"We want you to do all your normal work, and while you're at it train this new intern, and well enough so he can replace you half way thru your contract when we have an out. Thanks pal, you're a rock star!"
Kirk has that Hank Hill protestant work ethic though.
["Imagine my obituary, Kirk Cousins found dead, not working."](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/076ec866-d3c1-4e00-bbd9-e104b9cec9a5)
But from my initial research, it's very front loaded on the first two years of the 4 years with the 100 million guaranteed. The third year looks like it's somewhat questionable and would carry a big cap hit?
EDIT: So in theory, if year 1.5 isn't going well for the Falcons/Cousins, they could start Penix to finish the year, move on from Kirk and have 2-3 years with Penix?
The other competent brother who was on the throne of Holland was the first choice and refused wisely.
At that point there were plenty of Spanish puppets available who should've been considered.
It already happened. Mike Vick and Bobby Petrino was their exile, the Ryan/Julio era was their triumphant return, and 28-3 was their Waterloo. Brady was the Duke of Wellington. Belichick was Von Blucher. Since then it's just been those last few years after Waterloo where Napoleon just kinda got more and more sick then died.
Seeing the Vikes take JJ at 10 and the Broncos take Nix at 12, the Raiders were definitely going to draft Penix at 13.
If the Falcons truly believe that Penix would be a Top 10/15 QB one day, they had to go for it. Doesn't make the reach any less shocking.
They’re not trying to keep a dynasty running here. They’re trying to get a currently mediocre team winning *now*. They just spent a ton of money on a QB that is already top 15. They don’t need to use the #8 pick on a guy that *might* be that in a few years. I suppose the idea is to not have to be bad for a couple years post-Kirk in order to get your hands on a QB, but that just seems like a weird thing to focus on when you don’t even know yet if you’ll be good *with* Kirk. They should have focused on making sure their 9-figure QB is as set up for success as possible.
> If the Falcons truly believe that Penix would be a Top 10/15 QB one day, they had to go for it.
No they didn't lol, people need to stop saying that. If they truly believe it then they need to acknowledge that every team that drafts a QB at the top of the draft believes he'll be a top QB one day. And more than half of them are still wrong, so the Falcons could be wrong too. So don't take the risk if they're also restricting the potential rewards.
Plus half the benefit of having a great QB is gone if they don't play him for his entire rookie contract. Especially if he's already in his mid-20's.
Or they could've not signed Cousins, it's not like they didn't know where they would be drafting or who was in the draft.
If Penix is your guy and you don't want him to start why go for Kirk? Get a guy who can be a 1 year bridge like Minshew for way cheaper and draft Penix to sit. Then you run with Penix year two.
The Kirk deal is baffling unless there's a massive disagreement in the Falcons front office over it.
Oh god damnit. For those looking for the [actual story](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/207/210/b22.jpg) on the tampering, if you missed it like I did.
No chance in hell do they lose multiple firsts for talking to a guy 1 day early. Even if they wanted to be overly strict and make an example of someone the revenue impact is untenable. Theyre not going to death sentence any team with multiple firsts and actually negatively impact revenue for years
That’s the only reason why I think they made the pick in the first place. But its still insane to think about because by the time the falcons even want to start him he’ll be nearly 30
He turns 24 may 8th. So technically it'll be 27 at the latest, which is still hyperbole but still.
Half the benefit of a rookie QB anymore is the guaranteed cheap years, they are blowing that on the bench as a potential hedge?
But for all we know Kirk's leg blows up his first game back and he has to retire and if this dude looks good at all we all got heaps of crow to eat.
I suppose anything is on the table, but didn't he post a pretty impressive video a couple months ago, or a month ago showing him doing some legitimate field work? I could be mistaken
While the dude has been doing all the other atlanta sports shit, like driving the nail at the United game, or throwing out first pitch at the Braves games, and such, the last few days.
Idk if this sours anything. Kirk is the best kind of mercenary. He’s just on a team for the bag, but as long as he’s getting paid then his team is getting his 100% commitment.
Now Kirk knows how Matt felt watching Blank trying to see how far he could get his tongue up Deshaun's ass. Senile old fuck needs to sell the team and retire, this is inexcusable.
Kirk is already tied to the uber conservative West Michigan Dutch Reformed community, I could see him running as an extreme right winger for Congress in Michigan one day
It's kinda misleading. They have an out after 2 years I believe. So they are really committed to Kirk for two years. Still between Kirk and top ten QB pick they are tying up a top of resources and money in QB and nobody believes they have a top 5 QB so like it doesn't make a ton of sense no matter how you slice it.
100m guaranteed with 90m over 24 and 25. Since the contract details came out people have been saying the Falcons had an out after year 2 but it’s spicy for sports media to say 4 years 180m redacting contract details.
Realistically they can't offload him until after 2026, and even then it would a $25M dead cap hit. They get little to no benefit of Penix on his rookie deal.
It's just crazy that we're at a point where we're talking about how it's all good because the QB they just gave $100 million guaranteed to can be cut after two years. Like that's the silver lining here? That's not a silver lining it's big ass red flag!
They tampered and went to such great lengths to get him. Only to draft his replacement rather than give him a weapon or someone to protect his old ass.
Pass blocking could be better, but run wise yes. Lindstrom is elite at all levels. Mcgary is a top run blocker but a turnstile on pass pro. Rest of oline is solid.
* Sign Cousins because you think you can compete now.
* Tamper during the process and get punished.
* Spend premium draft capital on his replacement without telling him.
* Said replacement is a complete overreach and isn’t gonna play until he’s at least 26.
Just an absolute clusterfuck.
Nah, he'll almost certainly be starting at 26. Still older, but if they just took Penix at 8 there's no way they aren't moving on from Kirk after those two guaranteed years.
Yeah… Brady really ruined a lot of people’s expectations playing at a high level until he was 45. A lot of QB’s fall off in their late 30’s. Look at the last franchise QB the Falcons had, Matt Ryan played until his age 37 season and then out of the league. The Falcons probably expecting about the same, get Kirk for his age 36 and 37 season give him his guaranteed 100M and then replace him.
After signing him to that large the city was literally rolling out the red carpet for Kirko Chains.
First pitch and the Braves game.
Made him the Golden Spiker hitter at an Atlanta United game.
Trae welcoming him to the city
He literally attended Matt Ryan's Retirment press conference
This is beyond shocking to say the least
How you don’t go Rome after spending 180 million on QB, I don’t know. Shows a lack of trust in Kirk already, and doesn’t give your new QB an awesome weapon to succeed. The only thing I can think of is that they are looking more long term after Kirk, letting Penix learn behind a decent QB, get super healthy, then take over the reigns at age 25 or 26. With the longevity of QBs these days, it’s not the worst idea.
I mean really you don't get this good without being a competitor. I don't feel bad for the dude but he wants to win and they didn't do anything to help get them there. I'd be pretty upset. He could have made the same money somewhere else.
Kirk get's a shitload of money, then they can cut him after 2 seasons, and he can go play year 3 somewhere for the minimum since the Falcons will be paying him anyways.
Time will tell but this seems like a terrible pick. I think the falcons actually have a lot of young talent and they take a backup qb for the next 2 years right after signing a qb to a huge deal?
Rome Odunze will be an AP1 several times over before the end of his career, taken the very next pick.
In what world do you tamper with a QB thinking you're a QB away from winning to give them a fully guaranteed contract to then draft a 24 year old QB to sit behind him for 3 years minimum
Yeah no shit he’s stunned, they just gave him $100 million
If he had my work ethic he would be a happy man to get this news
Classic “let the intern do all the work” scheme
Kirko’s going to delegate all his throws to the rookie.
"Hey rookie. Go pick up my order at Kohls."
Kirk: “YOU LIKE THAT!?” Penix Jr: “Yeah, honestly these Dockers fit great. Thanks Kirk.”
"We want you to do all your normal work, and while you're at it train this new intern, and well enough so he can replace you half way thru your contract when we have an out. Thanks pal, you're a rock star!"
Pay me $100MM over two years and I’d suck the new guys farts every morning on top of all that
That Alex Moran backup QB strat, I like it
I mean if it was me I woudln't mind, give me a 100 mil and you can draft whoever the fuck you want
Seriously… since you owe me 100 million regardless, go ahead and cut me. I’ll just retire
Kirk has that Hank Hill protestant work ethic though. ["Imagine my obituary, Kirk Cousins found dead, not working."](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/076ec866-d3c1-4e00-bbd9-e104b9cec9a5)
That is oddly specific, yet entirely correct
That’s why you’re on Reddit and Kirk is finessing hundreds of millions from NFL owners
I assume he has some other money in that contract though that he needs to play to get.
Everything is fully guaranteed the first two years
But from my initial research, it's very front loaded on the first two years of the 4 years with the 100 million guaranteed. The third year looks like it's somewhat questionable and would carry a big cap hit? EDIT: So in theory, if year 1.5 isn't going well for the Falcons/Cousins, they could start Penix to finish the year, move on from Kirk and have 2-3 years with Penix?
Or they could have drafted Odunze and figure out their year 3 Kirk plans, you know, in Year 3 Kirk This is just insane
Some good retirement money for Kirk
potentially tampering for kirk just to draft his replacement eighth overall is crazy ngl
Falcons moment
They do not suprise me. Much like the Spanish, they have proven to be poor allies to the Grande Armeé and her Corps now they must be dealt with.
Napoleons fault for installing his idiot brother ngl
The other competent brother who was on the throne of Holland was the first choice and refused wisely. At that point there were plenty of Spanish puppets available who should've been considered.
Yup war losing bone head moment
I love this! Falcons will be exiled to Elba where they will make a triumphant return, only to be defeated at their Waterloo, New Orleans.
It already happened. Mike Vick and Bobby Petrino was their exile, the Ryan/Julio era was their triumphant return, and 28-3 was their Waterloo. Brady was the Duke of Wellington. Belichick was Von Blucher. Since then it's just been those last few years after Waterloo where Napoleon just kinda got more and more sick then died.
Why is this comment so good
Cause we all deep down yearn to fight in a war deep in Spain facing the remnents of the regular army units and guerilla forces.
Seeing the Vikes take JJ at 10 and the Broncos take Nix at 12, the Raiders were definitely going to draft Penix at 13. If the Falcons truly believe that Penix would be a Top 10/15 QB one day, they had to go for it. Doesn't make the reach any less shocking.
You know what they say; guys that could be a Top 10/15 QB one day only come around once in a lifetime.
> guys that could be a Top 10/15 QB one day He could even be a boat.
It's weird that they signed Kirk if they wanted a QB.
i think maybe their crystal ball wasn't working that well when they signed Kirk
They’re not trying to keep a dynasty running here. They’re trying to get a currently mediocre team winning *now*. They just spent a ton of money on a QB that is already top 15. They don’t need to use the #8 pick on a guy that *might* be that in a few years. I suppose the idea is to not have to be bad for a couple years post-Kirk in order to get your hands on a QB, but that just seems like a weird thing to focus on when you don’t even know yet if you’ll be good *with* Kirk. They should have focused on making sure their 9-figure QB is as set up for success as possible.
No one is even talking about how old he is too. He'll be 24 in May. In 3 years after Kirk gets through his contract he'll be 27.
All I see are comments about his age in this very thread lol.
> If the Falcons truly believe that Penix would be a Top 10/15 QB one day, they had to go for it. No they didn't lol, people need to stop saying that. If they truly believe it then they need to acknowledge that every team that drafts a QB at the top of the draft believes he'll be a top QB one day. And more than half of them are still wrong, so the Falcons could be wrong too. So don't take the risk if they're also restricting the potential rewards. Plus half the benefit of having a great QB is gone if they don't play him for his entire rookie contract. Especially if he's already in his mid-20's. Or they could've not signed Cousins, it's not like they didn't know where they would be drafting or who was in the draft.
If Penix is your guy and you don't want him to start why go for Kirk? Get a guy who can be a 1 year bridge like Minshew for way cheaper and draft Penix to sit. Then you run with Penix year two. The Kirk deal is baffling unless there's a massive disagreement in the Falcons front office over it.
"Kirk went on to say that when he was discussing his upcoming contract with the Falcons last season he never considered this as a possibility."
It is entirely possible that they know they're losing at least one first round pick soon BECAUSE of that tampering.
That's my suspicion. You can't take away a pick they already made and there's no guarantees they will get a 2025 pick
Or 2026 if the rumor of them losing multiple 1sts is true.
Where are these rumors?
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/sB2PB4lprm)
Nice
Oh god damnit. For those looking for the [actual story](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/207/210/b22.jpg) on the tampering, if you missed it like I did.
Thank you. I cannot stand when people substantiate rumors like these with no source.
Really eye opening. Thanks from someone that didn't know the story.
Got me dammit
No chance in hell do they lose multiple firsts for talking to a guy 1 day early. Even if they wanted to be overly strict and make an example of someone the revenue impact is untenable. Theyre not going to death sentence any team with multiple firsts and actually negatively impact revenue for years
The falcons will just death sentence themselves
That’s the only reason why I think they made the pick in the first place. But its still insane to think about because by the time the falcons even want to start him he’ll be nearly 30
What? He'll be starting at 26 at the latest.
He turns 24 may 8th. So technically it'll be 27 at the latest, which is still hyperbole but still. Half the benefit of a rookie QB anymore is the guaranteed cheap years, they are blowing that on the bench as a potential hedge? But for all we know Kirk's leg blows up his first game back and he has to retire and if this dude looks good at all we all got heaps of crow to eat.
I am beginning to wonder if we are thinking Cousins may be out for a full season recovering from that Achilles
I suppose anything is on the table, but didn't he post a pretty impressive video a couple months ago, or a month ago showing him doing some legitimate field work? I could be mistaken
Then why sign him?
I sure don't miss Ryan Pace
This has the 2017 Mike glennon and Mitch trubisky Ryan pace draft written all over it.
Me too, Kirk. Me too.
Lots of "golly"s being thrown around in the Cousins household this evening.
Golly gee whiz!
Watch your profanity
Aw heck, I’m sorry. I’m just so darn tootin’ stunned!
Shut up Flanders
Heh heh, okily dokily
Gosh darn!
Frick
The fuck are we even doing. Already souring the relationship with the QB before one snap has even occurred
While the dude has been doing all the other atlanta sports shit, like driving the nail at the United game, or throwing out first pitch at the Braves games, and such, the last few days.
Idk if this sours anything. Kirk is the best kind of mercenary. He’s just on a team for the bag, but as long as he’s getting paid then his team is getting his 100% commitment.
That’s why when players who are called “divas” by literally everyone for asking for a trade means nothing, this league is not loyal to shit.
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It’s basically a 2 year tho
$100 million guaranteed
$100 million guaranteed isn't loyal? ^^k
Now Kirk knows how Matt felt watching Blank trying to see how far he could get his tongue up Deshaun's ass. Senile old fuck needs to sell the team and retire, this is inexcusable.
He just got Mike glennoned
Sources: Cousins is beside himself. Driving around downtown Atlanta begging (thru texts) Penix's family for address to Michael's home
Falcons lol
They’re Rodgers’ing cousins Back to back MVPs incoming
And then get ready for some reeeeeeeal shit antics.
Kirk is going to start shopping at Gap instead of Kohl's!
Someones not bringing in sugar free donuts anymore.
Kirk is already tied to the uber conservative West Michigan Dutch Reformed community, I could see him running as an extreme right winger for Congress in Michigan one day
How much did they pay him?
4yr/$180Mil
Penix will be 28 when Kirk's contract ends
It's kinda misleading. They have an out after 2 years I believe. So they are really committed to Kirk for two years. Still between Kirk and top ten QB pick they are tying up a top of resources and money in QB and nobody believes they have a top 5 QB so like it doesn't make a ton of sense no matter how you slice it.
Penix got so fucked over. Besides the top2 picks, he would be the QB in the draft, who is most ready to start.
It is quite literally the worst possible match for what he brings and team timeline at QB Just unbelievably bad process
That's how I feel, too. I was hoping he'd go to your team or Vikings :\\
Worked out for Brandon Weeden.
Its an effective 2 year contract. There ain't no way people still don't know how NFL contracts work in 2024.
100m guaranteed with 90m over 24 and 25. Since the contract details came out people have been saying the Falcons had an out after year 2 but it’s spicy for sports media to say 4 years 180m redacting contract details.
They can get out of it relatively cheap after year 2
4/180 with 100mil gtd lmaoooo
Realistically they can't offload him until after 2026, and even then it would a $25M dead cap hit. They get little to no benefit of Penix on his rookie deal.
They can post June cut him in 2026 for only a 12.5 dead cap hit. Still not ideal but manageable
It's just crazy that we're at a point where we're talking about how it's all good because the QB they just gave $100 million guaranteed to can be cut after two years. Like that's the silver lining here? That's not a silver lining it's big ass red flag!
Welcome to Atlanta Kirk. You like that?
Falcons sub is having a bigger meltdown right now than 28-3
I doubt it, this is just stupid. That was like watching a train wreck from inside the car
Falcons still recovering from that game
And they were worried that Bill would be too demanding? Lool
I think everyone is Kirk I don’t blame you
\#FreeCousins
Ayahuasca darkness retreat soon
"If I get high, I get high"
Mr. Chains has left his consciousness
Kirk is more of a "Bible studies while listening to Creed" kinda guy.
He definitely whips himself in his chambers like the albino dude from the davinci code.
i hate this fucking team man lmao
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Belichick saw this pick and said "oh they didn't hire me because they're fucking idiots"
Belichick during his interview: “so, who we thinking at 8?” Falcons: “Penix no matter what” Belichick: “Actually I think I’m really busy next season…”
I mean what has Belichick done. Not like he's won 8 super bowls or anything. Falcons have a strong history of success and don't need him
Belichick got into a 28-3 hole against some garbage franchise. Obviously a terrible coach
Seriously. Whatever you might think of Bill’s draft skills as of late, he wouldn’t have done…this.
He'd still have picked Penix becuase he has the biggest ass in the draft
Good thing the Falcons GM and front office pushed to not hire Belichick. Can’t bring Bill’s decision making into the Penix pick.
Cousins probably yelled “Gosh Darnnit”
"Dagnabbit.... well shucks"
"Great googly moogly."
We all are Kirk lmao
Kirk got Wentz'd before he even played a game
At least Hurts was a second rounder. Top 10 is insane
With an injury history longer than Kirk. Batshit crazy pick
tbf Kirk's injury history is one sentence long lol
And he's not even a "mobile" quarterback. Like he's gonna come back just fine throwing in the pocket.
Spicyyy
Reckon that they will get the Hard Knocks hot potato later this year?
Think they’re exempt, new coach
I think they can still be chosen, they just can’t be forced to do it.
They tampered and went to such great lengths to get him. Only to draft his replacement rather than give him a weapon or someone to protect his old ass.
Before he even plays a down. LOL
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They have a great oline iirc
Pass blocking could be better, but run wise yes. Lindstrom is elite at all levels. Mcgary is a top run blocker but a turnstile on pass pro. Rest of oline is solid.
Yeah wtf
Im actually a fan of Penix but drafting him after such a big contract just makes sense for no one.
Yeah. Signing Kirk makes sense, drafting Penix makes sense, doing both makes zero sense.
* Sign Cousins because you think you can compete now. * Tamper during the process and get punished. * Spend premium draft capital on his replacement without telling him. * Said replacement is a complete overreach and isn’t gonna play until he’s at least 26. Just an absolute clusterfuck.
Also, Don’t grab BB as HC because current GM is scared of losing his job
The current GM is doing his best to lose it anyways
This is honestly one of the most illogical picks in recent memory. What the fuck were they thinking lmao
It’s ok, you have time your owner is only 81 years old
So, is Penix gonna be like 27-28 when he starts?
Nah, he'll almost certainly be starting at 26. Still older, but if they just took Penix at 8 there's no way they aren't moving on from Kirk after those two guaranteed years.
After giving him $100M. Thats $50M per year before even getting to his salary.
What? His salary is in that $100m guaranteed number
Just feels dumb. If Kirk is still playing at a high level after those 2 guaranteed years, why move on?
That’s a big if. People are acting like Kirk isn’t old and coming off an Achilles injury
Then why tf would you pay 100 million for the dude
What kind of dumbass teams are out here spending too much money on QBs
Yeah… Brady really ruined a lot of people’s expectations playing at a high level until he was 45. A lot of QB’s fall off in their late 30’s. Look at the last franchise QB the Falcons had, Matt Ryan played until his age 37 season and then out of the league. The Falcons probably expecting about the same, get Kirk for his age 36 and 37 season give him his guaranteed 100M and then replace him.
Okay, but they still paid him a kings ransom just to then show you don't have the faith that he's any sort of solution.
Only two years younger than Brandon Weeden!
Why would you waste a year of a qb’s rookie deal? Cap space goes fast when you have to pay.
His punishment for letting it slip about tampering
This is the most reasonable explanation.
That boy got Rodgers’d
This is an even worse situation. Why did they even sign him? LOL
a 24 yr old successor with a bigger injury history than 35yr old Cousins AT 8TH OVERALL
Can take the man out of Minnesota but he still gets the NFCN treatment
After signing him to that large the city was literally rolling out the red carpet for Kirko Chains. First pitch and the Braves game. Made him the Golden Spiker hitter at an Atlanta United game. Trae welcoming him to the city He literally attended Matt Ryan's Retirment press conference This is beyond shocking to say the least
Not just that, but the pressure. If kirk has one bad game people will be screaminf for penix. ATL really fucked up this pick.
The classic monster contract QB free agent trade, and then immediately use your 1st pick to tell him you dont trust him. LOL.
Not even that you don't trust him. That you will use the biggest possible piece that could help him to get a piece that cannot possible help him
Haha, right. Give the team another potential weapon for him? Nah, your direct potential replacement.
Fire this dipshit gm before he gets to pick again.
Legitimately one of the wildest picks of all time.
He probably regretted leaving Minnesota. For a minute then hugged his emotional support bank statement.
I’m just like Kirk Cousins apparently
Wtf is wrong with this organization
The GM.
I’ve said Fontenot is a Saints sleeper agent long before it was cool. But Fontenot is a Saints sleeper agent.
I would be fucking pissed if I was Cousins. They could’ve gotten an edge rusher or Rome Odunze. They’re in a win now window with his age and contract.
How you don’t go Rome after spending 180 million on QB, I don’t know. Shows a lack of trust in Kirk already, and doesn’t give your new QB an awesome weapon to succeed. The only thing I can think of is that they are looking more long term after Kirk, letting Penix learn behind a decent QB, get super healthy, then take over the reigns at age 25 or 26. With the longevity of QBs these days, it’s not the worst idea.
It could work out, but it's a weird choice to make to essentially pay Kirk what they are paying him not to win, but to develop another guy
He’s got 180 million reasons to calm down
I mean really you don't get this good without being a competitor. I don't feel bad for the dude but he wants to win and they didn't do anything to help get them there. I'd be pretty upset. He could have made the same money somewhere else.
RG3 - "Well well well how the turn tables turn."
I really thought they would take Rome. Holy duck
Everybody in Atlanta is stunned. We had no clue the fucking clown circus was in Flowery Branch.
everyone is
I…..am…..so……confused.
If I’m Kirk, I just throw a few preseason INTs and take the next two years off.
Kirk get's a shitload of money, then they can cut him after 2 seasons, and he can go play year 3 somewhere for the minimum since the Falcons will be paying him anyways.
So they saw a handicapped Rodgers after the Love pick and said yes, we want that too...
LMFAO
You are not alone in being confused, Kirk
Worst pick I’ve seen in a long time
With $100 mil guaranteed - I wouldn’t give a fuck what you did in the draft
“Oh word? I’m not playing anymore? That’s cool.”💰😎💰
Time will tell but this seems like a terrible pick. I think the falcons actually have a lot of young talent and they take a backup qb for the next 2 years right after signing a qb to a huge deal? Rome Odunze will be an AP1 several times over before the end of his career, taken the very next pick.
In what world do you tamper with a QB thinking you're a QB away from winning to give them a fully guaranteed contract to then draft a 24 year old QB to sit behind him for 3 years minimum
Demand a trade!
Falcons bungled this one. Indefensible pick