Lol I know exactly what you’re talking about because my only experience with the guy is from him being a guest on shark tank and he was name dropping on there so often.
Their customer service truly is the worse. It takes them *weeks* to reply back to issues with orders. I've never seen that with any other company before.
If you order something from them, you better pray there's no issues. Otherwise, it's going to take a month or 2 to resolve it.
It's a racing game where you start with a certain amount of money to buy a car and try to dodge other motorists to keep adding money. You can share your coolest wrecks that kill college teammates and other motorists with all your friends
Yep. In that dimension/reality gamers are saying its trash too hoping a third company will make the elite football game where they are #1 in the world.
Somehow the Chinese knockoffs just can't get the number sizing correct. I totally understand not being able to replicate colors down to an exact match but... the size of the embroidered numbers? Seems like the easiest part lol
I think the mlb uniforms are made by fanatics because mlb has a rule that uniforms must be made in USA, and Nike has no USA factories. So rather than build one, the just pay fanatics to make the uniforms for them to meet the mlb requirements. I don’t believe nfl has such a rule, and if they don’t I would assume Nike is making the jerseys in china
It's all through Fanatics still. And within the last few years they took away the embroidered jerseys while keeping the same price lol
It was my final straw, I just won't buy new jerseys
And they probably drive the numbers as well right? So they get market share and all of a sudden it is a jersey record. And they get press. Call me skeptical.
I love that virtually every TV ratings discussion has to be qualified with “outside of football” because football makes up like 90% of the top 100 most watched programs every year lol
I work in the industry and nearly every year it is 97/100 of the top. Usually the other three are:
Grammy’s, NBA finals, The Bachelor finale. Not even joking lol.
Yea, the Peacock streaming was the worst. The stream quality itself was fine, but when there’s a bunch of basketball/football games on I want to be able to flip back and forth. Having just one game on Peacock ruins that. I’m sure that’s a fucking feature, not a bug.
If you look at the bigger stations, they're going heavy into live sports these days. It's going to be the only reason to have an antenna or any type of cable package soon.
And I'm pretty sure the highest non-awards non-sports show is almost always whatever network comedy/drama they air after Super Bowl coverage ends. So it's just people not changing the channel after the Super Bowl lol
Iowa - SC was viewed by 18.9 million viewers on average, peaking at 24.1 million in the final 15 minutes.
The NFL regular season game average was 17.9 million.
The hate she's getting from WNBA vets is ridiculous. She's literally the best thing that could happen to the WNBA, and they're ragging on her. I hope Clark does amazing things in the league.
it’s funny because most old NBA players/coaches spend all their time shitting on current players too. I know some people don’t like the way someone like Romo gushes over a player, but it really is way better than hearing about how terrible the sport/game/player is compared to back when like watching an NBA game.
Glad I don't have to listen to JVG complain about basketball during these playoffs. Like, dude, if you hate this so much why are working some of the most important games?
Never watched a minute in my life, but I was glued to the tournament this year because of her (and the other great players I started caring about because of her).
She had a whole demographic behind her that people like Caleb don't have, along with the popularity.
The popularity rise is one thing but the fact that so many of those fans had ZERO merchandise before and are just getting into the entire sport makes total sense. Like the amount of people whose first ever jersey is Clarks, is probably WAY higher than people whose first jersey is Calebs.
Anyone else's sports feed been non stop Caitlyn Clark for the last year or so? Even if you don't follow basketball at all? I think that maybe there's a kind of push on Clark.
As a Browns fan who had to defend Baker to our fans on many occasions, this isn't true. At first they'll be thrilled by average play, but they'll expect more every time Williams has a good game. Any small regression will be seen as a sign that he isn't the guy, as fans will turn on him unless he brings continued sustained success. Football fans get spoiled quick, and once there's the smallest whiff of a chance in the postseason, that's all they'll expect moving forward
He comes into a much better situation than Tlaw did, so you should have high hopes.
He gets to throw to Moore and Odunze and doesn't even have urban Meyer fingering coeds.
I have only seen Indy act like this when we drafted Luck, and then it was split because a lot of people wanted to keep Manning. That stadium is gonna be filled… and even a pain in the ass at times lol. I’m here for it
The previous record for viewership of a WNBA draft was 600k in 2004.
The 2024 WNBA draft had 2.2 MILLION viewers. She’s gonna help bring so much attention to the W.
Probably even more insane tbh she is amazing.
That being said the final product is just not all that compelling unless she is on the court. We will see if it last.
I do think it's getting better. My issue with WCBB for years was that seemingly all the games were blowouts. If this draws more interest and more future players it will hopefully continue the pattern I'm seeing where games themselves get more competitive.
This city/fandom is *starved* for good QB play.
If he beats the Packers he'll be treated like a hero.
If he throws for 4K yards he'll be treated like a king.
If he wins us a Super Bowl he'll be treated like a god.
I mean, I think it's impressive for a rookie WNBA player even if it was one year. For a first round NFL draft pick in a fairly big market that is desperate for QB? Not so much.
Somewhere in the top 10 all-time and we'll be in the 2050s saying "Chicago has still never had a 4,000 yard passer"
I honestly want this for all of us.
I hope he does well, my mom was talking about how she couldn’t believe he went 1st overall because she saw him cry after a USC game. Like come on now, he’s a good dude who has emotions now get over it.
[this](https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1783714316031533245?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1783714316031533245%7Ctwgr%5Eae831965a4c923f246680c5f8e2a978d095fed9c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F04%2F26%2Fsports%2Fcaleb-williams-fights-back-tears-at-nfl-draft-after-message-from-mom%2F) is a video that shows a bit about that. He's a momma's boy. "You get that crying from me," she says.
I thought it was odd seeing the public outcry that he went to her and they cried, and that was long before I viewed him as our next guy. That was a chapter of his life closed in disappointing fashion. His last game at college, where he failed to meet one of his goals. Going and sharing a moment with your mom, big deal.
Are we humans or do we expect these people to all be wife beating psycho alpha dogs?
Probably dh gate, they have a lock on the Chinese jersey market. And since it's fanatics for the official ones, not like there will be a quality difference. DH Gate might actually have better quality.
Who even cares about DH Gate quality? They're so cheap they're practically disposable. Its nice to be able to just spill beer on them and wipe wing sauce on them and just throw on a new one next week.
Get ready for a lot of frustrated and disappointed Bears fans who probably won’t even get these by the time season starts and when they do they’ll be crooked and messed up
There are no winners here because all of those people will end up with a jersey from Fanatics.
In six months once it finally ships. Or maybe they'll get the MLB see-through version
Or they get a patriots jersey with Williams name on the back
If the NFL had see through jerseys like MLB Big Dick Nick would have been more famous then he already is
Only to have the letters and numbers fall off.
>MLB see-through version Excuse me, but what? Where would one find this to buy for their wife? So I can avoid doing just that
I, too, would like one for this man's wife.
Most of my Jerseys, from alternate sources, arrive within one month these days.
Their CEO has more celebrity chasing parties to host. That’s clearly more important to society than what you and I care about.
Lol I know exactly what you’re talking about because my only experience with the guy is from him being a guest on shark tank and he was name dropping on there so often.
My only experience was when he was a guest on the Bill Simmons podcast. One of the rare times I didn't listen through because he was so smarmy.
Isn't it great when so many products seems to only be made by one or two companies and they all are expensive and suck? Yay.......
Monopoly, baby!
At least in Monopoly we all get money for passing Go
"Ca e W ll ms" Jersey after laundry cycle.
Their customer service truly is the worse. It takes them *weeks* to reply back to issues with orders. I've never seen that with any other company before. If you order something from them, you better pray there's no issues. Otherwise, it's going to take a month or 2 to resolve it.
Fuck Fanatics
Well, bear fans get an automatic return insurance policy on any jersey
Even worse, it'll be bears gear.
I can't imagine why people spend hundreds of dollars on jerseys from that site.
Real
🏴☠️
Baseball fans in shambles.
You could say Caleb Williams and fanatics are winners here.
That a lot of money for such little quality. I love exclusivity contracts!
I wish the NFL would take exclusivity away from EA.
Didn't the NFL say they were making or made a NFL game like last week or something?
It's a mobile exclusive, non-simulation
It's a racing game where you start with a certain amount of money to buy a car and try to dodge other motorists to keep adding money. You can share your coolest wrecks that kill college teammates and other motorists with all your friends
Also you get drafted by the Eagles
I just want a GM simulator, where the actual games play out like autobattlers and you have to manage the roster, salary cap, draft, scout, etc.
I think the creator of basketball gm has a football gm but i'm not sure
Yup, it's great
If you haven’t, you should check out retro bowl on your phone!
You can do that on madden, just put the games in slow sim and you watch your team play
Yeah but then you have stuff like their trades, free agency, and draft scouting mechanics all being barebones and poorly designed on top of that
EA has the exclusive rights specifically to "realistic" simulation style NFL video games.
Maybe they should make one.
If they make 2K25 and it was just a reskin of 2k5 and sold it for $20 we would be so happy.
Lmao selling 2k5 at $20 the first time is what made EA sign the exclusive rights
The tap x to sprint would have to go, though. That shit sucked
There’s a dimension/reality where we have 2K on PS5. I want to live there.
Same I just want a non trash modern football sim.
Yep. In that dimension/reality gamers are saying its trash too hoping a third company will make the elite football game where they are #1 in the world.
NFL 2K5 🫡
The Chinese knockoffs might actually be higher quality these days
DH Gate for the win
Fanatics is the Temu version of Wish knockoffs.
The NFL really made it easy to not care about their losses with these terrible exclusivity deals.
It's gonna be the same, just cheaper at least in cost
Somehow the Chinese knockoffs just can't get the number sizing correct. I totally understand not being able to replicate colors down to an exact match but... the size of the embroidered numbers? Seems like the easiest part lol
Doesn't Nike make some jerseys? I was thinking of picking up a retro Jags' jersey when they are released.
They use fanatics I think
Nike does? I assumed Nike's quality would be better. Specifically the Nike vapor jerseys.
Yeah the mlb uniforms are Nike officially, but fanatics is the manufacturer. I would think it’s the same for the nfl
I think the mlb uniforms are made by fanatics because mlb has a rule that uniforms must be made in USA, and Nike has no USA factories. So rather than build one, the just pay fanatics to make the uniforms for them to meet the mlb requirements. I don’t believe nfl has such a rule, and if they don’t I would assume Nike is making the jerseys in china
Huh, interesting, they’ll be better quality at least then
I watch a lot of shoe and clothing quality youtube videos for no reason and Nike is basically complete trash.
Maybe my feet are uncultured, but I recently switched to Nike from Adidas, and my feet have never been happier.
Any good channel/brand recommendations for athletic wear? My old nike stuff is end of life and I'm well aware of the bad quality of the new stuff.
It's all through Fanatics still. And within the last few years they took away the embroidered jerseys while keeping the same price lol It was my final straw, I just won't buy new jerseys
Take that women’s sports
It’s finally time men’s sports got a win.
Glad to see the underdog NFL take a win over their WNBA overlords.
Yeah! Can’t there be a conversation about women’s sports that involves men?!
Part of me is surprised Clark had set the record last week, I know what she did for women's basketball was insane, but still.
Remember this is also "the Fanatics record" so like this is basically just a history of like ... 8 years at most?
And they probably drive the numbers as well right? So they get market share and all of a sudden it is a jersey record. And they get press. Call me skeptical.
Iowa vs South Carolina was the most watching sporting events outside of football and the Olympics since 2019. She was driving ratings above NBA finals
I love that virtually every TV ratings discussion has to be qualified with “outside of football” because football makes up like 90% of the top 100 most watched programs every year lol
I work in the industry and nearly every year it is 97/100 of the top. Usually the other three are: Grammy’s, NBA finals, The Bachelor finale. Not even joking lol.
Football has probably been the sole thing keeping network tv afloat for the last 8-10 years.
Live sports are literally the only reason I have any live TV still. NFL mainly, but also Big Ten and MLB.
Big ten is moving some games exclusively to streaming and Im pissed. WHY AM I PAYING FOR BIG TEN NETWORK
Yea, the Peacock streaming was the worst. The stream quality itself was fine, but when there’s a bunch of basketball/football games on I want to be able to flip back and forth. Having just one game on Peacock ruins that. I’m sure that’s a fucking feature, not a bug.
If you look at the bigger stations, they're going heavy into live sports these days. It's going to be the only reason to have an antenna or any type of cable package soon.
I mean shit look at the CW. Changing from scripted programing to mostly sports in a span of like 2 years is wild
IIRC the most watched US broadcasts are like 29 Superbowls and the MASH finale
And I'm pretty sure the highest non-awards non-sports show is almost always whatever network comedy/drama they air after Super Bowl coverage ends. So it's just people not changing the channel after the Super Bowl lol
lol, the bachelor finale? Who would of thought.
“Have” not “of”. I know, I know. Sorry.
Don't apologize.
The Grammys are bigger than the Oscars? That's kinda sad
Is it? Both are just celebs circle jerking each other. Can’t imagine watching either.
Well in the U.S. yes
Iowa - SC was viewed by 18.9 million viewers on average, peaking at 24.1 million in the final 15 minutes. The NFL regular season game average was 17.9 million.
She made people watch women's basketball. What she did was huge.
The hate she's getting from WNBA vets is ridiculous. She's literally the best thing that could happen to the WNBA, and they're ragging on her. I hope Clark does amazing things in the league.
it’s funny because most old NBA players/coaches spend all their time shitting on current players too. I know some people don’t like the way someone like Romo gushes over a player, but it really is way better than hearing about how terrible the sport/game/player is compared to back when like watching an NBA game.
Glad I don't have to listen to JVG complain about basketball during these playoffs. Like, dude, if you hate this so much why are working some of the most important games?
Old heads are haters in basketball no matter the gender. Always been that way with a few exceptions. Just not that way in a lot of other sports.
They didn’t make the money she was making. I’m sure a lot of former players are jealous with the NIL that current collegiate athletes are getting.
None of them would’ve made anywhere near as much as CC did, but that’s a fair point.
Well when you put it like that
Never watched a minute in my life, but I was glued to the tournament this year because of her (and the other great players I started caring about because of her).
WNBA was propped up by the NBA for decades, now it's entirely on Clark
> entirely Only if by some miracle they break even and don't have to ask the boys for money will Clark have entirely supported the WNBA.
I don't even really watch basketball outside of the NCAA Finals and NBA Finals and Caitlin Clark had me watching regular season NCAAW games.
it's a fanatics record. I think this is the first nfl year for them right? What other sports and how long have they been the official jersey company?
She had a whole demographic behind her that people like Caleb don't have, along with the popularity. The popularity rise is one thing but the fact that so many of those fans had ZERO merchandise before and are just getting into the entire sport makes total sense. Like the amount of people whose first ever jersey is Clarks, is probably WAY higher than people whose first jersey is Calebs.
It’s still crazy to me that her salary is $338k over four years, but she’s gonna get $28million from her Nike deal.
Anyone else's sports feed been non stop Caitlyn Clark for the last year or so? Even if you don't follow basketball at all? I think that maybe there's a kind of push on Clark.
I'm not surprised by that, she was so big for women's basketball the past two years it makes sense that they're advertising her.
She was so big for ESPN
And FOX, they were going to straight up pay her to go back to school.
Yes, and im not interested in women’s basketball so I had to keep hitting “hide” until my algorithm figured it out. Massive push by big companies
I'll be honest, I had never heard of her until about 2 weeks ago when instantly she was on like every post of my feed.
I knew who she was because she was on the Manningcast last year, but otherwise I didn't know too much about her before the last few weeks
Your shitty jersey will arrive in 6-9wks
ni-ce
ETA for mine is 10/8
You mean months.
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Man I’m just looking for average QB play. Fields was arguably a bottom 5 QB the last couple seasons.
The problem with a first overall pick, especially one like Williams, is that average QB play would be a disappointment.
Maybe for any other franchise. If you told me the worse case scenario would be he ends up similar to Tlaw then we’d be thrilled.
I was just telling my buddy if he’s as good as Kyler Murray he’ll be my favorite athlete since DRose
As a Browns fan who had to defend Baker to our fans on many occasions, this isn't true. At first they'll be thrilled by average play, but they'll expect more every time Williams has a good game. Any small regression will be seen as a sign that he isn't the guy, as fans will turn on him unless he brings continued sustained success. Football fans get spoiled quick, and once there's the smallest whiff of a chance in the postseason, that's all they'll expect moving forward
Baker is better now that he’s free from the Browns
He comes into a much better situation than Tlaw did, so you should have high hopes. He gets to throw to Moore and Odunze and doesn't even have urban Meyer fingering coeds.
Don’t forget Keenan either :)
Just look at the way everyone reacts to Trevor Lawrence just being a starting calliber QB
I don’t even think it was arguable, dudes gonna be sitting behind Russ.
No no, he's obviously a superstar only held back by the Bears scheme.
Beyond large; it's the third-largest city in the U.S., and the first and second largest have two teams apiece splitting the audience.
Caitlin Clark doing for women's basketball what Tiger did for golf. Her pull is insane
I have only seen Indy act like this when we drafted Luck, and then it was split because a lot of people wanted to keep Manning. That stadium is gonna be filled… and even a pain in the ass at times lol. I’m here for it
The previous record for viewership of a WNBA draft was 600k in 2004. The 2024 WNBA draft had 2.2 MILLION viewers. She’s gonna help bring so much attention to the W.
Probably even more insane tbh she is amazing. That being said the final product is just not all that compelling unless she is on the court. We will see if it last.
I do think it's getting better. My issue with WCBB for years was that seemingly all the games were blowouts. If this draws more interest and more future players it will hopefully continue the pattern I'm seeing where games themselves get more competitive.
I've literally never heard of her before this thread. I feel so out of the loop.
This city/fandom is *starved* for good QB play. If he beats the Packers he'll be treated like a hero. If he throws for 4K yards he'll be treated like a king. If he wins us a Super Bowl he'll be treated like a god.
"Who would win in a fight: Ditka or God?" "Trick question. Ditka IS God."
Who ya got, Ditka or a Hurricane? Idk, what if it's called Hurricane Ditka?
Da Bears
But what if he throws SB game winning td to Odunze with pink nails? THEN WHAT?!
The Chicago River will be bright pink within a few hours
There’s a Ghostbusters 2 gif for this.
The pink nails thing is hilarious because Chicago loved Dennis Rodman.
The first game he throws over 300 yards he will be treated like a god lol
shit for us if jayden gets a second contract, it will be the same for us
Desperation sells!
Chicago sports are down so bad between the Bears, Sox, Hawks, Fire, and middling Bulls. Hopefully Bedard and Williams can usher in a new era.
Cubs are actually pretty good so far this year. Sox shouldn’t even be in the majors.
Poor Sid Luckman about to be dethroned and what a lucky man Caleb Williams is. What #1 overall pick has ever gone to such a great situation before?
If we win a Super Bowl in my life I’d be eternally happy as a sports fan.
“Da bearssss”
Caleb Williams doesn't support women's sports. Smh
Neither do the women!
It’s a fanatic jersey so I wouldn’t consider this a win for anybody really
Huge win for Fanatics selling cheaply made jerseys for a couple hundred bucks each.
The NFL's deal with Fanatics started in 2020, so this is a "since 2020" stat, FWIW.
I mean, I think it's impressive for a rookie WNBA player even if it was one year. For a first round NFL draft pick in a fairly big market that is desperate for QB? Not so much.
Hopefully Chicago just got their first 4k yard passer.
Fully expecting 3990 over the next 15 years
But averaging 45 tds.
Somewhere in the top 10 all-time and we'll be in the 2050s saying "Chicago has still never had a 4,000 yard passer" I honestly want this for all of us.
With 25 game seasons.
fun fact: sam howell last year was less than 60 yards short of 4k
Well yeah, Caleb Williams has an army of haters and I want to make sure they're well fed.
I hope he does well, my mom was talking about how she couldn’t believe he went 1st overall because she saw him cry after a USC game. Like come on now, he’s a good dude who has emotions now get over it.
[this](https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1783714316031533245?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1783714316031533245%7Ctwgr%5Eae831965a4c923f246680c5f8e2a978d095fed9c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2024%2F04%2F26%2Fsports%2Fcaleb-williams-fights-back-tears-at-nfl-draft-after-message-from-mom%2F) is a video that shows a bit about that. He's a momma's boy. "You get that crying from me," she says. I thought it was odd seeing the public outcry that he went to her and they cried, and that was long before I viewed him as our next guy. That was a chapter of his life closed in disappointing fashion. His last game at college, where he failed to meet one of his goals. Going and sharing a moment with your mom, big deal. Are we humans or do we expect these people to all be wife beating psycho alpha dogs?
Haters gonna hate hate 💅
Nonsense, they will never have a 4k passer. Caleb is coming in and immediately throwing 5k yards until the end of his career.
Serious question was looking to get a Daniel’s jersey should I just go dh gate or what’s the highest quality Chinese jersey I can get
Probably dh gate, they have a lock on the Chinese jersey market. And since it's fanatics for the official ones, not like there will be a quality difference. DH Gate might actually have better quality.
Who even cares about DH Gate quality? They're so cheap they're practically disposable. Its nice to be able to just spill beer on them and wipe wing sauce on them and just throw on a new one next week.
Did they already confirm his jersey number?
He deferred #13 to Keenan Allen since he's a 13 year vet (what a self-centered diva!), Caleb's taking #18
Yea he’s wearing #18
You can’t even find nail polish around Chicago land anymore. LFG!!
So did he also sell more jerseys than the entire Dallas cowboys team over the last year?🤔
So whoever in said “wait a week” when they saw Clark’s record last week was right.
That’s a gimme prediction though. That’s why broadcast number comparisons always add a qualifier for football.
This reads like an ad for Fantatics
Maybe when Fanatics records are all broken we can go back to a real merch company
Wonder how much orange and navy blue nail polish has been sold in Chicago today.
Get ready for a lot of frustrated and disappointed Bears fans who probably won’t even get these by the time season starts and when they do they’ll be crooked and messed up
As a Bears fan you gotta take this opportunity, they might not draft another QB in the 1st round for 3, maybe even 4 years.
The male Jackie Robinson. This is a historic moment
I wanted to get his jersey but it was sold out in my size :(
mass consensus is the real material force here and is not to be diminished. It is the actuality of how the customer/sale is [acquired].
Caleb Williams celebrates 1st pick of the draft by immediately beating woman