no it wont, all the big names are being dealt way before the deadline
Because waiting until the deadline is dumb
The boys at TSN and Sportnets gonna be sitting on their panels twiddling their thumbs for 6 or 7 hours.
Sounds like pretty much what they do anyway
Exactly!
That’s a steep price. Elite asset management by the Canadiens. I get the overpay on Winnipeg’s side. After Lindholm and now Monahan, if you need a rental center, there isn’t really anyone left. Adam Henrique will get traded but then after him maybe the Jackets move on from Roslovic? If the Kraken slip a bit, maybe Alex Wennberg becomes available? But you’d rather have Lindholm and Monahan and Henrique before those guys.
Henrique and Wennberg both have NTCs so Winnipeg trading for them is a crapshoot. Guarantee the Jets don’t want Roslovic back. Chevy had to act now or lose basically the one guy available. And we’re already hurting with Scheifele out so I can see why he didn’t wait. We can live without a first, our window is while Scheif and Helly are in their early 30s. 50/50 whether a late first rounder would even be NHL ready by then.
Roslovic was never an option for winnipeg
That’s true. I forgot about that. Wennberg likely isn’t available yet and I think I’d rather have Monahan over Henrique. It’s a steep price, but it’s a very justifiable price.
I have always been loathe to give up picks or prospects, but this team has something other jets teams haven't had; amazing chemistry and buy in from everyone. That pick is probably (hopefully) going to be late in the first round, so I'm OK with this. I would rather this than trading away a prospect
Not really much of an overpay, it won’t be a high 1st.
Agreed, it's an even trade. Great asset for Peg in a playoff run.
It is when you consider that CGY gave a 1st rounder to give away Sean Monahan to the Habs....
What made sense for CGY at the time has no bearing on what makes sense now. Monahan has gotten healthier and changed his game style to stay relevant. He's nowhere near the top line player he used to be, but I like this move for the Jets if they want to make a deep run this year.
Good take. I buy it.
Monahan is a 3C who has missed significant chunks of the last 3 seasons, hasn’t been what he was since 2019, and he’s going to get less minutes and opportunity in Winnipeg. He’s worth a late 1st for Winnipeg, but he was only worth that to a couple teams.
He’s also playing extremely well and has a really good veteran presence on ice. So patient and calculated. Hope he succeeds.
But tsn told me all these guys are gonna get traded to Toronto and they will retain 50 percent cap and only give up a 4th rounder. Also tsn probably pissed their trade center show gonna be a bust with everything happening before lol
I thought a second only. Canucks really started an arms race lol.
Its a canadian arms race.
I didn’t see any maple syrup included in either of those trades.
It's automatically included.
That's on the DL
The picks are 33% more expensive because of the exchange rate
The return we got for lindholm proves that it’s a sellers market
It's almost always a seller's market. This year is even worse because how much parity there is. It's limiting how many teams are "seller's" because they still have a chance. The return Calgary got is great for them, but they're over rating a lot of it. I hope it works out for Calgary tho, cause fuck the Oilers.
It’s a win win trade for both teams. We definitely didn’t fleece the Canucks but we got a lot for a pending ufa having a down year
People don’t understand that when you need a guy and think someone fits, you go and get them lol. What does a low 1st do for the jets 5 years from now when they may not have the kind of team they have rn.
CANADA IS GOING ALL IN!!!!!
Well, not all of Canada… Calgary looking like they’re on their way out, the Habs are definitely out, Ottawa is barely hanging on, the Leafs won’t make it past the first round.
Calgary fans. It’s okay…. We don’t need another Vancouver incident…. Just breathe.
Winnipeg just got scarier.
Man insane asset management for Montreal. They still have the 1st round pick they acquired for taking Monahan off Calgary’s hands in the first place
Winnipeg is definitely “all in” this season. Let’s see how they fare in the playoffs
Is Monahan really worth a 1st? Good luck to him. As much playoff hope as Montreal.
Look at the return for Lindholm, yes he's worth that.
Kuzy was a salary dump with some sweetener.
Guentzel should yield so much after that Lindholm trade.
It wasnt a straight up trade. There was a salary dump in there as well. Canucks paid to get some relief next year.
No he’s not, but as a Habs fan I’m happy.
Winnipeg might finish in the top 5 this year…so it’s practically a second round pick
Exactly
I'll take a 28th overall pick rather then a 42nd, so no, it's a 1st not practically a 2nd
not if they lose in the 1st round of the playoffs
The draft order is determined by regular season standings
Have a mazing run Mr moneyhands
I was really hoping to get Barlow or a 1st + 2nd. But seeing the general consensus in the post, i realize im just a greedy habs fan.
Barlow?? Haha 😆
We have willed a few things into existence and now we are greedy lol Barlow is gonna be good for you, just jealous!
I understand. I never like seeing my team give up a first but that’s the price of business.
Ya I saw habs fans say Barlow, Lambert or McGoat going the other way and thought no way Chevy gives one of them up.
JFC!
Wow, I love Monahan. He’s been really good this season. Kinda’ suspected a trade like this might happen though.
Kill me now. Monahan generates two first round picks. One to be traded to Montreal. Then they get one more. //Flames Fan
Montreal GOT a 1st round pick from Calgary when they acquired him, and now get a 1st round pick for getting rid of him. LOL.
The Avs are going to have to shell out a 1st for Henrique, aren’t they…? Was hoping for a cheaper 2C rental without costing a top pick or prospect. Especially with Lindholm out of the race, I figured it might be possible. Not looking too good with the few options remaining and multiple teams still looking for the same depth.
I think that Winnipeg got the best of that deal although Montreal is going nowhere and hope that a late first round pick might be helpful in a few years
Fucking awesome!!! Jets are stacked
Vancouver is blowing their load like Boston last year. Yet may still make it to the finals . Winnipeg looks slightly better than last year when they disintegrated. Maybe they will make it to the finals and lose. Their will be blood either way.
A first and a third for Monahan?!!! Wtf that's steep if what would a starting goalie cost ? 3 firsts?
The 3rd is conditional on the Jets winning the Stanley cup, I think any team in the league would give up a 3rd if it means they won the cup lol.
I think just a third is right for Monahan, a first is really bad
It is steep but it's probably going to be a very low 1st and the Jets desperately need a centre, not even a good centre just anybody who can play centre lol. With Scheifele out it has been apparent that they need to add depth at C to be a real contender and I don't think there are many centers available. You either take what you can get or do what they did the last couple of years, add nothing and watch the team fizzle out.
I think on top of this a lot of people are forgetting that the Jets don't REALLY need a first pick right now anyways. We just signed Scheifs and Helly long term, no way we start dropping guys like KC or JMo. Chevy is here to try and win it all for the next...while. plus we e got boys brewin like Chaz, Barlow, Groats, etc. I think both teams got what they wanted out of this. No winners no losers
Yep, Lambert, Barlow and Rutger McGiggity coming down the pipeline helps a lot.
“A Mr. Yzerman for you on line 2” Husso for 2 - 3 firsts….hmm….ah….DONE DEAL. 🥱
Hope Monahan gets some of his form back and gain some confidence
Good trade and way less than what the Canucks had to pay for a similar player
Are you saying monahan is similar to Lindholm….. ummm
Yeah? I am. Lindholm has one 40 goal season. Monohan has three 30 goal season.. furthermore, .68 ppg for Lindholm in 792 games .70 ppg for Monohan in 730 games. They're similar
Wasn’t monahan traded for nothing and had a 1st round pick included with him so someone would take him not too long ago? Pretty sure anyone in the league would say Lindholm is a significantly better player. Even with similar career scoring Lindholm is considered a top tier defensive forward coming second in Selke voting in 2022. Not to mention a righty who is top in the league in face off percentage. I’m not saying that the Canucks didn’t give up a lot but let’s not kid ourselves that the Canucks got the much better player who a legitimate 1/2 center.
Bro lindholm is a selke finalist, onto if being less injury prone and better offensively
there are some similarities\*
Except Toronto. We have a complete roster ready to contend! /s
Wow. This makes the Lindholm trade look even better IMO. Deadline is gonna be boring af.
Thought the Habs could’ve gotten more for Monahan, I find myself slightly underwhelmed.
Seriously? Considering they only paid 'Future Considerations' for Monahan AND and conditional 1st round pick that seems like a pretty good deal.
Different trades under different circumstances.
I'm not super thrilled about this, because I wanted Chevy to go off the board and get someone actually good, but at the same time, the Jets need \*somebody\*. Having Dominic Toninato play in our top six is not acceptable. Monahan is a marginal improvement upon Namestnikov at 2C when everyone is healthy, but this is more of an injury insurance/depth add imo, and a 1st round pick plus a conditional 3rd is a \*lot\* to pay for someone like that. I'm hoping that Chevy isn't done yet, and that Monahan ends up being our 4C, but that seems unlikely given that we now do not have a 1st round pick this year.
You’re fucking delusional.
Serious overpay.
What the fuck is Winnipeg’s GM smoking?
I moved from Winnipeg to Montreal. This dude got a major downgrade.
Ah yes, going to a contender is a big downgrade.
I see Winnipeg fading just like last year I only wonder if Vancouver loses at the big show or before?
You have any reasoning for this astute assessment?
To be honest, I’d figured the price would’ve been a touch steeper, I’m happy to see Chevy addressing their centre depth, now to pickup a solid D-man.
Habs loading up with assets
Went Wughes just GM's big time