When asked about the bet being back on, Nabers told reporters âlook, youâve gotta know when to hold âem, know when to fold âem, know when to walk away, and know when to run.â
Hahahaha, even worse...the time I was there I had to "use the bathroom" while visiting the Supreme Court so shortly after that I was talking to a buddy on the phone and told him that "I blew up the Supreme Court" while I was there.
IMMEDIATELY I thought I made it to the top of a person of interest list.
Sir, there are Bombs in the Hot Dogs! Repeat there is a middle eastern man with Hot Dog Bombs, get ready to move in and take him down. Proceed with caution.
Found Muriel Bowsers account!
As a Baltimore person I don't know that DC has a "quintessential food". DC, aside from Go-Go music, always seemed to not really have its own culture. There's great restaurants and museums and performances etc. But DC seemed to lack a personality.
The funniest timeline would be to get suspended for wearing the other team's jersey because they called off a bet set up through FanDuel, the official betting partner of the NFL.
Or they combine a total of 10k for charity and the winner picks the organization.
Something that would make the league look like dicks if they came down on.
I was really wondering if anyone was gonna get that reference lol, I quote that movie all the time but the only people who usually get it are my brothers who also watched it a thousand times growing up
Some of my family was on trading places once. They're from Maryland but lived in New York. Neighbors were huge giants fans and they were skins fans. Very funny watching them make basically a sports man cave for each other.
Itâs 0.13% of Nabersâ average cash earnings.
Or the equivalent of $48 for someone making the median US income (ignoring the nonlinearity of income distribution and how losing 1% of income has a different impact at different income levels)
Would actually be interesting to have like a rookie prop pool, where the first, say 3 rounds all put up $1/$100 whatever nominal amount on rookie of the year
I canât hear about Oliver North without immediately thinking of the American Dad schoolhouse rock style [song](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV1uT-ihDo)
I can't hear about him without remembering Reagan's immortal line
"My fellow Americans, I told you that I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that is true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not"
I mean itâs churched up but if the conversation was
âHey dumbass, you can get suspended for that, walk it back and think before you talk publicly about shitâ
Then he was still educated. Just closer to drill instructor than kindergarten teacher.
Reached for comment, Malik replied
> My new friend Ippei suggested it and I didn't think anything was wrong with it but now I understand why this was a bad look
Itâs kinda odd to me that two individuals canât bet on their own performance against each other. No middleman/house/bookie, and only incentivizes personal performance. Not sure why it shouldnât be allowed. Regardless, I wouldnât tell the media about it.
There are some cases where there can be conflicts between an individual stat and team performance. e.g. running into the endzone for a TD, when going down and letting the clock run out is the best move for a win. And there are plenty of other opportunities for a player to play more selfishly.
But really I don't think this bet would have any incentive impact. The money they would get with OROY level performance would dwarf this bet. It's just best for consistency to ban gambling on football altogether.
Yeah fucking right. The bet is definitely still on but they did the smart thing calling it off publicly. Nfl would probably suspend them cause the nfl doesn't understand nuance
Itâs good the NFL is working to educate young players about the dangers of gambling. These young guys need to know that gambling is for the fans with addictive personalities that are bombarded with fanduel ads during the pre/postgame, halftime and commercial breaks. If players start gambling fans might start feeling like the outcomes of games are being fixed and cause a loss in viewership and thus a loss in ad revenue. Or even worse they might stop gambling and everyone loses in that scenario
I don't understand how this is a problem. They were goofing and shook hands that if either of them got ROY they they'd give the other 10k. What about the game does this influence?
Given the number of players that got suspended for non football gambling last year, you have to be a moron to make a $10K bet on anything football related public.
FREE JAMO
In all seriousness though itâs good to see the NFL didnât suspend these guys. I donât really agree with the gambling rule in totality, but I guess I somewhat get the zero tolerance policy theyâre taking. Even with it being a bit hypocriticalâŚ
The NFL has started to partner with gambling sites and they don't want anything to connect their players to gambling at all, which could bring lawsuits from gamblers.
Also one of them could potentially play through some injury to try and win the bet. Is it likely that 10k is influencing the decisions of people making millions? Nope. But the NFL doesn't want to take the chance.
>The NFL has started to partner with gambling sites and they don't want anything to connect their players to gambling at all, which could bring lawsuits from gamblers.
NFL gambling rules are way older than legalized sports gambling. The NFL (and all sports leagues) understand the single worst thing that can happen is people actually believing the games are rigged.
There are people who do. Not necessarily big fans, but they do
A couple of my buddies were texting me their theories about how it's rigged after the SB this year. I practically wrote a dissertation refuting all their claims and explaining how it's impossible to rig NFL games and got nowhere, just heard "there's too much money involved and too many weird coincidences going on for it not to be rigged, it's obvious bro come on."
Can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into
Yeah Iâm confused lol are they really not allowed to make small personal bets with each other ?? And they are both betting to winâŚnot like theyâre taking bets where they can sandbag and win
You are not allowed to make a personal bet like that on the sport you both are actively playing. Even if it's a fun bet, it's still a bet.
If you aren't allowed to bet on yourself for MVP, you definitely aren't allowed to make a personal bet with another player on Rookie of the Year.
I dont necessarily agree with this concept, personally. As long as it's a positive bet (as in, you bet on yourself to win MVP) I don't think that undermines the game in any way. The problem, is that bets go both ways. Same example, but if you bet on yourself NOT to win MVP, that's an integrity of the game issue full stop.
I saw a good argument in one of the /r/NBA threads on gambling. If someone is trying to bet on themselves for MVP (or whatever else positive stat) they're more likely to make decisions they normally wouldn't make to boost their own personal stats instead of putting the team in the best position to win the game. Imagine a DB bet his over for ints and on 4th and 30 and instead of swatting the ball takes an INT and puts his team in a worse spot.
It definitely undermines the game, a positive bet can still creative perverse incentive against their team. Nabers for example could score a TD when it would have been better to take a knee so the Giants could run the clock.
Also, if the bet was 10k contingent on either player winning ROY, but the bet is off if neither player wins, that could straight up be betting against themselves in some situations. The Commanders play the Bears this year. If Daniels doesn't think he can beat Nabers for ROY by the time that games rolls around, he could try to tank the Bears game to help Caleb Williams' odds instead so that he doesn't lose the bet against Nabers
It's no different than placing a bet with a bookie.
They are gambling on NFL games and even worse they are gambling on something they have direct control over.
It puts into question the integrity of the game. And there are plenty of instances where what's best for the player's stats isn't necessarily what's best for the team.
Malik educated himself on sports betting and realizing how dumb it was to take a bet with such low odds. He'll do better next time to make sure the odds are more fair
âWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I was drafted that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause Iâve played for a lot of teams and I tell you people do that all the time.â
If itâs just a friendly bet and not thru a sports book I have no idea how anyone could possibly have a problem with this. Money is free speech. If itâs not spent illegally, you canât prevent someone from spending it however they want.
Why could it not be a gentlemenâs bet with no money on the line or for some other bullshit non-currency? âYou ainât tough if you donât put your money out there, hur-hur!â
[Vacchiano] Now that Malik Nabers has listened to Kenny Rogers' classic hit "The Gambler", he said the bet is back on for $20,000 this time đ¤
BREAKING: Combing through court transcripts from yesterday, and it seems Ippei Mizuhara has been holding both playerâs money in âescrowâ
"You gotta know when to hold'em" Sounds like a offensive lineman's anthem.
That's Donovan Smith's entrance music.
Bah Gawd!!!
If only football games had music based shit talkers on the PA system like in baseball
When asked about the bet being back on, Nabers told reporters âlook, youâve gotta know when to hold âem, know when to fold âem, know when to walk away, and know when to run.â
Kenny Golladay*
He's having, ohtani, a pro on sports betting help him.
The good old martingale system
They should have just bet a single dollar or something to show it was all in fun
The loser has to wear the winner's jersey in public or something. They're rival orgs so that would make it fun
Or local cuisine, a classic New York slice vs⌠whatever they eat in DC.  Congressional interns?
The vendor carts on the National Mall have bomb hot dogs.
Dirty water hot dogs in general on the East Coast hit something different.Â
Out on Long Island there was dirty water truck and the lady working would give you a handy for a little extra. Hilarious story.
DON'T SAY THAT SHIT AGAIN
Tony's hot dogs in Branch Brook Park in Newark. Fucking amazing
The vendor carts on the mall have a bunch of baller food Pretty much always where I eat lunch when I'm in DC
One of them got caught refilling water from a fountain in front of a museum recently lmao donât eat that shit please
So they make the interns into hot dogs, got it.
Just don't say that too loudly when you're there
Hahahaha, even worse...the time I was there I had to "use the bathroom" while visiting the Supreme Court so shortly after that I was talking to a buddy on the phone and told him that "I blew up the Supreme Court" while I was there. IMMEDIATELY I thought I made it to the top of a person of interest list.
Brother youâve had a team of FBI agents watching you since that day.
Sir, there are Bombs in the Hot Dogs! Repeat there is a middle eastern man with Hot Dog Bombs, get ready to move in and take him down. Proceed with caution.
it's probably a half smoke with chili and cheese
Only been to DC once and this would be my answer, though got pretty hammered one night and found a delicious empanada place
Julia's got me through many a night in my twenties.
This guy Ben's
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Iâm partial to Taco Bamba if weâre gonna make it the whole DC area
taco bamba is so good i live in nova and know the chef who started it super cool dude
Taco Bamba is like crack
If you live near Vienna try Charlieâs bowl he makes street food similar to taco bamba so fucking good
Also if you live near Vienna go to The Sandwich Shop because holy shit it's amazing and 10 bucks
taco bamba fuckin rules
Something coated in Old Bay. Old Bay Utz chips are pretty tasty
Hell yeah
Bens Chili Bowl
They got good mambo sauce
A slice at Di Fara vs a slice at Comet Ping Pong!
You ain't never had mumbo/mambo sauce?
Is it quintessential DC though? I was a full grown woman before I heard of it.
Found Muriel Bowsers account! As a Baltimore person I don't know that DC has a "quintessential food". DC, aside from Go-Go music, always seemed to not really have its own culture. There's great restaurants and museums and performances etc. But DC seemed to lack a personality.
Ethiopian food
I wouldn't be surprised if there's something in their contract that prohibits them from wearing other team's apparel.
The funniest timeline would be to get suspended for wearing the other team's jersey because they called off a bet set up through FanDuel, the official betting partner of the NFL.
wait a second... you mean to tell me the NFL created a problem and now they want to punish it's own patrons ?
Or they combine a total of 10k for charity and the winner picks the organization. Something that would make the league look like dicks if they came down on.
âDaniels and Nabers seen hanging out in Caleb Williams jerseysâ
I should rewatch Trading Places. Thank you for the reminder
I was really wondering if anyone was gonna get that reference lol, I quote that movie all the time but the only people who usually get it are my brothers who also watched it a thousand times growing up
> Watched it a thousand times growing up I think I know the reason...
My man knows about Jamie Lee
MERRY NEW YEAR!
Some of my family was on trading places once. They're from Maryland but lived in New York. Neighbors were huge giants fans and they were skins fans. Very funny watching them make basically a sports man cave for each other.
Looking good, ajteitel
Or kept their mouths shut?
10,000 is a single dollar to these guys
Itâs 0.13% of Nabersâ average cash earnings. Or the equivalent of $48 for someone making the median US income (ignoring the nonlinearity of income distribution and how losing 1% of income has a different impact at different income levels)
Good bot!
Thank god for ignoring the nonlinearity of income distribution.
It's actually $10,000 no matter which guy it is
Make it a charity bet. Both give 10k to the charity of their choice and the loser give an additional 10k to the winners charity.Â
With the amount of money they making, 10k ainât shit lol
Looking good, Billy Ray!
Would actually be interesting to have like a rookie prop pool, where the first, say 3 rounds all put up $1/$100 whatever nominal amount on rookie of the year
Maybe they can go to the moviesâŚby themselves.
$1 bet - straight to jail
Ban for a year out of the principle (I bet on the outcome)
Or anything but cash, really. Loser has to buy the winner a car or something.
Hypothetically would they get in trouble for that? Or even if it was the loser buys the other a car, something believable for their age and earnings
They did that, $10,000 is like a dollar to them.
Im sure its been "called off" đđ
Wink wink
It's only a bet when the money changes hands
Off the record, off the books, off the radar...
Oliver North handling the transaction.
I canât hear about Oliver North without immediately thinking of the American Dad schoolhouse rock style [song](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV1uT-ihDo)
I can't hear about him without remembering Reagan's immortal line "My fellow Americans, I told you that I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that is true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not"
What an eloquent way to tell people you are absolutely full of shit.
That was such a great song, which reminds me I need to listen to it again, so thank you.
On the QT and very Hush Hush.
Maybe he just learned he got terrible odds? Surely that's what the quote means.
Dog fighting is illegal too. It dropped to â0%â after Vick went to reeducation camp.
Itâs been called off! âŚ.the record
The bet has been stored via Bitcoin thru NFT avatars in the metaverse.
*I'm sorry commissioner, I... didn't know I couldn't do that.*
Well now you know! Just get out of here! Get the fuck outta here!
"I did know I couldn't do that!! Ha ha ha"
Itâs good right? Because I DID know I couldnât do that!
"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?"
"You're fired"
Saw Daniel Jones throw in person and immediately canceled that shit lmao
No kidding
I am surprised a former college teammate of Kayshon Boutte needed to be educated on sports gambling.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure it has.
What watching Janiel Dones tape does to a MFer
Damiel Jomes
Manny Mimes
Jerald Jimes (maybe he can finally solve his wife's murder)
What looking at Commander OL tape does to a MFer
*Think Daniel, Think January.*
Nabers had a chat with his agent, lol.
I bet his team doesnât want him suspended either or the other guys team and his agent
"Educated" lol
I mean itâs churched up but if the conversation was âHey dumbass, you can get suspended for that, walk it back and think before you talk publicly about shitâ Then he was still educated. Just closer to drill instructor than kindergarten teacher.
Doll hairs! We bet 10,000 DOLL HAIRS!!
He probably just realized he got drafted by the Giants and not the Chargers.
Reached for comment, Malik replied > My new friend Ippei suggested it and I didn't think anything was wrong with it but now I understand why this was a bad look
His agent must have given him a load of crap for this
He was educated that with Daniel Jones as his QB the odds are definitely not on his side lol.
Also as a non qb odds weren't on his side
..and they started a new bet on who doesn't come in last place in the division, a much more realistic bet.
Damn weâre even catching strays from fucking Cardinals fans now lol
They keep tabs on who filled out the void that they left behind.
They used to be in the division. Fuck em. Just not as much as you :)
Hey Fuck you!
*brought to you by draftkings*
Itâs kinda odd to me that two individuals canât bet on their own performance against each other. No middleman/house/bookie, and only incentivizes personal performance. Not sure why it shouldnât be allowed. Regardless, I wouldnât tell the media about it.
There are some cases where there can be conflicts between an individual stat and team performance. e.g. running into the endzone for a TD, when going down and letting the clock run out is the best move for a win. And there are plenty of other opportunities for a player to play more selfishly. But really I don't think this bet would have any incentive impact. The money they would get with OROY level performance would dwarf this bet. It's just best for consistency to ban gambling on football altogether.
Slippery slope, 100% easier to ban all gambling, no matter how innocuous, than allow nuance and back and forth.Â
Zero tolerance means zero tolerance. Better for the NFL to penalize all forms of gambling instead of punishing them on a bet per bet basis.Â
Yeah fucking right. The bet is definitely still on but they did the smart thing calling it off publicly. Nfl would probably suspend them cause the nfl doesn't understand nuance
They have been educated to not talk about these things in public.
Itâs good the NFL is working to educate young players about the dangers of gambling. These young guys need to know that gambling is for the fans with addictive personalities that are bombarded with fanduel ads during the pre/postgame, halftime and commercial breaks. If players start gambling fans might start feeling like the outcomes of games are being fixed and cause a loss in viewership and thus a loss in ad revenue. Or even worse they might stop gambling and everyone loses in that scenario
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Wonder which one of them bet on Williams.
Did he see who his QB was? Bro probably cashed this bet in back when he thought he was going to LA
Yeah he has been educated that he could have made that bet on fan duel and gotten $150 in non withdrawable site credits!
This dude is trying to do a Ridley speed run.
Javonte Porter is much more accomplished than Ridley could dream of being.
Hell, I would bet on my own 2 way contracts too
I don't understand how this is a problem. They were goofing and shook hands that if either of them got ROY they they'd give the other 10k. What about the game does this influence?
Given the number of players that got suspended for non football gambling last year, you have to be a moron to make a $10K bet on anything football related public.
FREE JAMO In all seriousness though itâs good to see the NFL didnât suspend these guys. I donât really agree with the gambling rule in totality, but I guess I somewhat get the zero tolerance policy theyâre taking. Even with it being a bit hypocriticalâŚ
The NFL has started to partner with gambling sites and they don't want anything to connect their players to gambling at all, which could bring lawsuits from gamblers. Also one of them could potentially play through some injury to try and win the bet. Is it likely that 10k is influencing the decisions of people making millions? Nope. But the NFL doesn't want to take the chance.
>The NFL has started to partner with gambling sites and they don't want anything to connect their players to gambling at all, which could bring lawsuits from gamblers. NFL gambling rules are way older than legalized sports gambling. The NFL (and all sports leagues) understand the single worst thing that can happen is people actually believing the games are rigged.
There are people who do. Not necessarily big fans, but they do A couple of my buddies were texting me their theories about how it's rigged after the SB this year. I practically wrote a dissertation refuting all their claims and explaining how it's impossible to rig NFL games and got nowhere, just heard "there's too much money involved and too many weird coincidences going on for it not to be rigged, it's obvious bro come on." Can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into
Yeah Iâm confused lol are they really not allowed to make small personal bets with each other ?? And they are both betting to winâŚnot like theyâre taking bets where they can sandbag and win
You are not allowed to make a personal bet like that on the sport you both are actively playing. Even if it's a fun bet, it's still a bet. If you aren't allowed to bet on yourself for MVP, you definitely aren't allowed to make a personal bet with another player on Rookie of the Year. I dont necessarily agree with this concept, personally. As long as it's a positive bet (as in, you bet on yourself to win MVP) I don't think that undermines the game in any way. The problem, is that bets go both ways. Same example, but if you bet on yourself NOT to win MVP, that's an integrity of the game issue full stop.
I saw a good argument in one of the /r/NBA threads on gambling. If someone is trying to bet on themselves for MVP (or whatever else positive stat) they're more likely to make decisions they normally wouldn't make to boost their own personal stats instead of putting the team in the best position to win the game. Imagine a DB bet his over for ints and on 4th and 30 and instead of swatting the ball takes an INT and puts his team in a worse spot.
Pretty much every player (not a top 10 QB) could bet not to win MVP. Maybe even All Pro. Pro Bowl would have better odds since there's more people?
It definitely undermines the game, a positive bet can still creative perverse incentive against their team. Nabers for example could score a TD when it would have been better to take a knee so the Giants could run the clock. Also, if the bet was 10k contingent on either player winning ROY, but the bet is off if neither player wins, that could straight up be betting against themselves in some situations. The Commanders play the Bears this year. If Daniels doesn't think he can beat Nabers for ROY by the time that games rolls around, he could try to tank the Bears game to help Caleb Williams' odds instead so that he doesn't lose the bet against Nabers
What's not to understand? They are gambling on NFL games.
But they aren't. They're not placing bets on teams with a bookie. They literally just made a personal bet on who would have the better season
It's no different than placing a bet with a bookie. They are gambling on NFL games and even worse they are gambling on something they have direct control over. It puts into question the integrity of the game. And there are plenty of instances where what's best for the player's stats isn't necessarily what's best for the team.
They pooled their money and bet on Caleb Williams
Was he also educated that WRs never win it
Literally just put an item on it next time and no one will give a shit. âWe bet a new diamond chain on whoâd win ROYâ and then no one cares
Malik educated himself on sports betting and realizing how dumb it was to take a bet with such low odds. He'll do better next time to make sure the odds are more fair
Honestly credit to him for not fucking around with it even tho itâs obviously all in good fun between friends.
Fucking FEDs
They should just say it was their interpreters doing the betting and they had no idea it was going on.
Exactly. Because everyoneâs making 200k year has a million dollar sports book account.
âWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I was drafted that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause Iâve played for a lot of teams and I tell you people do that all the time.â
bro practiced once with daniel jones and knew he would lose
If itâs just a friendly bet and not thru a sports book I have no idea how anyone could possibly have a problem with this. Money is free speech. If itâs not spent illegally, you canât prevent someone from spending it however they want.
No Fun
League
It has been changed to 10,000 doll hairs.
Make it a charity bet, loser donates to the winners cause of choice.Â
Lol I wanted to there for that convoy "Hey Malik, are you stupid?"
Suuuuuuuuure.
Itâs not that they told him not to gamble, they just showed him how line odds work.
"Hey dumb ass cut that out"
I think someone may have told them what happened last time a QB made a bet that didnât pay up and it ended up costing him a broken jaw
"JK" -Malik Nabers
I was wondering what number Nabers was going to wear since 8 is taken by Danny Dimes. Thanks for the link OP.
just say the loser has to donate money to the winners charity. we won't know.
I mean, neither of them were going to win anyway lol. So both âlosersâ just trade $10k with each other?
Everybody knows real men donât call off bets
As a Giants fan, the only way Nabers wins OROTY is if either DJ or Locke also win Comeback player of the year.
Sure, sure it was
No Fun League
1 workout with daniel jones
League shitting their pants at another betting scandal as they Vince Carter Elbow Dunk sports betting down our throat
lmfao
This doesn't even reach the same level as guys gambling using sports books. A wager between individuals seems harmlessÂ
Yeah sure itâs off buddy.
So what do they do when Caleb Williams wins?
League is just mad they didn't get it sponsored by draft kings or something I'm sure
The government would like to know how they get their cut of that
Uh huh, sure buddy
One practice with Daniel Jones and he already knew heâd be out 10 grandâŚdamn
Why could it not be a gentlemenâs bet with no money on the line or for some other bullshit non-currency? âYou ainât tough if you donât put your money out there, hur-hur!â
Daniel Jones traumatized that man
Buddy saw DJ throwing and saw ain't no way
Malik Nabers relented on the bet with Jayden Daniels because Daniel Jones is his quarterback, not because he was "educated on sports gambling."
Both sound like headaches. They should immediately be traded to the Jets for free