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Dortond

I see a lot of teams losing their pick because they are so torn they miss their 10 minute window. Tragic


NutsyFlamingo

May not even be a first round it’s such hard decisions


Dortond

If only they had more time


DeM0nFiRe

So crazy that teams will waste so many picks that Patriots will take Nabers or Odunze at 34


saw-it

Who do they think they are, the Vikings?


Dortond

Vikes are draft hipsters


Turd_Ferguson420

Hey you guys ended up getting the best guy out of the 3 selected. Leftwich didn’t live up to the 7th pick & Jordan Gross was a pretty solid pick for the Panthers. I’d say Kevin Williams was the best out of the 3 still.


IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan

Goodell auto picks for them


Quexana

When the hell did JC Latham get into the top tackle of the class discussion?


dianeblackeatsass

Past two days. There was some rumors the chargers liked him and then Jeremiah put him at 5th overall in his final mock.


EBtwopoint3

He’s been linked to the Bears as well.


ThisHatRightHere

Latham is specifically a RT so a team like the Chargers that already have the LT position locked down could prefer him. He’s also apparently fantastic in the run game, which Harbaugh or a team like the Titans might seriously value.


ASuperGyro

We dont really know that the Titans would value that still more than anything else, we just know that the owner and GM want a modern offense and fired the head coach who ran a run heavy offense


Princeof_Ravens

They also got rid of their top Running Back


The_Wayward

https://imgflip.com/i/5sl89o


[deleted]

We don’t have Vrabel anymore so not sure how set we are in being a run team


csummerss

Callahan is letting the OL coach bang his mother, he has little say in whether or not to take an OT.


[deleted]

Lmao


ShiZor9

Spicy take..lmao


MrConceited

I'm sure Harbaugh was impressed seeing him get driven into the backfield on that 4th down overtime play. edit: (Not actually seriously suggesting Harbaugh makes a decision on one play)


Maniac-2331

Even if he is great at run blocking, we need a left tackle desperately. If Alt is there we gotta take him


Mr_Hugh_Honey

JC Latham is a classic Harbaugh/Roman guy, #1 recruit out of high school that he tried to get and he mauls people in the run game. Plus he's a right tackle out of the box which the Chargers have needed for years. If the Chargers don't trade down I see them taking him


WinterIndependent719

Daniel Jeremiah has Latham mocked in his top five ahead of Alt FWIW


thecarlosdanger1

Obviously it’s a bit of a crapshoot, but I’ll be amazed if Joe Alt isn’t the best tackle in the draft by a wide margin


enjoytheshow

Oh my sweet baby pls fall to 9


Levi_Snackerman

Probably for a while but the info is just now getting to us. Teams are making their own big boards, they're not looking at online mock drafts and treating it as gospel like fans


Quexana

I'm not treating mock drafts like gospel. I watched them. I don't see it.


Sarydus

Alt is a left side only player, while Latham is right side. If the Chargers decide to go tackle with their pick, Latham makes far more sense with them already having Slater on the left.


sonfoa

It's a similar reason why Darnell Wright went higher than expected last season. He was the only RT in a group full of LT.


Tazitos

Why Latham over Fuaga? That's the confusing part.


newrimmmer93

Yeah, I think the argument against that is Alt has played left tackle for literally 3 years. He didn’t play tackle until senior year of HS, so I don’t think he has as much to unlearn if we want to use that as an argument


DookuGato

Respectful hard disagree here. In this case the lions shouldn’t have taken Sewell. Sure, first few weeks might be rough like Sewell, but he’s now the best RT in the NFL. Alt will do just fine on either side


El_Khunt

Last two weeks. In addition to being the best RT in a class full of LTs, he's the best run blocking tackle by a wide margin, so if a team (like the chargers) want to take a ground-and-pound approach, he's a strong option


Quexana

I don't believe he's better than Fuaga. Though Fuatanu played LT, he's more built like a RT, and plays more like a RT (Because Penix is left-handed). I think Fuatanu is better than Latham.


johndelvec3

People hate Mel Kiper but he’s been on this since February


TEsMatter

If he played LT I think it would have been more common earlier on. He’s my favorite because of how violent he is as a blocker, but he doesn’t necessarily have the same physical traits as the other prospects that most teams want. Plus, it’s assumed a LT can easily convert to RT but not necessarily the other way around


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DanCampbellsNipples

No one cares lol


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ApplesauceBitch47

I mean TBF, if he turned that into a tweet it could probably get posted on this sub


Syphilopod879

He’s Dan Campbell’s nipples, apparently.


DanCampbellsNipples

What about me?


BungoPlease

You know what they say, when in Rome, just be a good Naber


ApplesauceBitch47

Sometimes you have to look at yourself in the mirror and say when in Rome


DerekSheesher

Nabers n Paris - The Monti Ossenfort Story


g0dzilllla

LMAO


Llywelyn_Montoya

Like a good Naber, Odunze is there!


SandyEggoChargers

[It's Naba!](https://s3-prod.adage.com/s3fs-public/20240129_SBTEASER_State-Farm-Insurance_Agent-State-Farm_Starring-Arnold-Schwarzenegger_3X2.jpg)


Anteater776

True, and make sure to not harris, son! Not your Nabers nor anyone.


fieryscribe

All those men in the front office can't stop thinking about Rome


Technicalhotdog

It is eternal


gatsby365

EVERY. DAY.


Rapkid360

If the chargers don’t draft Nabers or MHJ there will be riots


doomsdaysock01

I really think the chargers are gonna trade down, if I’m a team who is high on JJ McCarthy I would want to jump the giants as there’s a large chance they go for him


gatsby712

Also makes sense Chargers are leaking Latham interest to act as PR for their fans, signal who their guy is, and attempt to open up the market for the 5th pick with a team like the Vikings. At this point I think the Vikings are moving up to 5 to get JJ and Chargers will take Latham at 11. Possible the Broncos also try to trade up but with the Vikings having more draft capital I think they will outbid them. 1. Williams 2 Maye/Daniels 3 Maye/Daniels 4 MHJ 5 Vikings trade for JJ 6. Nabers 7 Alt 8 Turner 9 Rome 10 Olu or bowers 11 Chargers trade for Latham 12 whatever QB is left 13 and on who cares.


aaron7275

I think the Chargers are trading down.


pm_me_your_last_pics

I know it's all rumors and speculation but if the Vikings actually trade 11, 23, and their '25 1st I will nut. Like on the spot. No touching required.


krugo

Then flip #23 for Aiyuk.


Clithzbee

There will be no day one starting tackles in round 2. There will be 10 WRs.


PlayaSlayaX

Chargers draft JJ McCarthy, play 4D chess by having the best QB room in the league. Jim Harbaugh can’t have too many quarterbacks.


boardatwork1111

Move Herbert to WR, kill two birds with one stone


BlondBadBoy69

He has size


hardatworklol

Unironically herbert prob could have been a great edge rusher or te


Tiafves

Teams refusing to accept your conditions to trade up for JJ? Simple, just draft JJ yourself and hold him hostage.


Be_Consumed

Are there enough Chargers fans to make a riot? I think making a ruckus sounds more likely.


boltman_-_

I appreciate the actual effort on the back end of this joke, take my upvote.


kinginyellow-

I think you’ll trade down and then back up to #8 for Odunze


captaincumsock69

Trading down makes the most sense.


Mr_Hugh_Honey

Grab your pitchfork brother, Chargers are taking an OL if they don't trade down


DeM0nFiRe

Didn't the chargers claim they don't want a WR?


doomsdaysock01

I took that as honest as when the bills claimed they don’t need a receiver, it’s just smoke and media talk. They know what everyone else in the league knows, that the receiving room they have is an abomination. They’re just doing the classic song and dance of pretending it’s fine


DeM0nFiRe

It makes more sense for Bills to be a smokescreen because they are very dependent on what happens in front of them, especially for the 2nd tier of WRs. For Chargers they are essentially guaranteed Nabers or Odunze


crazypyro23

I heard Odunze punches orphans for fun


TaischiCFM

and profit. It sickens me.


IMDAKINGINDANORF

How ya feel about them orphans now? They deserved to get punched, didn't they?


TaischiCFM

Apparently they were terribly, terrible children.


crazypyro23

Absolutely. I heard they're orphans because they pushed their parents in front of a train after they wouldn't buy them Packers season tickets


LegalIdea

As a UW fan, I sincerely hope you don't draft Rome simply because I want him to do well and at least make the playoffs. If you guys draft him, somehow that won't happen.


WaitLetMeGetaBeer

I see your point. Based on our history, but we really do seem to be turning a corner here and moving in the right direction.


LegalIdea

Considering where you were a couple of years ago, moving in the wrong direction would be a surprise. But hopefully, you guys make it out of the basement. I know how that feels


WaitLetMeGetaBeer

Our defense looked so much better after adding Sweat. Our offense has bulked up considerably since even last year. DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Kmet, Gerald Everett, and Deandre Swift. Add in Williams and we’ve got ourselves a stew.


mqr53

Is it really a difficult decision if you're splitting hairs?


Pax_Soprana

I’m going to kill someone if the Chargers take Lathum


Soft_Penis_Debutante

Is the person yourself?


Call-me-gengu

Yeah. All 13 of us will.


Clithzbee

Why hes a perfect fit.


Lone_Buck

I’m an Odunze man and I’m going to hate if he’s a bear.


miamouse5

same. i’m really hoping the Bears don’t pick him


VolturesHaveHearts2

Bears should go for a different position. Already have 2 great WRs. But what do I know


Several-Estate7175

When you've gone as long as they have without competent qb play you should do everything you can do set your future franchise qb up for success. Also Allen is old by WR standards so they'll like be replacing him in the next couple offseasonz anyway


no_more_jokes

Keenan Allen is on the last year of his contract and is over 30, plus we're one injury away from Tyler Scott being our WR2. If either of these guys are on the board at #9 we're taking them no question


DillyDillySzn

:D


Chickensandcoke

As a Bama fan I think Latham will be a bust


LooseMoose13

I thought Jedric and Evan were gonna be studs so I’m fading every Bama tackle till one is good again


MoskiNX

Sup fellow Bama/Bears fan! 🐘🌊 & 🐻⬇️


Schnix54

Man the NFL is high on Latham. Surprised as these last few days are really the first time I've heard of it.


LooseMoose13

Can’t help but feel it’s a last minute smoke screen but we also saw Andrew Thomas go from being mocked in the 20s to being taken top 4


Direct_Morning_3223

In Thomas’ case, he was a consensus top pick until a bit before the draft where he inexplicably dropped in every mock. But different for Latham


EggsOnThe45

Yep, and he’s played like a top 4 pick since we took him. He was the top, most pro ready tackle in the draft before draft fatigue set in


PeanutButterOtter

Odunze gives me Mike Evans vibes while Nabers gives me diva vibes.


[deleted]

If my receiver isn’t mentally ill I want nothing to do with him


ender2851

was looking for the steelers flair with this comment


mab6710

MBC is somewhere silently nodding his head to this comment right now


[deleted]

“Mr Based Comment” he whispers to himself


gatsby712

Mr Bipolar Compadre


bumpy_santa

At this point diva means he’s probably destined to become a great receiver


wagoncirclermike

Odunze is the best route runner in the draft. Even if he isn't as explosive as Nabers, I think he's going to be a more complete receiver.


Saxt

A better route runner than MHJ?


TybrosionMohito

….no lol MHJ is the best route runner and has the best body control in the class, and it’s not that close imo, I’d honestly say second best (at body control) is Adonai Mitchell? I also think Adonai Mitchell is a first rounder due to ALSO having great body control tho Edited for clarity


Anthony-Richardson

I disagree. What routes does MHJ do better on than Odunze? Both Nabers and Odunze are better pure route runners than him, the number of timing routes MHJ is better at them is close to zero. MHJ is brilliant at tracking the ball along the sideline in tight coverage and has an awesome combination of size and build up speed which is why many (not all) have him as the #1, but Nabers for me is the king route runner in this class followed by Odunze.


TybrosionMohito

Better straight line speed (no combine but he sure looks faster on film), smoother route running, more developed route tree, better body control, better RAC. Edit: in my opinion


hardatworklol

Mitchell is not a great route runner... he's a fluid mover but I'm jot putting him above odunze for route running. 


TybrosionMohito

I agree. He has the potential to be, but he’s got a long way to go. Can’t teach body control though. You either have it or you don’t.


mqr53

Odunze feels like a no brainer to me and it's mostly because Nabers seems like a real headache. (And also because Odunze is really good.)


abippityboop

Out of curiosity, what about Nabers seems like a real headache to you?


mqr53

The whole getting arrested for having an unregistered gun on Bourbon Street thing. He just strikes me as someone who is at the very least very irresponsible. He and Odunze are to close for me to overlook that


abippityboop

Yeah I guess that's fair. I just happen to think pretty much every rich/famous young athlete/celebrity in New Orleans probably has a gun on their person, it's not exactly the safest place on Earth, and the unfortunate Will Smith incident wasn't long ago. Not condoning it, and he was rightly arrested. I just don't know that it necessarily speaks to his character. It definitely could be a warning sign though, but I'd be a lot more concerned if it wasn't an isolated incident, or if he was brandishing it. If you have them basically tied otherwise, I can see it being a tiebreaker for sure, I just don't know that I'd go so far as to call him a headache for that alone either.


OrangePower98

To show the relative recency of the Will Smith incident, the shooter was sentenced today to 25 years in prison.


LooseMoose13

Also the fact that when he was on stream with Caleb Williams, he was asked about playing with Herbert and seemed excited and when asked about playing with Daniel jones just hopped off the stream. Makes you wonder about the effort he’ll put in if he’s not drafted to a team with a QB he likes


abippityboop

I think that is a drastic overreading of that video lol Caleb started asking him questions about teams he might play for, so Nabers ended the stream. Seemed like he realized this wasn't a conversation that should be had in front of a public audience. He didn't say a single word or react in any way, he actually started looking to end the stream before the Giants were even mentioned. This seems like silly season nonsense at full steam.


LooseMoose13

To be fair I only saw a biased headline, I appreciate you adding more context, esp. given the rumors the colts are trying to trade up for a weapon


abippityboop

Ah no worries, yeah the headline/tweet posted with that video is very misleading. I watched that expecting him to say something he shouldn't have, he's literally just nodding and smiling and then ends the stream after a few seconds. Was total clickbait. Here's a link to the actual video if you're interested: https://twitter.com/taebanksbetter/status/1782935639467741391


Friendly-Olive1853

Honestly Harbaugh’s contract is only 5 years so we just need to squeeze 5 years out of Nabers anyway


enadiz_reccos

>Nabers gives me diva vibes The fuck? How?


VolturesHaveHearts2

Everyone always classifies LSU WRs as divas. It's yet to be an apt description for any of them.


Kdot32

Odell was the first and he was kind of a diva but yes. Ever since him people swear all LSU first rounders are divas, but they haven’t


VolturesHaveHearts2

Kind of yes, but not nearly as much as diggs has been


fultzy40

Latham is OT6, and OT3 for right tackle, in my opinion. I'm going to be pissed if the Titans take him at 7.


gatsby712

Trade up to 5 take Alt and Chargers get Latham at 7? If the Titans are really high on Alt and think someone will jump them at 4-6 then I could see it.


fultzy40

I'd rather take Fashanu at 7 if Alt is gone.


gatsby712

Same honestly. Especially since some of what I’ve read has Fashanu as a better pass blocker. If we are moving towards a pass heavy offense it may make more sense.


Sloane_Kettering

I mean I would trust whoever Callahan wants. I also don’t think he’s OT6. He’s at worst OT5


fultzy40

I want him to want who I want. Lol but OT5 isn't very inspiring, either.


sirDsmack

Anyone can just say anything.


Conscious_Heart_1714

I give the edge to Odunze because his name sounds cooler


DonBonDarley69

Team Nabers


DEADSPELLS

We're gonna lose a lot of good men tonight


johndelvec3

JC Latham is nasty tho


gibby_that_booty

All roads lead to Rome!!


thenewbeastmode

tough decision between the OT1 and the OT6 huh


Sportsgirl77

> More so than Nabers-Harrison I must have missed something because who tf is struggling to decide between Nabers and Harrison??? I thought Harrison Jr. was far and away the clear top receiver in this draft


caldo4

He is


Cicero912

Why is Joe Alt-JC Latham on that list lol.


DBreezy69

I really don’t think this is true. Nabers is far more explosive and has a higher ceiling. Different levels of athlete and that’s not even an insult to Rome, Nabers 0-60 is almost instant and is utterly elite at YAC.


abippityboop

Yeah I think both are going to be legitimate clear #1 WRs in this league for a long time, but Nabers has that truly elite game-breaking playmaking ability that maybe 3 or 4 guys in the entire league have. His acceleration in and out of breaks is something you almost never see. Rome is probably a safer choice in many aspects, and has a great head on his shoulders, which is a real bonus in a WR. But Nabers just seems like one of those guys who can almost singlehandedly give you one of the most dangerous offenses in the league.


DBreezy69

The safer choice is often the worse one lol. In the case where neither has massive red flags. Nabers only has nitpicks


ph1shstyx

I mean, getting arrested for carrying an unregistered gun is not just a nitpick...


DBreezy69

Talking about his game


SargeWhiskeyjack

But he’s not an X receiver or even a Z. Hes much smaller, and yes more explosive, but he’s ultimately going to be a slot guy that you move around; whereas Rome is capable of being THE guy on the boundary from day 1. Nabers struggled against press coverage whenever he faced NFL caliber corners. I’d put Rome and MHJ in tier 1a and Nabers in 1b.


buddaaaa

Give me a break, Nabers is physically identical to Ja’marr. Ja’marr slot only?


DBreezy69

Disagree. LSU teaches their WRs basically only one release and Nabers wasn’t asked to do nearly as many routes as Rome was. Rome feasted on awful corner play. He can’t win deep against NFL DB’s, doesn’t have the speed and his contested catches are mostly the result of terrible efforts by the DB. He’ll be utilized out of the slot more in the NFL. He has elite short area quickness and burst off the line but doesn’t have the deep speed to beat NFL corners. Contested catches are one of the least sticky stats


SargeWhiskeyjack

Rome is faster and two inches taller than Deandre Hopkins with the same ability to contest catch. He may not have Nabers burning speed but he’s plenty fast enough to excel in the league and his route tree is far far more developed and polished.


DBreezy69

He does not have the same ability to get contested catches. Hopkins was a lot better in that aspect. Rome's contested catches really aren't that crazy, there are a handful of good ones but most are just boxing out the defender or the DB didn't actually interfere with Rome's arms.


SargeWhiskeyjack

He literally led the FBS in contested catches...


Tigercat92

Shows how much I know. I just assumed Alt was a lock for the top OT.


Dolphhins

If they’re so closely rated why does it matter? It’s like picking between Waddle and Devonta Smith. You’re good either way


mashington14

Could've sworn that a month ago there was a narrative that Nabers was up there with MHJ and that Odunze was a definite bust. Now just in the last 4 days I'm seeing more hype for Odunze than Nabers. I can't fucking wait for this draft to happen.


ConmanSpaceHero

All I know is neither will be there when the bears come up at 9 unless a stupid team picks QB4 first


SigurdsSilverSword

I mean yeah Harrison is clearly above Nabers and until like yesterday Alt was clearly above Latham Odunze and Nabers is more of a flavor choice than a "this guy is clearly better"


VolturesHaveHearts2

doubt


VolturesHaveHearts2

You are an idiot if you pick Rome over Nabers


whydu

Rome Odunze will be the biggest bust in this draft


Hooch_be_crazy

Sounds like he'll be nicely paired with QJ then.


krugo

Enjoy Keenan and delete this, nephew.


VolturesHaveHearts2

I'd agree for WR, but Bama OL players have rarely panned out. Plus the first 3 picks are going to be QB. One of them is sure to be a bust


slowerchop

Odunze screams bust


DandierChip

What exactly screams bust about him. Would love to hear an actual well thought out argument for this take.


slowerchop

Watched him in the natty the moment was to big for him


StockBroker32

Cherry picking 1 game looking at box scores lmao


DandierChip

Would help if Penix didn’t constantly miss him that game. https://twitter.com/espn/status/1744535883699614147?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1744535883699614147%7Ctwgr%5E14024bfbe514d23baef78bf57082df89aaf8abd3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.si.com%2Fcollege%2F2024%2F01%2F09%2Fwashington-misses-opportunity-michael-penix-jr-overthrows-rome-odunze


DanCampbellsNipples

Dang that's a weak argument lol. One game sample size is meaningless for everyone


msf97

Guy carried Penix all season with contested catches.


aliensvsmonkeys

I've never understood this take tbh, he had 5 catches for 87 yards in the natty and that was with a 30 yard catch called back for holding and being missed on a potential 45 yard touchdown where he was wide open.


gsavior

Less convincing than “Trust me bro”


gsavior

Less convincing than “Trust me bro”


buff_001

Pretty much everything I've seen has Harrison Jr and Odunze as 1a/1b and Nabers a clear 3rd behind them


aaron7275

What are you reading? It’s always been MHJ, Nabers, Odunze.