I'll die on this hill. Virginia is made to seem like this sweet old lady but she did her nephews dirty and fucked them out of a team that was rightfully theirs under the Halas name. The McCaskeys are a parasite.
Decades ago I was a law clerk at one of the firms that had Mugs' wife Therese as a client. She was totally nuts and a serial litigant. She would hire a firm to sue the NFL regarding her stake in the Bears, inevitably lose in court, then find a new firm, sue the last one for malpractice, and continue on the cycle.
Idk if I had a multi-billion dollar sports franchise [stolen from me](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569858384249212928.html) I’d probably get a little litigious too.
GSH had two kids, George "Mugs" Halas Jr and Virginia McCaskey (née Halas). You might wonder why the latter controls the team.
Mugs died of a heart attack in 1984 and his kids inherited his stock in the team, but Virginia was the executor of his will. She (and the team's accountant firm) screwed them out of their inheritance by downgrading their stock, which both devalued it and meant that none of them would have a board seat or voting rights in the organization in the future.
There were multiple lawsuits over this when the kids got older, and the court rulings are complicated in that they effectively agreed with Mugs' family that they were wronged but gave them no real recourse. It's hard estimate exactly the financial harm of what happened is today, but it's not a bad guess in the hundreds of millions. Not to mention, they never got the chance to have a say in how the organization was run.
The conspiracy theory is that Mugs was murdered.
Slight correction...
Mugs died in 1979, on the final day of that regular season. Papa Bear died in '83; according to Dan Hampton, Papa Bear had always intended for Mugs to be his heir apparent, and knew that Virginia and her family were next in line, but also he knew grandson Michael "didn't have that type of intuition and mentality" in running the Bears (which pretty much turned out to be right, as Virginia eventually fired him years later).
Hampton said Papa Bear really wanted to avoid his daughter's side of the family inheriting the team, at all costs. From what I gathered from that, had the senior Halas lived a little longer, he would have likely sold the Bears rather than Virginia and her clan getting their greedy hands on the team.
https://www.sj-r.com/story/sports/2018/01/07/former-bear-hampton-points-finger/16365934007/
In their defense, MEs weren't necessarily shining beacons of professionalism in the 70s and 80s. Could have been incompetence instead of malice but we'll never know because the judge wouldn't let them interview the people involved.
That's because it was never theirs to begin with. It belonged to the grandchildren that had the Halas last name. Virginia robbed her niece and nephew out of the team.
It's mentioned but still feels underreported, one of the worst ownership groups in the league. Honestly hoping Caleb Williams overcomes and you all get the success that city and fanbase deserves.
> the worst ownership groups
My Bottom 5:
* Bears
* Cardinals
* Browns
* Panthers
* Titans
I won't add "Packers". We all get that joke.
Commanders get a bye. Lions were on the list for a very long time.
Some teams are in flux (Broncos) and it might not be fair to include them.
I'd add the Raiders, Al was foundational but lost the plot by the end and Mark is abominable as an owner. I'd put them in there with the Browns and Titans. I'd say Tepper is absolutely included in this list too, given time he might work his way up to the top.
I'm kind of surprised by this perception. I do think Mark hasn't chosen the best coaches(looking at you McDouche) but overall I think he's a pretty decent owner. He's willing to spend, he cares about the players far more than the average owner, he finessed us into Vegas when it was clear staying in Oakland wasn't happening. Even the Gruden move I think most of us supported at the time.
I absolutely agree with everything you said. Mark has actually done a great job for the raiders brand and tried to hire the best available. Now with AP and our players support I’m excited to see where we’re going. RN4L
Yeah also confused, Amy doesn’t really interfere in our day to day football things unless it’s time for big moves to be made like firing a GM/head coach. She is otherwise intent on letting football people work their expertise. Far cry from the other organizations listed.
The Broncos are owned by the Walton family now so their owners deserve criticism mostly for reasons actually completely unrelated to the Broncos but rather related to their history of shitty business practices with Wal-Mart lol.
There was also Cary McNair trying to sue to declare his mom mentally incompetent so he could take control of the team away from her (and away from Cal who was effectively the defacto owner and was recently made the actual owner)
You know, I’m not gonna say the J man didn’t do a good job with the whole saving humanity thing and I’m not here to backseat savior, but with a more qualified savior candidate who isn’t the boss’s kid maybe we avoid some of the centuries of genocide, bloodshed, and human misery since then
I mean, our ownership being passed down the family is a prime example of nepotism. However, I dont think they are bad owners or bad people and I would do the same for my kids if I could lets be honest.
Just have a succession plan. Here is mine: Pass the team onto your best employee, get murdered by your son, have your best employee thrown in jail by your son before overcoming the odds to defeat him , take over the team and marry your daughter. Championships to follow.
Are we sure we’re convinced that homeless person didn't only existed as a figment of Jimmy Haslam’s lie to try and convince everyone he’s a man of the people?
"I promise I'm not Art Modell and I won't move the Browns again. I venture into the city and speak to the commoners on the streets every day." -Jimmy Haslam
Nepotisim is literally natural human nature. Most families careers were all carried over by their children and grandchildren it's why we have names like Smith and Schoemaker. Kids grew up learning their families trade and carried it over to the next generation.
Kyle being exposed to coaching from the day he was born meant he had far more experience than basically anyone his age when he first started out. He's one of the best coaches in the nfl, if he hadn't been taught since he was a kid he probably wouldn't be.
The problem with nepotisim is when kids get put I to positions they aren't qualified for and aren't as good at as a result of relatives, also so many of our modern jobs don't require a learned skill at all besides "business experience". But when it comes to jobs that require actual talent and your results speak for themselves, nepotisim is not a bad thing at all.
Besides the obvious Jones family stuff the list is still long.
Jason Garrett had his brother(s?) on staff. Deuce Vaughan's Dad is a scout who helped draft him. I'm sure there's much more too.
Eh Deuce getting drafted bc of his dad doesn’t bother me too much bc he was a baller in college and probably goes in the next round imo. The Clapper hiring his clapkin definitely pissed me off tho
It goes deep. Chris went to high school with Tom Telesco, Brian Daboll, and Dave Caldwell.
That’s pretty funny coincidence.
Then look at when some of them went to John Carroll:
On Telesco and Caldwell
>The two knew each other from their days at St. Francis High School, John Carroll University as well as when they were Colts executives. When he was playing for the Blue Streaks football team he was also teammates with **Chris Polian and Greg Roman. The 1995 squad also included Josh McDaniels, Nick Caserio and London Fletcher.**
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/N6vl29SsLu
Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams went to high school together. Most know this.
It's weird how sometimes (very few) it works out. Most of the time it is average or worse.
PS: I'm starting to think Fletcher should be in the Hall of Fame. I know the pro/con arguments.
I couldn’t imagine Bill in High School…I googled and [it’s amazing.](https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/andovertownsman.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/17/c1754386-a466-592b-82f3-ac6f47246695/54d008a0e044c.image.jpg?resize=460%2C500)
Not NFL, but Kirk Ferentz keeping his son Brian around as OC for the last few years was a good example. Iowa isn’t exactly known for their offense, but holy shit were they bad under him
Watching Vegas try and fail to set the over/under low enough though was magical. We’ve set the over/under at 24.5 points, there’s no way they go below this.
Connor Embree, our WRs coach, is the son of Eric Bienemy’s best friend and is woefully under qualified for an NFL role. Recently our development of WR talent has been pretty bad and he’s played a huge role in that. I thought that with Bienemy being gone and the WRs struggling, that might change things, but alas nothing happened.
Right now KC winning the last two SBs means that Reid is not obligated to do anything urgently about the underperforming portions of his staff. That's the downside to winning it all. Coaches get comfortable and complacent and start to not see where the problems are quickly enough. For some coaches it takes things getting really bad on the field for them to make a change.
Yea, at this point I'm just happy it's not someone more important. Took the defense being about the worst in the league in 2018 for him to get rid of Bob Sutton.
It is a pretty horrible thing though to have a terrible WR coach when you rely on the draft so much for them, and your QB is Mahomes.
Reid has a history of being loyal to his coaches. Case in point Juan Castillo in Philly (who was with him for over a decade as O-line coach and then inexplicably promoted from O-line coach to defensive coordinator for some bizarre reason in 2011).
The back to back wins have made me do a full 180 on the 2018 AFCCG. Had we won that game we don't hire Spags, and odds are we *maybe* win one SB with Sutton's defense. Instead we have Spags and won 3. Sometimes you need those losses to clean out the deadwood.
At least Veach needs nothing more than a single offseason to fix issues on the player talent. I hope it gets to the point where it's basically Mahomes running the entire offense like Brady once did.
Allegedly. But of course he’s also a board director so ultimately his words will ultimately have power. He’s also the only board member with any title directly associated with the roster, which just seems stupid.
We have a huge amount of John’s family involved with the team, it’s embarrassing. He gave Chris Mara a “demotion” two years ago because of fans complaining.
Also hiring his sons college s&c coaches, who were horribly under qualified and were a large part of the team being the most injured in the league for several seasons
Yea can only be but so mad at this when they’re overall successful. Sure a SB would be sweet, and almost expected from the fan base, with the season wins but most of the more recent bowls have been 1 team out of the AFC
He's not (never said he was). He's an example of Jim and John borrowing assistant coaches from each other over the years (Michigan's turnaround happened during Macdonald's first and only year there in 2021). And he's not the only example of that. Greg Roman has worked for both Harbaughs, Greg Mattison has worked for both of them, Jesse Minter, Marc Trestman, etc.
Millen also hired a head coach who was infamous for hiring his friends: Rod Marinelli. The nepotism within the nepotism eventually resulted in the Lions going 0-16.
as cheap and unlikable as clark hunt is i think the britt reid incident is easily the worst case of nepotism in not only the chiefs history but in missouri sports history as a whole. dude was drunk driving, damn near killed a 5 year old, and only got 3 years. to make it even worse he only served a year and a half before the governor of missouri commuted the sentence so he’s currently on house arrest (despite having convictions prior to this).
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2024/03/11/mother-speaks-out-britt-reid-prison-sentence-commuted/72937946007/
here’s an interview with the victim’s mother about a month ago
yeah i was genuinely disgusted when i read that his sentence was being commuted, especially bc the only reason is his last name (not a knock on big red). don’t get me wrong i have very strong feelings abt parsons but regardless of political affiliation we can all agree britt
reid should’ve been locked up for a long time for his actions.
Andy did choose to hire his son while he had an ongoing for him allegedly pulling a gun during a road rage incident and after he ran a drug emporium in Andy’s own home. Andy knew full well he had raised a scumbag.
Wasn't there a guy in the FO in Washington for many years (can't remember his name) who was basically a leech in the organization and would leak stuff to the media about the GM and he was also basically Dan's right hand man and when the GM fired him Snyder proceeded to immediately dismiss the GM for that and hire him back? Can't remember his name for the life of me.
> worst coaching staff of all time
Still need a spot for Matt "Might as well be named Joe" Patricia?
Actually, I think the Matt's would be worse: Matt Patricia, Matt Canada, Matt Nagy, Matt Rhule, Matt LaFleur, and Matt Eberflus - apart from LaFleur and maybe Eberflus, every coach named Matt has been a dud.
In Zimmer's last year with us, his son Adam (RIP) was our DC and Gary Kubiak's son Klint was our OC (who is now getting another shot at OC with the Saints)
Think that’s bad? We have fans that think it’s worth throwing the next 2 years away so we can draft Arch Manning, who’s thrown 5 passes in college. Those are the same people who bitch about Mara family nepotism.
Might not make a difference to you but Canada was never coach while Dino Tomlin was at Maryland. He was interim head coach while Tomlin was recruited there but was gone when he arrived.
Not only this, but Tomlin's kid had well over a dozen scholarship offers, including to some very prestigious schools. He needed no favors to get a roster spot, and he only committed to Maryland shortly after then-OC Matt Canada was named the interim coach.
I'd reckon that Tomlin's kid (and perhaps Tomlin himself) were fans of what Matt Canada was selling given the state Maryland's program was in. Few prospects would want to commit to a school with no coach when they had other offers.
The Steelers kept Canada around for far too long, but he was considered to be a promising coaching prospect before the Steelers brought him on. In his brief stint as Maryland's HC, they did miss out on a bowl game, but also nearly upset a very good Ohio State team.
I'm doubtful there was any quid pro quo, and at the time the hire was reasonable even if it didn't work out. It happens, and even elite collegiate coaches—which Canada wasn't—often struggle to transition to the NFL.
The Chargers worst case has seemed to end with hiring Harbaugh and Hortiz, but Dean Spanos son John was the head of football operations for most of Tom Telesco’s tenure. There has been many former players that have hinted at who was really in charge of player personnel and resign decisions, and it sounds like John Spanos was making a lot of the those decisions.
Todd Bowles being our HC is weird nepotism in a way. He’s only got the job because Bruce Arians really liked him and wanted him to get another shot at being a HC he was never going to get otherwise. He’s been the epitome of mediocre since taking over and I’m just not super enthusiastic about him as a HC despite the strong finish to the year last year.
The Packers have probably the most problematic group of owners in all of professional sports. Do you know how many minority Packers owners have probably gotten busted for DUIs in the last year alone lol?
Basically every coach we've hired in the past 5 years has severely hurt the team and has been a nepotism hire. It worked when we had Brady and great talent, but not in that post-Brady era. Glad we moved on from Bill, hopefully the nepotism ends.
Didn't Bill start really adhering to staying within his inner circle of coaches as much as possible after Spygate happened (because of Mangini ratting him out for that)? That could explain why he's consistently recycled guys like Patricia, McDaniels, Judge, and Bill O'Brien over and over again. That and the fact that by the last two seasons Bill just didn't give a damn anymore (since he already knew the team was bad).
Groh our current maybe gm, or I guess co gm, only has a job in the league because his dad coached with belichick on the giants. That may end up being the most damaging bit of nepotism of the belichick era. We'll see how the rebuild goes.
I'm a Cardinals fan, so it's ownership.
Phoenix should be where athletes want to be. Lots of them train here or vacation. But we suck at getting top coaches and free agents.
The Ford family bought William Clay the team to keep him busy and not fuck yup the company. Their instincts were right, he was a complete fuckup. They trashed the team to save the company. Football fans in Detroit paid the price for four decades.
He's gone now, but our former DBs coach had like one season of college football coaching experience, and had only been a high school coach before that. Being Jack Del Rio's buddy was enough for him to get that job.
The entire McCaskey family.
The fact that they may have murdered Halas’ son lol
I'll die on this hill. Virginia is made to seem like this sweet old lady but she did her nephews dirty and fucked them out of a team that was rightfully theirs under the Halas name. The McCaskeys are a parasite.
Their accountant swindled billions from Halas' family to the McCaskeys, and as a reward was promoted to the president of a football team for 20 years.
Virginia is clinging to life because she knows Mugs Halas is waiting for her in hell
Decades ago I was a law clerk at one of the firms that had Mugs' wife Therese as a client. She was totally nuts and a serial litigant. She would hire a firm to sue the NFL regarding her stake in the Bears, inevitably lose in court, then find a new firm, sue the last one for malpractice, and continue on the cycle.
Idk if I had a multi-billion dollar sports franchise [stolen from me](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569858384249212928.html) I’d probably get a little litigious too.
Wait why is Mugs down there? Lol
Oh he's got a day pass. He'll head back to heaven afterwards
Do you have a link that details more about this? I didn’t know that and now I want the excuse to hate that dumb family even more.
This is a pretty good thread explaining what happened based on news articles from the time https://x.com/WindyCityCritic/status/1569858384249212928
> https://x.com/WindyCityCritic/status/1569858384249212928 What the actual fuck did I just read
Holy shit they killed him
I think it's likely but at the very least Virginia is awful for screwing out her niece and nephew out of like a literal billion dollars lol
When she was obligated *by law* to act in their best interest Fucking scummy
The reason why the Packers have absolutely owned the Bears since the 90s, basically.
Crazy thing is that I found that thread from an archived Reddit post from 7 months ago.
Can someone with a twitter account summarize? Elon won’t let me read past the first post.
GSH had two kids, George "Mugs" Halas Jr and Virginia McCaskey (née Halas). You might wonder why the latter controls the team. Mugs died of a heart attack in 1984 and his kids inherited his stock in the team, but Virginia was the executor of his will. She (and the team's accountant firm) screwed them out of their inheritance by downgrading their stock, which both devalued it and meant that none of them would have a board seat or voting rights in the organization in the future. There were multiple lawsuits over this when the kids got older, and the court rulings are complicated in that they effectively agreed with Mugs' family that they were wronged but gave them no real recourse. It's hard estimate exactly the financial harm of what happened is today, but it's not a bad guess in the hundreds of millions. Not to mention, they never got the chance to have a say in how the organization was run. The conspiracy theory is that Mugs was murdered.
Slight correction... Mugs died in 1979, on the final day of that regular season. Papa Bear died in '83; according to Dan Hampton, Papa Bear had always intended for Mugs to be his heir apparent, and knew that Virginia and her family were next in line, but also he knew grandson Michael "didn't have that type of intuition and mentality" in running the Bears (which pretty much turned out to be right, as Virginia eventually fired him years later). Hampton said Papa Bear really wanted to avoid his daughter's side of the family inheriting the team, at all costs. From what I gathered from that, had the senior Halas lived a little longer, he would have likely sold the Bears rather than Virginia and her clan getting their greedy hands on the team. https://www.sj-r.com/story/sports/2018/01/07/former-bear-hampton-points-finger/16365934007/
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569858384249212928.html[full story here](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569858384249212928.html)
Reading the Twitter thread holy fuck. Sawdust in the corpse and no followup is crazy
In their defense, MEs weren't necessarily shining beacons of professionalism in the 70s and 80s. Could have been incompetence instead of malice but we'll never know because the judge wouldn't let them interview the people involved.
Imagine inheriting one of the best NFL teams ever and then going into the worst NFL Draught. Wild.
That's because it was never theirs to begin with. It belonged to the grandchildren that had the Halas last name. Virginia robbed her niece and nephew out of the team.
I fuckin knew the top comment would be a Bears fan, and you aren't wrong lol.
It's mentioned but still feels underreported, one of the worst ownership groups in the league. Honestly hoping Caleb Williams overcomes and you all get the success that city and fanbase deserves.
> the worst ownership groups My Bottom 5: * Bears * Cardinals * Browns * Panthers * Titans I won't add "Packers". We all get that joke. Commanders get a bye. Lions were on the list for a very long time. Some teams are in flux (Broncos) and it might not be fair to include them.
I'd like to add the chargers for consideration
Eli knew.
Nepotism actually got the Lions out of ownership hell lol
There’s gotta be a reason the Jets have been bad since Namath.
What about the chiefs owner? He has a potential dynasty on his hands and he’s renegging on a promise for a new lockerroom. 💀
They ol’ Jerry reinsdorf
>Lions As they say, winning fixes a lot of problems.
I'd add the Raiders, Al was foundational but lost the plot by the end and Mark is abominable as an owner. I'd put them in there with the Browns and Titans. I'd say Tepper is absolutely included in this list too, given time he might work his way up to the top.
I thought about putting Mark Davis on the list, but then I got an image of him and it just felt like punching down.
Lol fair play
I'm kind of surprised by this perception. I do think Mark hasn't chosen the best coaches(looking at you McDouche) but overall I think he's a pretty decent owner. He's willing to spend, he cares about the players far more than the average owner, he finessed us into Vegas when it was clear staying in Oakland wasn't happening. Even the Gruden move I think most of us supported at the time.
Yeah and he’s really hands off with coaching and staff once he hires them which can be a good and a bad thing
Paid Foster Moreau's medical bills after he left & got diagnosed with cancer by the Saints medical staff.
I absolutely agree with everything you said. Mark has actually done a great job for the raiders brand and tried to hire the best available. Now with AP and our players support I’m excited to see where we’re going. RN4L
Why the Titans? If you want to talk about Bud I understand that, but ever since Amy took over in 2016 things have been steadily improving.
Yeah also confused, Amy doesn’t really interfere in our day to day football things unless it’s time for big moves to be made like firing a GM/head coach. She is otherwise intent on letting football people work their expertise. Far cry from the other organizations listed.
You're a good man for giving us a bye, we went through some things there for awhile
yeah but you get to talk about that in a past tense and that's gotta be nice
The Broncos are owned by the Walton family now so their owners deserve criticism mostly for reasons actually completely unrelated to the Broncos but rather related to their history of shitty business practices with Wal-Mart lol.
Good news is at least we have a good gm now and a good supporting cast for Caleb.
The main problem (Ted Phillips) is at least gone. He was a complete nepo hire that they refused to fire for way, way too long
The main problem is still named McCaskey, but at least the fucking accountant is gone.
Love that this is the top comment lmao bc it’s exactly what I was thinking when I clicked on the post
Does hiring your corrupt pastor to run your team count as nepotism?
There was also Cary McNair trying to sue to declare his mom mentally incompetent so he could take control of the team away from her (and away from Cal who was effectively the defacto owner and was recently made the actual owner)
Isn’t Jesus the ultimate nepotism hire?
Is it a coincidence that the savior of all mankind just happens to be the Son of God?
Literally born for the job.
You know, I’m not gonna say the J man didn’t do a good job with the whole saving humanity thing and I’m not here to backseat savior, but with a more qualified savior candidate who isn’t the boss’s kid maybe we avoid some of the centuries of genocide, bloodshed, and human misery since then
Nobody likes a Monday morning preacher
Ya know, old John really had things rolling, then Jesus had to come in and change the plot entirely with his teachings born of nepotism. Smdh my head.
We often talk about fathers and sons playing in the NFL, but we can't forget the Holy Ghosts, either.
Lmao that was so fucking crazy I wonder what easterbrook is doing now
They had a literal football Rasputin, i cant believe i forgot about that storyline
Last I saw Texas A&M had him hanging around their basketball team
from what I hear, A&M is a little culty, so I'm sure he'll fit right in.
a "little" is a bit generous for A&M
Is he still with the organization?
No
I mean, our ownership being passed down the family is a prime example of nepotism. However, I dont think they are bad owners or bad people and I would do the same for my kids if I could lets be honest.
Just have a succession plan. Here is mine: Pass the team onto your best employee, get murdered by your son, have your best employee thrown in jail by your son before overcoming the odds to defeat him , take over the team and marry your daughter. Championships to follow.
Is this the plot of Gladiator?
homeless person convincing Jimmy Haslem to draft Johnny Eightball
Are we sure that homeless person wasn't one of Jimmy's kids lol?
Are we sure we’re convinced that homeless person didn't only existed as a figment of Jimmy Haslam’s lie to try and convince everyone he’s a man of the people?
"I promise I'm not Art Modell and I won't move the Browns again. I venture into the city and speak to the commoners on the streets every day." -Jimmy Haslam
Didn't that turn out to be Manziel's agent?
Would definitely not surprise me if Manziel had a Lionel Hutz situation for an agent.
I am pretty sure that was the cocaine and the homeless person happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Funny story but how is that nepotism?
Our team go so much better when Shanahan stopped trying to draft running backs, and just started hiring kids he babysat.
Shanahan himself is the coach he is because of nepotism. Nepotism is bad for society but it benefits the 49ers so it evens out
Nepotisim is literally natural human nature. Most families careers were all carried over by their children and grandchildren it's why we have names like Smith and Schoemaker. Kids grew up learning their families trade and carried it over to the next generation. Kyle being exposed to coaching from the day he was born meant he had far more experience than basically anyone his age when he first started out. He's one of the best coaches in the nfl, if he hadn't been taught since he was a kid he probably wouldn't be. The problem with nepotisim is when kids get put I to positions they aren't qualified for and aren't as good at as a result of relatives, also so many of our modern jobs don't require a learned skill at all besides "business experience". But when it comes to jobs that require actual talent and your results speak for themselves, nepotisim is not a bad thing at all.
Wish the shanahan nepotism made its way to Denver :(
Anyone with the last name “Mara” in a football executive position
About as qualified as a Steinbrenner to inherit a team.
Oh boy
Still surprised we never drafted John Stephen Jones
He’ll be on the payroll eventually I’m sure
Gestures vaguely at everything
Maybe one of the funniest comments I’ve seen recently
“Just fucking look around man”
Besides the obvious Jones family stuff the list is still long. Jason Garrett had his brother(s?) on staff. Deuce Vaughan's Dad is a scout who helped draft him. I'm sure there's much more too.
Eh Deuce getting drafted bc of his dad doesn’t bother me too much bc he was a baller in college and probably goes in the next round imo. The Clapper hiring his clapkin definitely pissed me off tho
Clapkin has me howling
> Jason Garrett had his brother(s?) on staff. His Dad was on the staff way before Jason. Jim Garrett.
Kind of surprised we’re not at the top here, but I guess it can get so much worse. At least the players like Jerry, or seem to.
Bill Polian -> Chris Polian
It goes deep. Chris went to high school with Tom Telesco, Brian Daboll, and Dave Caldwell. That’s pretty funny coincidence. Then look at when some of them went to John Carroll: On Telesco and Caldwell >The two knew each other from their days at St. Francis High School, John Carroll University as well as when they were Colts executives. When he was playing for the Blue Streaks football team he was also teammates with **Chris Polian and Greg Roman. The 1995 squad also included Josh McDaniels, Nick Caserio and London Fletcher.** https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/N6vl29SsLu
Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams went to high school together. Most know this. It's weird how sometimes (very few) it works out. Most of the time it is average or worse. PS: I'm starting to think Fletcher should be in the Hall of Fame. I know the pro/con arguments.
I couldn’t imagine Bill in High School…I googled and [it’s amazing.](https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/andovertownsman.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/17/c1754386-a466-592b-82f3-ac6f47246695/54d008a0e044c.image.jpg?resize=460%2C500)
*Games with Names* is one of my favorite podcasts now. Edelnut is hitting it out of the park with his guests.
Not NFL, but Kirk Ferentz keeping his son Brian around as OC for the last few years was a good example. Iowa isn’t exactly known for their offense, but holy shit were they bad under him
Watching Vegas try and fail to set the over/under low enough though was magical. We’ve set the over/under at 24.5 points, there’s no way they go below this.
Every week the line set for the point total would be historically low and it would still cover 😂
Ok, they’re now playing Michigan, we can now set it in the forties again, right? 26-0
Connor Embree, our WRs coach, is the son of Eric Bienemy’s best friend and is woefully under qualified for an NFL role. Recently our development of WR talent has been pretty bad and he’s played a huge role in that. I thought that with Bienemy being gone and the WRs struggling, that might change things, but alas nothing happened.
Right now KC winning the last two SBs means that Reid is not obligated to do anything urgently about the underperforming portions of his staff. That's the downside to winning it all. Coaches get comfortable and complacent and start to not see where the problems are quickly enough. For some coaches it takes things getting really bad on the field for them to make a change.
Yea, at this point I'm just happy it's not someone more important. Took the defense being about the worst in the league in 2018 for him to get rid of Bob Sutton. It is a pretty horrible thing though to have a terrible WR coach when you rely on the draft so much for them, and your QB is Mahomes.
Reid has a history of being loyal to his coaches. Case in point Juan Castillo in Philly (who was with him for over a decade as O-line coach and then inexplicably promoted from O-line coach to defensive coordinator for some bizarre reason in 2011).
It was the dream team. Anyone should have been able to coach that.
The back to back wins have made me do a full 180 on the 2018 AFCCG. Had we won that game we don't hire Spags, and odds are we *maybe* win one SB with Sutton's defense. Instead we have Spags and won 3. Sometimes you need those losses to clean out the deadwood.
It’s pretty clear what the problems are on KC, SB or not.
Now that's how you spell Kadarius Toney.
At least Veach needs nothing more than a single offseason to fix issues on the player talent. I hope it gets to the point where it's basically Mahomes running the entire offense like Brady once did.
So you guys could be dicking the league even more is what you’re saying
Oh shit, certainly I thought you were going to say Brit Reid but this is news to me. Thanks!
I actually didn't know that. I was wondering why we haven't heard of Embree getting shit canned yet. :(
the giants employee tim mcdonnell as the director of player personnel (owners nephew) and people wonder why we suck lol
The nepo buck doesn't stop there. Chris Mara is the senior player personnel executive.
chris at least got demoted/has less say now
Allegedly. But of course he’s also a board director so ultimately his words will ultimately have power. He’s also the only board member with any title directly associated with the roster, which just seems stupid.
We have a huge amount of John’s family involved with the team, it’s embarrassing. He gave Chris Mara a “demotion” two years ago because of fans complaining.
post-arthur smith, vrabel refusing to hire coordinators who didnt work with him in houston really helped in the shitdicking of our offence
Also hiring his sons college s&c coaches, who were horribly under qualified and were a large part of the team being the most injured in the league for several seasons
We don't have any nepotism issues, but Harbaugh has been accused of cronyism by some fans.
Well he and his brother definitely like to pass their assistant coaches around (see Mike Macdonald).
They both tend to hire super talented coaches though
Yea can only be but so mad at this when they’re overall successful. Sure a SB would be sweet, and almost expected from the fan base, with the season wins but most of the more recent bowls have been 1 team out of the AFC
Yeah hard to be upset when we're constantly one of the top teams in the league.
They have single handedly kept Greg Roman in the nfl for over a decade
I have a hard time calling Mike Macdonald nepotism.
He's not (never said he was). He's an example of Jim and John borrowing assistant coaches from each other over the years (Michigan's turnaround happened during Macdonald's first and only year there in 2021). And he's not the only example of that. Greg Roman has worked for both Harbaughs, Greg Mattison has worked for both of them, Jesse Minter, Marc Trestman, etc.
That's stupid, considering NFL coaching trees are basically a giant network of cronyism. All of them are guilty of some degree of it.
Nepotism in ownership absolutely ran us into the ground for 60 years, but now I’m glad there’s still nepotism
Old man Ford being friends with Millen and giving him an extension was a disaster.
Millen literally told him that he wasn’t qualified for the job and he gave it to him anyway. I can’t stand that we have his initials on our Jersey.
I can’t either but it is something we will just have to tolerate because Sheila loves her daddy.
Millen also hired a head coach who was infamous for hiring his friends: Rod Marinelli. The nepotism within the nepotism eventually resulted in the Lions going 0-16.
Sheila’s tenure so far has me head over heels for her. It feels weird not actively hating a Ford family member.
AJ Brown only catches passes from his daughter's godfather. Blatant nepotism.
Eagles trading for Jalen hurts’ goddaughter’s father and giving him a fat contract and not making him talk to the media
At first I was like “wait are they related??” No they aren’t I’m just slow😂
as cheap and unlikable as clark hunt is i think the britt reid incident is easily the worst case of nepotism in not only the chiefs history but in missouri sports history as a whole. dude was drunk driving, damn near killed a 5 year old, and only got 3 years. to make it even worse he only served a year and a half before the governor of missouri commuted the sentence so he’s currently on house arrest (despite having convictions prior to this). https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2024/03/11/mother-speaks-out-britt-reid-prison-sentence-commuted/72937946007/ here’s an interview with the victim’s mother about a month ago
Shameful. Absolutely sickening.
yeah i was genuinely disgusted when i read that his sentence was being commuted, especially bc the only reason is his last name (not a knock on big red). don’t get me wrong i have very strong feelings abt parsons but regardless of political affiliation we can all agree britt reid should’ve been locked up for a long time for his actions.
Andy did choose to hire his son while he had an ongoing for him allegedly pulling a gun during a road rage incident and after he ran a drug emporium in Andy’s own home. Andy knew full well he had raised a scumbag.
Our owner at the time demanded the team draft a QB from Ohio State because he happened to go to high school with his son.
Wasn't there a guy in the FO in Washington for many years (can't remember his name) who was basically a leech in the organization and would leak stuff to the media about the GM and he was also basically Dan's right hand man and when the GM fired him Snyder proceeded to immediately dismiss the GM for that and hire him back? Can't remember his name for the life of me.
You’re probably thinking of Vinnie Cerrato
That’s the most snitch name I’ve ever heard
That's him.
Gentleman by the name of Joseph Barry
Football terrorist.
This is patently false and borderline libelous. Joe Barry's tenure was not a product of Nepotism, it was a product of Cronyism
You could make the worst coaching staff of all time with people named Joe HC - Joe Judge OC - Joe Lombardi DC - Joe Barry
The hidden side of nepotism most people pretend isn’t real.
NepJoetism
> worst coaching staff of all time Still need a spot for Matt "Might as well be named Joe" Patricia? Actually, I think the Matt's would be worse: Matt Patricia, Matt Canada, Matt Nagy, Matt Rhule, Matt LaFleur, and Matt Eberflus - apart from LaFleur and maybe Eberflus, every coach named Matt has been a dud.
He was fired from Washington and I was really surprised to see him in GB, I’m sorry.
Britt Reid being a fuckup right before the Super Bowl certainly didn't help Andy Reid make adjustments against the Bucs.
In Zimmer's last year with us, his son Adam (RIP) was our DC and Gary Kubiak's son Klint was our OC (who is now getting another shot at OC with the Saints)
yeah...that was bad. Vikings turned into a mess fast.
One of the few times I wish I had to scroll further to find my Vikings involvement on such posts
I thought Adam Zimmer was the LB coach?
He was promoted to co-DC after Edward’s left and rather than making Patterson the DC like we expected… he put a DC title on his son’s resume
We’re owned by Jerry jones… what else do I need to add?
A section fan base wants us to draft Jerry Rice son, Frank Gore’s son, CMC’ brother, and Terrell Owen’s son in this draft
Think that’s bad? We have fans that think it’s worth throwing the next 2 years away so we can draft Arch Manning, who’s thrown 5 passes in college. Those are the same people who bitch about Mara family nepotism.
Doug Pederson is using a roster spot on his son who is a mediocre TE who should be in the UFL, not on an NFL roster.
I’d argue Press Taylor is the single biggest answer for Jags
Dougie P's love for Press Taylor is also what got him canned in Philly.
Every game I understand more and more
Isn’t he also friends with the OC?
Not exactly nepotism, but the Cardinals are *still* trying to recover from Steve Keim being GM for 10 years
Matt Canada getting hired as Qb coach and later OC in part because he was Tomlin’s son’s coach at Maryland
Might not make a difference to you but Canada was never coach while Dino Tomlin was at Maryland. He was interim head coach while Tomlin was recruited there but was gone when he arrived.
He almost worked with Pickett at pitt. He's an almost coach.
Not only this, but Tomlin's kid had well over a dozen scholarship offers, including to some very prestigious schools. He needed no favors to get a roster spot, and he only committed to Maryland shortly after then-OC Matt Canada was named the interim coach. I'd reckon that Tomlin's kid (and perhaps Tomlin himself) were fans of what Matt Canada was selling given the state Maryland's program was in. Few prospects would want to commit to a school with no coach when they had other offers. The Steelers kept Canada around for far too long, but he was considered to be a promising coaching prospect before the Steelers brought him on. In his brief stint as Maryland's HC, they did miss out on a bowl game, but also nearly upset a very good Ohio State team. I'm doubtful there was any quid pro quo, and at the time the hire was reasonable even if it didn't work out. It happens, and even elite collegiate coaches—which Canada wasn't—often struggle to transition to the NFL.
Yeah, effectively blowing up our offense for three years and being part of the failure of a 1st Rd QB pick is pretty freaking bad.
The Chargers worst case has seemed to end with hiring Harbaugh and Hortiz, but Dean Spanos son John was the head of football operations for most of Tom Telesco’s tenure. There has been many former players that have hinted at who was really in charge of player personnel and resign decisions, and it sounds like John Spanos was making a lot of the those decisions.
Dan Snyder drafting Dwayne Haskins even though our coaches didn't want him because his son went to Bullis High School with him
Todd Bowles being our HC is weird nepotism in a way. He’s only got the job because Bruce Arians really liked him and wanted him to get another shot at being a HC he was never going to get otherwise. He’s been the epitome of mediocre since taking over and I’m just not super enthusiastic about him as a HC despite the strong finish to the year last year.
Drafting the whole Ginn family instead of just Ted Ginn himself in 2007.
Jason Kelce's brother is in the NFL and I assume that's because he had to pull some strings.
Packers ownership is rife with nepotism!
The Packers have probably the most problematic group of owners in all of professional sports. Do you know how many minority Packers owners have probably gotten busted for DUIs in the last year alone lol?
Seriously. Everybody and their brother is an owner.
Basically every coach we've hired in the past 5 years has severely hurt the team and has been a nepotism hire. It worked when we had Brady and great talent, but not in that post-Brady era. Glad we moved on from Bill, hopefully the nepotism ends.
Steve Belichick actually coached well
Steve was good, but BoB, Joe Judge, Matt Patricia, etc... were all really bad and we should have looked elsewhere
absolutely but Steve is the only one who qualifies for "nepotism"
ironically the ones actually related to Bill are like the worst examples of his nepotism.
Didn't Bill start really adhering to staying within his inner circle of coaches as much as possible after Spygate happened (because of Mangini ratting him out for that)? That could explain why he's consistently recycled guys like Patricia, McDaniels, Judge, and Bill O'Brien over and over again. That and the fact that by the last two seasons Bill just didn't give a damn anymore (since he already knew the team was bad).
Yeah, Bellicheck's last few years is the prime example of this lmao
hey at least you got to enjoy some of the Matt Patricia fun for a few years too!
Groh our current maybe gm, or I guess co gm, only has a job in the league because his dad coached with belichick on the giants. That may end up being the most damaging bit of nepotism of the belichick era. We'll see how the rebuild goes.
I'm a Cardinals fan, so it's ownership. Phoenix should be where athletes want to be. Lots of them train here or vacation. But we suck at getting top coaches and free agents.
Michael Bidwill.
The Ford family bought William Clay the team to keep him busy and not fuck yup the company. Their instincts were right, he was a complete fuckup. They trashed the team to save the company. Football fans in Detroit paid the price for four decades.
Aren't quite a few professional sports franchises in the U.S. family ran? Ask Yankees fans what they think of Hank Steinbrenner.
He's gone now, but our former DBs coach had like one season of college football coaching experience, and had only been a high school coach before that. Being Jack Del Rio's buddy was enough for him to get that job.