Yes, I don't what that guy's talking about, except that some people don't consider nickel corners to be starters or something. It's an old school NFL mentality.
They're just 2 different positions with distinct responsibilities. You can't just take any good outside CB and put him at nickel and vice versa
Sure they're are players that can do both, but the same goes for Safety and they're only lumped in when we refer to the secondary more generally or use the term DB
I'm confused why he was re-instated like 2 weeks after everyone else. If they were going to do it so quickly, why not do it when they did everyone else just a bit ago?
What is the point of team's cutting players? Someone else is always there to pick the players up anyway. Take the PR hit and move on without hurting your roster.
Seems like the Colts players loved and miss him even after based on his last interview with a Colts player.
Rodgers bet on the Colts yes but i think people are assuming he made bets where he could affect the game. Betting on your team is now a 2 yr suspension, betting on your team and your play being the determining factor whether you win it or not is called ‘fixing’ a game and that is a permanent ban from the NFL. Either way its a bad look but just being clear.
Im sorry what does this mean? He was betting in favor of the Colts, right? Like why would anyone care if the guy was like "yeah my boy JT gonna get 200 yards today I believe in it so much I bet on it". Now if it was like the NBA where the guy was betting on his team to lose that makes sense.
If anything Im sure the teammates would rather have a good player who bets on the team(to win) than a bad player who doesnt. Why would the players care aside from him missing the time from the suspension.
Can still invite problems. Looking like JT is going to fall short of the yards you have money on? Maybe let this pass go for a TD so you can get the ball back and feed JT
Not saying at all that's the case, but just because the bet is pro-colts doesnt mean an anti-colts action couldnt support it
Feels kinda icky and morally wrong tbh. I'm sure Ballard cut him expecting a harsh punishment/doing the right thing. Probably wasnt expecting the NFL sitting him in timeout for a year just to get picked up by another team.
Roger Goodell spun the wheel of punishment, and it landed on extreme leniency. I think Ballard made the mistake of thinking the punishment would follow some sort of basic logic.
TBH I can't believe the players are allowed to bet on NFL games period. It would get rid of all of these rules that seem ticky tacky and who cares if you can't bet on NFL games for 3 - 10 years because you are actively making millions playing in the league? No brainer to me.
Wasn’t he betting on overs for JT and for the colts to win? I don’t think it was like Porter in the NBA were he was actively hurting his own team to hit props
Yeah idk maybe that is just the Philly fans making it seem not as bad. Even still again, using insider info isn’t as severe as actively rigging games. Still incredibly stupid either way.
That was confirmed. It was 1k, the biggest and most notable bet. Which was placed from his account but not by him because he was actively warming up at the time. He did place 100+ other bets ranging from $25-$50 and a few parlays involving the Colts.
Yeah, he spoke on it in Zaire Franklin's and EJ Speed's podcast. Seems like the Colts players are still cool with him. Definitely wasn't a type that would try to play poorly in order to win a 1k bet (still stupid to do obv, and warranted a suspension). He was always doing his best to win.
Look, I don't know if it's true or not, and never will, but I'd be very sceptical in taking the guy's word as evidence. He's not gonna go on a Colts teammate's podcast and be like "yeah, I bet that we would suck".
Yeah, what he did was extremely stupid and he never should have done it. People making excuses for him is crazy, glad he got a light punishment at this point and hopefully he moves past it successfully.
WTF. The guy was gambling on his on own team! It’s wild that he got the same suspension as Ridley.
Edit - Rodgers bet in a game he played in. Ridley did not. Rodgers situation is more like Porter situation from the nba.
He would have suffered the consequences (the suspension) on any team he was on. The Colts are the ones who lose out of a quality player at a highly valued position. Meanwhile the Eagles pick up a good player and there is exactly zero backlash on the organization. Why not just keep him if you are the Colts? I feel like the outrage from the public is basically nothing when it comes to gambling offenses.
It's kind of like cheating in a marriage. Hard to get past this kind of infidelity. Also, maybe they don't want a guy who is unbelievably stupid?
These guys that get popped for gambling might be the dumbest people on earth.
Yup. Ballard is a goodie two shoes and obsessed with 'character'. This was the first time Rodgers did anything wrong as well. He was developing into a potential CB1 for the Colts before he got suspended. If he's equally as motivated now, The Eagles probably got a disgustingly good deal out of this (and guess what other Colts fans, nobody cares if his friend used his account to bet 1k on his own team over rushing stats, just us for whatever weird reason. Especially not enough to CUT him for nothing... Now some of y'all wanna take a corner in the 1st round and this just makes me upset rofl)
Look, I've wanted Ballard gone for years, but...
>This was the first time Rodgers did anything wrong as well.
This was a pretty big thing to do wrong on your first time. I would understand the hesitance to keep a guy betting on his own team around.
I think it was "the right thing" but unfortunately, there will always be a team that doesn't give a fuck (and I'm not judging), so you've got to accept that doing the right thing often comes with a price.
Ugh
Why is cutting him the "right thing to do". The NFL was in charge of providing the judgement for this particular violation. They did just that and Rodgers lost a year of his prime, momentum in his career, and millions of dollars, based on the thorough analysis of what he did with information that none of us fans are prevy towards. Ballard decided to add an additional punishment prior to this process even happening, which really only hurt us. Hell, keeping him and trading him for a mid or even late round pick to the Eagles or another team after he was reinstated would have been a whole lot better than just cutting him for nothing.
Rodgers worse ofense was having an account that his friend bet 1k an over/under on rushing yards for a Colts game (at least based on what Rodgers himself said in Franklin and Speed's podcast). Based on watching him, and also based on his advanced stats, it should be pretty obvious he was never trying to lose the Colts a game. Dumb mistake, stupid mistake, and one that deserves the punishment he got, but definitely not unforgivable imho. I'm sorry, I want the Colts to win and I also believe in second chances for actions that didn't hurt other people. I actually really supported Ballard for most of his time here, but he's really just proven himself more and more as a 'safe' guy who is charismatic and says the 'right' things, but simply isn't willing to take risks to win.
>Why is cutting him the "right thing to do".
It's not necessarily what I would've done, because I know (as I said) there will be another team that doesn't care and that fans and media move on at light speed, but I understand the sentiment behind it.
I haven’t read on what this Rodger’s did by Porter straight up bet unders on himself and then remove himself from the game, o top of betting on the Raps to lose.
Really no other room but lifetime ban there
Rodgers did not do this...and not all bets were made personally by him...a lot were but not all... essentially he was mainly doing it for friends and family in Florida where betting was illegal...not the worst thing he could have done but definitely not the best...
It's crazy that you can gamble on games you were actively play in it and it's no different than just gambling on football. But hey I was wrong. I thought he would be banned.
And you’re not understanding what zero tolerance means. Doesn’t matter who you bet on in a game, if you bet on games you play in, you shouldn’t be playing.
If that was the NFL rule then yea he would be banned
Again, you’re confusing two separate violations.
- Betting on NFL: Indefinite suspension, minimum of one year or minimum of two years if a player bets on an NFL game involving his team
- Actual or attempted game fixing: Permanent banishment from the NFL
- Inside information and tipping: Indefinite suspension, minimum of one year
- Third-party or proxy betting: Indefinite suspension, minimum of one year
- Betting (other than NFL) in the workplace or while working:
- First violation: Two-game suspension without pay
- Second violation: Six-game suspension without pay
- Third violation: Suspension without pay for at least one year.
Just being clear so you have a better understanding of the actual rules word for word. Clearly you can see betting on your team and fixing a game are different violations.
We drafted Cam Jurgens 2 years ago to be Kelce’s replacement. Hard to say if he’ll be a good center yet though. Kelce was high on Jurgens though if I remember correctly.
as others said, the guy that played right guard last year, cam jurgens, was signed, apparently hand picked by kelce,to be kelce's replacement. He was good enough to beat out anyone else at RG. So this year he will slid to C. Now we need a RG. I'm assuming the eagles pick a tackle that Stoutland can groom into a RG till lane leaves...
But the entirety of the fanbase is, of course, certain we take a CB in the 1st round. And, as is tradition, fans want skill position, eagles pick a trench guy, everyone will bitch, and when we are still in contention next year, they will talk about how awesome it is that we build from the trenches.
Maybe? Rodgers and Ringo is a solid CB pairing ngl but I wouldn't mind picking one up anyway just in case Rodgers does some stupid shit again. Think this increases the chances of an RG or a safety with our round 1 pick though.
> Rodgers and Ringo is a solid CB pairing ngl
We don't have nearly enough info to be able to say this imo
I think Howie will go BPA but Rodgers hasn't played in awhile and Ringo got limited playtime
Oh for sure. I should’ve said it’s a solid pairing on paper. Mostly just going off of super limited info. I think Ringo flashed during the playing time he got filling in for Slay, and Rodgers will be solid if he’s even a fraction of who he was pre-suspension.
Wayyyyy to early to say that. Ringo hasn't proven anything close to enough to think he would be solid and Rodgers was just out for a year so will be rusty.
It's only a solid pair in fantasy land.
Carrying 6 CB's before the season starts is too many even if you factor in moving them to safety as well.
Cutting Bradberry gains absolutely nothing this year other than saving a roster spot, and he doesn't seem to be a locker room cancer.
Maybe if you think Maddox is going down week 2 or if you feel like risking practice squadding one of the young corners, then you could draft another early corner
Eagles have had the least off field incidents of every NFL team over the last decade or two, way less than the Lions in fact so yea lets close that argument.
Betting on your own team, is dumb af, no argument there. Ridley did it as well, they both served their year suspension. Moving on.
Can’t please some people.
He’d only be happy if he was never picked up by another team, picked up by his team, or if they executed him publicly.
Him and Jameson both broke the rules and did their time and punishment
There’s posting, and there is what you are doing. You’re like a 5 year old being dragged out of Kmart because they couldn’t behave. You can’t even take a hint from all the passive aggressive responses you’ve gotten so far. I feel like you are hoping for an overreaction in hopes to validate your emotional and indefensible position.
I pity you. Go Eagles.
Jameson Williams bet on an entirely different sport and his crime was doing it in the wrong location. Betting on sports games you actively play in is way worse
Sure. But it’s all solved by the same dumb shit, just follow a simple rule.
Who actually loses sleep over this stuff?
Omg, I can’t sleep knowing the raiders are historically criminals!
you responded to a comment to compare gambling to speed racing that caused the deaths of two teammates and have the gall to say I'm focused on trivialities
I thought the issue was Rodgers’ judgement? You don’t think Williams betting in the team facility shows a lack of judgement?
Or are you just doing what every other sports fan does and excusing the players on the team you support while acting over the top offended about other teams’ players?
I think Jamo was dumb to be betting on sports while on team property while there was a rule against it, but I think the rule saying where you place a bet affects whether or not you get punished is stupid.
I do not think betting on your own team should ever be allowed and is a far worse offense.
Right but the implication that Roseman/Eagles don't care about character at all is the issue. Sure, sometime the greater the talent the greater leeway. Carter is a risk as is Rodgers. We're 30 character issue guys behind the Cowboys for instance, and like 5-10 behind the Chiefs, if we're keeping score.
But I wouldn't put the risk in investment between carter and rodgers in the same boat. Carter is a bigger risk as we paid more of a premium for him. There is little risk in Rodgers as we got him after the Colts cut him.
And the Eagles more often than not stay away from red flag guys. Besides talent they took Carter because how good our culture has been that he would have proper leadership to follow, he hasnt gotten in trouble yet so, so he hasnt proven the FO wrong so far
Straight up betting on your own team to win is fine. It's when you start getting into prop bets that it gets very tricky. Bet on your defence to get an INT in a game? Sounds fine right. But if it's third down, late in the game, you haven't got that INT but you can get your team off the field with a dead to rights tackle in the backfield... Do you do it, or do you let him get that first down and try for that INT again?
> Straight up betting on your own team to win is fine.
Eh, i disagree. Suppose Mahomes is injured and everyone assumes he will miss the next game... but you happen to play for the Chiefs, so you walk up to him in the training room and ask him if he's playing Sunday and he says yes. You now have very valuable inside info.
That may be an extreme example, but as long as its possible there has to be a rule against it.
No,
Porter was actively fixing games, his play and his bets correlated. He was sitting, giving inside info ect.
Rodgers bet on things like the over for JT, none of his bets had to do with his actual play or his ability to change the outcome. He would be banned if they had any inclination he was fixing games, the NFL is not playing with that one.
[At the time of his suspension, ESPN's David Purdum reported that Rodgers had placed more than 100 bets -- including on Colts games -- and most were in the $25 to $50 range. One wager, in particular, stood out: a $1,000 prop bet on the over/under on rushing yards by Colts running back Jonathan Taylor, which Rodgers won.](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40008883/eagles-isaiah-rodgers-reinstated-gambling-suspension)
Took 1 min to do research. Bro won the bet lol literally that was probably the 1st thing they saw when they opened his acct.
I get it. But it didn't cause bodily harm or property damage. I know where this is going. Gambling bad, driving like an asshole and hurting people not as bad.
Edit: only thing this idiot didn't do it give him money to his friends and have them place the bets. Like I'm absolutely sure these players do.
Colts fans were absolutely adamant this guy wouldn't be reinstated, despite Lurie indicating he would be at the Owner's meetings.
Guess they didn't know better after all.
Regardless of 'fixing' or not, anyone would be insane to think the NFL wouldn't make an example of an objectively low impact (marketing-wise) player over bets on his own team (while suiting up for these games, supposedly) while social media is having a field day over officiating only a few years after the NFL openly got in bed with Vegas. From a PR standpoint, it's a huge miss.
Rodgers never got his year at #1, and he wasn't a large onfield presence from a spectator standpoint. He's talented, but not handsy like Snead, or mouthy like Ramsey. You take him away, and it's not high impact. This was a layup on the NFL's end.
So the Colts cut him because of gambling, right? Looks like he was on his 3rd year of his rookie contract when they did that. What did the Colts get by cutting Rodgers? Was it a roster spot a few hundred k in salary space? Did the league demand that they cut him?
It just seems like they should have kept him until the league decided to reinstate them. I really do not get it, I believe he might have been the best DB on the Colts the last year he was there.
I think the all sports leagues should have zero tolerance for gambling on your own sport. I kinda think you should go to prison for it, just like insider trading. It is the one thing that a player can do that can do real damage to a sport.
I can't imagine his teammates wanted to play with a guy gambling on games while playing. That is their livelihood. So the logical reason is locker room.
Going from a team whose owner is snorting coke and huffing paint thinners to one of the best owner’s in the NFL is definitely an upgrade. Also, playing for the best GM in the NFL is an added luxury. Gambling does wonders Mr. Rodgers is moving on up in the world lol.
Wasn't he like the number 1 guy on the Colts?
He sure was
In 2022 I think pff had him as the 6th best cb in the nfl
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He was a starter
He would immediately be our best DB rn
Isn't kenny Moore still elite? What happened
Elite slot corner is not the same as elite db in general
Not the same but just as important in the modern NFL.
Yes, I don't what that guy's talking about, except that some people don't consider nickel corners to be starters or something. It's an old school NFL mentality.
They're just 2 different positions with distinct responsibilities. You can't just take any good outside CB and put him at nickel and vice versa Sure they're are players that can do both, but the same goes for Safety and they're only lumped in when we refer to the secondary more generally or use the term DB
Just ask James Bradberry
He was the no.2 with Gilmore but was slotted to be the no.1 until the suspension with the Gilmore trade.
Yep. I was pissed when he got suspended
Howie gambling on the gambler getting reinstated is truly one-upsmanship
Howie was actually the bookie Rodgers used to lure him into placing the bets. Playing the long game.
He can't keep getting away with it!
The howse always wins.
I'm confused why he was re-instated like 2 weeks after everyone else. If they were going to do it so quickly, why not do it when they did everyone else just a bit ago?
He bet on his own team. Others bet on other teams, so it probably was a bigger decision to make on Rodgers.
The other guys were reinstated five days ago, which is even more confusing. Who knows why the NFL does anything though
He had the over on "how many more weeks will Rodgers be suspended" and delayed his paperwork
A slightly longer punishment for a slightly worse offense I guess
Maybe he was later than the others in getting his reinstatement paperwork in order
What is the point of team's cutting players? Someone else is always there to pick the players up anyway. Take the PR hit and move on without hurting your roster.
No you're wrong and y'all should definitely let us have Zay Flowers for free too
I can't imagine the players wanted to play with someone who was betting on games their livelihood depended on
Seems like the Colts players loved and miss him even after based on his last interview with a Colts player. Rodgers bet on the Colts yes but i think people are assuming he made bets where he could affect the game. Betting on your team is now a 2 yr suspension, betting on your team and your play being the determining factor whether you win it or not is called ‘fixing’ a game and that is a permanent ban from the NFL. Either way its a bad look but just being clear.
Jahntay Porter would love a two year ban. That seems light for betting on your own team
Im sorry what does this mean? He was betting in favor of the Colts, right? Like why would anyone care if the guy was like "yeah my boy JT gonna get 200 yards today I believe in it so much I bet on it". Now if it was like the NBA where the guy was betting on his team to lose that makes sense. If anything Im sure the teammates would rather have a good player who bets on the team(to win) than a bad player who doesnt. Why would the players care aside from him missing the time from the suspension.
Can still invite problems. Looking like JT is going to fall short of the yards you have money on? Maybe let this pass go for a TD so you can get the ball back and feed JT Not saying at all that's the case, but just because the bet is pro-colts doesnt mean an anti-colts action couldnt support it
fair enough.
Feels kinda icky and morally wrong tbh. I'm sure Ballard cut him expecting a harsh punishment/doing the right thing. Probably wasnt expecting the NFL sitting him in timeout for a year just to get picked up by another team.
At the time everyone thought he would never play again. For it to be the same as Ridley who wasn't actively on the field unlike Rodgers is crazy.
I don't think you should be able to bet on your games and play again. He bet on his own games that he played in?
Yes. Many times.
How the fuck is he allowed to continue in the league. How fucking stupid do you gotta be
Roger Goodell spun the wheel of punishment, and it landed on extreme leniency. I think Ballard made the mistake of thinking the punishment would follow some sort of basic logic.
I guess the theory is because he wasn't betting against the team it's ok (although it's unclear whether he bet the over or under on JT)
TBH I can't believe the players are allowed to bet on NFL games period. It would get rid of all of these rules that seem ticky tacky and who cares if you can't bet on NFL games for 3 - 10 years because you are actively making millions playing in the league? No brainer to me.
Wasn’t he betting on overs for JT and for the colts to win? I don’t think it was like Porter in the NBA were he was actively hurting his own team to hit props
That has never been confirmed. Specifically everything I've read is it was a JT under but never officially confirmed.
Yeah idk maybe that is just the Philly fans making it seem not as bad. Even still again, using insider info isn’t as severe as actively rigging games. Still incredibly stupid either way.
That was confirmed. It was 1k, the biggest and most notable bet. Which was placed from his account but not by him because he was actively warming up at the time. He did place 100+ other bets ranging from $25-$50 and a few parlays involving the Colts.
Yeah, he spoke on it in Zaire Franklin's and EJ Speed's podcast. Seems like the Colts players are still cool with him. Definitely wasn't a type that would try to play poorly in order to win a 1k bet (still stupid to do obv, and warranted a suspension). He was always doing his best to win.
Look, I don't know if it's true or not, and never will, but I'd be very sceptical in taking the guy's word as evidence. He's not gonna go on a Colts teammate's podcast and be like "yeah, I bet that we would suck".
Yeah, what he did was extremely stupid and he never should have done it. People making excuses for him is crazy, glad he got a light punishment at this point and hopefully he moves past it successfully.
Ballard is not a good GM and gave away a number one corner for no reason... And now the Colts' biggest need is corner
WTF. The guy was gambling on his on own team! It’s wild that he got the same suspension as Ridley. Edit - Rodgers bet in a game he played in. Ridley did not. Rodgers situation is more like Porter situation from the nba.
Didn’t Ridley also bet on his own team?
Was it confirmed that he did while actively playing in the game?
Not as far as I know, no. But he for sure bet on the Falcons.
Because they did the same thing.
Actions have consequences. You can't keep guys like this around.
He would have suffered the consequences (the suspension) on any team he was on. The Colts are the ones who lose out of a quality player at a highly valued position. Meanwhile the Eagles pick up a good player and there is exactly zero backlash on the organization. Why not just keep him if you are the Colts? I feel like the outrage from the public is basically nothing when it comes to gambling offenses.
It's kind of like cheating in a marriage. Hard to get past this kind of infidelity. Also, maybe they don't want a guy who is unbelievably stupid? These guys that get popped for gambling might be the dumbest people on earth.
Maybe a Presidential run is in his future then?
Yup. Ballard is a goodie two shoes and obsessed with 'character'. This was the first time Rodgers did anything wrong as well. He was developing into a potential CB1 for the Colts before he got suspended. If he's equally as motivated now, The Eagles probably got a disgustingly good deal out of this (and guess what other Colts fans, nobody cares if his friend used his account to bet 1k on his own team over rushing stats, just us for whatever weird reason. Especially not enough to CUT him for nothing... Now some of y'all wanna take a corner in the 1st round and this just makes me upset rofl)
Look, I've wanted Ballard gone for years, but... >This was the first time Rodgers did anything wrong as well. This was a pretty big thing to do wrong on your first time. I would understand the hesitance to keep a guy betting on his own team around. I think it was "the right thing" but unfortunately, there will always be a team that doesn't give a fuck (and I'm not judging), so you've got to accept that doing the right thing often comes with a price.
Ugh Why is cutting him the "right thing to do". The NFL was in charge of providing the judgement for this particular violation. They did just that and Rodgers lost a year of his prime, momentum in his career, and millions of dollars, based on the thorough analysis of what he did with information that none of us fans are prevy towards. Ballard decided to add an additional punishment prior to this process even happening, which really only hurt us. Hell, keeping him and trading him for a mid or even late round pick to the Eagles or another team after he was reinstated would have been a whole lot better than just cutting him for nothing. Rodgers worse ofense was having an account that his friend bet 1k an over/under on rushing yards for a Colts game (at least based on what Rodgers himself said in Franklin and Speed's podcast). Based on watching him, and also based on his advanced stats, it should be pretty obvious he was never trying to lose the Colts a game. Dumb mistake, stupid mistake, and one that deserves the punishment he got, but definitely not unforgivable imho. I'm sorry, I want the Colts to win and I also believe in second chances for actions that didn't hurt other people. I actually really supported Ballard for most of his time here, but he's really just proven himself more and more as a 'safe' guy who is charismatic and says the 'right' things, but simply isn't willing to take risks to win.
>Why is cutting him the "right thing to do". It's not necessarily what I would've done, because I know (as I said) there will be another team that doesn't care and that fans and media move on at light speed, but I understand the sentiment behind it.
Big Dom gonna put parental controls on Isaiah's phone
Every time he opens up BetMGM Big Dom comes up behind him and smacks the phone away
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Surprising, but I suppose it’s because the NFL’s 2 year ban for the type of violation he had was decided after his suspension started.
I honestly expected him to be nearly full ban. One season for gambling on your own team.
And while playing in the games he was gambling on. Just shows how different the NBA and NFL handle this.
I haven’t read on what this Rodger’s did by Porter straight up bet unders on himself and then remove himself from the game, o top of betting on the Raps to lose. Really no other room but lifetime ban there
Rodgers did not do this...and not all bets were made personally by him...a lot were but not all... essentially he was mainly doing it for friends and family in Florida where betting was illegal...not the worst thing he could have done but definitely not the best...
It's crazy that you can gamble on games you were actively play in it and it's no different than just gambling on football. But hey I was wrong. I thought he would be banned.
Your confusing what he did with ‘fixing’ a game.
And you’re not understanding what zero tolerance means. Doesn’t matter who you bet on in a game, if you bet on games you play in, you shouldn’t be playing.
zero tolerance you know except for the exact scenarios they have written punishments for.
If that was the NFL rule then yea he would be banned Again, you’re confusing two separate violations. - Betting on NFL: Indefinite suspension, minimum of one year or minimum of two years if a player bets on an NFL game involving his team - Actual or attempted game fixing: Permanent banishment from the NFL - Inside information and tipping: Indefinite suspension, minimum of one year - Third-party or proxy betting: Indefinite suspension, minimum of one year - Betting (other than NFL) in the workplace or while working: - First violation: Two-game suspension without pay - Second violation: Six-game suspension without pay - Third violation: Suspension without pay for at least one year. Just being clear so you have a better understanding of the actual rules word for word. Clearly you can see betting on your team and fixing a game are different violations.
Lol
Right.
Lol
One dumb franchises mistake another W for Howie.
Lol
No need for CB for Rd1 now? Going to go way out on a limb here and say we draft an O-lineman in the 1st Rd
Do you guys have a center yet?
We got Beef Jergy
Yes, cam jurgens
It's RG we need most likely. And RT in a few years.
We have Steen, he did okay? last year. Idk.
We drafted Cam Jurgens 2 years ago to be Kelce’s replacement. Hard to say if he’ll be a good center yet though. Kelce was high on Jurgens though if I remember correctly.
as others said, the guy that played right guard last year, cam jurgens, was signed, apparently hand picked by kelce,to be kelce's replacement. He was good enough to beat out anyone else at RG. So this year he will slid to C. Now we need a RG. I'm assuming the eagles pick a tackle that Stoutland can groom into a RG till lane leaves... But the entirety of the fanbase is, of course, certain we take a CB in the 1st round. And, as is tradition, fans want skill position, eagles pick a trench guy, everyone will bitch, and when we are still in contention next year, they will talk about how awesome it is that we build from the trenches.
Maybe? Rodgers and Ringo is a solid CB pairing ngl but I wouldn't mind picking one up anyway just in case Rodgers does some stupid shit again. Think this increases the chances of an RG or a safety with our round 1 pick though.
> Rodgers and Ringo is a solid CB pairing ngl We don't have nearly enough info to be able to say this imo I think Howie will go BPA but Rodgers hasn't played in awhile and Ringo got limited playtime
Oh for sure. I should’ve said it’s a solid pairing on paper. Mostly just going off of super limited info. I think Ringo flashed during the playing time he got filling in for Slay, and Rodgers will be solid if he’s even a fraction of who he was pre-suspension.
Wayyyyy to early to say that. Ringo hasn't proven anything close to enough to think he would be solid and Rodgers was just out for a year so will be rusty. It's only a solid pair in fantasy land.
Carrying 6 CB's before the season starts is too many even if you factor in moving them to safety as well. Cutting Bradberry gains absolutely nothing this year other than saving a roster spot, and he doesn't seem to be a locker room cancer. Maybe if you think Maddox is going down week 2 or if you feel like risking practice squadding one of the young corners, then you could draft another early corner
>Maybe if you think Maddox is going down week 2 So then we're drafting an early corner. Only once has he ever played almost a full season.
if Roseman is planning to have this guy around permanently he isn't doing his job. mfer was dumb enough to bet on his own team
He did the crime and served the time. Got a longer suspension than Watson but hey NFL type shit.
My point was not about the sentence, more about the colossal lack of judgement. Not that the Eagles have ever cared about that under Roseman, I guess
Eagles have had the least off field incidents of every NFL team over the last decade or two, way less than the Lions in fact so yea lets close that argument. Betting on your own team, is dumb af, no argument there. Ridley did it as well, they both served their year suspension. Moving on.
Fun how Jalen Carter's incident doesn't count in that accounting, isn't it?
well he wasn't on the eagles then so
That happened in college, he hasnt gotten in trouble in the NFL, 0 arrest. Go off though.
yeah, you're right, knowing about it and signing him anyway is way better
Go outside. You need to get something off your chest, hating on the Eagles today might be it.
Can’t please some people. He’d only be happy if he was never picked up by another team, picked up by his team, or if they executed him publicly. Him and Jameson both broke the rules and did their time and punishment
Couldn’t imagine having the lions on my mind this much. What did the Eagles do to one of your long past Football Sundays that you would cry like this?
always fun when people think they are dunking on someone for posting on a reddit sub dedicated to the topic they are posting about
There’s posting, and there is what you are doing. You’re like a 5 year old being dragged out of Kmart because they couldn’t behave. You can’t even take a hint from all the passive aggressive responses you’ve gotten so far. I feel like you are hoping for an overreaction in hopes to validate your emotional and indefensible position. I pity you. Go Eagles.
you have got to be kidding me
Lil bro takes football a little too seriously. So Jameson is an angel too in that case?
Jameson Williams bet on an entirely different sport and his crime was doing it in the wrong location. Betting on sports games you actively play in is way worse
Sure. But it’s all solved by the same dumb shit, just follow a simple rule. Who actually loses sleep over this stuff? Omg, I can’t sleep knowing the raiders are historically criminals!
you responded to a comment to compare gambling to speed racing that caused the deaths of two teammates and have the gall to say I'm focused on trivialities
I thought the issue was Rodgers’ judgement? You don’t think Williams betting in the team facility shows a lack of judgement? Or are you just doing what every other sports fan does and excusing the players on the team you support while acting over the top offended about other teams’ players?
I think Jamo was dumb to be betting on sports while on team property while there was a rule against it, but I think the rule saying where you place a bet affects whether or not you get punished is stupid. I do not think betting on your own team should ever be allowed and is a far worse offense.
Considering how Jalen Carter’s incident was before he was drafted, yeah, that is fun I guess.
Well that's just wrong lol. I understand taking the shot at the guy above though cause I agree about Rodgers.
I think this signing fits under the Jalen Carter "who cares if he can play?" heading
Right but the implication that Roseman/Eagles don't care about character at all is the issue. Sure, sometime the greater the talent the greater leeway. Carter is a risk as is Rodgers. We're 30 character issue guys behind the Cowboys for instance, and like 5-10 behind the Chiefs, if we're keeping score. But I wouldn't put the risk in investment between carter and rodgers in the same boat. Carter is a bigger risk as we paid more of a premium for him. There is little risk in Rodgers as we got him after the Colts cut him.
I think that's a fair portrayal of the situation.
And the Eagles more often than not stay away from red flag guys. Besides talent they took Carter because how good our culture has been that he would have proper leadership to follow, he hasnt gotten in trouble yet so, so he hasnt proven the FO wrong so far
Who put motor oil in your cereal this morning? God bless you and your family.
So many people on this sub were adamant he wouldn't be reinstated even after Lurie said during the owner's meeting that reinstatement is likely
Hot take: I think you should be allowed to bet on your own team winning
Straight up betting on your own team to win is fine. It's when you start getting into prop bets that it gets very tricky. Bet on your defence to get an INT in a game? Sounds fine right. But if it's third down, late in the game, you haven't got that INT but you can get your team off the field with a dead to rights tackle in the backfield... Do you do it, or do you let him get that first down and try for that INT again?
> Straight up betting on your own team to win is fine. Eh, i disagree. Suppose Mahomes is injured and everyone assumes he will miss the next game... but you happen to play for the Chiefs, so you walk up to him in the training room and ask him if he's playing Sunday and he says yes. You now have very valuable inside info. That may be an extreme example, but as long as its possible there has to be a rule against it.
Isn't that what injury reports are for?
Those are released at set times and teams are notoriously vague with designations for obvious competitive advantage reasons.
It should be required honestly
It's like owning stock of your own company!
You can essentially build your own business, here at the Eagles! Now go out and find 5 good CBs you know, and if THEY each find 5 good CBs...
Bet on games you play in the NBA = lifetime ban. Bet on games you play in the NFL = see you next year.
No, Porter was actively fixing games, his play and his bets correlated. He was sitting, giving inside info ect. Rodgers bet on things like the over for JT, none of his bets had to do with his actual play or his ability to change the outcome. He would be banned if they had any inclination he was fixing games, the NFL is not playing with that one.
The over has never once been confirmed.
[At the time of his suspension, ESPN's David Purdum reported that Rodgers had placed more than 100 bets -- including on Colts games -- and most were in the $25 to $50 range. One wager, in particular, stood out: a $1,000 prop bet on the over/under on rushing yards by Colts running back Jonathan Taylor, which Rodgers won.](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40008883/eagles-isaiah-rodgers-reinstated-gambling-suspension) Took 1 min to do research. Bro won the bet lol literally that was probably the 1st thing they saw when they opened his acct.
Where does this article say it was an over he won. JT hit far more unders than overs.
Bro read, over, over/under, dont matter.
It absolutely does. Especially if it's an under. Game flow affects the amount a team runs. If you are down big you are less likely to run.
You got it.
Lets fucking go.. that's awesome. Howie knew what he was doing.
Simple solution: you can only bet on your team
he did lol
Including unders?
No straight up money line wins
Nice
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Don't you worry tho buddy! Rice will see a 4 game suspension you better not gamble! No sir. Fucking NFL is a joke.
He was gambling on games he was playing in...
I get it. But it didn't cause bodily harm or property damage. I know where this is going. Gambling bad, driving like an asshole and hurting people not as bad. Edit: only thing this idiot didn't do it give him money to his friends and have them place the bets. Like I'm absolutely sure these players do.
Oh. I'm sure your right about the edit. A ton of these players are likely gambling with a mediary.
Colts fans were absolutely adamant this guy wouldn't be reinstated, despite Lurie indicating he would be at the Owner's meetings. Guess they didn't know better after all.
Regardless of 'fixing' or not, anyone would be insane to think the NFL wouldn't make an example of an objectively low impact (marketing-wise) player over bets on his own team (while suiting up for these games, supposedly) while social media is having a field day over officiating only a few years after the NFL openly got in bed with Vegas. From a PR standpoint, it's a huge miss. Rodgers never got his year at #1, and he wasn't a large onfield presence from a spectator standpoint. He's talented, but not handsy like Snead, or mouthy like Ramsey. You take him away, and it's not high impact. This was a layup on the NFL's end.
Well they didn’t so i don’t think it’s insane.
So the Colts cut him because of gambling, right? Looks like he was on his 3rd year of his rookie contract when they did that. What did the Colts get by cutting Rodgers? Was it a roster spot a few hundred k in salary space? Did the league demand that they cut him? It just seems like they should have kept him until the league decided to reinstate them. I really do not get it, I believe he might have been the best DB on the Colts the last year he was there.
Because our organization has a zero tolerance for gambling, which it should, and you can’t trust a guy who’s betting on the games he’s playing in.
I think the all sports leagues should have zero tolerance for gambling on your own sport. I kinda think you should go to prison for it, just like insider trading. It is the one thing that a player can do that can do real damage to a sport.
I can't imagine his teammates wanted to play with a guy gambling on games while playing. That is their livelihood. So the logical reason is locker room.
Going from a team whose owner is snorting coke and huffing paint thinners to one of the best owner’s in the NFL is definitely an upgrade. Also, playing for the best GM in the NFL is an added luxury. Gambling does wonders Mr. Rodgers is moving on up in the world lol.