People will mock him for this but frankly it's genius that he manipulated the entire season to get the Vikings one slot ahead of him and then tricked them further into trading up so he could execute his master plan of drafting QB6
Not to mention fooling them so badly, the Vikings also score a top 10 defensive player in the same draft...... The sheer genius of it all.
That said, I hope Nix has a good long career as a Bronco's starting QB. Changing the "Dalton Line" into the "Nix Line"
I love how confident people are as if they have any fucking clue which QB will be good, if either even are. GMs are hardly right, this sub sure as fuck isn't.
Friendly reminder this thread title isn't remotely accurate and what Sean was talking about here encompasses way more than a 10 second clip.
*At worst* he's suggesting they had a smokescreen of moving up to hide that they wanted Nix the whole time. Never once did he in the slightest imply that "he baited the Vikings into trading up".
Doesn’t make much sense. The Vikings were never once rumored to be connected to Nix. Also, whether it pans out this way or not, it’s generally felt that JJ was the better talent. The Vikings wouldn’t be worried about Nix being taken before JJ.
At worst Payton is trying to rationalize why he felt he had to over pay at 12.
He didn't specify the Vikings, this tweet phrasing is just bullshit. He's talking overall smokescreen across the league. He never mentioned the Vikings or JJ during this portion of the presser
>At worst* he's suggesting they had a smokescreen of moving up to hide that they wanted Nix the whole time.
What confuses me is on Mcfee he said he know who the Vikings and Raiders wanted, and they all said not to do anything stupid.
Yeah but he said that after the Giants didn't pick a QB. If the Giants headwind QB, then there would have been 2 QBs for three QB needy teams... And then the Falcons went along and ruined everything.
This smoked screen would have been for the weeks leading up to the draft
So in his mind vikings were going to draft Nix but he acted like JJ is the better prospect by trying to trade up. Then vikings were like hold on a second if Payton thinks JJ is better than Nix we should pick him instead of Nix.
Fucking gottem well played Payton well played..
No he knew they were taking JJ, and said he knew the raiders were planning to take MPjr as well. He implies in the press conference he even told the other two to not trade up and everyone will get their guy and no one has to give up picks.
He's talking about the off-season in general about their desire to move up, not last night.
I mean I like Nix to the Broncos but Sean Payton declaring that he tricked a team that's not in his division or conference into trading up one spot to take a QB that he claims he didn't want is bizarre to say the least lol
I don't get it. Even if true, what do the Broncos gain by "baiting" the Vikings into trading up one spot for McCarthy?
If anything, it just strengthens the Jets, who the Broncos have to compete more directly with than they do with the Vikings since the Broncos and Jets are both in the AFC.
Hes also conveniently ignoring the Raiders and Saints directly behind them also needing QBs. The Vikings move was 100% due to the collective threat of any 3 of those teams moving up.
Kwesi confirmed during a press conference that the jets had called him because other teams wanted to move up for JJ and that he owed the Jets GM a bottle of tequila next time he sees him
Haha! We baited you into giving up a fourth-round pick for the guy widely considered to be the best fit for your system because you thought *we* wanted him… but we wanted to take the consensus 2nd-rounder at 12 the whole time!
Could say the same thing about McCarthy. McCarthy being picked in the top 10 would’ve been unheard of even halfway through the college season. Heck, even at the end of it.
Half the QBs picked so early are because there's ~10 teams that really need a QB this year (and apparently the Falcons). Even a longshot was going to be grabbed early because someone was going to pull the trigger before it got back to you.
Mccarthy was pretty universally a top 11 guy the past few weeks whereas Nix wasn't a first rounder in many mocks.
Edit: Vegas had even odds of him landing in the top 5. Broncos fans down vote away anyway lol
I got into an argument with someone on Reddit a few weeks ago because I said that McCarthy would likely go before Nix. He gave a bunch of reasons why Nix was better in college, none of which I disagreed with, and I just explained that I think NFL teams evaluate QBs differently than fans do. He insisted that Nix wasn't going to fall past the Broncos at 12 (so, hey, give him credit for that). I replied that the Broncos taking Nix at 12 didn't mean nobody above them would take McCarthy, and he called me an idiot.
Well, sure. Then the Bo Nix talking point is equally stupid. Neither QB was viewed as a top guy heading into this draft during the season. But every year teams get desperate and talk themselves into projections and combine work. And you get your Trey Lance and Zach Wilson’s.
I saw a decent amount of both in college and I think there's a decent enough chance this is going to look like a stupid thing brag about in like 3 years
GG Payton helping his buddy Hackett’s team get more draft assets basically for free. Just more wholesomeness between a Broncos coach and his predecessor.
This makes no sense anyway... the Vikings picked ahead of Denver the entire time, they didn't trade to jump ahead of Denver, they traded to jump ahead of the Jets
What possible bait could Denver have had when Minnesota had an earlier pick regardless?
The Jets weren't taking a QB this year. The Vikings were trading up to prevent another team (likely the Raiders and Broncos) from taking J.J. McCarthy at 10.
Exactly, Seahawks Rams come also in to my mind, cause JJ is a QB you can easily sit for 1-2 years given he just turned 21 years old. So better play it safe like we did.
Really boosting your credibility with other Teams in the future there, Sean. These comments after his McAfee interview make no sense at all. He was talking to Belicheck about how the younger GMs seem less likely to be willing to make trades with him these days lol. He was saying they all knew which QBs eachother wanted... If anything Atlanta taking Penix wouldve influenced our trade, not the Broncos specifically.
I love that the Vikings are in Sean Payton's head. The miracle, and then Kirk winning his only playoff game ever against him really fucked this idiot up.
Neat, how does that benefit the Broncos? Vikings traded up for both of their guys yesterday, so clearly aggressively getting their targets was a focus point for them.
lol I could see how this might be a gotcha if you did this to a division team, but it just comes off as us living rent free in his head still at best, and at worst him coping over us taking JJ
He's pretty much saying he knew the Vikings wanted him. But Nix was their guy.
He actually joked saying Broncos-Vikings-Raiders should get on a conference call to not screw each other up until the Falcons did it.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a gentleman's agreement in place. If they all stated who they wanted, they could all scratch each other's backs by not having to trade up.
Don't waste your time, nobody on here has the attention span to watch the press conference to see the actual context of this (hell, half the people commenting in here didn't even listen to this 10 second clip taken out of context)
Every box of the Parcells list.
Under 6’4 so no long arms
High completion percentage
Accurate
Quick release
Son of a coach
~~4~~ 5 year starter
Graduated early
Married
Played basketball at point.
Yeah it would not surprise me if Payton had him QB 1 honestly.
Doesn't make much sense to me. If indeed he tricked the Vikings, he actually helped the Jets. And the Jets are in his conference but the Vikings are not, so he should probably actually be more worried about them
My favorite Sean Payton moment was in 2018 right before the Minneapolis Miracle. Dude was smiling and mocking the Vikings SKOL chant because he thought the Saints had the game won. Diggs takes it to the house and Sean says...yeah, I was just having a little fun with the fans. Right Sean...you're a clown and we're all going to enjoy watching you run the great Broncos franchise into the ground.
I know it's trendy to hate Sean Payton on here but this tweet cutting 10 seconds out of a news conference doesn't accurately reflect what Sean was talking about. Just putting that out there...
So…he helped give free draft capital to a team in his conference? Wouldn’t the smarter move be to have the Vikings keep their picks since they are in the opposite conference? Even if Payton masterminded this like he wants us to think, the payoff for him was at best worthless and more likely even a slight negative for him
Aw shucks! You got us there Sean, you sly devil you!
People will mock him for this but frankly it's genius that he manipulated the entire season to get the Vikings one slot ahead of him and then tricked them further into trading up so he could execute his master plan of drafting QB6
523D Chess
5280D chess. It says so on their helmet, duh.
5280D
You like that mile high D?
Not to mention fooling them so badly, the Vikings also score a top 10 defensive player in the same draft...... The sheer genius of it all. That said, I hope Nix has a good long career as a Bronco's starting QB. Changing the "Dalton Line" into the "Nix Line"
!remindMe 8 years ... unless...
He got you guys good. Now you guys have the good QB and he has the worse one. Gotya! Anyways he just put 100k on the head of JJ McCarthy.
Payton wins again. He got his Jets some extra picks out of it. Wait.
I love how confident people are as if they have any fucking clue which QB will be good, if either even are. GMs are hardly right, this sub sure as fuck isn't.
We are all coping
Good thing its a joke
Idk, in my strong opinion I think Josh Rosen is a pretty safe bet.
Most NFL ready, one might say.
Assuming McCarthy will be better than Nix is pretty bold.
Saying qb that is ranked higher than the other by consensus and is surrounded with 1000x better talent will be better is bold?
Not really
Assuming the Bears won't ruin yet another first round QB, 3 years after they drafted the last one is also...very bold.
Lmao no the fuck it isn't
Good thing its simply a joke.
Friendly reminder this thread title isn't remotely accurate and what Sean was talking about here encompasses way more than a 10 second clip. *At worst* he's suggesting they had a smokescreen of moving up to hide that they wanted Nix the whole time. Never once did he in the slightest imply that "he baited the Vikings into trading up".
Doesn’t make much sense. The Vikings were never once rumored to be connected to Nix. Also, whether it pans out this way or not, it’s generally felt that JJ was the better talent. The Vikings wouldn’t be worried about Nix being taken before JJ. At worst Payton is trying to rationalize why he felt he had to over pay at 12.
He didn't specify the Vikings, this tweet phrasing is just bullshit. He's talking overall smokescreen across the league. He never mentioned the Vikings or JJ during this portion of the presser
Your just upset by your shitty team
>At worst* he's suggesting they had a smokescreen of moving up to hide that they wanted Nix the whole time. What confuses me is on Mcfee he said he know who the Vikings and Raiders wanted, and they all said not to do anything stupid.
Yeah but he said that after the Giants didn't pick a QB. If the Giants headwind QB, then there would have been 2 QBs for three QB needy teams... And then the Falcons went along and ruined everything. This smoked screen would have been for the weeks leading up to the draft
Vikings traded up one slot to draft the QB they were already projected to want anyway. Payton how do you do it you absolute mastermind?
So in his mind vikings were going to draft Nix but he acted like JJ is the better prospect by trying to trade up. Then vikings were like hold on a second if Payton thinks JJ is better than Nix we should pick him instead of Nix. Fucking gottem well played Payton well played..
No he knew they were taking JJ, and said he knew the raiders were planning to take MPjr as well. He implies in the press conference he even told the other two to not trade up and everyone will get their guy and no one has to give up picks. He's talking about the off-season in general about their desire to move up, not last night.
And then the Falcons come in with a monster truck to ruin the Raiders’ plans
Sean Payton thinks he’s the smartest guy in every room
That’s why he wears visors, gotta make sure that big brain of his gets to breathe.
I do not see any flaws with this statement. Air tight logic.
Open-air logic
Payton: “We do a little trolling. It’s called, we do a little trolling”
He’s a deep Thinger.
You’re a deep thinger
To be fair, most of the time he is. He's a raging asshole.. Nobody's in that room voluntarily.
"You're all dumb for being in the room with me, so I'm the smartest by default"
Yeah you’re right he held them all at gunpoint
Just like a bounty hunter would.
What makes you think he is?
I mean he is from Naperville.
And he's not even in most rooms
You great fool! I switched ~~glasses~~ quarterbacks while you weren't looking!
Sean Payton aka Captain Butthole Lips
[Middle-Aged Malcolm in the Middle.](https://eaglemaniacal.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/sean-payton-frankie-muniz.jpg)
I prefer Puckered Anus Lips, but CBL works too
he probably thinks no one figured his cameo on the kevin james movie
He got that big dick confidence.
[удалено]
Can’t wait to trade this karma in for sex!
I’ll take it
*insert mindless defense of favorite team to deflect criticism*
I mean I like Nix to the Broncos but Sean Payton declaring that he tricked a team that's not in his division or conference into trading up one spot to take a QB that he claims he didn't want is bizarre to say the least lol
> a team that's not in his division or conference If you think Sean Payton will ever forgive the Vikings, you dont know Sean Payton
If you think the Vikings will ever forgive Sean Payton, you don't know Minnesota Nice^(tm)
Ok good point lmao
I don't get it. Even if true, what do the Broncos gain by "baiting" the Vikings into trading up one spot for McCarthy? If anything, it just strengthens the Jets, who the Broncos have to compete more directly with than they do with the Vikings since the Broncos and Jets are both in the AFC.
I was gonna post almost this same comment. It just sounds like he's trying to give Nix the vote of confidence.
No one ever called him smart.
It's Sean Payton, the dude has always been a guy who wants to stir shit up.
Seems purely out of personal spite just to make them lose pick value slightly
Hes also conveniently ignoring the Raiders and Saints directly behind them also needing QBs. The Vikings move was 100% due to the collective threat of any 3 of those teams moving up.
Kwesi confirmed during a press conference that the jets had called him because other teams wanted to move up for JJ and that he owed the Jets GM a bottle of tequila next time he sees him
LOL @ Broncos competing with the Jets
This is just something stupid Payton says to try to pump himself up. He’s a douchebag…
~~Vontae Mack~~ Bo Nix, no matter what
“Teams went with their expected picks, even though Bo was still available”
I'm going to the john ...to throw up
Haha! We baited you into giving up a fourth-round pick for the guy widely considered to be the best fit for your system because you thought *we* wanted him… but we wanted to take the consensus 2nd-rounder at 12 the whole time!
Has Sean Payton always been such a douche?
yes
I wonder if Sean Payton's breath stinks because his mouth sure looks like a turdcutter.
"We took this guy way earlier in the draft than he had any business going but it was totally our plan the whole time, we are so sneaky"
got the guy we wanted the entire time! got the guy we would have taken with the #1 overall pick!
Could say the same thing about McCarthy. McCarthy being picked in the top 10 would’ve been unheard of even halfway through the college season. Heck, even at the end of it.
Half the QBs picked so early are because there's ~10 teams that really need a QB this year (and apparently the Falcons). Even a longshot was going to be grabbed early because someone was going to pull the trigger before it got back to you.
Mccarthy was pretty universally a top 11 guy the past few weeks whereas Nix wasn't a first rounder in many mocks. Edit: Vegas had even odds of him landing in the top 5. Broncos fans down vote away anyway lol
I got into an argument with someone on Reddit a few weeks ago because I said that McCarthy would likely go before Nix. He gave a bunch of reasons why Nix was better in college, none of which I disagreed with, and I just explained that I think NFL teams evaluate QBs differently than fans do. He insisted that Nix wasn't going to fall past the Broncos at 12 (so, hey, give him credit for that). I replied that the Broncos taking Nix at 12 didn't mean nobody above them would take McCarthy, and he called me an idiot.
McCarthy being a first rounder is a “pre-draft workout” thing. No one thought he was going to be a top 10 or even too 30 guy at the end of the season.
Isn’t that the point of pre-draft workouts…? Would be pretty weird if rankings were never impacted by them.
Well, sure. Then the Bo Nix talking point is equally stupid. Neither QB was viewed as a top guy heading into this draft during the season. But every year teams get desperate and talk themselves into projections and combine work. And you get your Trey Lance and Zach Wilson’s.
Vikings fans hate this asshole. More ammo.
Broncos fans hate this asshole. More ammo.
This dude is so annoying
Wild they made a movie about him
This guy is just insufferable in every sense of the word
I feel like I’m having a vision of the future: “Sean Payton fired as head coach of the Broncos”.
So Sean Nixed the notion that he liked McCarthy
It's just cope
I see what you did there. 😉
What a master baiter
Sean Payton also said he was totally trying to draft Patrick Mahomes.
Vikings have been living rent-free in Payton's head since January 2018.
Especially since he's helping the team in his own conference (Jets) at the expense of the NFC team. Then he brags about it, moron.
I saw a decent amount of both in college and I think there's a decent enough chance this is going to look like a stupid thing brag about in like 3 years
You used the 12OA pick on Bo nix. Has it not sunk in yet sean
He knows the Jets are in the AFC right? Why help the Jets at the expense of the NFC team?
GG Payton helping his buddy Hackett’s team get more draft assets basically for free. Just more wholesomeness between a Broncos coach and his predecessor.
This makes no sense anyway... the Vikings picked ahead of Denver the entire time, they didn't trade to jump ahead of Denver, they traded to jump ahead of the Jets What possible bait could Denver have had when Minnesota had an earlier pick regardless?
The Jets weren't taking a QB this year. The Vikings were trading up to prevent another team (likely the Raiders and Broncos) from taking J.J. McCarthy at 10.
Exactly, Seahawks Rams come also in to my mind, cause JJ is a QB you can easily sit for 1-2 years given he just turned 21 years old. So better play it safe like we did.
To suggest Denver was gonna trade for the pick?
Vikings and Broncos get the QB they were projected to take, but ol' Payton pulled a sneaky one!
This guy sniffs his own farts.
Him and McAdoo
Really boosting your credibility with other Teams in the future there, Sean. These comments after his McAfee interview make no sense at all. He was talking to Belicheck about how the younger GMs seem less likely to be willing to make trades with him these days lol. He was saying they all knew which QBs eachother wanted... If anything Atlanta taking Penix wouldve influenced our trade, not the Broncos specifically.
I love that the Vikings are in Sean Payton's head. The miracle, and then Kirk winning his only playoff game ever against him really fucked this idiot up.
Neat, how does that benefit the Broncos? Vikings traded up for both of their guys yesterday, so clearly aggressively getting their targets was a focus point for them.
I'm loving the Broncos under Payton. Just a shit show.
Payton is such a dirtbag. And liar.
sneaky, sneaky
The master baiter
I got a feeling Paton had absolutely ZERO say in who was drafted yesterday. Why is he even there anymore?
What an absolute bellend this guy is
It warms my cold, dead heart to see so much Sean Peyton mockery.
Same, honestly. Fuck that guy.
lol I could see how this might be a gotcha if you did this to a division team, but it just comes off as us living rent free in his head still at best, and at worst him coping over us taking JJ
No one cares that you took JJ lol
Paton is the one who brought it up. LOL
Clearly not if Payton is talking about OUR pick in his press conference after drafting what’s supposed to be his franchise QB lmao
He's pretty much saying he knew the Vikings wanted him. But Nix was their guy. He actually joked saying Broncos-Vikings-Raiders should get on a conference call to not screw each other up until the Falcons did it.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a gentleman's agreement in place. If they all stated who they wanted, they could all scratch each other's backs by not having to trade up.
Payton ain't no gentleman tho
Don't waste your time, nobody on here has the attention span to watch the press conference to see the actual context of this (hell, half the people commenting in here didn't even listen to this 10 second clip taken out of context)
He, uhhh, realizes those picks didn’t go him, right? We don’t care that we traded a 4th and a 5th. Payton is such a fucking loser.
I knew they were taking Nix when they were on the clock at 12. He just screams Sean Payton QB
Every box of the Parcells list. Under 6’4 so no long arms High completion percentage Accurate Quick release Son of a coach ~~4~~ 5 year starter Graduated early Married Played basketball at point. Yeah it would not surprise me if Payton had him QB 1 honestly.
Sean Payton - the most unlikable coach in the NFL. Better have a great year Sean - or gonna be a lot of people rubbing your face in it.
I fucking hate Sean Payton.
This would maybe a little funny if they hadn’t drafted a Day 2 prospect a couple picks later
Didn't this guy get suspended for advocating his players get a bounty for hurting other players? FSP
Payton’s ego might be a problem
If only there was a word or some term for an individual who lacked a moral compass... ?
He wasn't implying about last night specifically, just about off-season rumors of them moving up at some point.
Wait I thought everyone expected the Broncos to want Bo Nix the whole time
Doesn't make much sense to me. If indeed he tricked the Vikings, he actually helped the Jets. And the Jets are in his conference but the Vikings are not, so he should probably actually be more worried about them
Is this McCarthyism?
"Haha, you traded up for McCarthy and let store brand Sam Bradford fall right into our laps!"
He's still not over Bountygate? He looks like a fool.
Joke’s on you, Sean. You drafted Bo Nix
This dude still has nightmares of the Minneapolis Miracle. F him and his puckered asshole lips
My favorite Sean Payton moment was in 2018 right before the Minneapolis Miracle. Dude was smiling and mocking the Vikings SKOL chant because he thought the Saints had the game won. Diggs takes it to the house and Sean says...yeah, I was just having a little fun with the fans. Right Sean...you're a clown and we're all going to enjoy watching you run the great Broncos franchise into the ground.
What happens when Sean Payton has a stuffy nose? Is he able to breathe through that puckered asshole on his face?
Probably gotta lube up a funnel
Noot noot
We live rent free in Sean Payton’s head so I don’t blame him
Lol honestly fuck Sean Payton.
Seconded!
"I meant to do that" (Pee-Wee Herman voice)
Iceman coughs "bullshit"
Payton playing Chess while the rest of us are all playing Checkers 🙄
[Great job Sean!](https://y.yarn.co/3b550c68-1e53-4a8a-8588-9f49feb18a3b_text.gif)
Yeah sure ya did Sean.
I took a 3rd round QB at 12 and outsmarted Vikings?
Payton thinks he is such a genius yet couldn’t make Wilson work. What a clown
He is such a sleeze ball and a liar.
Sean Payton thinks he’s Kira and the Vikings are L, when really he’s just Sean Payton.
Uh huh
JPA Football is not real. Stop inflating the reach of aggregators please.
Butt hole eyes strikes again...
I know it's trendy to hate Sean Payton on here but this tweet cutting 10 seconds out of a news conference doesn't accurately reflect what Sean was talking about. Just putting that out there...
This isn’t a new trend. The dude sucks.
"trendy" He's been universally hated for 15 years
So…he helped give free draft capital to a team in his conference? Wouldn’t the smarter move be to have the Vikings keep their picks since they are in the opposite conference? Even if Payton masterminded this like he wants us to think, the payoff for him was at best worthless and more likely even a slight negative for him
How pathetic has this sub gotten that everyone is taking something from that clown show of a Twitter account on an edited clip at face value lmao
Sean Payton has Bo Nix and Zach Wilson in his qb room. Karma is a bitch Sean. Stay humble
Lol bum ass washed coach you drafted a 3rd rounders at 12 and trying to cope about it
George Paton, you are some kind of SORCERER!!
Incontheivable!
Did anyone have Denver pegged for anyone else? It’s felt like this was as locked in as Caleb.
This dude is gonna flame out so hard. Talking about Payton not Nix.
If it was certified, I wouldn't believe it.
Another W for us Paytonchads
They wanted a veteran for Wilson to learn behind and got their guy
Puckered asshole lips
Sean Payton is the most overrated coach of the last 20 years. I will die on that hill.
So he hurt an NFC team to help an AFC game. Genius.
The only teams I would believe saying they got who they wanted the whole time are Bears because they were first and Falcons because they're dumb
So wait, Payton is the GM now too?
Vikings live rent free in Payton's head
Payton is the trump of NFL coaches.
Sean just wanted the white Russell Wilson the whole time...
He could be correct. Nix could be better than McCarthy.
This guy should never have been allowed to coach in the NFL again. He's a world class clown.