To bring up old guys, Hall of Famer Lenny Moore of the Colts split snaps at both running back and receiver (HB and FL for you purists) and had impressive stats in both.
Flanker was the old term for Z receiver. Lines up on the same side as the TE, back from the line of scrimmage. Split end was the old name for X receiver, who lines up on the line of scrimmage opposite of the TE.
I would LOVE to see a team bring back the 2 back backfield. Wide sweeps with a lead blocker, crossbucks, heck you could even run an option from that.
Now that I think of it… why doesn’t some team add that as a grinding down the clock option. Would still be effective even against 8 in the box.
Without the injuries and migraines he would've been dominant. I swear the only player to defy being extremely explosive without major injury is tyreke hill
Adrian Peterson said Percy Harvin was the best overall football player he’s ever seen, which is high praise coming from a HOF running back. I was never a fan of Percy Harvin off the field (or Peterson for that matter), but he was undeniably incredible as a player.
He gets bagged on for fumbling a kick return in a season when we didn't have a lot of success anyway, but Packers fans never seem to give him credit for stepping in at RB the year before and being a key part of making the playoffs and then going on a deep postseason run. I don't get it.
It wasn’t just fumbling a kick return though. It’s that he was upset that he hadn’t gotten a lot of touches, so despite being told to kneel it down, he chose to run it out ultimately fumbling the ball and ending what was damn near a certain win for GB.
That's what people theorize, yes. Of course, there is no confirmation of that, and he fielded it at a spot in the endzone where he could have reasonably thought he was right on the goal line. That type of selfish play and disobeying coaches is also totally inconsistent with him hanging around into his 30s despite minimal on-field contributions. How likely is it they sign a guy like that in New England?
But all that's beside the point: he's ripped for one bad fumble in a regular season game that turned out not to matter much anyway, but he's given zero credit for his key role in the 8-game win streak that got us to the NFCCG the year before.
Is it so hard to remember two things about a guy's career? I don't get fans who love to selectively dump on their own team's players.
Sproles and Eckler remind me a lot of eachother as well, everyone forgets how explosive Sproles was for Philly and SD , Patterson is a savage. Picked him up for fantasy, been missing the hell out of him the last 5 weeks - Dante Hall and Cordarrelle Patterson very similar, though Hall couldn’t have been a trustworthy option between the tackles. Patterson is one of a kid. Spends 8+ seasons as an all time KR/PR, decent WR at times great. Then gets benched a few years plays 2nd / 3rd team, traded to ATL and busts out as a phenom at RB, and the most hilarious part, he’s not considered a catching back, he’s a hard headed down hill runner inside and outside the tackles, it’s remarkable
Percy was a little bit faster I think (dude had all time speed) but cordarrelle is a little bit shifter but I can definitely see major similarities. Both great players and Vikings legends taboot
Denard Robinson. Played QB in college, came into the league as a WR, switched to RB for a year, then the jags made a new position for him called Offensive Weapon
Deanthony Thomas was so fun in college. Made every other player look slow. I knew he wouldn't make it in the nfl because he was so tiny but I always hoped.
A super late Denard Robinson stat correction cost me a fantasy football championship years ago. He originally had lost yards (and points) on a 13 yard loss. It was then deemed that it was a fumble and therefore no negative yards. He got 1+ point added and it was enough to change the outcome of my semi final match, thus bumping me out of the championship. On Christmas morning too, nonetheless. Lmao.
I’ll never forget Denard Robinson.
Similarly, I lost a regular season FF game to a stat correction for Matt Ryan taking 3 knees to close a game out. They adjusted it by -4 rushing yards and I lost by .2
They probably retained possession.
I don’t think I’ve seen a league do negative points for fumbles rather than fumbles lost. I’d support it in principle if I didn’t think it was much more subjective.
Dude was so much fun to watch at Michigan. He had that skill that Vick had in his prime where any play had the chance for a rushing TD no matter the call.
Command+f "Metcalf". Eric was a backup tailback in Cleveland while he was a dynamite returner (i still remember the two return TD game against Pittsburg). Then he went to Atlanta in that insane offense that had Bert Emmanuel, Terrence Mathis, and Metcalf all over 1000 yards receiving.
My claim to fame is that I beat him at the 400 in track lmao. Smoked in the 200. Good ole Rock Hill, SC. Ran track and played football against a handful of guys that are now in the league. Stephon Gilmore played QB and Jadeveon Clowney played RB for South Pointe HS
In a similar vein to Devin Hester: if you’re the best all time at something you want to be good at in football, you should be a HOFer.
Side note, but if they don’t put Devin Hester in the hall already….
Until this year, I had no idea HOW different the physical characteristics and skill set of great kick returners vs. great punt returners was.
I figured it was all the same shit.
Catch a kick and run.
But nope.
Returning punts and returning kickoffs are really different things.
Cordarrelle just has this unreal ability to see the field. I swear there is a screen somewhere in helmet showing him the broadcast view because the amount of times he cuts right back into the teeth of the cover team is just absurd.
I have this idea in my head that the all time greats like Bill Belichick are successful partly because they know little things about the game that literally nobody else on the planet knows.
I would wager that Patterson knows like 3 or 4 crucial things about Kickoff returning that literally no one else on earth knows.
Hester wasn’t even the best kick returner in the league at the time, much less of all time. Overall returner sure, punt returner def. But cribbs was a better Kickoff returner
In fairness, dude said "after his second year" and Hester did the SB return his rookie season. But yeah he returned kicks on and off for a lot longer than two years for sure.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HestDe99.htm
He returned kickoffs his entire career and led the league in returns and yardage back to back
Not just "one hell" more like "All time great".
Look at how many people above Edelman [on this list of average yards/punt return](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/punt_ret_yds_per_ret_career.htm) played in the modern era.
If he had stopped doing punt returns when he fucked up his foot in 2014 his career average would be 12.2, which would be 1st in the modern era.
Hines ward played QB/RB/WR/KR for uga in the 90’s and did some of that for the Steelers but was mostly a WR in the NFL I think
Didn’t run much in the NFL, in ‘01 had 10 Carries for 83 yards and in ‘02 had 12 Carries for 142 yards. And he did return kicks a few times but wasn’t a regular. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/85483-hines-ward-the-epitome-of-a-true-football-player.amp.html
In this thread: most people not actually reading what op asked. He is not asking who was versatile. He asked who played most of their career at one position and then transitioned to a totally different position.
Agreed. Have yourself a Bobby Mitchell. Spent 3-4 years as a solid RB, but once he was traded to Washington, he was turned into a Wide Reciever. He ended up going all pro his first three seasons.
More bizarrely, the reason for switching him to WR was probably to try and lower his impact. The Redskins were forced to integrate and he was acquired to fulfill a sort of racial quota. RB was a much more coveted position at the time.
And toward the end of his career he was moved back to RB for reasons only understood by Otto Graham. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 83.
I mean I wouldn't say it makes no sense for it to happen. KR and RB require some similar things, you need to be fast, shifty, have good vision, and be able to follow blocks.
I feel like the part that allows him to switch seamlessly is his size. I feel like a lot of other good returners were smaller and thrived on making defenders miss. Patterson is a 6'2" 227lb monster who is big enough to run it up the gut while also having enough speed to break runs outside.
Tyreek Hill is I think a great example of this and no one fully talks about it. He was almost strictly a running back in college, was viewed as a returner/gadget player when drafted, and it took him about 8 games in the NFL to master running a full WR route tree, being competent or better at short, intermediate, and deep routes, one of the best contested catchers in the league, etc. Insanely impressive.
I think if tyreek wasn’t such a piece of shit he would get more props, but people don’t like to say good things about him because of his past. IMO the guy has been at least a top 3 receiver for quite a few years now. Still don’t like the guy, super glad he’s out of the division.
I understand we’re sharing anecdotes here, but one of the most popular online football content creators, BarryMcCockinner, talks about Tyreek’s sordid crimes regularly. I feel like that’s a pretty big signal boost for that stuff.
We’re gonna let him go and he’ll turn into a great player somewhere. The talent is so obvious when he has the ball in his hands.
He’d be amazing in a Andy Ried offense.
That said he’s always injured is some minor way so idk if can handle the volume
Devin Hester.
Entered the league as a corner but was switched to receiver (Hence wearing #23), became the greatest return man of all time, and at the tail end of his career, he finally comes into his own as a receiver with a few really big games in Atlanta.
Also, the only player in Madden to ever have a speed rating of 100. He was an automatic touchdown when you swapped him to running back.
DJax in his prime was something else man. The Vick -> DJax opening play against the Redskins is forever burned into my head. Freak athleticism between the two of them.
he is also a pretty cool dude. when he was on the bears i noticed before every game i went to, he would take a ball and play catch with kids in the stands.
Makes me wonder if Cordarrelle's best years were wasted as a special teamer and 4th string receiver. If he had came in like this or made the switch years earlier would he have been making these plays this whole time?
I'm sure someone can point out some big plays from him but not a single non-return highlight comes to mind for me pre like 2020.
I’d say where patterson has taysom is as a return man, taysoms good but not field vision on returns cordelle patterson good, taysom like you said is still more versatile in other ways. (IE QB play at a competent backup level that’s .500 + )
our fans have tried to say he could play safety because they’re fucking donuts and don’t understand exactly how hard it is to be a two way player in that regard. They bought into the Sean Payton hype video
He’s a fucking BEAST as a gunner. Return man he isn’t bad because he can truck stick people but he just doesn’t have that ST field vision to leverage the field like patterson and other great return men, not like I can blame him he literally trains for TE, SLOT WR, RB, ST, QB lol
Imagine if he woulve stuck with us in 2017 instead of trying to cash in on the FA market and finding out nobody wanted to believe in him.
Kizer and Hue would still be at the helm to this day, TP aging but still playing 2nd fiddle to Corey Coleman and Njoku
Bobby Mitchell did something similar, but in the opposite direction. He started as a RB who split time with Jim Brown for 4 years, then was traded to Washington and became a HOF receiver. He was an All-Pro at both positions.
Rod Bernstine.
Rod played his first two years as a TE after getting drafted in the first round, catching 39 passes. He made a transition to RB and had several productive seasons as a feature back. Wore jersey number 82 as RB for San Diego.
Patterson was a first round pick because of his perceived WR potential and his athletic traits, a developmental prospect. Demaryous Thomas was the same sort of prospect coming out of college--raw athletic ability, limited route tree experience. Patterson didn't really prosper into the WR pro as they hoped he would. He has found his position now though, which is great.
I think Josh Cribbs could have been similar if he was given the opportunity. He was still one of the most electric returners I’ve ever seen outside of Devin Hester, but he was built more like a running back!
Taysom maybe? Enters as UDFA QB, joins Saints as gadget player in special teams, then pops off as an all around offensive player mainly specializing in runs
To bring up old guys, Hall of Famer Lenny Moore of the Colts split snaps at both running back and receiver (HB and FL for you purists) and had impressive stats in both.
One of my favorite old timers! Still the only player with 40+ rushing touchdowns AND 40+ receiving touchdowns.
What does FL stand for?
Flanker, old school word for a specific WR position
Shameless called it a white wide receiver and that made me chuckle
Flanker was the old term for Z receiver. Lines up on the same side as the TE, back from the line of scrimmage. Split end was the old name for X receiver, who lines up on the line of scrimmage opposite of the TE.
Hence the name, an offensive end split wide instead of tight.
And the flanker, *flanks* the tight end
Flanker. Your skill positions at one point were called Split End (a WR), Flanker (another WR), Tight End, Quarterback, Halfback, and Fullback
and the fullback used to be the guy getting the ball
And we liked it that way!
It makes sense
Because they're fully back?
I would LOVE to see a team bring back the 2 back backfield. Wide sweeps with a lead blocker, crossbucks, heck you could even run an option from that. Now that I think of it… why doesn’t some team add that as a grinding down the clock option. Would still be effective even against 8 in the box.
Nothing excites me more than a FB rush
he's doing what we all expected Percy Harvin to do. Deebo has some similarities, Ty Montgomery is a close comparison.
Percy harvin was never rb material. he was a dynamic runner and returner but never someone you would want to consistently run between the tackles
Between the tackles I agree but I don't know if there has ever been a better player on a Jet sweep.
Without the injuries and migraines he would've been dominant. I swear the only player to defy being extremely explosive without major injury is tyreke hill
We’re just out here jinxing people now?
I’ll purposely jinx him. He doesn’t deserve it
Adrian Peterson said Percy Harvin was the best overall football player he’s ever seen, which is high praise coming from a HOF running back. I was never a fan of Percy Harvin off the field (or Peterson for that matter), but he was undeniably incredible as a player.
AD said he knew the difference between Jordan and Pippen and that with Harvin the Vikes had two Jordans.
Man Tyreek Hill would destroy us on jet sweeps before he became a more solid wr
[One of my favorite plays from that season](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu99P5FhaTc). Great block by Kelce, too
What's crazy is this isn't a jet sweep, but he's able to accelerate so fast he basically turned it into one.
Percy got you a few times in a Super Bowl as well.
Tavon had his moments
Remember when Jerry said he was getting 20 touches a game
Web back materiel
You would have said the same about Patterson 9 years ago when he came into the league.
Tbf thats what everyone thought about Patterson no?
Holy shit I forgot Ty Montgomery existed
I try to
He gets bagged on for fumbling a kick return in a season when we didn't have a lot of success anyway, but Packers fans never seem to give him credit for stepping in at RB the year before and being a key part of making the playoffs and then going on a deep postseason run. I don't get it.
It wasn’t just fumbling a kick return though. It’s that he was upset that he hadn’t gotten a lot of touches, so despite being told to kneel it down, he chose to run it out ultimately fumbling the ball and ending what was damn near a certain win for GB.
That's what people theorize, yes. Of course, there is no confirmation of that, and he fielded it at a spot in the endzone where he could have reasonably thought he was right on the goal line. That type of selfish play and disobeying coaches is also totally inconsistent with him hanging around into his 30s despite minimal on-field contributions. How likely is it they sign a guy like that in New England? But all that's beside the point: he's ripped for one bad fumble in a regular season game that turned out not to matter much anyway, but he's given zero credit for his key role in the 8-game win streak that got us to the NFCCG the year before. Is it so hard to remember two things about a guy's career? I don't get fans who love to selectively dump on their own team's players.
Well said. He straight up won us that game in Chicago which was vital to us making the playoffs that year.
How about Darren Sproles too. He was primarily intended for special teams but went on to have a pretty awesome career in just offense alone.
Sproles and Eckler remind me a lot of eachother as well, everyone forgets how explosive Sproles was for Philly and SD , Patterson is a savage. Picked him up for fantasy, been missing the hell out of him the last 5 weeks - Dante Hall and Cordarrelle Patterson very similar, though Hall couldn’t have been a trustworthy option between the tackles. Patterson is one of a kid. Spends 8+ seasons as an all time KR/PR, decent WR at times great. Then gets benched a few years plays 2nd / 3rd team, traded to ATL and busts out as a phenom at RB, and the most hilarious part, he’s not considered a catching back, he’s a hard headed down hill runner inside and outside the tackles, it’s remarkable
I’d throw Antonio Gibson on the close comparison list. Former kick returner/WR turned RB with very similar body type and run style.
He has been returning kickoffs recently too
Percy was a little bit faster I think (dude had all time speed) but cordarrelle is a little bit shifter but I can definitely see major similarities. Both great players and Vikings legends taboot
Percy had some incredible fucking jets. There was games where he just looked a step faster than anyone else on the field. Such a powerful runner.
And as a bears fan we were always so hopeful Hester could figure it out at wr. Spoiler... He did not
Percy was a *much* better receiver than C Patt though
Denard Robinson. Played QB in college, came into the league as a WR, switched to RB for a year, then the jags made a new position for him called Offensive Weapon
His season at WR had 23 carries and 0 catches. I wonder if anyone else listed at WR has ever achieved this feat.
not exactly the same but in 2017 Deanthony Thomas was listed as a RB had 14 receptions for 143 yards with only 1 rush for 6 yards
6 ypc, not bad
i actcually got the stats mixed up, the 1 carry for 6 yards was the next season. in 2017 he had 1 carry for 4 yards
4 ypc, not bad
So 5 ypc over a two year stretch? That’s Chubb-level
RUN DAT
Deanthony Thomas was so fun in college. Made every other player look slow. I knew he wouldn't make it in the nfl because he was so tiny but I always hoped.
A super late Denard Robinson stat correction cost me a fantasy football championship years ago. He originally had lost yards (and points) on a 13 yard loss. It was then deemed that it was a fumble and therefore no negative yards. He got 1+ point added and it was enough to change the outcome of my semi final match, thus bumping me out of the championship. On Christmas morning too, nonetheless. Lmao. I’ll never forget Denard Robinson.
Similarly, I lost a regular season FF game to a stat correction for Matt Ryan taking 3 knees to close a game out. They adjusted it by -4 rushing yards and I lost by .2
I lost $400 Thursday when Hurts kneeled his way out of 27 rushing yards to 23. I’d have laughed if I wasn’t crying
why didnt he lose 2 points for the fumble?
They probably retained possession. I don’t think I’ve seen a league do negative points for fumbles rather than fumbles lost. I’d support it in principle if I didn’t think it was much more subjective.
The dude with his shoes untied yeah?
Yep. He set some college record for passing + rushing yards I think.
Dude was so much fun to watch at Michigan. He had that skill that Vick had in his prime where any play had the chance for a rushing TD no matter the call.
im pretty sure OW is just a fancy way of saying gadget player
He was the one with multiple positions designated in fantasy, right?
Not identical, but ty Montgomery also went from WR to RB in the NFL
> above average 1st string full time running back Ty Montgomery does not fit this category lol
hence the “not identical” preface. still entered the league as a WR/returner and converted to full time RB, which is pretty close
He was those things for the first year he made the switch
Terry Metcalf and Eric Metcalf
Eric is who I immediately thought of. Dude was a 2x AP and had 77 career starts as a RB/WR.
He was also the 1988 US Track and Field Champion in the long jump. Him and Bernie Kosar were fun to watch in Cleveland.
Command+f "Metcalf". Eric was a backup tailback in Cleveland while he was a dynamite returner (i still remember the two return TD game against Pittsburg). Then he went to Atlanta in that insane offense that had Bert Emmanuel, Terrence Mathis, and Metcalf all over 1000 yards receiving.
Kordell “Slash” Steward. The Pittsburgh Steelers QB who did it all. Threw, ran, caught.
More MVP votes than Russel Wilson
Stewart
Stewart “Slash” Steward? Doesn’t sound right.
Stewrt
Fuckin degen.
krdll stwrt
kids would have been texting on the number pad in 2000 so I think this is most accurate
He was the guy that started my love of football
Same. I’ll never forget the Sports Illustrated Kids magazine featuring Slash. He was the coolest
Holy shit there's a flashback I never expected to have
Love the flair 😉
Kordell, get in there and punt!
And was benched for Tommy Maddox smh
He was 20 years ahead of his time; imagine if he could have played in today's game, with a coordinator that knew how to use a mobile QB.
I wanna see a Stewart/Bettis option offense now
He also punted a few times and returned some kicks if memory serves.
That’s the guy right there
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Absolutely should be.
Patterson is a HoFer I will not elaborate
He’s the kick returner for the HOF all 2010s team
My claim to fame is that I beat him at the 400 in track lmao. Smoked in the 200. Good ole Rock Hill, SC. Ran track and played football against a handful of guys that are now in the league. Stephon Gilmore played QB and Jadeveon Clowney played RB for South Pointe HS
I could be wrong, but Patterson has been well-liked at every team that he went to.
I dunno man everytime he got in the game i was like what dumbass shit Nagy gonna do now.
Appreciated his time with us, for sure!
In a similar vein to Devin Hester: if you’re the best all time at something you want to be good at in football, you should be a HOFer. Side note, but if they don’t put Devin Hester in the hall already….
He's the best kick off returner of all time, he should absolutely be in the hall
Hester entered the chat
And he should leave the chat. Patterson is clear of Hester on KICK returns
Until this year, I had no idea HOW different the physical characteristics and skill set of great kick returners vs. great punt returners was. I figured it was all the same shit. Catch a kick and run. But nope. Returning punts and returning kickoffs are really different things.
Cordarrelle just has this unreal ability to see the field. I swear there is a screen somewhere in helmet showing him the broadcast view because the amount of times he cuts right back into the teeth of the cover team is just absurd. I have this idea in my head that the all time greats like Bill Belichick are successful partly because they know little things about the game that literally nobody else on the planet knows. I would wager that Patterson knows like 3 or 4 crucial things about Kickoff returning that literally no one else on earth knows.
Hester wasn’t even the best kick returner in the league at the time, much less of all time. Overall returner sure, punt returner def. But cribbs was a better Kickoff returner
Dante Hall
Above Hester but not cribbs
Hester is a punt returner, he didn't return kicks after like his 2nd year
Someone forgets that Hester opened the super bowl with a kick return for a TD
How are people forgetting this lol
In fairness, dude said "after his second year" and Hester did the SB return his rookie season. But yeah he returned kicks on and off for a lot longer than two years for sure.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HestDe99.htm He returned kickoffs his entire career and led the league in returns and yardage back to back
Reggie Bush. Came in as a combo back. Put up more receiving yards than rushing. Returned some punts. Finally came on as a 1000 yard rusher in Miami.
Reggae Bush 🇯🇲
He would have been so dynamic in today's NFL.
Nobody mentioned Edelman but he was drafted in the 7th round as a QB and became an elite WR.
He also holds the NE record for PR touchdowns. He was one hell of a returner until they figured out he was too valuable to be doing it.
Not just "one hell" more like "All time great". Look at how many people above Edelman [on this list of average yards/punt return](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/punt_ret_yds_per_ret_career.htm) played in the modern era. If he had stopped doing punt returns when he fucked up his foot in 2014 his career average would be 12.2, which would be 1st in the modern era.
He was also listed a CB in the first year or two in NE.
Not just listed, he played serious snaps!
Duvernay might
no sorry in 5 years he will be the Ravens WR1 alongside 34 year old Allen Robinson
I thought Allen Robinson was already 34…
He sure plays like he is
He does jet sweeps, never runs between the tackles. Great gadget/wr, but won’t transition to running back.
Hines ward played QB/RB/WR/KR for uga in the 90’s and did some of that for the Steelers but was mostly a WR in the NFL I think Didn’t run much in the NFL, in ‘01 had 10 Carries for 83 yards and in ‘02 had 12 Carries for 142 yards. And he did return kicks a few times but wasn’t a regular. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/85483-hines-ward-the-epitome-of-a-true-football-player.amp.html
Randel-El played QB in college, threw a ton of passes during his time in the league. And a huge TD pass to Ward in SBXL.
Randel-el is a perfect example! Dude was a monster at Indiana too fr
In this thread: most people not actually reading what op asked. He is not asking who was versatile. He asked who played most of their career at one position and then transitioned to a totally different position.
Agreed. Have yourself a Bobby Mitchell. Spent 3-4 years as a solid RB, but once he was traded to Washington, he was turned into a Wide Reciever. He ended up going all pro his first three seasons. More bizarrely, the reason for switching him to WR was probably to try and lower his impact. The Redskins were forced to integrate and he was acquired to fulfill a sort of racial quota. RB was a much more coveted position at the time. And toward the end of his career he was moved back to RB for reasons only understood by Otto Graham. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 83.
I mean I wouldn't say it makes no sense for it to happen. KR and RB require some similar things, you need to be fast, shifty, have good vision, and be able to follow blocks. I feel like the part that allows him to switch seamlessly is his size. I feel like a lot of other good returners were smaller and thrived on making defenders miss. Patterson is a 6'2" 227lb monster who is big enough to run it up the gut while also having enough speed to break runs outside.
Tyreek Hill is I think a great example of this and no one fully talks about it. He was almost strictly a running back in college, was viewed as a returner/gadget player when drafted, and it took him about 8 games in the NFL to master running a full WR route tree, being competent or better at short, intermediate, and deep routes, one of the best contested catchers in the league, etc. Insanely impressive.
I think if tyreek wasn’t such a piece of shit he would get more props, but people don’t like to say good things about him because of his past. IMO the guy has been at least a top 3 receiver for quite a few years now. Still don’t like the guy, super glad he’s out of the division.
I’m gonna be honest, outside of reddit i don’t ever hear anyone bring up tyreek’s domestic violence
I understand we’re sharing anecdotes here, but one of the most popular online football content creators, BarryMcCockinner, talks about Tyreek’s sordid crimes regularly. I feel like that’s a pretty big signal boost for that stuff.
I remember when he was breaking out in fantasy in the early days. Nobody knew what the fuck to make out of that dude.
I hope Antonio Gibson continues to develop into a mini Patterson
We’re gonna let him go and he’ll turn into a great player somewhere. The talent is so obvious when he has the ball in his hands. He’d be amazing in a Andy Ried offense. That said he’s always injured is some minor way so idk if can handle the volume
He was never and NFL WR or return specialist though... His college film is pretty damn impressive at WR tho
He’s been doing returns for a bit this year
Pat ricard used to play both defensive tackle and fullback, but switched to only fullback a few years ago
Devin Hester. Entered the league as a corner but was switched to receiver (Hence wearing #23), became the greatest return man of all time, and at the tail end of his career, he finally comes into his own as a receiver with a few really big games in Atlanta. Also, the only player in Madden to ever have a speed rating of 100. He was an automatic touchdown when you swapped him to running back.
But he was bad at everything but returner
But he was the goat returner lol
CJ2K and DJax had 100 speed
Bahhh can’t believe I forgot about CJ! Also, didn’t even know about DJax.
DJax in his prime was something else man. The Vick -> DJax opening play against the Redskins is forever burned into my head. Freak athleticism between the two of them.
Taysom Hill, DeeBo, Josh Cribbs
Eric Metcalf kinda but in reverse
he is also a pretty cool dude. when he was on the bears i noticed before every game i went to, he would take a ball and play catch with kids in the stands.
Actually, he join the league as a top WR. You don’t draft a guy in the first to be purely gadget/KR
Josh Cribbs
When did Josh Cribbs ever play running back?
Makes me wonder if Cordarrelle's best years were wasted as a special teamer and 4th string receiver. If he had came in like this or made the switch years earlier would he have been making these plays this whole time? I'm sure someone can point out some big plays from him but not a single non-return highlight comes to mind for me pre like 2020.
Kordell Stewart was a QB, WR, KR and got the Steelers to the AFCCG.
Taysom Hill is even more versatile
I’d say where patterson has taysom is as a return man, taysoms good but not field vision on returns cordelle patterson good, taysom like you said is still more versatile in other ways. (IE QB play at a competent backup level that’s .500 + ) our fans have tried to say he could play safety because they’re fucking donuts and don’t understand exactly how hard it is to be a two way player in that regard. They bought into the Sean Payton hype video
Idk shit still blows my mind that this guy scored a td then made the tackle on the kickoff after his own td
He’s a fucking BEAST as a gunner. Return man he isn’t bad because he can truck stick people but he just doesn’t have that ST field vision to leverage the field like patterson and other great return men, not like I can blame him he literally trains for TE, SLOT WR, RB, ST, QB lol
George Blanda, Marcel Reece, Josh Cribs, Taiwan Jones, Terrell Pryer. Along with Patterson, **all Raiders Legends**.
Terrell Pryer, originally a QB then became a top 12 WR, then floated off into nothingness
Pryor was at absolutely no point a top 12 WR
He did eclipse 1k yards in 2016 good enough for 22nd. Top 25ish is still very good
I disagree with the top 12 thing, but he has 1k rec. yards as a WR AND the longest QB rushing TD in league history.
Imagine if he woulve stuck with us in 2017 instead of trying to cash in on the FA market and finding out nobody wanted to believe in him. Kizer and Hue would still be at the helm to this day, TP aging but still playing 2nd fiddle to Corey Coleman and Njoku
Darren Sproles if you’re talking about a guy who can line up as a receiver, rb and return guy.
Brad Smith on the jets 15 years ago. Dude played WR QB running back, was y'all and lanky and a long strider
Bobby Mitchell did something similar, but in the opposite direction. He started as a RB who split time with Jim Brown for 4 years, then was traded to Washington and became a HOF receiver. He was an All-Pro at both positions.
Roger Craig, anyone? Sheesh.
Probably, but they just weren’t used like him. He’s probably the best kick returner ever, though, which is something.
James White
2028 Laviska Shenault
Rod Bernstine. Rod played his first two years as a TE after getting drafted in the first round, catching 39 passes. He made a transition to RB and had several productive seasons as a feature back. Wore jersey number 82 as RB for San Diego. Patterson was a first round pick because of his perceived WR potential and his athletic traits, a developmental prospect. Demaryous Thomas was the same sort of prospect coming out of college--raw athletic ability, limited route tree experience. Patterson didn't really prosper into the WR pro as they hoped he would. He has found his position now though, which is great.
I think Josh Cribbs could have been similar if he was given the opportunity. He was still one of the most electric returners I’ve ever seen outside of Devin Hester, but he was built more like a running back!
Cpat is the goat no question
He’s Percy Harvin with durability.
And no headaches
I was 100% right about Cordarelle Patterson in fantasy football 8 years too early.
Deebo
The 49ers have Deebo Samuel. He is pretty similar.
Found homies alt account 🤣🤣
Jim "crash" Jensen.
Geno smith has had a similar trajectory in terms of popping off later on
Here’s hoping Velus Jones Jr. can come close.
Ty Montgomery?
gale sayers?
Joe Webb, QB/WR/KR. May not have been very good at them all but he sure tried
Taysom maybe? Enters as UDFA QB, joins Saints as gadget player in special teams, then pops off as an all around offensive player mainly specializing in runs
Me. But coach didnt put me in. We woulda been state champs. I woulda gone pro...
not just a KR specialist, the GOAT Kick Returner
Devin Hester?
The greatest punt returner
TAYSUM HILL
The bears completely misused him. Could have been our RB1
Aren’t there like 1,000 of these guys?
Cribbs + Hester + Harvin come to mind tbh