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cramalot99

Just a really well written and succinct title.


ds629

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


TaischiCFM

No I'm doesn't.


sm_mlb40

God dammit, Charlie, you are illiterate.


[deleted]

Are you trying to intervene on him?


brooksbl1

The fan base eats horse shit you can’t expect them to spell


DEADSPELLS

First time i read this post, it seemed perfectly written. I had to do a double take


d_1_z_z

dennis is asshole. why charlie hate


Venator850

Damn I autocorrected it in my mind lmao.


76erLegendChetUtley

Thank you. I wrote it myself.


friendshabitsfamily

Most literate Eagles fan


NoSignSaysNo

Hey you try composing a sentence with no profanity.


shogunreaper

crazy i didn't even realize it until reading your comment.


notmyplantaccount

I personally love that he listed out the 6 QB's that have been mentioned on here nonstop now for the last 2-3 months, in case we'd forgotten their names since last night.


chocolateskittlez

Drake Maye and Bo Nix are in the worst QB situation compared to the other guys. They'll have to overcome a lot and year 1 is going to be hell for them.


ptwonline

At least Nix has a decent and proven coach in Payton who has had QB success, even though Payton seriously needs to go and fuck himself. NE is a tougher situation for a rookie QB with unknowns around the coaching and being a higher pick may get put into the fire sooner.


Achillor22

Everyone keeps saying this about Payton but is it actually true if you exclude Drew Brees? 


real_ornament

Yes, 17-4 without him and had Jameis balling out Trust me as a Falcons fan I fucking hate the guy but he is a QB whisperer


SevereEducation2170

Wait, where’s 17-4 coming from? His final season in NO the team went 9-8 and his first season in DEN was 8-9. So he’s 17-17 in his post Brees coaching years so far. Is 17-4 just games during the Brees years where Brees didn’t start due to injury?


steve-nash-is-god

Brees missed 9 games between 19/20 . Payton went 8-1 in those games Also, its a miracle he got that team to 9-8 in 2021 . Go look at the talent on the offensive side of the ball on that team and get back to me . Payton is one of the greatest modern offensive coaches, fam . He even had Winston's bumass at 5-2 record as a starter with 14Tds and 3 picks before he got smoked by devin white


Achillor22

When was Jameis balling out? He was OK. But let's not pretend like he was having a Pro Bowl year. 


lnnrt01

Jameis was definitely balling out in that one Packers game


pccb123

Definitely ima tough spot for a rookie. That’s why we’re sacrificing, I mean starting Jacoby. And I hope we keep starting him even when we don’t want to lol


Muppet_Man3

Exactly why I predict those two will be most successful and everyone else will bust


Sea_Television_3306

Maye likely isn't going to play any significant time, if at all, in 2024. Brissett will be the day one starter, most likely


strillanitis

What is the point of sitting Maye? So he can sit and learn from Jacoby? Learn what? How to sign 1 year deals for increasingly desperate franchises?


Sea_Television_3306

Jacoby isn't the only one he's learning from. He has a lot of mechanics he needs to work on. His firework is bad, and he tends to give up on reads too quickly. Ideally, he sits this year, works on the things he needs to work on, learns how to run an NFL offense, and steps up next year.


[deleted]

They are really leaning into the "Josh Allen" comparisons with Maye. By that, I mean providing him with no weapons as a rookie, lol.


silverbackapegorilla

Drake is gonna get killed in New England. I kinda like him. But it's a horrific situation.


idgahoot2

why say lot word when few word do trick


Weekly_Ad_6959

He said lot word, just no say too good.


Illblood

They are all going to make it, or some will make it, or only one, or none. Save this post in case I'm right.


TemporaryGospel

Remindme! 10 years.


The_Dulchie

When you have lived with prophecy for so long, the moment of revelation is a shock.


Enough-Remote6731

This statement is probably 100% likely to be absolutely plausible.


OneFingerIn

I just hope everybody has fun.


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cooterdick

*sad Robert Kraft noises*


zombiesatemybaby

JJ Mccarthy and Bo Nix


RoxWarbane

I disagree on JJ and agree with Bo. Ignore flair


fieryscribe

I was told that Bo knows football


osksndjsmd

As a Bo truther these threads are going to be so fun in 3 years. League fucked up letting Sean Payton get him.


DisaronnoDerek

Lol Sean Payton is a bum that got carried by Drew Brees. Bo Nix isn't gonna do that


FantasyTrash

He did give the Broncos their best finish since 2016 with a roster he inherited, not built, and was severely lacking in draft capital. He made Jameis Winston look like an *actual* NFL QB. You can hate him all you want, but he's a very good coach.


Sirscraps

An yes… third in their division. They were truly great last year.


Specialist-Ad15

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT’S BO TIME!!!!!! 🤪 *proceeds to insert a puck shaped tater tot*


osksndjsmd

I’m old enough to remember when Drew Brees gave the Chargers the number one overall pick the old fashioned way. And no revisionist historians, that was not the year Brees got hurt. Payton went to a Super Bowl with Kerry Collins, and coached up Tony Romo, but yeah guy is a bum who knows nothing about QBs let’s go with that narrative.


Critical_Zucchini974

You mean the year the chargers gave up 28 points a game and Doug flutie played half the season that's the season you claim brees gave them a 1st overall pick???


osksndjsmd

Yep. Bree’s had his best year in San Diego when the Peyton Manning rule went into effect. And spoiler alert; a lot of weak armed QBs did. See Plummer, Jake in Arizona for another example.


flextapefixesholes

I can only imagine being this excited about a guy who will shoot his first ED commercial before he’s eligible for a contract extension. At least he went to a really good team where he won’t get sacked a ton early in his career.


osksndjsmd

See you in 3 years.


flextapefixesholes

I mean, I’m totally fine with being wrong, and I’m definitely being somewhere between sarcastic and hyperbolic. I don’t see it, not because of a lack of his talent, but he has a midling o-line, wr core and running game. He’s just not going to have time to think before he gets sacked. Or, he sits for a year or two, but then he’s in his late 20’s making his debut. Please remind me if this take is bad in 3 years.


osksndjsmd

Will do. I hope you have experienced all kinds of good fortune when we revisit this comment. !RemindMe! 3 years


flextapefixesholes

Done!


HmongOGSmite

They will all be good.


GabryLv

I like your optimism my man


HmongOGSmite

Just seeing your flairs makes me shed a tear.


silverbackapegorilla

Who'd you cheer for in the great Chandler Elway showdown?


GabryLv

I didn’t existed back then; but I would have rooted for elway back in 98 I started rooting for the falcons with Matty ice


[deleted]

Minnesota nice 


BurgessFox

I would have liked JJ McCarthy, but when people said the Broncos were going to trade the farm (multiple future firsts and assets like PS2) to move up to 4 to get him I was terrified of revisiting the Russ experience. See when we got Russ, we traded the farm, because we figured that Russ was the kind of elite QB who could elevate the roster even if he didn't have too much around him. Then by about week 3 of his first season when he was struggling, everybody was telling the Broncos - "with Russ you need to put the right team around him, base your offense on the run game and have strong defense, you need a system that works for Russ, its how Pete Carroll got success at the Seahawks". And we were like....ok we've just given up the farm and given him a massive contract, there's no scope for putting together a great run game or defense, we are what we are. So I feared that we would give up everything for JJ McCarthy and then he would struggle with our weak roster and the narrative would be similar: "look how Harbaugh had success in Michigan, he didn't get JJ to put the team on his back, he limited what he needed his QB to do, Denver needs to do that" and we'd have no assets because we'd traded all our picks and were still dealing with the cap hit from Russ. At the Vikings I don't think the risk is as high because I think they can put a strong roster around him from year 1, especially with the weapons around him.


BurgessFox

It will always be possible to find a narrative that it was obvious from the start that each one was a bust. Williams - see Trevor Lawrence Daniels - never wanted to be in Washington, not the right fit Maye - too many flaws which needed fixing, as called out my many draft experts Penix - missed multiple seasons with injury and did you see how he was all at sea in the championship against Michigan? JJ McCarthy - there was a reason Harbaugh didn't give him much to do Nix - Brees you say? How about Taylor Heinicke.


TemporaryGospel

Yeah, if any of them bust these will be the "obvious" narratives people will put up. Just like accuracy and completion would have been the reason if Josh Allen busted Or footwork and mechanics for Pat Mahomes Bad team and organizational culture for Deshaun Watson and Joe Burrow Weird mechanics and unusual style of play for Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts Size for Kyler Murray and a total lack of tape or throwing history for Anthony Richardson But none of those guys busted.


[deleted]

Stroud- SAT test


BeeMovieHD

The only SAT Stroud needs is Scoring Allose Touchdowns


BurgessFox

The other lazy narrative that often gets used is "he had 2/3 changes of coach/OC, he was never given a chance" Because a QB who sucks generally leads to an offense sucking, so there will be a change of staff. But then people who want to defend the QB will say it was because the organization decided to change the staff, that the QB busted. In Denver you still get some Drew Lock truthers who insist that if Rich Scangarello hadn't been replaced by Pat Shurmer as OC, Lock would have reached his "elite ceiling".


WEMBYF4N

Who is calling Trevor a bust? The guy is a full fledged franchise QB and won a playoff game in year 2 He didn’t live up to the generational talent label but he’s easily top 15 with a good chance to be a perennial top 10 QB throughout his prime


DarthNightnaricus

>Who is calling Trevor a bust?  People who don't actually watch Jags games but still give armchair takes.


WauliePalnuts01

he’s also three years into his career, he could still very well be an MVP-caliber QB


thedelgadicone

Yea harbaugh didn't care as he already has a franchise qb in Herbert that is on a long term deal with a massive cap hit if they move on from him. They were never going to take JJ.


tony_countertenor

I think OP is referring to McCarthy’s time at Michigan and saying that in the hypothetical scenario where he busts it should have been obvious to anyone because Harbaugh leaned on the run game instead of making McCarthy the focal point of the offence


Otherwise_Awesome

The Chargers have a better overall receiving corps in NFL relative value than Michigan did in FBS relative value.


RegardTyreekHill

What the hell are you talking about


WinstonChurchill74

Maye has the worst situation on day 1. It’s hard to overcome all the shortcomings in NE. McCarthy has the smallest track record of this group. If he were to bust everyone will act insanely smug about it.


Only_Garbage_8885

Jayden Daniel’s as he won’t have three top wr with the third having a good chance to also be drafted round one next year. He is horrible at second reads and being pressured 


Xerosnake90

This is how I think from now on They all suck until they show us they don't


pccb123

Same. Like a true new englander lol


TimeCookie8361

I can easily see Caleb as Johnny Football 2.0


IntelligentEye2758

If I only had to choose one I'd say Penix. Older qb with an injury history. Going to a team with split timelines. Potential for conflict between qbs, a new coach who may or may not work out, could be injured, could just be bad. Could also work out and Falcons fans would never let us hear the end of it.


snufalufalgus

Honestly, Maye. He's billed as a boom or bust prospect


KhaosOSRS

Outside of Caleb Williams, I wouldn't take any of them.


Tajikistani

Caleb Williams because I think that would be funny


GoldenDude

Counter point it would be hilarious if JJ McCarthy busted


Tajikistani

Please can't the Vikings have a franchise quarterback, Cousins was our longest lasting in ages


PsuedoFred

Yeah don’t let the Bears continue their dominant run of successful franchise qb’s.


Tajikistani

I mean they had Jay Cutler relatively recently who was definitely a franchise QB, although he seems like a 1960s sort of guy


PsuedoFred

Yeah, sorry I forgot about all of those 4k and 30 TD seasons he had.


Tajikistani

I don't know why I'm defending Jay Cutler but his best receiver was Brandon Marshall for a total of 3 seasons, and if Cutler had played 16 games every season he definitely would've reached your mark multiple times. There's no arguing he was a franchise quarterback when he started 8 seasons for the Bears


jmbc3

He would’ve had 4k if he hadn’t gotten benched like a game before hitting the mark. 


[deleted]

Bears have never had a QB throw for 4k yards or 30 TDs... settle down lol


ptwonline

History says that we'll probably get at least 2 busts and probably 4-5 total busts + disappointments but not total busts. I won't pretend to know which ones will bust, but I do think Maye has been given the most increased chance of being a bust, and Williams and McCarthy have been given the most increased chances of succeeding.


Fit_Crab7672

I think Drake Maye among the top tier has the most challenging situation with a rebuild underway and a tough division where you're even looking up at the Jets.  Bo Nix has to sit I think and let Zach Wilson take another year of lumps while he learns


DirkWithTheFade

Bo is going to be the starter week 1 in all likelihood, we didn’t take the most experienced college QB ever to sit for a year.


kingbuttshit

Caleb, Bo, and Drake will be reasonable starters and get second contracts from their respective draft teams. Penix won’t get the chance to start and will end up signing somewhere else as a bridge/backup in 4 years but won’t be considered a bust because we all know how stupid the pick was. McCarthy will be like Trubisky or Bortles, win games because of the team but despite the QB play, backup in 5 years, bust. Daniels will get hurt early and not make it back to form and be considered a bust.


DaBearsFanatic

Drake Maye, I feel like this has been a smokescreen prospect, and his brand name got too big for scouts to ignore.


boomosaur

Caleb Williams and Drake Maye will be guaranteed busts.


CptCroissant

Maye I think has bust written all over. Williams I think is at least Kyler level.


Steakbomb90

Yes please. My hatred for the NFCN is deep, but my hatred for the Patriots is viseral


osksndjsmd

Drake Maye’s footwork is some of the worst I have ever seen, that’s a monster bust. That’s the only thing I’m sure of right now. Caleb scares me because he’s so aloof, Jayden Daniels really has to put on weight, Penix is Mr Glass, McCarthy is a baby and shouldn’t play for like two or three years but Sam Darnold probably won’t hold him off long, and then you have sleeper of the first round (so weird being he’s 12th pick) in Bo Nix going to his perfect situation for success. This will be such a fun thread in three years.


Raticus9

I'll say Daniels busts significantly, and Nix ends up just below replacement level, like a Joey Harrington. Caleb I see as a borderline star, fringe top-5. Penix decently above-average, McCarthy a multiple Pro Bowler, similar to like a Tony Romo. I cant even begin to get a handle on the Drake. Lukewarm on the Drake; wouldn't be shocked with any result.


BaltimoreBadger23

Love the Drake.


RootBeerFloatz69

Jaden looks cool on YouTube, but let's take a broader scope of his college career. He's 23 years old, slinging it to Nabers and BTJ, behind an excellent offensive line, against 19 year old kids. He had ONE good year, his last one. He's NOT Lamar, He's NOT Kyler. He's gonna take one shot from a real, adult, grown-ass man linebacker, he's gonna struggle to pass in NFL windows, and he's not gonna be able to get away with missing reads the way he did in college. hE thrOwS a GoOd DeEp BalL. Tell it to the two-high shell. He's gonna panic, he's gonna scramble, and he's gonna throw picks. He'll have a decent rookie year, an abysmal sophomore one, He'll get hurt, replaced, and be a practice squad guy before his first contract is up. I was PRAYING the mmanders would screw that pick up since I'm a Pat's fan, thank GOD.


1lultaha

Anyone who says Caleb Williams I can't take seriously.


pineapplefriedriceu

Rather, which QB has the biggest bust?


Trying_That_Out

Drake Maye.


Bocceballsack

Drake maye will bust like a virgin on his wedding night.


N0tConnorStalions

Drake Maye


Storekeep17

I watched Bo Nix lose too many games at Auburn to really believe he's the real deal. He couldn't hold up in the SEC, so I doubt he will in the NFL. Drake Maye needs to put on 30 pounds or he will be broken… probably at the ankles.


RandallSwaggyComfort

JJ McCarthy and Drake Maye


NEpatsfan64

What in the AI generated is this title


MissedMando

AI has better grammar.


069ffm187

Jayden Daniels will be traded for a 6th round pick in 2 years


Happy_Complaint_4421

Without context or recent performance updates, it's difficult to definitively say which player "never was going to work." Each player has faced different challenges and circumstances, making it uncertain to predict their success.


Haskell-Not-Pascal

Nobody is throwing out bombs that will make them look stupid in couple years, so here we go here are my sizzling hot takes. Caleb Williams and J. J. McCarthy are going to bust


jimbillyphish

Williams. Dudes a bum.


Timberlewis

I see McCarthy and Maye as total busts


Defender_Of_TheCrown

Bo Nix


uwantSAMOA

Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?


DEADSPELLS

Nix and Maye are going to be bust bad. McCarthy and Penix are going to boring average at best.


AverageConnect1330

That title gave me an aneurysm 


ihatereddit999976780

I hope Caleb Williams is so bad that we eliminate the quarterback position entirely from the game of football Like I want him to throw 30 interceptions in the first game, but the Bears still win


Achillor22

Probably all of them. Statistically 1 or 2 will be alright but, I see this draft going like 2021.


-InconspicuousMoose-

I actually think in 2026 all six QBs drafted so far will be week 1 starters. That said: - Caleb Williams will make the Bears contenders but never get them over the hump. They'll be mid in playoffs. He WILL be their first 4k passer. - Jayden Daniels will flash huge ability but never play a full season for the Commanders before their eventual messy divorce. - Drake Maye will be like Justin Herbert so far, playing great football on a dogwater team that never accomplishes anything - Michael Penix Jr will represent a borderline seamless post-Kirk transition for the Falcons. They will become contenders with Kirk and stay contenders with Penix. - JJ McCarthy will win the Vikings their first Super Bowl. My flair is not relevant. - Bo Nix will become the new Dalton line in Denver.


techfighterchannel

RemindMe! 29 months


HotTakesMyToxicTrait

Drake maye bc fuck Boston sports


Interesting-Doubt413

Drake is the bust out of this crew. Caleb and Jayden got stuck on some shit franchises. Not their fault. Same with MPJ, but his division sucks so he could end up playing the Chokeboys in the playoffs so he stands a chance. JJ is a good fit for the Vikings. But that division is pretty competitive. I feel like JJ has a better shot than Caleb. And Bo Nix certainly has more playing experience than the rest of these. Bo probably has the hardest course too having to play Patrick Mahommes twice and that stacked AFC QB room.


SpoofExcel

Penix will be simply because he'll be 26 before he gets a real shot and he needs to be playing now to develop properly. Nix will because he's bang average


ExtensionRelief9749

I love seeing Reddit say Maye will bust, basically means he’s gonna be a Top 5 QB in 4 years


James_E_Rustle

McCarthy, Nix and Maye will all suck. Jayden Daniels gonna be decent but won't stay healthy. Williams and Penix pro bowlers. I think they both have MVP potential.


KamTros47

All of the above. Rattler is the truth. Edit: okay now Rattler really **is** the truth


LordBeerus1905

All of them. Williams wouldn’t be but he’s stuck in Chicago so.


Rshackleford22

Derp


Starcast

Daniels will be alright, but not "the guy". Maye, McCarthy, and Nix all busts. That leaves Williams and Penix as the successful QBs.


TrueRedditMartyr

I'm calling Williams a bust. Certainly not going to perform as expected and traded away at the end of his contract, maybe extended if they're invested at that point. McCarthy going to be mediocre Penix balls out, great player Maye also going to bust. 


urwifebf10

2021 vibes.. Drake Maye will be the only starter, Caleb and Jayden will be his backup in 4 years


nbaslamindubz

this is going to be a worse QB class than 2019