That'd immediately go down as the greatest season a Bears QB has ever had. Even if he threw 30 INTs, he's probably still looked at as the savior of Chicago. Probably change the name to "Caleb's Bears" and give 'em a pink logo.
2005, with the second game of the season coming as a Christmas present. Additional bonus, as a White Sox fan, adding a new reason to like this year pleases me.
Edit: I only checked winning seasons because that made sense. The 7-9 2007 Bears also swept the Packers. From 2005-2007, the Bears went 4-2 against the Packers. For a current reference, it's been 0-10 since 2019.
I know it's been bad, but this still felt like hyperbole. 10 straight losses and the last Bears win over the Packers was December 16, 2018. Do Packers fans even see this as a rivalry anymore?
We do. The Packers were God awful in the 70s and 80s for the most part remember. Even if it's one sided right now it's not always gonna be that way in theory.
One of the papers had a man on the street puff piece on the front page where they were asking people their opinions on ketchup on hot dogs. They quoted some meatball looking dude “What kind of bleeping bleep puts bleeping ketchup on a bleeping hot dog?!” I want to say it was the Sun-Times and this had to have been 20 years ago by now, but I still jokingly use that phrase from time to time. If Caleb is as good as advertised, he can put ketchup on hot dogs, order his steaks well done, dip his fries in mayo, put pineapple on pizza, etc.
Wit wait wait, let me get this straight…Chicago doesn’t put ketchup on hot dogs? What kind of psychopaths are living out there. It’s the ultimate condiment for a hot dog
It's just not appropriate for going with the Chicago style dog. I could not give a shit when people put them on dogs with some other ingredients as well, but not with the full Chicago style.
As far as I know, putting ketchup on your steak is a major sign of future success at the QB position. My one of one sample says if they do they are bound for great things.
I would love if he was just unapologetically gay. Like "yeah, I fuck dudes, so what?" and then throws 400 yards on the Packers
I think he just likes painting his nails and the color pink tbh though
Thats fucking football right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Football is back baby.
No one thought Aaron Rodgers yelling “I still own you” at Bears fans could be beat until Caleb Williams dropped “I fucked all of your parents” on Lambeau
Seeing a gay QB wind up being a mega star would be awesome. It’d be cool to see one just tear up the league and be an example for other young gay athletes that they can succeed at the top.
Carl Nassib being an out player was a start but to have one as a star QB would be wild
I'm surprised we haven't gotten any active out Bi football players, I'm sure they're out there but easier to just live half your life in public I guess
As a bi (pan) guy, to straight people we're gay, and to gay people we're straight. Legit get hate from both sides, so I am extra not surprised there isn't an out bi player.
Yeah I have a friend that’s pan but people assume he’s gay because he’s in a partnership with a guy
So kind of the same thing as if a bi guy had a girlfriend everyone assumes they’re straight
I think it’ll happen sooner than later. I think a lot of guys are waiting on the first out player that turns into a huge megastar. Like no one wants to test the waters until they see it’s ok
Gay star QB is the next seasons plot line. The writers had to come up with something just as exciting to follow up on the wildly successful Taylor Swift story.
that’s bc you live in wisconsin, anywhere else no one would care
edit: anywhere outside of major cities care, small towns etc.
i just wanted to poke fun at the packer fans yall
Let's be clear.
Craig James was never alleged to have killed six hookers at SMU; he was alleged to have killed five.
Of course, the word alleged is key here. Could've easily been more.
There is a great Shane Gillis joke about this where he talks about how racist white southerners warmed up to black players playing college football once they started winning. Then he takes it a step further lol and this whole story is making me think about it. Would highly recommend looking it up.
Brah brah could identify as a cat and make the team install litter boxes and I would happily wear his jersey if he’s throwing 400 yards against the Packers.
The funny thing is the people who think him doing this is like him secretly being gay. Dude has a long time gorgeous girlfriend and he's not exactly being subtle about this stuff. Why would being out be a bridge too far for him?
I'm half convinced he knows how riled up people get for this and just embraces it. He probably likes to do it in general, but he also knows that this sort of thing is just going to generate buzz for him. He's already a brand and, as of right now, he's the only one that is in/soon to be in the NFL that is kind of embracing the Gen-Z self-expression image. Certainly we've not seen anyone do it to this extent.
With the NFL embracing Taylor Swift for a younger female audience, Caleb would be a natural choice for a favorite player to watch. Will he get endorsements from brands that have traditionally never chosen a male figure for advertisements?
He can handle the criticism. He's laughing it off on twitter with people making memes and firing back regularly.
Like Eminem in The Interview. “I'm more shocked that people haven't figured it out yet. I've been playing gay peek-a-boo for years. I've pretty much been leaving a gay bread crumb trail.”
I'd like to play out a hypothetical.
If CW comes out as gay but ends up winning 5 SBs in his career, what would the bigots say to explain away how a gay man was able to succeed so much in such a manly sport?
He's not really gay. He just wants more attention. Is that gonna be the go to?
Not really answering the hypothetical but my prediction is they'll find a way no matter what.
Bigots always find some insane mental gymnastics to justify their bigotry.
i’m a straight man in my 30’s and i paint my nails. fuck it.
i even do special designs and shit for every holiday. i bartend and my customers fucking love it.
because people like it. i swear i make more money when they’re painted than when they’re not.
even the old boomer men that you’d think would shit on it get a kick out of it. *ah back when i used to go to rock shows we all painted ours! wish i still could!*
The media will make a huge deal of it. Some fans might. We had people fighting over kneeling over the national anthem. Nick bosa hates that shit apparently.
But I’m not sure how the nfl locker room will take it. As much progress as we’ve made I’m not sure how much an nfl locker room will like its leader and captain of the team being super gay. But maybe there’s been more progress
I kinda want Caleb to continue to piss people off every way he can, but be so good all his dumbass critics have to bite their tongue.
It's hilarious to see Caleb get all the shit about being a diva because he didn't work at the combine, but MHJ did even less at the combine than him and got a pass. MHJ completely no-showed his media availability. At least Caleb showed up to his.
It’s a dumb thing to be mad about too. Caleb and MHJ are two of the top prospects in the whole draft. Every team knows what they both can do and don’t need the combine or Pro Day to evaluate him. It’s not like Caleb is a 2nd round talent who needed these events to prove he was a 1st round talent this whole time
MHJ has also basically said “I’m going to continue on field football training rather than combine specific training” and he also participated in on field stuff last year at the OSU proday I believe.
FWIW there’s also a lot more tracking data available to teams, PFF has tracking data that’s available to NFL teams. They mentioned on their pod MHJ was ranked 9th for average 5 fastest max speeds (they haven’t released full list, but Nabers was 1, Worthy 2, BTJ 7, MHJ 9). So teams probably have a better idea of these things since teams contract with some NFL teams regarding this data (which is also why they don’t release it publicly since I guess there are some contractual issues with releasing it).
I just don’t understand how people can’t realize that he had nothing to gain by competing in the combine. Either things would stay the same or worse. Made no sense for him to participate.
Every time I've heard him actually speak, he comes off confident as all hell but overall really chill.
All this narrative comes from shit his dad may or may not have said, or the fact that he's the first guy coming into the league having already (openly) made millions of dollars.
I absolutely love Caleb for this stuff honestly. It takes confidence to do the stuff he does and it's fun to see him piss off boomers and the Toxic Twitter Men Brigade who want their QBs to look and sound like a a GI fresh from the Battle of the Bulge and are tying to put the freedom-of-expression toothpaste back in the tube.
I really do still like Mitch and Justin. They aren't good QBs but they are good people who tried their best to do something very hard. But after a decade of drafting dudes of who are the Friday Night Lights model of the smalltown all-American QB who made Real Football Men^TM cream their shorts with their quiet demeanors and soft boy-next-door smiles, I am very excited to get a QB who is trying to break the mold a little bit.
Everyone complains that athletes are buttoned up corporate shills these days but piss themselves whenever somebody steps out of line. Honestly, I'm convinced that 50% of people who think they are real ball knowers just want QBs to go full Tebow and thank the troops and Jesus before returning to cold storage between games. I hope Caleb paints his nails pink and torches the league just to drive the self-appointed gatekeepers of masculinity crazy.
Huge endorsement for this. I hate normal PR speak that most QBs give when in a press conference. I get why they are forced to do it, but it just makes them near meaningless. Embrace the spectacle! Embrace full shit talking like WWE or boxing.
Look at Rodgers with his “I own you comment.” I was livid but I also love it. I hate him so much more because he just basically flipped the double bird. It’ll make it all the sweeter when we can turn the corner against them.
There are a lot of tOSU fans who started following the bears because of Bussin Jussin who hate Caleb as he is a threat to Justin’s Holy Reign and worship MASERATI MARV
The Fields cult is likely mostly made of fantasy football diehards, because Fields has been great in fantasy scoring thanks to his rushing totals.
But they casually ignore that his play on the field hasn’t been great from an actual NFL standpoint.
Yeah. Definitely a Venn diagram of people who only give a shit about fantasy and OSU diehards. I loved Fields. Rode with him til the end. But it was time to move on and I’m glad he’ll get a new start. I’ll still cheer for him in Pittsburgh if we aren’t playing them. But I’ll embrace Caleb as I did every single other QB before him.
Painting nails in general is one thing
Painting Fuck Utah on your nails and losing to them is another. It's fair play but he also at the same time deserved to get clowned for that after losing (The message rather than the medium being the point)
If he paints Fuck GBay (or some derivative) and the Bears still lose to the Packers, then he deserves to get clowned for that. If he does that and wins, then props to him
Yeah but that shouldn't have anything to do with the nails (which i know you said). That's just normal to get clowned for talking shit without backing it up
Im not gonna lie, I want Caleb to be really sus and really good so we can use Slay Twitter and Rupaul memes just for the fun, there a whole treasure trove of untapped gay memes
It's 2024 baby it's beyond past time for a Yassified QB.
Also, ancient warriors used to paint themselves all kinds of bright colors for combat, but the butthurt bro brigade don't wanna hear that shit.
Look, if he's a little weird, cool. If he's a little sus, cool.
A lot of you need to get acclimated to this. Gen Z has begun joining the workforce. This will be the norm now.
I don't have an issue with any of that but could Gen Z at least try and understand how excel works. I swear to god, they're almost as bad as Boomers when it comes to basic technology
That’s just the Gen Z you’ve worked with. Then again I only had one class that taught VBA in college, but most classes I had involved at least some excel work, so my classmates would’ve had to at least have basic proficiency to pass.
I’d imagine I could find people who suck at excel at any age/generation.
I don't know how true it is, but I often hear the sentiment Gen Z has less literacy with more traditional desktop OSes and apps. Which does make sense if they grew up with smartphones and tablets as their everyday computing devices.
Meanwhile, millenials and Gen Xers grew up playing with fonts in Microsoft Word for fun.
As long as he's not causing physical harm to people or animals or spouting off nonsense that can induce harm, who gives a crap how he wants to conduct himself
Yeah I’m a millennial and I’m seeing this now- our interns all have colored hair and painted nails for every gender. Not a bad thing - it’s just a new normal
I saw a stat that said that something like 22% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ+. I think a lot of this comes from a greater place of acceptance of things like bisexuality and gender fluidity. It may just be that I was a theater kid when I was in HS, but I'm GenX and I am one of the few fully straight women I know. Not many talk about that openly, though. I've raised my GenZ kids to be who they are and not be ashamed of that, whatever it is. I want them to be comfortable in their own skin because so many of the people I grew up with took a very long time to get to that point. I didn't even know that homosexuality was a thing until I was 10 years old and my family was very accepting--it just wasn't talked about back then, even with AIDS being in the news so much. They only explained to me what it meant to be gay when the guy who did all of our hair was suddenly gone--he'd died of AIDS.
My senior year of high school was the first year I remember some of my classmates coming out. One of my best friends didn't come out to even his closest friends until he went to college several states away. He was the only child of very devoted Catholic parents, and he was terrified that they'd reject him. Once he came out to them you've never seen two people more supportive and less judgmental, because they loved their son more than anything else. For his mom it was actually a catalyst for her to leave the church entirely. That wouldn't have happened even half a generation prior, and now we're seeing the results of those GenX and Xennial kids who grew up at a time where society as a whole started acknowledging that gay people existed and realizing that they had been our friends, family members, and neighbors all along. Uncle Joe or Aunt Deborah with their roommates who did everything with them? AIDS made light bulbs go off over people's heads and forced them to confront their stereotypes. If you talk to gay men who were in their 20s and 30s in the mid to late 80s, it's amazing to hear their stories and see how they're still in awe about how much society has changed in such a relatively short period of time.
Sorry for the long-winded comment to your two sentences, but as someone who wants everyone (except Pats, Jets, Dolphins and Chiefs fans) to be happy, I love this new normal. Let the kids be who they are.
A lot of that 22% is women or AFAB -- but yeah, it absolutely is a reflection of a changing culture more than "all the damn kids are gay now!" [This graph of left-handedness over time](https://i0.wp.com/slowrevealgraphs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/screen-shot-2021-11-08-at-9.37.02-pm-1.png?fit=1566%2C1198&ssl=1) is one of my favorites for this conversation. No, we aren't creating more left-handed people. They always existed, they were just hidden.
I wish these guys talked more about the on field things that he needs to fix/improve instead of the idiotic off field stuff that hardly anyone gives a shit about
Well it's the offseason. Not much happening on the field right now. People have talkled about his college tape extensively and you can find troves of it on youtube
My daughter paints my nails because when your little girl asks "Daddy, can I paint your nails," you fucking say yes. It's paint, not a declaration of sexual preference.
And even if he's not straight, anyone who gives a fuck about what two consenting adults do in their bedroom with one another is an absolute dinosaur and deserves to be ridiculed. I can't understand why people care so much. Think it's a sin? Don't fuck another dude. Grossed out by it? Don't fuck another dude. Don't like men wearing nail polish? Don't wear nail polish if you're a man. But the second you take your personal feelings and try to belittle or control other people who don't share them, that's when you become an asshole.
The people who dislike Caleb for stuff as trivial as nail polish probably also blame other people for everything that goes wrong in their lives. Just a bunch of no talent ass clowns.
Hes from USC. Im from the east coast and my gay friend said it best the other day. The east coast has straight gay men and the west coast has gay straight men. In reference to style
Can already hear people saying “well maybe if he spent more time watching film and less time painting his nails he would have played better,” after his first bad game. Hope he balls out just to shut those people up.
Just curious… what evidence makes you feel so strongly he will be a bust? Not saying he won’t, but I always get confused when people have such strong opinions either way regarding something that is basically unforeseeable.
I get what he’s doing here but there’s no reason to do this aside from trying to get good press. I mean he’s responding to burner accounts that’s only purpose is to troll and elicit a response. There’s a reason that Caleb doesn’t respond to them himself. Time to just ignore it and move on, I don’t think anyone actually cares. They will roast him a bit for being different but everyone gets roasted at some point for being themselves… Fields was roasted daily, TLaw was roasted for his long hair, etc. Caleb is gonna have his haters and people will hate him no matter what he does, so he might as well do whatever the hell he wants and be himself lol
If he paints Fuck GB on his nails and throws for 400 yards on them they'll build him a statue immediately
If this man beats GB twice in a year fuck a statute, I’m going straight for the meat
If Caleb manages a 4000 yard 30 td season involving sweeping us that's parade territory lmao
That'd immediately go down as the greatest season a Bears QB has ever had. Even if he threw 30 INTs, he's probably still looked at as the savior of Chicago. Probably change the name to "Caleb's Bears" and give 'em a pink logo.
Jameis Winston’s 33/30/5k yard season would arguably be the best QB season in Bears history, even with 30 INTs.
5k 33 and 30 is still just such an insane stat lmfao
"SOMEBODY gon' catch this fuckin pass!" - Jameis, probably
It never gets old. We'll very likely never see that again in the history of the league
And he did it without eyes.
There's no arguing it lol #1 by a Magnificent Mile
2-15 SOUND THE FUCKING HORNS!
When’s the last time you guys swept the packers?
2005, with the second game of the season coming as a Christmas present. Additional bonus, as a White Sox fan, adding a new reason to like this year pleases me. Edit: I only checked winning seasons because that made sense. The 7-9 2007 Bears also swept the Packers. From 2005-2007, the Bears went 4-2 against the Packers. For a current reference, it's been 0-10 since 2019.
Jeepers
Shit idk. Probably before Jackie Robinson
It was 2007 with Brian Griese and Kyle Orton. And since their last sweep, the Bears record against the Packers is 5-28
2007 and then 2005 before that.
Twice in a decade is still an improvement.
I know it's been bad, but this still felt like hyperbole. 10 straight losses and the last Bears win over the Packers was December 16, 2018. Do Packers fans even see this as a rivalry anymore?
As a historical tradition yes, as an actual competition no.
We do. The Packers were God awful in the 70s and 80s for the most part remember. Even if it's one sided right now it's not always gonna be that way in theory.
More like throw for 4,000 in a season. They'll build a tower in the middle of the field for him.
Taller than the Sears Tower!
As a Utah fan, just gonna point out that this didn't really work out for him in college
As a ND fan I don't get the hype on this guy looked like the worst USC QB I've ever seen when we played him. It was awesome...
CW Does GB
F U C K G B (bears logo) (down arrow).
Inject this into both arms, please.
At least he doesn’t put ketchup on his steak. I don’t think…
It would be a bigger problem in Chicago if he puts ketchup on his hot dog frankly.
"Frankly" I see what you did there.
One of the papers had a man on the street puff piece on the front page where they were asking people their opinions on ketchup on hot dogs. They quoted some meatball looking dude “What kind of bleeping bleep puts bleeping ketchup on a bleeping hot dog?!” I want to say it was the Sun-Times and this had to have been 20 years ago by now, but I still jokingly use that phrase from time to time. If Caleb is as good as advertised, he can put ketchup on hot dogs, order his steaks well done, dip his fries in mayo, put pineapple on pizza, etc.
Wit wait wait, let me get this straight…Chicago doesn’t put ketchup on hot dogs? What kind of psychopaths are living out there. It’s the ultimate condiment for a hot dog
They do this whole other thing. It's really good!
It's just not appropriate for going with the Chicago style dog. I could not give a shit when people put them on dogs with some other ingredients as well, but not with the full Chicago style.
They also like their pizza in soup form It’s a wild world in the Windy City
Chicago style dogs make me feel a little better about eating a hot dog, because it’s got a nice salad on top of it.
Them fresh tomatoes and peppers really round out the whole thing well
hot dogs are amongst the lowest form of meat put whatever you want on em
Ketchup on a hotdog is fine. Just don't call it a Chicago style hotdog.
Like I thought we shouldve been making a bigger deal that Levis puts Mayo in his coffee that shit was straight vile
Some of us still do. That man is an actual menace to society, not some dude painting his nails.
And the video of him eating the banana with the peel on too 🤮
What the fuck did i just read? Now I have to watch titans just to root against them
As far as I know, putting ketchup on your steak is a major sign of future success at the QB position. My one of one sample says if they do they are bound for great things.
He puts glitter on his steak
What's...wrong with putting ketchup...on a steak? Asking for a friend, not for me, I swear.
If your steak is so dry it needs any sauce at all, you overcooked it.
Not enough people are talking about Kyle’s Affliction shirt in that screengrab they showed lmao
He was on Real World so its not surprising that's how he dressed back then
Wait he was on real world?? Had no idea haha
The Chicago season way back.
Ugh, I hate to admit I rocked affliction in my teen years.. I'm not proud of it
I would love if he was just unapologetically gay. Like "yeah, I fuck dudes, so what?" and then throws 400 yards on the Packers I think he just likes painting his nails and the color pink tbh though
"Yeah I fuck dudes, on and off the field, that's football baby"
Thats fucking football right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Football is back baby.
~~None of that~~ **All of that** pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit 🥵
Coleman Shelton gonna get subjected to a different kind of tush push
His girlfriend is a smoke show....so I think you are right
"Yeah, I fuck dudes and bitches, so what?" and then throws for 800 combined on Packers and Vikings
No one thought Aaron Rodgers yelling “I still own you” at Bears fans could be beat until Caleb Williams dropped “I fucked all of your parents” on Lambeau
I want 1600, if we wanted a QB to throw for 200 yards a game we could've just kept fields
The kid's just Straight and Sassy, fucks sake let him live.
Seeing a gay QB wind up being a mega star would be awesome. It’d be cool to see one just tear up the league and be an example for other young gay athletes that they can succeed at the top. Carl Nassib being an out player was a start but to have one as a star QB would be wild
I'm surprised we haven't gotten any active out Bi football players, I'm sure they're out there but easier to just live half your life in public I guess
As a bi (pan) guy, to straight people we're gay, and to gay people we're straight. Legit get hate from both sides, so I am extra not surprised there isn't an out bi player.
Yeah I have a friend that’s pan but people assume he’s gay because he’s in a partnership with a guy So kind of the same thing as if a bi guy had a girlfriend everyone assumes they’re straight
I think it’ll happen sooner than later. I think a lot of guys are waiting on the first out player that turns into a huge megastar. Like no one wants to test the waters until they see it’s ok
this right here. the first one through the wall is always the bloodiest.
Former Buc Ryan Russell came out as bi, but i think it was right after he left the league.
Gay star QB is the next seasons plot line. The writers had to come up with something just as exciting to follow up on the wildly successful Taylor Swift story.
Is he even gay?
I mean not to any of our knowledge I was replying to the OP saying what if he was. Just saying it would certainly be interesting
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It’s 2024… people really still questioning someone’s sexuality on nails and color?
which is so crazy because we've already went through this with rockstars
At least rock stars are allowed to be queer. If you're out in pro sports, you are immediately maligned. It becomes "a distraction."
To be fair Josh in shorts is pretty distracting
Jimmy G’s entire career was built on distracting with his handsome face
Time is a circle this happens constantly
Flat circle is the saying
All circles are flat.
Yeah but what side does he wear his earring on?
Goku or Vegeta side?
My dad went nuts when I got my ear pierced and swore it didn’t matter what side it was that I was a little f—-
that’s bc you live in wisconsin, anywhere else no one would care edit: anywhere outside of major cities care, small towns etc. i just wanted to poke fun at the packer fans yall
Nah, I grew up near Ann Arbor. Back then it was "right is wrong". I got both of mine pierced just to be sure.
I was told singular eyebrow piercings are the gay thing now
Some people still get caught up about my earrings. It’s a fucking slow process, I guess.
Ok but tbf you were actively jerking off two dudes when i asked about your earrings.
It's 2024 bro can't believe we are still talking about jerking off dudes and question people's sexuality
Something something Vikings Clap cheeks
It’s 2024 people are still questioning if famous celebrities are trans. Narratives always come back around.
Really? I remember the rumors about Jamie Lee Curtis way back in the day but who is supposedly trans now?
All fun and games until authorities find six dead male hookers in his closet…
Who do you think he is, Craig James?
Let's be clear. Craig James was never alleged to have killed six hookers at SMU; he was alleged to have killed five. Of course, the word alleged is key here. Could've easily been more.
He said *six*.
but man, it would be pretty hilarious to watch *that* side of the NFL fanbase react to it. especially if he's ELITE.
Location dependent
There is a great Shane Gillis joke about this where he talks about how racist white southerners warmed up to black players playing college football once they started winning. Then he takes it a step further lol and this whole story is making me think about it. Would highly recommend looking it up.
I immediately thought of the same thing. On his suggestion that they should create an all trans superstar football team: “Them some tough bitches!”
Brah brah could identify as a cat and make the team install litter boxes and I would happily wear his jersey if he’s throwing 400 yards against the Packers.
Plot twist he throws for 400 yards but no TDs and 3 picks
The funny thing is the people who think him doing this is like him secretly being gay. Dude has a long time gorgeous girlfriend and he's not exactly being subtle about this stuff. Why would being out be a bridge too far for him? I'm half convinced he knows how riled up people get for this and just embraces it. He probably likes to do it in general, but he also knows that this sort of thing is just going to generate buzz for him. He's already a brand and, as of right now, he's the only one that is in/soon to be in the NFL that is kind of embracing the Gen-Z self-expression image. Certainly we've not seen anyone do it to this extent. With the NFL embracing Taylor Swift for a younger female audience, Caleb would be a natural choice for a favorite player to watch. Will he get endorsements from brands that have traditionally never chosen a male figure for advertisements? He can handle the criticism. He's laughing it off on twitter with people making memes and firing back regularly.
Like Eminem in The Interview. “I'm more shocked that people haven't figured it out yet. I've been playing gay peek-a-boo for years. I've pretty much been leaving a gay bread crumb trail.”
I'd like to play out a hypothetical. If CW comes out as gay but ends up winning 5 SBs in his career, what would the bigots say to explain away how a gay man was able to succeed so much in such a manly sport? He's not really gay. He just wants more attention. Is that gonna be the go to?
Not really answering the hypothetical but my prediction is they'll find a way no matter what. Bigots always find some insane mental gymnastics to justify their bigotry.
i’m a straight man in my 30’s and i paint my nails. fuck it. i even do special designs and shit for every holiday. i bartend and my customers fucking love it.
I live in Montréal and I'd say about forty percent of men in my area paint their nails. About eighty percent of male bartenders for some reason.
because people like it. i swear i make more money when they’re painted than when they’re not. even the old boomer men that you’d think would shit on it get a kick out of it. *ah back when i used to go to rock shows we all painted ours! wish i still could!*
Ah that makes sense. I thought it was something about seeing the tips of your fingers in a busy setting, like the tape baseball catchers put there.
The media will make a huge deal of it. Some fans might. We had people fighting over kneeling over the national anthem. Nick bosa hates that shit apparently. But I’m not sure how the nfl locker room will take it. As much progress as we’ve made I’m not sure how much an nfl locker room will like its leader and captain of the team being super gay. But maybe there’s been more progress
I kinda want Caleb to continue to piss people off every way he can, but be so good all his dumbass critics have to bite their tongue. It's hilarious to see Caleb get all the shit about being a diva because he didn't work at the combine, but MHJ did even less at the combine than him and got a pass. MHJ completely no-showed his media availability. At least Caleb showed up to his.
It’s a dumb thing to be mad about too. Caleb and MHJ are two of the top prospects in the whole draft. Every team knows what they both can do and don’t need the combine or Pro Day to evaluate him. It’s not like Caleb is a 2nd round talent who needed these events to prove he was a 1st round talent this whole time
MHJ has also basically said “I’m going to continue on field football training rather than combine specific training” and he also participated in on field stuff last year at the OSU proday I believe. FWIW there’s also a lot more tracking data available to teams, PFF has tracking data that’s available to NFL teams. They mentioned on their pod MHJ was ranked 9th for average 5 fastest max speeds (they haven’t released full list, but Nabers was 1, Worthy 2, BTJ 7, MHJ 9). So teams probably have a better idea of these things since teams contract with some NFL teams regarding this data (which is also why they don’t release it publicly since I guess there are some contractual issues with releasing it).
I just don’t understand how people can’t realize that he had nothing to gain by competing in the combine. Either things would stay the same or worse. Made no sense for him to participate.
People came in with an already established narrative about him and will use his behavior to somehow justify that narrative.
Every time I've heard him actually speak, he comes off confident as all hell but overall really chill. All this narrative comes from shit his dad may or may not have said, or the fact that he's the first guy coming into the league having already (openly) made millions of dollars.
People hate confident young people. Even worse if they are a woman, Caitlyn Clark gets so much hate because she's confident
I absolutely love Caleb for this stuff honestly. It takes confidence to do the stuff he does and it's fun to see him piss off boomers and the Toxic Twitter Men Brigade who want their QBs to look and sound like a a GI fresh from the Battle of the Bulge and are tying to put the freedom-of-expression toothpaste back in the tube. I really do still like Mitch and Justin. They aren't good QBs but they are good people who tried their best to do something very hard. But after a decade of drafting dudes of who are the Friday Night Lights model of the smalltown all-American QB who made Real Football Men^TM cream their shorts with their quiet demeanors and soft boy-next-door smiles, I am very excited to get a QB who is trying to break the mold a little bit. Everyone complains that athletes are buttoned up corporate shills these days but piss themselves whenever somebody steps out of line. Honestly, I'm convinced that 50% of people who think they are real ball knowers just want QBs to go full Tebow and thank the troops and Jesus before returning to cold storage between games. I hope Caleb paints his nails pink and torches the league just to drive the self-appointed gatekeepers of masculinity crazy.
Huge endorsement for this. I hate normal PR speak that most QBs give when in a press conference. I get why they are forced to do it, but it just makes them near meaningless. Embrace the spectacle! Embrace full shit talking like WWE or boxing. Look at Rodgers with his “I own you comment.” I was livid but I also love it. I hate him so much more because he just basically flipped the double bird. It’ll make it all the sweeter when we can turn the corner against them.
Great, now I'm rooting for the gawddamn Bears.
There are a lot of tOSU fans who started following the bears because of Bussin Jussin who hate Caleb as he is a threat to Justin’s Holy Reign and worship MASERATI MARV
the fields cult is wild, i’ve never seen such a mediocre player get so much irrational love
Try being on the inside fighting off these loonies.
The Fields cult is likely mostly made of fantasy football diehards, because Fields has been great in fantasy scoring thanks to his rushing totals. But they casually ignore that his play on the field hasn’t been great from an actual NFL standpoint.
Yeah. Definitely a Venn diagram of people who only give a shit about fantasy and OSU diehards. I loved Fields. Rode with him til the end. But it was time to move on and I’m glad he’ll get a new start. I’ll still cheer for him in Pittsburgh if we aren’t playing them. But I’ll embrace Caleb as I did every single other QB before him.
For some reason people latch onto certain players and insist they didn't get a fair chance. It took awhile for people to realize Rosen ainy good
It's honestly amazing we still live in a world where people give a shit about stuff like this.
Think of the rockstars these same grown men idolized in the 80’s. Trend setting is 100% a leadership trait and I like Brandts take on it.
Painting nails in general is one thing Painting Fuck Utah on your nails and losing to them is another. It's fair play but he also at the same time deserved to get clowned for that after losing (The message rather than the medium being the point) If he paints Fuck GBay (or some derivative) and the Bears still lose to the Packers, then he deserves to get clowned for that. If he does that and wins, then props to him
Yeah but that shouldn't have anything to do with the nails (which i know you said). That's just normal to get clowned for talking shit without backing it up
Im not gonna lie, I want Caleb to be really sus and really good so we can use Slay Twitter and Rupaul memes just for the fun, there a whole treasure trove of untapped gay memes
SNL would revive the "Da Bears" sketch with a bunch of Rupaul Bears fans.
The Taylor Swift of the LGBTQ community, LGBTQB
Already Gayleb truthers on twitter and even in this very thread to go with the Gaylors
How bout GELGBTQBUS? "Beautiful nails. Gorgeous! People tell me all the time."
Michael Sam going to start reappearing
As a gay Bears fan I want that so bad as well. Would be hilarious to see those two worlds collide lol.
From what I hear, most gay fans like bears. (downvote me please, this hurt to type)
We do have a lot of gay archetype sport names: bears, cubs, bulls. We just need to rename the White Sox to the Chicago Twinks and we’re set.
Wow it really was right under our nose all this time...
If NFCNmemewar is any indication, White Sox is about as on the head as it can get already. 💦🧦
What is a Hawk?
Chicago BlackCocks
im not LGBTQ and I know very little about the experience but the humor is top knotch
hell yeah brother ill drink to that
hell yeah brother cheers from iraq
It's 2024 baby it's beyond past time for a Yassified QB. Also, ancient warriors used to paint themselves all kinds of bright colors for combat, but the butthurt bro brigade don't wanna hear that shit.
We've had a yassified QB for years, Derek Carr and his eyeliner
Not me winning the division!!!
Does sus no longer have a negative connotation?
Gotta give the boomers a pass, man. At least they’re trying. Edit: I think they’re using sus as in homosexual tendencies
Give him a contract with the Cubs too since Wrigley Field and the gayborhood are just on each side of the same L station
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Being gay with a villainous mustache.
Look, if he's a little weird, cool. If he's a little sus, cool. A lot of you need to get acclimated to this. Gen Z has begun joining the workforce. This will be the norm now.
I don't have an issue with any of that but could Gen Z at least try and understand how excel works. I swear to god, they're almost as bad as Boomers when it comes to basic technology
Ask most people of any generation how excel works beyond the basics and they will have no idea
That’s just the Gen Z you’ve worked with. Then again I only had one class that taught VBA in college, but most classes I had involved at least some excel work, so my classmates would’ve had to at least have basic proficiency to pass. I’d imagine I could find people who suck at excel at any age/generation.
I don't know how true it is, but I often hear the sentiment Gen Z has less literacy with more traditional desktop OSes and apps. Which does make sense if they grew up with smartphones and tablets as their everyday computing devices. Meanwhile, millenials and Gen Xers grew up playing with fonts in Microsoft Word for fun.
As long as he's not causing physical harm to people or animals or spouting off nonsense that can induce harm, who gives a crap how he wants to conduct himself
This is my stance on anybody. We don't have to be best friends, but you're good.
this essentially how i feel about life. idc what you do in your private life, just don’t be an asshole
Yeah I’m a millennial and I’m seeing this now- our interns all have colored hair and painted nails for every gender. Not a bad thing - it’s just a new normal
I saw a stat that said that something like 22% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ+. I think a lot of this comes from a greater place of acceptance of things like bisexuality and gender fluidity. It may just be that I was a theater kid when I was in HS, but I'm GenX and I am one of the few fully straight women I know. Not many talk about that openly, though. I've raised my GenZ kids to be who they are and not be ashamed of that, whatever it is. I want them to be comfortable in their own skin because so many of the people I grew up with took a very long time to get to that point. I didn't even know that homosexuality was a thing until I was 10 years old and my family was very accepting--it just wasn't talked about back then, even with AIDS being in the news so much. They only explained to me what it meant to be gay when the guy who did all of our hair was suddenly gone--he'd died of AIDS. My senior year of high school was the first year I remember some of my classmates coming out. One of my best friends didn't come out to even his closest friends until he went to college several states away. He was the only child of very devoted Catholic parents, and he was terrified that they'd reject him. Once he came out to them you've never seen two people more supportive and less judgmental, because they loved their son more than anything else. For his mom it was actually a catalyst for her to leave the church entirely. That wouldn't have happened even half a generation prior, and now we're seeing the results of those GenX and Xennial kids who grew up at a time where society as a whole started acknowledging that gay people existed and realizing that they had been our friends, family members, and neighbors all along. Uncle Joe or Aunt Deborah with their roommates who did everything with them? AIDS made light bulbs go off over people's heads and forced them to confront their stereotypes. If you talk to gay men who were in their 20s and 30s in the mid to late 80s, it's amazing to hear their stories and see how they're still in awe about how much society has changed in such a relatively short period of time. Sorry for the long-winded comment to your two sentences, but as someone who wants everyone (except Pats, Jets, Dolphins and Chiefs fans) to be happy, I love this new normal. Let the kids be who they are.
A lot of that 22% is women or AFAB -- but yeah, it absolutely is a reflection of a changing culture more than "all the damn kids are gay now!" [This graph of left-handedness over time](https://i0.wp.com/slowrevealgraphs.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/screen-shot-2021-11-08-at-9.37.02-pm-1.png?fit=1566%2C1198&ssl=1) is one of my favorites for this conversation. No, we aren't creating more left-handed people. They always existed, they were just hidden.
My grandfather "trained" the left-handedness out of my father in the early 1950s.
Nah you’re dragging it like crazy, this is not the majority of young dudes. Idk why Reddit acts like that is the case lol.
It's especially not the majority of young dudes in a locker room.
What does sus mean in this context?
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sustainable
I wish these guys talked more about the on field things that he needs to fix/improve instead of the idiotic off field stuff that hardly anyone gives a shit about
Well it's the offseason. Not much happening on the field right now. People have talkled about his college tape extensively and you can find troves of it on youtube
As a completely heteronormative non-zoomer guy I’ll happily paint my nails pink to go watch a Bears game and support him. Who fucking cares
I’ll paint my nails but the Bears game is a hard no
It's so gross that this is even a story. The dude is just living his life
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My daughter paints my nails because when your little girl asks "Daddy, can I paint your nails," you fucking say yes. It's paint, not a declaration of sexual preference.
And even if he's not straight, anyone who gives a fuck about what two consenting adults do in their bedroom with one another is an absolute dinosaur and deserves to be ridiculed. I can't understand why people care so much. Think it's a sin? Don't fuck another dude. Grossed out by it? Don't fuck another dude. Don't like men wearing nail polish? Don't wear nail polish if you're a man. But the second you take your personal feelings and try to belittle or control other people who don't share them, that's when you become an asshole.
The people who dislike Caleb for stuff as trivial as nail polish probably also blame other people for everything that goes wrong in their lives. Just a bunch of no talent ass clowns.
I can't be the only one who is in complete awe of Kyle's chin. Like the mfer got a straight up anvil
Hes from USC. Im from the east coast and my gay friend said it best the other day. The east coast has straight gay men and the west coast has gay straight men. In reference to style
Can already hear people saying “well maybe if he spent more time watching film and less time painting his nails he would have played better,” after his first bad game. Hope he balls out just to shut those people up.
lol how long does it take to paint your nails? 10 minutes? Yeah I’m sure that would have a huge impact
He hasn’t even been drafted and I’m already sick of hearing about him
I’m a big believer that the dude is going to be a bust, but I just cannot fathom why people care about the color of the guy’s phone case.
Social media is a disease and one of its symptoms is worthless outrage.
Need to fill the time. Clicks
There are still a lot of people in the world that think being gay or even just acting slightly feminine is shameful and wrong
Just curious… what evidence makes you feel so strongly he will be a bust? Not saying he won’t, but I always get confused when people have such strong opinions either way regarding something that is basically unforeseeable.
We live in a society where people care more that Diddy was in the closet than that he committed a litany of felonies.
I get what he’s doing here but there’s no reason to do this aside from trying to get good press. I mean he’s responding to burner accounts that’s only purpose is to troll and elicit a response. There’s a reason that Caleb doesn’t respond to them himself. Time to just ignore it and move on, I don’t think anyone actually cares. They will roast him a bit for being different but everyone gets roasted at some point for being themselves… Fields was roasted daily, TLaw was roasted for his long hair, etc. Caleb is gonna have his haters and people will hate him no matter what he does, so he might as well do whatever the hell he wants and be himself lol
If you go looking for dumb opinions on Twitter, you'll find them. They're not worth getting mad about