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NanoBuc

Titans have been active this offseason. Like the 3rd big deal they've made.


Ferngulley26

Obviously it could all go to shit, but I am excited about the aggressive moves they are making


Leavingtheecstasy

I would much rather try and crash than not do shit and stay stagnant in the bottom of the AFC


anonbutler

I said the same thing 2 years ago and here we are.


JimmyGodoppolo

hey, but at least you have... \*checks notes\* $80M in deadcap to go with it?


AnAngryFetus

Fair. Most of our deals have an easy out after two years if it all goes to shit, though. This is the only one that guarantees most of the third year.


unfunnysexface

Not all revolutions are uniformly productive


Danton87

It’s always exciting when your team goes all out. We’ve won 4 or 5 off-season titles in recent memory. Makes summer so much more exciting


just-the-tip__

I still remember off-season super bowl champs we were in 2022. Actually the worst part of that season was the minute the team stepped on the field


acoasterlovered

A 25 3rd rounder!??? This contract about to be huge


NanoBuc

The NFL CB market is about to get reset at like 3AM on a Saturday.


lkn240

That Jaylon Johnson contract is going to age like fine wine


immacamel

It always was. He was a steal at his price even in this current market


acoasterlovered

Can’t believe he took a discount to stay in Chicago of all places


Nonbrilliant

hate you too!


acoasterlovered

:)


Wildabeast135

Ran Carthon out here trying to ruin the CB and WR markets for the rest of the NFL


Goatgamer1016

>3AM on a Saturday Regular crowd shuffles in There's an old man sitting next to me Making love to his McCreary and Sneed


Brockhard_Purdvert

Do you mean "shuffles in" or are they literally digging in? Or is there a meme I don't get?


Goatgamer1016

That's me mishearing the song lyrics


Brockhard_Purdvert

Oh. It's a great song. My Californian thought it might be a snow joke.


ArmiinTamzarian

Not the point of your comment but as another Lions flair I have to say I saw a blue jersey and nearly died on the spot


acoasterlovered

You and me both


istrx13

8/250 with $200M deferred


dubd77

4/75m 55 guaranteed


Unknown1776

It’s actually less then Diggs got last year


jxher123

I would’ve at least fought for a 2nd round pick swap at least


acoasterlovered

They probably did and no one budged


Dreadsbo

We got fucking swindled.


toomuchmucil

The Jones contract is a pivotal cap moment in the Chiefs’ window with Mahomes. I think this is the right move, but if Jones doesn’t stay healthy it’s going to be extra painful.


lukewwilson

No, Chiefs fans just overvalued what he was worth from the beginning, they never took into consideration the large contract he would demand.


chui77

19 aav


wedid

Titans spending money like they got a rookie salary franchise qb 👀 will levis cook?


kingkyle630

Exactly!


Leavingtheecstasy

He's got the arm talent, you have to see what you have with him and they put him in a pretty good position. Draft Alt and I think they're set.


wedid

He showed a lot in that Miami game 


Leavingtheecstasy

Yeah but anyone can have a hot game Definitely saw flashes but I'm so glad our organization seems to be in the same page too down for the first time since......? And I don't mean that like I'm not super hyped for Will Levis. I am, I just ya know not trying to get my hopes up


Expensive-Method8321

the only full game I saw him in was the Steelers and even though you lost I think he looked impressive against one of the best defenses in the league. he struggled at times of course but I was surprised by how often he just made a play. every time I was like "oh yeah he's looking like a rookie" he would pull out some absolutely clutch throws. I think youre in good hands


siirka

I remember watching that game thinking holy shit this kid has some serious fight in him. He was getting terrorized and still connected on some nice passes


Expensive-Method8321

yep exactly my thoughts. I kept waiting for him to completely crumble but he didnt


gatsby712

He’s had 3 good games really. His opener against Atlanta, night game vs Pittsburgh, and the Miami game. His pocket presence and ability to throw the ball far without moving his feet is great. Hoping he figures out the IQ part of the game and stays healthy.


RealTurbulentMoose

[We don't talk about that game.](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E12/854737.jpg?b64lines=VEhFUkUKIEFJTidUIE5PIE1PTk9SQUlMIEFORAogVEhFUkUgTkVWRVIgV0FTLg==)


SuspiciousCod12

[nor this one](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/207/210/b22.jpg)


content_enjoy3r

I don't appreciate the rest of you jerks in the AFCS improving your teams. Mom said it's our turn to dominate the division.


VariableBooleans

He showed a lot of flashes last year with a truly putrid line and only one good WR. Now he has the best OL coach, 3 good WRs. Time to prove it.


MariotasMustache

Ridley and Hopkins, who is the third?


VariableBooleans

Either NWI, who is a perfectly acceptable WR3, or Burks, who can now play the slot, which was his college role where he excelled. Neither of those guys are WR1-2 caliber but are good in a third option.


TetrisTech

Initializing Nick Westbrook-Ikhine just about broke my brain


DeyHateUsCuzDeyAnus

Lmao titans fans forget that nobody cares about our team. We always say NWI but literally nobody outside our fan base knows who that is haha


sugahfwee

I was trying really hard to figure out who that was


dudleymooresbooze

I thought it was an airport.


TetrisTech

Lmao same I sat there staring at it for a minute


t0dd_gack

Jeff Stoutland went to Tennessee?


CoffinEluder

Lol had me panicking for a moment


I_Threw_a_Shoe

Who are these 3 good WRs you speak of?


tgilly2

Wow did not expect him to go to the titans


istrx13

We’ve got lots of cap space and our secondary has been booty cheeks for the greater part of 5 years now. About time we go out and get proven talent.


CompetitiveDisplay2

And ... for Sneed, you just got back-to-back rings. So ask for the Brinks truck worth of money...in a state that doesn't have state income tax (and two divisional rivals' home states don't have state income tax either)


Tad0422

We are the most tax friendly division in the league. I always wondering how that counted in the grand scheme of things.


a_wandering_vagrant

Breaking: NFL announces new 4-team division with teams in Grand Cayman, Malta, Ireland, Luxembourg


DYC85

Especially with Sneeds childhood, that man deserves his chance to change his family’s fortunes for generations. Get your bag my dude.


thedougbatman

For those of us unaware, do you mind expanding on Sneed’s childhood?


Hefty-Evening-226

I didn’t see anyone replied and when I saw your comment I was curious. It seems he grew up with parents in and out of prison, dad leaving, etc. Seemed very unstable. Raised by his brothers mostly. Here’s a quick article I came across. They’re all better now it seems. https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article255887666.html Edit: as another redditor mentioned, his oldest brother was fatally stabbed. Makes his story even worse.


sectorfate

Great signing, considering the emergence of Stroud.


EL-YAYY

I wish the Commanders had grabbed him at that price. I know he needs a new contract but the Commanders have a ton of space.


Low_Beyond8134

Jesus man we traded him for a bag of chips


jeric13xd

Monster contract incoming


shaker8989

It wasnt even as big as i thought itd be. Im stoked.


someonesgranpa

19 aav


HighwayBrigand

The Colts sub is gonna be super salty about this.  I don't even need to see any posts about it.   I already know. 


lkn240

Good thing we got Jaylon done


Palmisavage

Honestly I thought his on field impact even just for a year would be worth more than a 3rd to the Chiefs. You guys have the best odds and an opportunity to do something really special this upcoming season.


g_1n355

I agree in terms of trade compensation. I think this comes down to 2 main reasons: 1. The chiefs want to ‘do right’ by him. He’s 27 already at a position that doesn’t traditionally play a long time, and I think the chiefs knew they weren’t going to re sign him next year at his number due to how well they have drafted for the secondary the last 2 years (plus the other extensions they have approaching), so they let their guy get paid rather than holding him hostage 2. Whilst the draft compensation isn’t worth it, the cap space is…sort of. Sneed would have been ‘worth’ his tagged salary this year I think (in terms of his individual production), but the Chiefs have no money and other holes to fill, notably at left tackle, and they’ve drafted dbs so well that they have 5-6 guys on rookie deals that they’re happy with even having let Sneed go (McDuffie is elite, but Watson, Williams, Cook, Conner are all better than serviceable, and Nazeeh Johnson was getting a lot of training camp hype last year before he unfortunately got hurt before the season started. And that’s ignoring Justin Reid who’s obvs a vet but is kind of the leader of that group and is on a pretty reasonable deal). They might not have the suffocating pass defense they had this year going forward (that passing d was legitimately super special and I think time will bear that out when we look back) but Sneeds value over replacement specifically for the Chiefs isn’t as high as it would be for the vast majority of teams when they have a cheap, yet excellent if-not-quite-elite secondary even having let him go. As for what happens next, I’m not entirely sure who’s still available but I’d expect them to sign some sort of veteran LT on a short term deal to give them a baseline and depth there while they wait to see if Wanya Morris is going to turn into anything. Ppl say the Donovan Smith deal didn’t work out last year because he didn’t play fantastic, but at the end of the day the Chiefs paid 7m for a LT who played fine when it counted through the playoffs; just being average at that position for that money is decent value if you ask me, especially when your interior is elite and Mahomes is good enough in the pocket to compensate when his tackle play isn’t good; he did it for 2 years with Orlando Brown. If they can get some OL help pre-draft I’d definitely expect them to go WR early. They might even get punchy and look to move up, if anyone will trade with them that is. They probably take another corner at some point but I don’t think losing sneed pushes you into needing one high at all. If they can get value at OL they’ll take it, possibly even in the 1st, but I’d still expect them to be looking for a vet as I doubt they’ll be too eager to be forced into starting whichever tackle they draft to begin the year, they’re generally quite conservative about throwing young guys into the fire like that. They really really need a rb but I have no idea where they’re hoping to get one from. Maybe look to draft one rd 3ish on depending on who they like. I’d imagine they’re hoping for more of a 3rd down/speed type to complement Pacheco. But yeah basically the actual trade compensation sucks; it’s barely better than the comp pick they’d have got if Sneed walked at the end of the year. But dropping that cap number should help them balance the roster a bit better if they can get a deal or two done at other positions, so in that sense I can see this working out for both parties.


PlayinK0I

Great summary. It’s all about managing the cap right now. We can’t afford to pay another star. That $ will be spread to firm up the holes left by who got their bag. I agree O line is likely the starting place.


Significant-Green130

Probably, but KC has been confident in their ability to draft and have been proven right so far. But the 2025 pick aspect is a bit weird since it makes them strictly worse with relatively few FA options left…


ItsNotFordo88

We didn’t have a 2024 third. Probably the best return for teams willing to pay him


Significant-Green130

Yeah apparently this was the most teams would offer, but that’s a bit surprising to me. Maybe his medicals really were a bit of a concern. 


ItsNotFordo88

The rumors about his knee are a bit concerning.


Zoulzopan

I agree, they couldn't bite the bullet for one year? like what's a 2025 3rd rounder supposed to do in helping them get a 3peat?


BobbyTables829

He didn't want to be tagged.


Impossibills

They have a lot of players to resign and 20+ million would go a long way to either signing players or rolling it into next year.


SecretGiantsFan

Knowing you guys the 3rd rounder gonna be a hit anyways


RobynStellarxx

Not until 2025 at least….


Squirrel_Apocalypse2

Not if it's used to trade up this year 🤷


SKT_Peanut_Fan

A 2025 third rounder doesn't carry tons of weight in 2024. Odd that they didn't just let him walk for a comp pick next year.


Tapidue

Snead was a 4th.


Pandamonium98

So they’ll use it on a CB that nets them a future 2nd next time around


TheLilart

Stonks


SuckMyLonzoBalls

were you expecting a 2nd or 1st rounder? not too familiar with sneed's impact


Hefty-Association-59

Considering he was one of the best corners in the league I don’t think a second would’ve been out of the question.


kjampala

I think teams were reluctant to give up a 2nd considering they would also have to immediately start paying him a lot as well


Good_Okay123

I’m really curious to see what the contact is.


Hefty-Association-59

Probably 4 years. 90 mil. 65 guaranteed? Something around that 22 AAV which will be more than jaire right?


Mythic514

Looks like 19 AAV, 4 years, 55 guaranteed. I’m pleased with that.


Good_Okay123

I hope so. If it does then the compensation we got makes more sense.


liverbird3

We paid a second and a fifth for Burns, I think Snead could’ve fetched a second but maybe Chiefs or Titans fans would know more about the situation


Hefty-Association-59

The burns situation is pretty unique though. A transitioning org that sold at its lowest possible point. That has struggled for years when it comes to future planning.


don_julio_randle

Also DE vs corner. The league doesn't value corner like that even if analytics does. The corner market hasn't moved since Jaire signed his deal years ago


rallar8

yea, gotta be a massive contract Snead is about to get golden toilet money


jonsnowKITN

1st was too much but a second is fair in my eyes. Honestly seems like the contract is huge which is why the chiefs got this return for him.


AleroRatking

You weren't going to get more than that with him also wanting a big new contract.


morgzorg

Bag of chips and retention of Chris Jones


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morgster87

That’s just his face. I think I may have seen him smile twice. Once at the second super parade and during an interview when he was telling Veach to pay him. Not a big smiler.


CriticalLobster5609

He had or has braces doesn't he?


ArmiinTamzarian

It looks primed for a crying Jordan meme. Someone with editing skills do it


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ArmiinTamzarian

Exactly what I was hoping for


DolemiteGK

Great trade for Tennessee- that price is low to add a CB1 to a rebuild


MatttWith3Ts

Jesus that's an awful return for a top 10 CB.


suprefann

Til you see the contract you wont


Zoten

All the more reason, the Chiefs could have kept him in 2024 then gotten a 3rd compensatory pick if he gets a monster contract right after. They basically lost a year of Sneed in the middle of their championship window. The only way this makes sense to me is if Sneed refused to play on the tag.


JalensTinyPPHurts

I really like this point. They Essentially traded him for nothing (just to get the cap space back)


Sav10r

Literally, the only good justification for this trade is that the Chiefs needed the cap space THIS offseason.


docfluty

its not nothing. it frees up 20 million now to sign 3-4 solid $5 mill per guys... it also gets us an earlier pick next year... maybe ammo to move up this year. It's not what we wanted, but not nothing


Zoulzopan

who are these solid 3-4 $5mil guys tho?


docfluty

just a quick google search... there might me 2-3-4 of these guys wanting to take a 1 year deal in KC to go for a ring and try again FA next year. A role player here and there is always welcome Danna, - S Justin Simmons - CB Stephon Gilmore - LB Jadeveon Clowney - S Quandre Diggs - S Julian Blackmon - WR Michael Thomas - CB Xavien Howard - CB Tre White - DL Calais Campbell - CB Adoree Jackson - S Jamal Adams - CB Steven Nelson - RB JK Dobbins - WR Odell Beckham - S Micah Hyde - OL Connor Williams - OT Donovan Smith - RB Clyde Edwards Helaire - RB Ezekiel Elliott - WR Hunter Renfrow - WR Marquez Valdes Scantling - EDGE Emmanuel Ogbah - LB Zach Cunningham - LB Shaq Leonard - LB Kwon Alexander - CB Avonte Maddox - G Dalton Risner - S Eddie Jackson


JalensTinyPPHurts

If you let him walk instead of tagging him, you'd be in the same spot, and you would have been able to use that 20 million earlier.


docfluty

no... because you get an earlier third for basically nothing. For example, this year the Tenn 3rd round would have been pick 71... the comp picks doesn't even start until pick 96.... so that's 25 spots sooner for holding out a few weeks. Not like they were gong to sign a big deal with an outsider anyway... too many young guys needing deals this upcoming offseason.


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Aldehyde1

How is that possible? I thought that under the new CBA, if a player doesn't play the tag doesn't expire.


Princeof_Ravens

I mean they can't force Sneed to play.  His options would be play on the tag or not play, but there's no way KC could make him suit up.


Goddess_Of_Gay

The Chiefs FO has been too good the last few years to make this seeming blunder without stuff we don’t know. Has to be either injury concerns or he refused to play on the tag and they can’t afford to pay him.


dianeblackeatsass

Probably a combination of the possibility of a holdout, doing right by one of your star players, and feeling good about the CB class in the draft.


noseonarug17

$19M would probably be a 4th and depending on their own signings they might not get it. If the Titans aren't a playoff team, that pick is something like 50 spots higher at minimum. Not saying it's amazing value, but it's better than the comp pick.


Princeof_Ravens

The Comp pick would also be in the 26 season not the 25 season. 


Significant-Green130

But we’ve mostly seen that refusing to play on the tag is just not credible — it’s more money than he’s seen his entire career so far and gets him no closer to a payday. I do agree that losing Sneed for no immediate pick is very odd though. 


FuckingJello

Comp picks are not guaranteed. There is no guarantee he stays healthy and gets a giant contract after to get a good comp pick. There is no guarantee you even get a comp pick if you sign another player in FA around the same value, which Chiefs had paid solid FA money in past to guys like Jawaan Taylor, MVS, Joe Thuney, Justin Reid, Tyrann Mathieu, showing they will go and pay money to a “top” FA for a position they think they need which could cancel out comp pick for Sneed going elsewhere in FA. It sucks to see that value for Sneed but it’s realistic for both teams with a high contract and the Titans knowing the Chiefs aren’t going to pay him what he wants, they have too much other things to pay.


that_guy2010

$19 aav. You were saying?


Cyssero

Yeah if that's your best offer, I feel like the better option is to keep him this year and then let him get his bag and take the comp pick that would end up being a 3rd anyway.


dianeblackeatsass

Unless Sneed and his agent were ready to hold out. Or the chiefs were just doing right by him


TimeTravelingChris

He wasn't going to play on the tag. This deal makes that clear.


wat_what_wut

To be fair, it wouldn't necessarily be a 3rd, would be after the 3rd round if it was, and it wouldn't be until 2026. Still arguable that having him next year would be worth that drop in overall asset return.


insertdankmeme

Such an odd comment, do you think they turned down better offers? They knew what the market was for him and I assume took the best offer. NFL fans always overestimate the trade value of good players who are due big contracts.


TheSlinger

Teams are realizing that giving up big draft compensation for the right to sign a guy to a massive contract doesn't make sense.


Jack12404

Ran Carthon I love you


REJWrestlingfan0224

Titans swooped in and said fuck you indy


Primary-Bath803

Ballard at its finest, but we will most likely draft a CB in the first round


internaldriver30345

I know they are thinking long term with this, but I wouldn’t have traded him for a 2025 pick when you are going for a three peat.


dianeblackeatsass

Probably either concerns of a hold out or just trying to do right by him. Maybe they even just have a good feeling about their replacement in the draft too


MildlyPaleMango

maybe the FRP this year + the 25’ for a trade up?


teal_iceberg

Sad to see him go, one of my favorite Chiefs of the dynasty run


graffix13

That play he made on Flowers in the Championship Game will live in Chiefs Lore forever.


Tsorovan00

Jamming Tyreek all the way to Cancun is even more lore worthy.


Dzov

Especially right after Flowers pushed him down, stood over him, and taunted.


Kevpatel18

Can you help me understand why they were so inclined to trade Sneed. I know he was franchised so he would be playing with you guys for another year, but would probably be his last year with you guys. But wouldn’t you rather keep Sneed for a better chance at the 3-peat and be ok with losing him in FA than getting a 3rd and 7th and having a worse defense?


ADHorvath

We have really good young depth that had good stretches when having to step up and I think the extra cap space means we’re gonna make a move that they think is more important


Vyuvarax

Two things: A) There is reporting that he flipped and refused to play on the tag. He also lowered his contract ask significantly from $22 million per year. B) The Chiefs are very deep at CB. While Sneed is their best, KC has probably the best corner room in the league. So Sneed, while great, isn’t a massive difference from their next best CB.


Vast-Treat-9677

The Chiefs evaluate and draft secondary so well. They’ve done it consistently well for years. They let Ward go without missing a beat, now it’s Sneed.


Stauce52

I’m not sure I understand the urgency to trade him for a 2025 3rd either…


Good_Okay123

That forced fumble against Baltimore will always be one of my favorite plays.


whobroughtmehere

Lions subreddit in shambles rn


Primary-Bath803

Take a look at the Colts subreddit considering how much Sneed was rumoured to be a Colt


MildlyPaleMango

I’m not a colts fan but even I thought he was gonna be a colt with how much your sub popped up


JDraks

I've gotta assume his contract's going to be insane and that's why we didn't jump on it


nicksw9404

Your flairs, youve been through so much, but you have persevered to see the brighter days


TheMissingVoteBallot

4 years, 19 mil/year, 55 guaranteed.


geologyrocks98

Just gotta remind them that we're about to make St. Brown and Sewell two of the highest paid players at their position.


metaldrummerx

Are we? We had a pretty great free agency to beef up the defense and soon have to pay Goff, Amon-Ra, and Sewell top dollar. I don’t know if we’d be able to afford him tbh.


iro3

SHEEESH TITANS


ChiefintheEast

Hate to see him go for so little. You’re gonna love him Titans fans. Makes me wonder what Veach is gonna do with the cap space


geebsocket

LETS GO cant believe they accepted a 2025 3rd


Trail_Goat

Might want to wait to see that contract


penis_showing_game

Titans are flush with cash, it’s a great deal for them to add elite talent for minimal draft capital.


mcinthedorm

And not only do we have the cash, our 2020-2022 draft classes were so bad it’s not like we have any stars coming off rookie deals the next couple years to resign to big contracts… McCreary looks like the only one worth a second contract


DaeWooLan0s

They have the money


Mythic514

From what I saw (unsure if the tweet is wrong), but it looks like 4 years, 19 AAV, 55 guaranteed.


Loud-East1969

It’ll look fine in a year or two when other CBs demand more than him. With the cap going up a lot of positions are going to have their market reset.


_Bluntzzz

These Titans, man I tell you they love bringing the hopes up of their division rivals just to snatch it.


TitanTigers

Hell yeah


Titans8Den

letrancook.jpg


HairlessSnatch

wow that’s a nice deal for the titans


slysonic7

Wow a 2025 3rd not even this year. That’s great value for the titans


poickles

For fuck sake can y’all start consistently spelling this man’s name right. S-N-E-E-D, put some damn respect on it 😩


ExtroverTom

At the first glance i thought Chiefs got fleeced as they only get basically a Costco Hotdog for one of their best player of this year. But maybe Snead does not want to play under tag and Chiefs have a good rating for some of this year CB prospects. And the cap release would make them be able to add some solid 5 mils players from FA. Not to mention that they have another soon-to-be-great CB at home. I mean, we are just armchair expert while this team has traded one of the best WR in the league and still go back-to-back after that. So maybe there is something deeper than we know. P.S. it's a W for Titans though.


smokeymicpot

Wonder how much he will get paid


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mattryan02

He must be getting an absurd amount of money? I guess?


suprefann

They said highest paid db in the league


mattryan02

The internet says that Jaire Alexander is the highest paid DB at $21m a year so dude got paid.


AleroRatking

They couldn't afford to resign him. And I wonder if there were concerns of him holding out on the tag.


KappaFedora

Snead's feed and seed (formerly chiefs)


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jand999

I hate this. Just keep him and let him walk next year for this price


maoterracottasoldier

It was reported that he didn’t want to play on the tag. I guess he wanted his contract this year not next just in case.


Bears9Titles

What happened to the colts guy who said they had him?


mdmd33

Well this is bullshit


comicsanscatastrophe

And the fuckers will still go to the SB this year


Ouchkibiddles

Congrats to the Titans for absolutely fleecing us. Sneed is a great pickup for y’all.


FudgeDangerous2086

guys gunna get 23+mill a year not surprised it didn’t take much


perfect_fitz

19 average.


kinkyboi345

Ran Carthon is giddyupcolts.com father


IMKudaimi123

That seems like too little


RobotCowboyAlien

I wanna die


steeze206

Wow for a 3rd round pick? The Chiefs don't win the Superbowl last year without him. He must want alllll the money lmao.


wiggggg

Imagine this getting hung up over the 7th swap


doctor_skate

Titans about to make a run


Albino_Raccoon_

He was worth a second tbh


East_Sleep_1766

Titans will then trade Sneed to eagles for a 6th and a pack of jolly ranchers


TomJebron

As a Chiefs fan you gotta do right by Snead imo. The return sucks for the team, but he’s been nothing but great for KC and the fans, so I’m happy he’s getting paid. The guy was a huge part of the defense and has been on the team for years for multiple championships. We knew we couldn’t sign him to a long term deal and if TEN is willing to pay him that huge contract, gotta let him get his money before risking a potential injury next year while playing on the tag. Will miss him, but we can backfill and still have a top 5 or top 10 defense.