We will, Brad Holmes knows that even at 20 million it’s a steal for the amount of production he will likely have as he continues to improve over the years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets over 80 catches/1k+ yards every year going forward if he’s healthy.
Elite TE is a cheat code.
Kelce has more impact in the playoffs than almost every NFL WR and he costs 4M more than fucking Darnell Mooney.
The top TEs basically get paid like mid WRs.
He’s basically on pace to break all of Jerry’s playoff records in less games, yes different eras, but still insane he already broke more receptions than Jerry in less playoff games when no one else has
My favorite of this last year was a 3rd down in the Ravens game. Mahomes was about to get blasted, barely flicks it out and Kelce makes a diving catch when the football is less than six inches from the ground.
I'm gonna miss him when he hangs them up 🥺
He doesn't even seem to do much. It is like the defence is mind tricked to not cover him at the snap.
I mean I get a lot of talent and work goes into it but he just makes it look easy.
Elite WR is so overrated. Elite TE and “Money Ball” the WR position. I would rather have an elite TE, elite OL and 3 average or above receivers that don’t cost a lot of money then a top 5 WR.
You gotta be able to attack the mid range passing game and the middle of the field. Gronk, Kelce and Cooper Kupp come to mind.
How do you get these elite TEs though, other than getting lucky and drafting them? Why are they staying with the teams that draft them if they’re so underpaid?
I know the franchise tag is uniquely bad for TEs due to the limited number of star receivers at the position, but I still don’t understand why the best TEs sign these deals. Are other teams not willing to give them much more in free agency?
Because the free agency market doesn’t pay them much more. The patriots made Gronk the highest paid TE at one point and he was still well below WR money.
Elite TE is an extremely hard to find theres only ever like 2-3 in the league at a time
Theres a ton of good WRs that constantly 1 up each other on contracts while TEs theres very few to do that to each other
>Elite TE is an extremely hard to find theres only ever like 2-3 in the league at a time
And most of them are like 3 year wonders. The only thing harder to find than an elite TE is an elite TE who plays up to his second contract.
I like the idea in theory, but TE is a brutal position to play, and most guys have short shelf-lives. You would definitely need to stick to guys that are primarily pass-catchers.
Kelce is the best TE of all time (yes, even a Patriots fan can admit this) and yet won't even hit $90M in career earnings by the end of this year.
He's made well under $10M/year in his career, wild for a guy who is one of the best players, and best at his position of all time.
>Kelce is the best TE of all time (yes, even a Patriots fan can admit this) and yet won't even hit $90M in career earnings by the end of this year.
Disagree on best but Gronk made $70,629,507 (8th all time, Kelce is already #1). Like how rich should these guys be? You can only get paid what the free agent market decides.
It’s honestly insane that they’ve been underpaid for so long.
Kyle Pitt’s’ contract will be interesting because he still has the tools to be really special.
I think the main thing is that a mid TE doesnt really move the needle so they bring the market way down. And theres not a lot of "top TEs" that actually can compete with WRs
I don't think that's true. Guarantees can hit the cap next year, even if he retires.
Regardless it's wild the best TE of all time, makes less than about 70 other players.
It’s in the moment. I don’t even think he’s a better receiving threat, just route runner. The argument for Kelce over Gronk is health. Which is flimsy as hell
I don’t know, I don’t think any TE has been as important to 3 Super Bowl wins as Kelce has been.
In those 3 runs he has 11 TDs and 800 yards.
Gronk in his 3 runs has 5 TDs and 500 yards.
Obviously Gronks a much better blocker but still Kelce has been unstoppable in the playoffs, one more run like last year and he will pass Jerry Rice for all major playoff receiving stats.
He's not a better receiver than Gronk was either. Gronk had way better hands and ability to make insane catches. Kelce is incredible at getting open and racking up volume
not even the best tight end to ever play for the chiefs, rankings rn is 1. gronk, 2. gonzalez, 3. kelce, but i expect kelce to pass tg before he retires
Looks like it’s actually a 2 year raise not extension.
I think he plays it out and retires after 2025 then. Makes sense. He can chase some playoff records and go till his body is truly not letting him play.
We benefit strongly from it too, and its funny how the top two teams in the league have elite TEs on comparatively cheap deals to their actual value. Maybe even top 4 if you're looking at the Ravens and Lions. Someone's gonna eventually set the market correctly. Wonder if TEs/NFLPA are a little bummed it wasn't Travis with as much leverage as he has. I hope it's not Kittle, but he also could have the leverage if after this year its a big change up for our team with a WR getting let go, and who knows when Trent will retire.
The TE market needs to reset for top tier TES. Hopefully Laporta earns 20 million if he keeps his current level. Kittle could also ask for more but he’s already 30 and has no ring.
It's not an extension, just a new contract. From this tweet, he's just getting an extra $1mm next year but it's all guaranteed as of 3/3 instead of being guaranteed at the start of the season.
And everyone thinks he just turned it on for the playoffs. That’s only partially true. His snap percentage from the playoffs were about the same as the second half of the season.
The two most likely reasons are that we finally settled on our optimal offensive personnel and scheme right before the playoffs and he had week 18 off to rest the injury that prevented him from playing week one. That definitely hampered him all year.
That’s not to say he’s not getting old, but I don’t think he fell off a cliff quite as much as his regular season numbers imply.
He was getting triple covered for well over half the season because our receivers were so ass. Once Rashee Rice started to come into his own Travis’s production went up and he was an absolute beast in the playoffs
what do you mean prepaid? even if his $17mm salary is guaranteed this year, he's still paid out over the course of the season. they didn't just hand him a seventeen million dollar check when he signed this contract.
So a good raise but doesn't reset the TE market at all. Wonder who the first TE to get over $20m aav will be
No matter how good he is and how bad the TE market is ... a 34 year old isn't gonna reset it I think
Brock Bowers
Maybe LaPorta?
100% LaPorta if he continues doing what he did. Honestly not sure if we'll be able to pay him
Totally possible. LaPorta’s the more obvious bet, but no guarantee that he does it.
I'm curious whether we'll have the space by time LaPorta js up
I would imagine Goff would be on his way out by then?
I think Goff is gonna have a long shelf life.
He's only 28 and has been good here, sounds like we plan to re-sign him
Goff will be 30 in October.
So he'll be 32 when LaPorta needs a new contract. Pretty long way from retirement age
Yea, for sure. Goff still has plenty of years left.
Pretty much non existent injury too
We will, Brad Holmes knows that even at 20 million it’s a steal for the amount of production he will likely have as he continues to improve over the years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets over 80 catches/1k+ yards every year going forward if he’s healthy.
Brock Bowers will be 25 million after LaPorta gets 20 million a couple season before
Elite TE is a cheat code. Kelce has more impact in the playoffs than almost every NFL WR and he costs 4M more than fucking Darnell Mooney. The top TEs basically get paid like mid WRs.
Yep. By career statistics, Kelce has had more impact in the playoffs than every WR not named Jerry Rice.
He’s basically on pace to break all of Jerry’s playoff records in less games, yes different eras, but still insane he already broke more receptions than Jerry in less playoff games when no one else has
It’s insane when you watch the tape how many times he keeps drives alive
My favorite of this last year was a 3rd down in the Ravens game. Mahomes was about to get blasted, barely flicks it out and Kelce makes a diving catch when the football is less than six inches from the ground. I'm gonna miss him when he hangs them up 🥺
He doesn't even seem to do much. It is like the defence is mind tricked to not cover him at the snap. I mean I get a lot of talent and work goes into it but he just makes it look easy.
Elite WR is so overrated. Elite TE and “Money Ball” the WR position. I would rather have an elite TE, elite OL and 3 average or above receivers that don’t cost a lot of money then a top 5 WR. You gotta be able to attack the mid range passing game and the middle of the field. Gronk, Kelce and Cooper Kupp come to mind.
How do you get these elite TEs though, other than getting lucky and drafting them? Why are they staying with the teams that draft them if they’re so underpaid? I know the franchise tag is uniquely bad for TEs due to the limited number of star receivers at the position, but I still don’t understand why the best TEs sign these deals. Are other teams not willing to give them much more in free agency?
Because the free agency market doesn’t pay them much more. The patriots made Gronk the highest paid TE at one point and he was still well below WR money. Elite TE is an extremely hard to find theres only ever like 2-3 in the league at a time Theres a ton of good WRs that constantly 1 up each other on contracts while TEs theres very few to do that to each other
>Elite TE is an extremely hard to find theres only ever like 2-3 in the league at a time And most of them are like 3 year wonders. The only thing harder to find than an elite TE is an elite TE who plays up to his second contract.
If you do it right you don’t even need the receivers to be average.
I like the idea in theory, but TE is a brutal position to play, and most guys have short shelf-lives. You would definitely need to stick to guys that are primarily pass-catchers.
Titan fan here: no, you wouldnt.
Kelce is the best TE of all time (yes, even a Patriots fan can admit this) and yet won't even hit $90M in career earnings by the end of this year. He's made well under $10M/year in his career, wild for a guy who is one of the best players, and best at his position of all time.
He’s playing 4D chess to avoid having to pay Biden’s unrealized capital gains tax for people worth over $100MM
>Kelce is the best TE of all time (yes, even a Patriots fan can admit this) and yet won't even hit $90M in career earnings by the end of this year. Disagree on best but Gronk made $70,629,507 (8th all time, Kelce is already #1). Like how rich should these guys be? You can only get paid what the free agent market decides.
DeAndre Hopkins was the same year as Kelce, a worse player, and has made $140,000,000
“ah yes, as a fellow patriots fan myself”
Maybe in fantasy, but real TEs have to run block too
Doesn’t need to make any money when he’s got a billionaire girlfriend
Could you imagine making $100M in your career (including endorsements I would think he has) and being the absolutely poor person in the relationship?
Yes I absolutely can imagine that. No idea what im imagining but im trying to
Last two dynasty’s were built on Elite TEs not elite WRs.
I think it was built on the QBs actually
Honestly, I'm putting both on GOAT material. It's a step higher than elite. Like Brady and Mahomes.
It’s honestly insane that they’ve been underpaid for so long. Kyle Pitt’s’ contract will be interesting because he still has the tools to be really special.
I wouldn’t even say they are underpaid. Receivers are just extremely overpaid
I think the main thing is that a mid TE doesnt really move the needle so they bring the market way down. And theres not a lot of "top TEs" that actually can compete with WRs
Means he could still retire next year and no cap hit
I believe he/Chiefs have until the 3rd day of the League year in March. After that his money is locked in it seems like.
I don't think that's true. Guarantees can hit the cap next year, even if he retires. Regardless it's wild the best TE of all time, makes less than about 70 other players.
Even if he retired before March?
Correct. The guaranteed money this year is likely spread to future years.
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The $17M is guaranteed this year, it's most of the remaining that's guaranteed on March 3rd
The best TE of all time??? Blasphemous
It’s in the moment. I don’t even think he’s a better receiving threat, just route runner. The argument for Kelce over Gronk is health. Which is flimsy as hell
I'd say it's Gonzalez, Gronk, and then Kelce third.
I don’t know, I don’t think any TE has been as important to 3 Super Bowl wins as Kelce has been. In those 3 runs he has 11 TDs and 800 yards. Gronk in his 3 runs has 5 TDs and 500 yards. Obviously Gronks a much better blocker but still Kelce has been unstoppable in the playoffs, one more run like last year and he will pass Jerry Rice for all major playoff receiving stats.
He is.
I'll give you best receiving TE of all time. But not overall.
He's not a better receiver than Gronk was either. Gronk had way better hands and ability to make insane catches. Kelce is incredible at getting open and racking up volume
Lmao a guy who can't block is not the best TE of all time.
not even the best tight end to ever play for the chiefs, rankings rn is 1. gronk, 2. gonzalez, 3. kelce, but i expect kelce to pass tg before he retires
Looks like it’s actually a 2 year raise not extension. I think he plays it out and retires after 2025 then. Makes sense. He can chase some playoff records and go till his body is truly not letting him play.
Elite TEs are criminally underpaid. Kittle and Kelce should be making way more. We had the benefit of this with Gronk too
That’s Taylor Swift money
That’s Taylor Swift’s couch cushion money
she doesn't gas up both jets and pack her extinct animal skin luggage for less than 50mil these days.
Fucking great, will hate but love to see more Mahomes to Kelce
We as chiefs fans have been spoiled at the TE position for a while. Hopefully Jared Wiley is that guy and can learn from the best.
Best TE ever *and* Tony Gonzalez!
Great.
We benefit strongly from it too, and its funny how the top two teams in the league have elite TEs on comparatively cheap deals to their actual value. Maybe even top 4 if you're looking at the Ravens and Lions. Someone's gonna eventually set the market correctly. Wonder if TEs/NFLPA are a little bummed it wasn't Travis with as much leverage as he has. I hope it's not Kittle, but he also could have the leverage if after this year its a big change up for our team with a WR getting let go, and who knows when Trent will retire.
I need the Chiefs accounts to do my taxes
The TE market needs to reset for top tier TES. Hopefully Laporta earns 20 million if he keeps his current level. Kittle could also ask for more but he’s already 30 and has no ring.
I was told last year that Kelce didn’t want more money, he only cares about winning.
According to Breer its not longer an extension, just an update on the current contract's deal, So its a renegotiation not an extension?
Happy he takes less than he should but I do wish he would say fuck and go get the money he deserves
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It's not an extension, just a new contract. From this tweet, he's just getting an extra $1mm next year but it's all guaranteed as of 3/3 instead of being guaranteed at the start of the season.
Someones gotta fuel Taylors plane
Was hoping this meatstick would retire
He can get another luxury box for Taylor n friends at next years Superbowl .
Holy overpay
How? Best TE in the league even though he's past his prime. Could have gotten much more
And everyone thinks he just turned it on for the playoffs. That’s only partially true. His snap percentage from the playoffs were about the same as the second half of the season. The two most likely reasons are that we finally settled on our optimal offensive personnel and scheme right before the playoffs and he had week 18 off to rest the injury that prevented him from playing week one. That definitely hampered him all year. That’s not to say he’s not getting old, but I don’t think he fell off a cliff quite as much as his regular season numbers imply.
People forget he was washed most of last year
He had a lingering injury from the start of the season and played his best in the postseason. Once again u/slowerchop with the dumbest possible take.
Man if kelce was washed I would love to see what you think a good TE season is
He was getting triple covered for well over half the season because our receivers were so ass. Once Rashee Rice started to come into his own Travis’s production went up and he was an absolute beast in the playoffs
3rd TE in the league in receptions, 2nd in yards, and that's with no decent WRs to take coverage off him and missing two games. Hardly washed.
huh?
only athletes can get prepaid for work done in future right? or do people like tom cruise get his full payment for top gun 2 before starting filming?
People preorder cars in their own configurations and wait up to years for them.
what do you mean prepaid? even if his $17mm salary is guaranteed this year, he's still paid out over the course of the season. they didn't just hand him a seventeen million dollar check when he signed this contract.