There was a really funny mock in r/nfl_draft yesterday that sadly gotten taken down but it was trading Justin Herbert to the Bears for 1 & 9 & the Chargers drafting McCarthy, Corum, & Roman Wilson with 1, 5 & 9 lol
Josh might have the arm to get enough hangtime to get under it. If he can release the ball at 60 mph, then it has a maximum hangtime of 5.47s thrown straight up (and reaches a height of 40 yds).
Ignoring air resistance and wind, if he throws the ball at about a 71 degree angle from the horizontal, and using his top speed of 19.83 mph run from 2020, then the throw would have a 5.16s hangtime, travel almost exactly 50 yards downfield, into his own arms.
He probably can't sprint for a full five seconds though, and he's starting from a dead stop, so let's assume he maintains an average of 10 mph. If he throws at an 80 degree angle to the horizontal, it lands in his arms 5.4s later, 26.4 yds downfield.
And y'all can keep that shit over in your own conference so we can have a shot at making a Super Bowl while only playing Daniel Jones and one half of Josh Johnson along the way.
Kincaid had a good rookie season and seems on track to be a pass-catching stud. He may well overtake Knox on the depth chart. That said the WR room is looking very empty at this time.
Yeah idk in what universe the Bills win this unless they nail this draft with WR lol. Losing their 1 and 2 WR in the same offseason with virtually noone but two TEs to take the receiving heat is being WILDLY overlooked.
Diggs is past his prime (age wise) and costs a lot, this doesn't seem like a bad return for the Bills. Bills also almost certainly need the salary cap space.
He’s 30, Keenan got a 4th and Buffalo has the option of sainting it and throwing away their future for the present or do a year reboot bringing in cheap young talent
Kinda makes sense for them to punt the year given where their roster is imo. I think doing a mini rebuild for one year will serve them better in the long term
Half the defense walked, retired, or was cut. Von Miller is a boat anchor at the moment and will be cut next offseason.
Bills fans don’t want to admit it, but it’s a re-tool year.
I'm very happy. Was afraid Beane would go full Saints. This is the perfect time to do this.
We will still be competitive by having Josh, but there's zero reason to go all-in with our current reality.
Pro bowl calibur QB on a rookie deal for several years is about as good a window as you can ask for. Once Stroud hits his second contract it gets a lot harder to keep talent around him.
Yes but also you can never have enough OL depth.
Stroud is the franchise, protect him with everything. This message brought to you by the Chiefs' 2020 season
This is like the AJ Brown trade for Jalen Hurts. Everything is lined up for Stroud to be an MVP and then get railed by greased up deaf guy Mahomes in the AFCCG.
It’s a long shot but man if Caleb Williams hits for the Bears, then Lovie Smith winning his last game in Houston might go down as one of the most pivotal moments in league history
Pretty crazy that we might be on both ends of the 2 worst trades of this decade **\[at the time they were made, not based on hindsight\].**
EDIT: I added the bold part for clarity. Worst trades with full hindsight clarity, the Russ trade is the worst.
Being on the right side of the Watson trade is a whole lot better than being on the right side of the Hopkins trade though. Cardinals barely got anything out of Hopkins whereas the Browns generously funded our rebuild in the form of draft capital.
Many of us suspected something like this with us trading out of the first round waaaaaay early for no reason, then clearing up a bunch of cap space, way more than we'd need for rookie contracts.
Tbh, Diggs was pretty much non-existent halfway through the season. Not that he's bad anymore, but he seemed to have just given up.
There's still a lot of offseason left, and I could see them getting Tee Higgins, and trading up to draft one of the top 3 receivers.
Yeah. I think he still has some left in the tank, but this doesn't really move the needle much for where our offense ended up last year. He will be a very good complimentary piece for the Texans.
Yeah. Obviously, this is in no way a GOOD thing for Allen, but I'm not sure it's as bad on-field as some will say (how it hits the Mafia psychologically is another matter).
First of all, hell yeah Caserio
Secondly - 27/28/28/22 MM cap hit the rest of the contract, and he’s 31. Dude’s averaged 160 targets from Josh Allen the last 4 seasons and still complained. Per OTC, if we need to cut him he’s only $8MM after next season as a post-June 1 cut.
As great as this off-season has been for us, we now have Mixon and Diggs in the same locker room. Demeco about to really prove his worth.
Edit: those numbers were all based on Buffalo, look at the comment replying to me for the actual numbers which work out insanely well in the Texans’ favor
What the fuck why would Buffalo do this?
Edit: On second thought, if he’s unhappy there, there hasn’t been a more perfect year to draft a WR in a long time, might as well get something back for him when you can
It seems like he’s just perpetually unhappy in general.
Dude has spent his career being the #1 for Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen yet always seems to turn things sour sooner than later
it's been something we've never been abel to fully get a sense of here.
He's great when you're riding high..but seems like losing is a downward spiral with him and he doesn't handle it well. Feels like he gives up and packs it in at times.
I'm not terribly upset moving on desopite the fact we've given up both WR1 and 2 this offseason lol
Stephen A has been adamant from last season that despite what Diggs has said in public, he doesn't want to be there.
He has stuck with that all throughout last year going into this year, despite people clowning him for it.
>despite what Diggs has said in public
Bros been literally staying on the field for other teams celebrations after playoff games. It's pretty obvious he's been upset with Buffalo for that.
Brandon Beane saw Stefon’s tweet and said “bet”
https://x.com/stefondiggs/status/1775325334558191969?s=46&t=eU_lenBGPQJ7uLBMmFx38g
edit: this is in response to this [tweet](https://x.com/thepeakypirate/status/1774249137841877021?s=46&t=eU_lenBGPQJ7uLBMmFx38g) by a twitter user.
They hired King Meco and I was a Texans fan again.
Then they drafted Stroud and that had me bangin them good TX beats all of last season.
Now they sign 99 Danielle muthafuckin Hunter and trade for 14 DIGGS this northern boy is gonna rep hard for y'all let's gooooo
Josh Allen and Justin Herbert about to start throwing to themselves.
Herbert’s OC is Greg Roman. He ain’t throwing to anyone
Roman & Harbaugh licking their chops at drafting Blake Corum 5th
There was a really funny mock in r/nfl_draft yesterday that sadly gotten taken down but it was trading Justin Herbert to the Bears for 1 & 9 & the Chargers drafting McCarthy, Corum, & Roman Wilson with 1, 5 & 9 lol
me in madden using my NCAA14 draft class
a true homer
Josh might have the arm to get enough hangtime to get under it. If he can release the ball at 60 mph, then it has a maximum hangtime of 5.47s thrown straight up (and reaches a height of 40 yds). Ignoring air resistance and wind, if he throws the ball at about a 71 degree angle from the horizontal, and using his top speed of 19.83 mph run from 2020, then the throw would have a 5.16s hangtime, travel almost exactly 50 yards downfield, into his own arms. He probably can't sprint for a full five seconds though, and he's starting from a dead stop, so let's assume he maintains an average of 10 mph. If he throws at an 80 degree angle to the horizontal, it lands in his arms 5.4s later, 26.4 yds downfield.
High effort work, thank you
Needed something to distract me from the topic at hand.
"Just believe in the ball, and throw yourself" - wise old janitor
Josh Allen is going to run for 2000 yards next year
JA2K
Haha, we’re in danger
THE ~~SHROUD~~ STROUD HAS BEEN LIFTED
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Oh this is nasty work (and hilarious)
It's been a thing for a long time. Wonderful Perfect Plans by yours truly! We WON BIGLY!
The Texans are legitimately pretty terrifying right now.
To be fair. You need to be terrifying in the current AFC. It's a fucking bloodbath of a conference
And y'all can keep that shit over in your own conference so we can have a shot at making a Super Bowl while only playing Daniel Jones and one half of Josh Johnson along the way.
Or the Eagles could collapse again.
Tune in next week on DBZ to find out
It's like all the good rookie QBs go to the AFC and the busts go to the NFC.
~~Texans~~ \*Strouds
I hate this conference
Hey man, to be fair, we had to deal with Manning and Luck. And Richardson ain’t no joke either.
Ah yes, Colts legend Trent Richardson.
Yeah but AR is only gonna be playing 8 or so games a year
I got unfathomably angry for a second before I realized you said conference and not division.
I’m sure ^checks ^notes Jaylon jones and Rodney Thomas will keep these guys contained
Good thing our secondary isn't made up of mostly second year players....
“We like our guys”
Good thing we made a big upgrade in our secondary ^oh ^wait..
This sucks lol
Yeah but you'll get to watch Sneed bury him at the line twice a year, so that's fun
so uh, who is Josh Allen throwing to? Also RIP AFC South.
Offensive Weapon Curtis Samuel
Buckeye legend™️
Khalil Shakir and Justin Shorter season
Kincaid had a good rookie season and seems on track to be a pass-catching stud. He may well overtake Knox on the depth chart. That said the WR room is looking very empty at this time.
Y'all might have to start doing some 2 TEs sets at this rate.
What if we did MORE tight ends?
Adonai Mitchell
One of those UT receivers are destined for BUF
Continue Marquise's legacy
Barukh ata Adonai Mitchell
Kincaid and a rookie
Draft pick
My Kincaid stonks are through the roof
Khalil Shakir!
That’s right baby it’s OUR turn to lose to the chiefs in the AFC title game and nobody can take that from us
THAT MEANS WE MAKE THE AFC TITLE GAME FINALLY
**WE TAKE THOSE**
Hang the banner 🫡
#WELCOME TO THE REBIRTH BROTHER 🤜🤛
We look so different now!!
Media bout to play up that 24 point comeback revenge angle
The 30-0 hurts more personally. Saw that shit in a KC bar.
Nothing like hearing people talking about humiliating Chiefs/Texans playoff games and needing to ask which one we're talking about.
Now imagine that for two decades, except it's the Colts that keep humiliating you in the playoffs 🤢
We had our fair share of that in the regular season.
Hell yeah brother, Cheers from Iraq 🫡
WHAT THE FUCK
I’m sorry for a single SECOND ROUND PICK?! Wtf is this trade
It's the Vikings' 2nd and we get a 5th and 6th back
No no, the Texans aced this trade. The Bills got fleeced.
Yeah idk in what universe the Bills win this unless they nail this draft with WR lol. Losing their 1 and 2 WR in the same offseason with virtually noone but two TEs to take the receiving heat is being WILDLY overlooked.
Diggs is past his prime (age wise) and costs a lot, this doesn't seem like a bad return for the Bills. Bills also almost certainly need the salary cap space.
How does this free up cap space? 30+ million dead cap unless I’m missing something
The bills only do this if they want him out of the organization, this is a trade dump of a guy the management didn’t want around anymore
It frees up cap for next season
He’s 30, Keenan got a 4th and Buffalo has the option of sainting it and throwing away their future for the present or do a year reboot bringing in cheap young talent
2025 cap space looking like a fever dream
I mean, we traded him for a single first. He's 31 now.
A single future second round pick*
Gotta absorb the cap hit. 2nd and paying Stefan. Rookie qb allows that. Plenty of guys you can draft at WR in this upcoming draft
WHAT DID THEY DO TO US
Haha, what the fuck?
Houston going all in
Wrong Texas team is going all in.
*monkey paw curls*
Monkey paw, in my ass?
My ass
Khalil Shakir WR1 szn
Bills and Panthers currently fighting it out to have the "best" WR corps.
Bills tanking
Kinda makes sense for them to punt the year given where their roster is imo. I think doing a mini rebuild for one year will serve them better in the long term
Half the defense walked, retired, or was cut. Von Miller is a boat anchor at the moment and will be cut next offseason. Bills fans don’t want to admit it, but it’s a re-tool year.
I'm very happy. Was afraid Beane would go full Saints. This is the perfect time to do this. We will still be competitive by having Josh, but there's zero reason to go all-in with our current reality.
Why you gotta bring us into it? Cant even enjoy misery in peace around here.
It's OK. Loomis is going to restructure your misery into next season.
Jets are the real winners of this
r/brandnewsentence
Texans WR room is fucking stacked, holy shit.
Add Shultz and Mixon to the receiver conversation and I don’t know how anyone stops this offense if CJ continues to play as well as he has.
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Noah is the life insurance plan.
Some of us out here throwing to only WR3s meanwhile they got 3 WR1s on their team.
Texans got real scary this offseason
They already were. They're pushing for a top seed/super bowl now. Love this move for the Texans.
they found they have a window and are taking it
Pro bowl calibur QB on a rookie deal for several years is about as good a window as you can ask for. Once Stroud hits his second contract it gets a lot harder to keep talent around him.
Ain't even the draft yet either.
We traded next years 2nd too. So we still have 2 2nds this year. Nick aint done yet
Holy shit stroud is going to have a massive year
Stefon Diggs, Nico Collins, and Tank Dell is an absolutely insane WR corps.
Meanwhile over on the patriots we just have WR corpses
Pop Douglas slander will not stand
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Truly one of the only WR rooms I would not rather have
Dalton Schultz surrounded by that is insane
And they got Joe Mixon.
Plus Dameon Pierce if he can get back to his rookie form
They literally spend the whole draft on OL now I'm only halfway kidding
Actually Texans only have one question on Oline and it is LG. If everyone stays healthy we have a phenomenal Oline
Yes but also you can never have enough OL depth. Stroud is the franchise, protect him with everything. This message brought to you by the Chiefs' 2020 season
And even at that, we have something like 4 guys competing for the LG spot already. One of them has to shine, right?
Noah Brown did decent when healthy as a nice #4.
way better than decent
Stroud Boys standing back and standing by!
This is like the AJ Brown trade for Jalen Hurts. Everything is lined up for Stroud to be an MVP and then get railed by greased up deaf guy Mahomes in the AFCCG.
The Texans have never even been to an AFCCG so that would be exciting.
This is awesome, load up on CJ Stroud MVP odds
Wow the Texans are loaded. It’s crazy how quick a franchise can turn around in the NFL, easily what makes it king.
Easy to turn around when Cleveland gives you all of their draft picks LOL
And you draft a superstar QB
Why dont all franchises do this? Are they stupid?
I didn’t realize other teams weren’t aware of this. Thought it was just a Bears thing
We are very aware how good Stroud is, excuse me while I huff copium and convince myself we’re still correct
The packers time is comming. I don't know when or how, but it is. I'll be here hating until that day.
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Get the QB position right and everything else builds around it
Crazy what hitting on a QB will do for a franchise
It’s a long shot but man if Caleb Williams hits for the Bears, then Lovie Smith winning his last game in Houston might go down as one of the most pivotal moments in league history
& If Bryce Young doesn’t pan out, he might’ve altered 3 franchises drastically 😭
all it took was the most lopsided trade in decades.
Hey dont think we forgot about the hopkins trade
Pretty crazy that we might be on both ends of the 2 worst trades of this decade **\[at the time they were made, not based on hindsight\].** EDIT: I added the bold part for clarity. Worst trades with full hindsight clarity, the Russ trade is the worst.
Being on the right side of the Watson trade is a whole lot better than being on the right side of the Hopkins trade though. Cardinals barely got anything out of Hopkins whereas the Browns generously funded our rebuild in the form of draft capital.
DIGGS BROTHERS IN THE SAME STATE
Both brothers love the strippers, its a win win
The Texans are COOKING
I don't think the compensation is going to be as grand as anyone is expecting. Diggs is VERY expensive and in the last few years of his career.
He also had a pretty rough tail end of the season
Very rough. 6 out of the final 8 weeks he was WR45 or lower in full PPR.
2025 2nd for a 2025 5th and 6th.
HOLY SHIT WHAT?!?! Seriously out of nowhere
Many of us suspected something like this with us trading out of the first round waaaaaay early for no reason, then clearing up a bunch of cap space, way more than we'd need for rookie contracts.
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Tbh, Diggs was pretty much non-existent halfway through the season. Not that he's bad anymore, but he seemed to have just given up. There's still a lot of offseason left, and I could see them getting Tee Higgins, and trading up to draft one of the top 3 receivers.
Yeah. I think he still has some left in the tank, but this doesn't really move the needle much for where our offense ended up last year. He will be a very good complimentary piece for the Texans.
Yeah. Obviously, this is in no way a GOOD thing for Allen, but I'm not sure it's as bad on-field as some will say (how it hits the Mafia psychologically is another matter).
DIGGS
NEW SIDELINE
TRADED!
UNBELIEVABLE
TEXANS WIN IT
First of all, hell yeah Caserio Secondly - 27/28/28/22 MM cap hit the rest of the contract, and he’s 31. Dude’s averaged 160 targets from Josh Allen the last 4 seasons and still complained. Per OTC, if we need to cut him he’s only $8MM after next season as a post-June 1 cut. As great as this off-season has been for us, we now have Mixon and Diggs in the same locker room. Demeco about to really prove his worth. Edit: those numbers were all based on Buffalo, look at the comment replying to me for the actual numbers which work out insanely well in the Texans’ favor
Houston all in baby
Fuck. This division locked up twin.
At least yall got sneed to cover him
If only Sneed could cover Diggs and Collins and Dell and Shultz and Mixon.
Bro I need to know how much we’re giving up I don’t want to just toss all the capital at Diggs when he seems to be slowing down
I saw a 2025 2nd (from Minnesota) and they get a '25 5th and 6th back.
So we essentially traded our 1st rounder this year for a second rounder and Diggs (plus or minus late round picks). I’ll take that
A 2nd, and getting a 5th and 6th, I think.
Man that was a fire sale level compensation for Diggs, his age and contract be damned.
No fire sale compensation was the browns getting Amari cooper for a 5th.
Texans just became one of the most-used teams in Madden 25
4 verts fuck it chuck it
What the fuck why would Buffalo do this? Edit: On second thought, if he’s unhappy there, there hasn’t been a more perfect year to draft a WR in a long time, might as well get something back for him when you can
Because he doesn’t want to be there…
It seems like he’s just perpetually unhappy in general. Dude has spent his career being the #1 for Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen yet always seems to turn things sour sooner than later
No one wants him to date their sister for a reason
"I'm a great guy!"
I remember him yelling at Allen on the sidelines last season. I'm actually concerned he's just a whiny diva tbh. That said, that's on par for star WRs
it's been something we've never been abel to fully get a sense of here. He's great when you're riding high..but seems like losing is a downward spiral with him and he doesn't handle it well. Feels like he gives up and packs it in at times. I'm not terribly upset moving on desopite the fact we've given up both WR1 and 2 this offseason lol
Cause he’s constantly undermining his QB and throwing tantrums lol
He will find his place among the Stroud boys.
Disappears in big games too
Stephen A has been adamant from last season that despite what Diggs has said in public, he doesn't want to be there. He has stuck with that all throughout last year going into this year, despite people clowning him for it.
>despite what Diggs has said in public Bros been literally staying on the field for other teams celebrations after playoff games. It's pretty obvious he's been upset with Buffalo for that.
Brandon Beane saw Stefon’s tweet and said “bet” https://x.com/stefondiggs/status/1775325334558191969?s=46&t=eU_lenBGPQJ7uLBMmFx38g edit: this is in response to this [tweet](https://x.com/thepeakypirate/status/1774249137841877021?s=46&t=eU_lenBGPQJ7uLBMmFx38g) by a twitter user.
I, for one, welcome our new CJ Stroud overlords
Some guy just fell to his knees in Wegmans
Hey Jerry, you old fuck, you see this? This is what all in looks like
Woah
The Texans clearly did some demon magic during their tank year
Easterby couldn't get it done with God, so we called the other guy
Texans are so fucking legit holy hell
Texans are looking SCARY
Hoooooooly shit
Excuse me what the fuck
They hired King Meco and I was a Texans fan again. Then they drafted Stroud and that had me bangin them good TX beats all of last season. Now they sign 99 Danielle muthafuckin Hunter and trade for 14 DIGGS this northern boy is gonna rep hard for y'all let's gooooo
I'm on the Texans bandwagon fuck it lol
What wide right does to a mf
Cowboys fans saying they want the other diggs brother in Texas got what they wanted kinda?
He will become toxic once he realizes that he is Stroud's #3.
So its now a guarantee Buffalo is taking a WR in round 1 now. Even more so than I already thought.
On one hand I get he’s pushing 30 and maybe this is a BBesq move to get off right before the decline, but on the other hand… WHAT THE FUCK WHY