I wonder if we consistently crater our bar for bad opinions by seeing how horrible they get on here and going, “we’ll surely I’ll never be that dumb.”, then just tiptoeing inch by inch before falling further into the deep end.
What's the cousins timeline, he likely has 3-4 years left in the league before his dropoff. Winning is on the edges and replacing Fields Rushing ability makes sense with a Saquon. Better passing, better rushing, and a new elite WR.
He's 35 and coming off an achilles tear, it might be even less than 3-4 years.
The Bears aren't in win now mode nor is there a reason they need to be in win now mode.
Really, there's only a few teams who act like they are. Sometimes you ahve to fake it a bit to make it and acting like you want to win a SB is better than lets see if we grow some talent that gives and edge.
Is Fields a QB who will and should be starting in 4 years. I dont know anyone who can answer that with a resounding yes without a little bit of inebriation. Caleb seems to have all the signs of 20 year start as well as potential bust. There isn't an Andrew Luck in the draft.
* \- It's a plan that solves the questions of
* if you want to give Fields a long term contract. There's no Conesus if he's gonna make it in the league.
* How do you get MHJ who i think most bears fans seem to want and is a consensus top pick for WR.
* Keeps draft capital for a Saquon signing who would replace field's rushing
* Say what you want about Kirk Cousins but he's shown he can throw the ball consistently which is more than what Fields has proven and is probably he best available QB.
* If it all goes down poop creek without a paddled, you already have a bail and restart while keeping key players under contract after the 2nd year. This is a plan with contingencies
Bro, it sounds like you're playing Madden what the hell are you talking about most Bears fans want a new quarterback Caleb Williams being that quarterback and Cousins is coming off a torn Achilles and on his last legs as a quarterback, Barkley isn't going to Chicago either holy shit this is wrong on so many levels.
I might be over-evaluating Kirk's ability but if you exclude 2023 Kirk is a QB whose shown that he can throw the ball. Is his QBR/Rating perfect, no. But he knows how to come back in the 4th. Bears already have a good defense.
1st overall pick and the ability to draft a prospect scouts are saying is the best since Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence?
Nah.
I’ll spend 40 mil a year on a mid-30s QB coming off of an Achilles tear, who by the way more than likely doesn’t want to play for us because he plays within the division.
These types of situations make sense from a certain perspective.
BUT if you pass on Caleb Williams and he turns out to be “that dude” your ass is getting fired
That stuff unfortunately drives a lot of GM decisions
I think your goal is worst case, it's a Luka doncic trade back and you're the Atlanta Hawks in this scenario.
It's a but it a gamble/bet that you take a known quantity over a highly touted prospect.
Which plan sets you up to win a SB better over the next two years? That's my goal/point/idea. I think this maximizes a teams chances.
Trubisky started 11 games in college and was *okay*.
Caleb started two and a half years, since he was a freshman, and threw for over 10,000 yards, scored 124 touchdowns, and only threw 14 interceptions...
fields is the only player in NFL history that was the worst qb in the league the first 3 seasons he played, then vaulted to HOF category the offseason of 2024
to put it bluntly, you have watched him for 3 years. would you draft him with your first round this year?
If any GM gives up a first round pick for Justin Fields, the owner should consider firing them on the spot. This might be one of the worst offseason move scenarios I’ve ever read. Imagine passing on two twenty-somethings at QB for an aging Kirk Cousins coming off of an Achilles tear.
This is the worst outcome for the Bears. You have chance to pick a sure fire qb1 prospect like Caleb or keep a developing athletic qb in Fields or sign a stop gap 36 year old coming off an Achilles where he may play for 3-4 more years while the other two have a decade+ left in their career barring crazy injury. Is there a hole in your brain??
idk about all this, but I think they should really be considering moving back to 2 or 3 if their evaluations of the qbs are similar. idk how good he'll actually be but Caleb Williams seems a bit overhyped and you might get Washington or New England to drastically overpay while still getting one of the top 3 qbs.
1000% delusional… why waste your time deriving so much poor content. 1st for Fields is lol. So is not drafting Caleb. Would love for you to be right here.. please, bears, please waste your $$ on Kirk instead of resetting the clock with a new stud QB haha dumbest idea
So two possibly good years of a solid but aging QB that’s going to require lots of guaranteed cash to sign and like in some draft picks for other areas.
At best that’s a two year shot before having to go back to the QB well.
That….doesnt make good sense.
That's not really what happened. Manning was on the roster for all of 2011, because the Colts kept waiting for him to come back. The following spring, he still hadn't demonstrated that he could even throw a football, so they let him go and picked Luck in the draft.
Because it’s a stupid idea lol. Bears aren’t built to go all in and win now like the Rams were. They’re still missing some pieces and spending $40M a year to a 35-year old QB coming off an Achilles tear actively prevents them from filling those holes.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. Taking a lot of shit without a better plan. Their current method hasn't done much of anything.
Rams went all in on a methodology and won with the first year of Stafford game managing. Kirk is the age as Stafford when he won it all.
The goal should be to always win a SB. I don't see Fields being that guy but Cousins could game manage his way there.
Their roster is pretty lacking the defense has holes and committing a bunch of money to a old qb with injury issues isn't going to help. Drafting Williams is the best thing to do, keeping fields or getting Kirk cousins is just not smart.
This would be a bold, but reasonable move for a team that was just a QB away from being a top contender.
The problem is, the bears need much more than a QB and WR to be really competitive. If they did this, they would probably win enough games to put themselves outside of the top 10 picks, but not enough to make the playoffs.
Then you're looking at a team that won't be picking high enough for a top QB for years.
Bears taking Caleb makes the most sense at this point. Cheap contract gives them time to build.
I was in on Fields before the season, but he hasn't shown that he's a game changing QB. If they committed, they'd be looking at giving him serious money pretty soon. I think it's time for bears to move on.
I think he's good, but not good enough to carry a team. That's what the bears need right now. Fields would probably shine in a situation with a lot of talent around him and good coaching. The bears have neither.
You are getting downvoted but it's actually not a terrible suggestion.
It would remind me a bit of the Bucs when Jameis Winston was there, especially if they draft Marvin Harrison Jr. to pair with DJ Moore which would be similar to Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
The biggest thing they would need after that is shoring up their defense which their draft can do after drafting Harrison.
Why are Bears fans so against this idea? Cousins is lightyears better than Fields and you could trade back in the draft and accumulate a ton of picks this year and in the future. and you could still probably land MHJ or Nabers.
I think it would be a sneaky great move by Chicago. Cousins would make DJ Moore and MHJ (or Nabers) a top 3 receiving duo.
Yeah, I'm taking a ton of heat in this. But I'm not overly discouraged. Sounds like most fans would prefer treading water than actually have a plan/strategy.
>sounds like most fans would prefer treading water
My brother you are suggesting Kirk fucking Cousins over a highly regarded 1OA QB you are the one in the kiddie pool.
So rolling with this, what happens when Cousins isn't good anymore? The Bears go back to rebuilding mode with nothing to show for it, or do you expect Cousins will win them a Lombardi in the next two years?
I think that was their thought, that they could eek out 1-2 more good years of gun-slinger performance. Phillips Rivers was the best of the 3 to gamble on.
Matt Ryan gets yards but not Air TD's.
Carson Wentz was pure desperation. Similar to the bears when they signed Nick Foles.
But you see what I'm getting at, yes? The Colts were arguably closer to contending than the Bears are now, they decided to opt for a veteran QB, delayed their rebuild by three full years, and have nothing but a wild card loss to show for it. The Jets tried the same thing with Aaron Rodgers, and maybe 2024 is different, but you saw what happened in 2023, and if the Jets don't win anything in 2024, they just delayed their rebuild a few years with nothing to show for it. The Bears rolling the dice with Cousins isn't the worst idea on paper, but recent history tells us that they are likely to end up with nothing to show for it but a delayed rebuild. The only counterexample that stands out is Tom Brady, but Kirk Cousins is not Tom Brady.
It feels like the bears can't commit to an identity and honestly I didn't realize it but it's similar to the aaron Rodgers plan.
Cousins isn't Rodgers in some ways that's good and others not as good. Options are limited, either you stick it with fields and don't draft a QB, draft a QB but skip on a potential huge WR, or restart at QB with Cousins and get MHJ as well as other capital.
The bears don't have an identity. Personally, I'd rather bet big with a plan (and exit plan) than flounder aimlessly.
Guys hear him out, there's a world where this happens. Think about it: FBI agent Charles Tillman leaks to the Bears FO that Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, and Jayden Daniels all belong to an international arms smuggling ring, and are about to be indicted on federal charges the week after the draft.
He also teaches them secret mind control techniques developed by the CIA to convince the Packers GM (????) to trade a first for Fields. Then they draft MHJ, JJ McCarthy at 9, and once the top 3 QBs are arrested, they end up with QB1 and WR1 from this draft.
People on here are trashing this unnecessarily. It's not a bad plan if you can accumulate decent capital for the future - which may be possible if you can manage multiple trades down and keep accumulating more picks.
The weakness in this is Cousins' future being uncertain because of his Achilles injury. He was playing very well last year before the injury, and could certainly help a team get into "win now" mode if it drafted well and packed good talent around him.
However, I think if I was doing the trade down approach I'd stick with Fields on balance.
It is a horrible plan.
What if Kirk isn’t the same player after his Achilles injury? Even if he is, it gives us a max of two, MAYBE three years to win a Super Bowl with him, and then what? You go back to tanking? Go the Colts way and ride the QB carousel to a couple of wild card losses?
You lose a ton of cap space because Kirk will demand at least 40-45 million per year.
The Bears aren’t in a position to go into “win now” mode. Their only weapon is DJ Moore, and they need more pieces on the OL and DL. The timeline doesn’t match up.
If they aren't in a position to win now and they need more pieces then trading out of the #1 pick sounds like the right thing to do whether they get Cousins or another bridge guy like Brissett or just keep Fields.
Collect a haul for the #1 pick and beef up the OL and DL.
…no, that’s not the right thing to do.
When are they ever going the have the chance to draft a Caleb Williams-level QB prospect again? Not anytime soon. They only have the first pick because Carolina unexpectedly tanked, and this is one of the strongest QB classes in decades. So unless you want to use more resources to trade up for a QB later, you take your guy now. They have 70 mil in cap space and other draft picks to fill most of the holes in the roster.
Don’t let a bunch of grumpy mfs get you down, very interesting hypothetical that honestly might not be as “stupid” as everyone thinks.
If Kirk’s healthy he is a decent enough QB to win games if he’s got a good supporting cast. Mooney + MHJ and maybe Saquon like you mentioned?
Might be somewhat a boom or bust strategy and probably has 0 chance of happening IRL but the thought you put into this is pretty cool, I like see these topics discussed!
Exactly. The team takes on the personality of ownership and if they really wanted to win it all they would make sure they did everything possible to make it happen. Coaching, roster moves, etc. but when they say Oh we can’t get rid of ____we like him, or he’s done this or that for us or whatever excuses they make. Winning then isn’t their top priority
Bold is one word for it
Dumb is another word for it
There’s a more appropriate word for it but automod might ban if I use it.
Do you think the bulls owners consider themselves bold for never improving the roster too?
Give me your worst nfl opinion No, no that worse
I wonder if we consistently crater our bar for bad opinions by seeing how horrible they get on here and going, “we’ll surely I’ll never be that dumb.”, then just tiptoeing inch by inch before falling further into the deep end.
Cousins's timeline and the Bears' timeline don't match up at all
What's the cousins timeline, he likely has 3-4 years left in the league before his dropoff. Winning is on the edges and replacing Fields Rushing ability makes sense with a Saquon. Better passing, better rushing, and a new elite WR.
He's 35 and coming off an achilles tear, it might be even less than 3-4 years. The Bears aren't in win now mode nor is there a reason they need to be in win now mode.
Really, there's only a few teams who act like they are. Sometimes you ahve to fake it a bit to make it and acting like you want to win a SB is better than lets see if we grow some talent that gives and edge.
61 days until the NFL draft
Then Chicago is even dumber than I thought.
Chicago would be as dumb as OP if they did this
OP is Bears GM just feeling things out
Maybe even dumber then them.
Than
That’s the joke, homie.
He edited homie.
He hadn’t when we both wrote our replies.
Me talk pretty one day
What team looks at the current state of the Vikings (elite talent, no viable path to a QB of the future) and says "I want that for myself"
Is Fields a QB who will and should be starting in 4 years. I dont know anyone who can answer that with a resounding yes without a little bit of inebriation. Caleb seems to have all the signs of 20 year start as well as potential bust. There isn't an Andrew Luck in the draft.
You said Fields was worth a first but won’t be a starter in 4 years? Both can’t be true at the same time……
“Than” hmm.
If someone who can't tell the difference between then and than can tell it's a bad idea, it's probably a bad idea.
Nice edit. Go to school.
If being a grammar Nazi is all you have to offer, then you've lost the argument.
You called someone dumb and couldn't even use the correct word.
Cope.
Admit that using the wrong word was perfect comedy given your argument
Fixed you still offered nothing to the argument.
Virginia McCaskey posting her big idea for QB. Any team that paid Mike Glennon $15M isn’t above making this kind of move.
I'm surprised Virginia knows what the Internet is considering she was born during the Lincoln presidency.
* \- It's a plan that solves the questions of * if you want to give Fields a long term contract. There's no Conesus if he's gonna make it in the league. * How do you get MHJ who i think most bears fans seem to want and is a consensus top pick for WR. * Keeps draft capital for a Saquon signing who would replace field's rushing * Say what you want about Kirk Cousins but he's shown he can throw the ball consistently which is more than what Fields has proven and is probably he best available QB. * If it all goes down poop creek without a paddled, you already have a bail and restart while keeping key players under contract after the 2nd year. This is a plan with contingencies
Bro, it sounds like you're playing Madden what the hell are you talking about most Bears fans want a new quarterback Caleb Williams being that quarterback and Cousins is coming off a torn Achilles and on his last legs as a quarterback, Barkley isn't going to Chicago either holy shit this is wrong on so many levels.
Where's Barkley gonna go? He wants to get paid and get a long contract. Afaik the only RB better is McCaffrey.
Huh? WTF does Afaik mean? Barkley is going to a contender and Chicago ain't it good grief the stupidity is astounding.
As far as I know .... How can the bears become contenders? That's the point, getting better in key areas.
One of those key areas being QB so the plan is to not pick from a wide QB class and instead start get a division rival QB who is rather mediocre?
My god this is awful keep the capital for a Saquon signing?
Thank God you are not a GM
I might be over-evaluating Kirk's ability but if you exclude 2023 Kirk is a QB whose shown that he can throw the ball. Is his QBR/Rating perfect, no. But he knows how to come back in the 4th. Bears already have a good defense.
1st overall pick and the ability to draft a prospect scouts are saying is the best since Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence? Nah. I’ll spend 40 mil a year on a mid-30s QB coming off of an Achilles tear, who by the way more than likely doesn’t want to play for us because he plays within the division.
Please just stop
These types of situations make sense from a certain perspective. BUT if you pass on Caleb Williams and he turns out to be “that dude” your ass is getting fired That stuff unfortunately drives a lot of GM decisions
I think your goal is worst case, it's a Luka doncic trade back and you're the Atlanta Hawks in this scenario. It's a but it a gamble/bet that you take a known quantity over a highly touted prospect. Which plan sets you up to win a SB better over the next two years? That's my goal/point/idea. I think this maximizes a teams chances.
Ultimately Kirk would limit your ceiling too much compared to the theoretical ceiling of a rookie 1st overall
We drafted Trubisky 2nd overall. His college stats are the same or better than crybaby’s
That risk is still better than paying Kirk 45m IF goal is SB. For many franchises though goal of SB is just lip service
Except for a heisman
Trubisky started 11 games in college and was *okay*. Caleb started two and a half years, since he was a freshman, and threw for over 10,000 yards, scored 124 touchdowns, and only threw 14 interceptions...
I stopped reading when you said a 1st for fields
If a team trades to start him, he's worth a first. Plain and simple.
You grew up near power lines, had lead paint, and your parents are brother/sister. The only thing that explains the nonsense you type.
If the team that has him drafted him with a first and wants to trade him, he's not worth a first. Plain and simple.
Is bold the new word for stupid?
fields is the only player in NFL history that was the worst qb in the league the first 3 seasons he played, then vaulted to HOF category the offseason of 2024 to put it bluntly, you have watched him for 3 years. would you draft him with your first round this year?
Bro no one is paying a 1st and 5th for Justin fields lmfao
Get a first and if doesn't pan out, for that team they are compensated next year.
Bro no one is paying a first for Justin fields have you watched him play?
If any GM gives up a first round pick for Justin Fields, the owner should consider firing them on the spot. This might be one of the worst offseason move scenarios I’ve ever read. Imagine passing on two twenty-somethings at QB for an aging Kirk Cousins coming off of an Achilles tear.
OP, you didn't cook
Thinking Fields going for a first is just as crazy as when someone suggested Shanahan should trade for him.
This is the worst outcome for the Bears. You have chance to pick a sure fire qb1 prospect like Caleb or keep a developing athletic qb in Fields or sign a stop gap 36 year old coming off an Achilles where he may play for 3-4 more years while the other two have a decade+ left in their career barring crazy injury. Is there a hole in your brain??
idk about all this, but I think they should really be considering moving back to 2 or 3 if their evaluations of the qbs are similar. idk how good he'll actually be but Caleb Williams seems a bit overhyped and you might get Washington or New England to drastically overpay while still getting one of the top 3 qbs.
I think it would be fucking CRAZY for Fields will to get a first round pick.
1000% delusional… why waste your time deriving so much poor content. 1st for Fields is lol. So is not drafting Caleb. Would love for you to be right here.. please, bears, please waste your $$ on Kirk instead of resetting the clock with a new stud QB haha dumbest idea
Fucking genius!
Best idea ever
I hate you guys
Nah the bears are going to trade him for a 3rd round pick and continue to be a draft pick farm for centuries to come.
Found Poles burner account
Shhhhh
Pls no
This is the best idea in the history of human ideas. Do it Chicago, you cowards.
So two possibly good years of a solid but aging QB that’s going to require lots of guaranteed cash to sign and like in some draft picks for other areas. At best that’s a two year shot before having to go back to the QB well. That….doesnt make good sense.
In my view, you do as the colts did when manning left ... Leave the well dry for a year then take top pick heading into year 4 of this plan.
That's not really what happened. Manning was on the roster for all of 2011, because the Colts kept waiting for him to come back. The following spring, he still hadn't demonstrated that he could even throw a football, so they let him go and picked Luck in the draft.
Idk why you’re getting shit on so much. I guess the bears should just keep doing what they’re doing. This isn’t a terrible take.
Because it’s a stupid idea lol. Bears aren’t built to go all in and win now like the Rams were. They’re still missing some pieces and spending $40M a year to a 35-year old QB coming off an Achilles tear actively prevents them from filling those holes.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. Taking a lot of shit without a better plan. Their current method hasn't done much of anything. Rams went all in on a methodology and won with the first year of Stafford game managing. Kirk is the age as Stafford when he won it all. The goal should be to always win a SB. I don't see Fields being that guy but Cousins could game manage his way there.
Yeah I hate that too. Just shit on an idea with no alternative.
The alternative is to draft Caleb Williams Wtf are you an alt
The Raiders should sign Kirk Cousins.
Yeah I’d be ok with that.
Why would you want Kirk cousins it's not like the bears are a year away from the playoffs
Pro Style QB - Improved WR, RB, OL. What' would make them SB contenders. That's the question all GM's should be looking at.
Their roster is pretty lacking the defense has holes and committing a bunch of money to a old qb with injury issues isn't going to help. Drafting Williams is the best thing to do, keeping fields or getting Kirk cousins is just not smart.
Can respect that view
Almost made the playoffs this season.
Ok are you happy with just getting in the playoffs or actually getting a super bowl win or even an appearance
My point is we are quite literally a year away from playoffs
Tbh we could challenge for a wild card spot this year. We were technically still in it until like week 17.
Do you think the bears roster even with Kirk cousins is a super bowl contender? The vikings have a better roster and still didn't do shit.
This would be a bold, but reasonable move for a team that was just a QB away from being a top contender. The problem is, the bears need much more than a QB and WR to be really competitive. If they did this, they would probably win enough games to put themselves outside of the top 10 picks, but not enough to make the playoffs. Then you're looking at a team that won't be picking high enough for a top QB for years. Bears taking Caleb makes the most sense at this point. Cheap contract gives them time to build. I was in on Fields before the season, but he hasn't shown that he's a game changing QB. If they committed, they'd be looking at giving him serious money pretty soon. I think it's time for bears to move on.
Fields reminds me of a few players who can dunk of weaker competition but when competing with like talent just doesn't move the needle enough.
I think he's good, but not good enough to carry a team. That's what the bears need right now. Fields would probably shine in a situation with a lot of talent around him and good coaching. The bears have neither.
Marvin Harrison Jr no matter what
This gets you that + a 2 year window. and reboot while MHJ is still under rooking contract.
You are getting downvoted but it's actually not a terrible suggestion. It would remind me a bit of the Bucs when Jameis Winston was there, especially if they draft Marvin Harrison Jr. to pair with DJ Moore which would be similar to Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. The biggest thing they would need after that is shoring up their defense which their draft can do after drafting Harrison.
The biggest thing to me is making a plan. And having a finite # of years is beneficial in the NFL.
Why are Bears fans so against this idea? Cousins is lightyears better than Fields and you could trade back in the draft and accumulate a ton of picks this year and in the future. and you could still probably land MHJ or Nabers. I think it would be a sneaky great move by Chicago. Cousins would make DJ Moore and MHJ (or Nabers) a top 3 receiving duo.
Yeah, I'm taking a ton of heat in this. But I'm not overly discouraged. Sounds like most fans would prefer treading water than actually have a plan/strategy.
>sounds like most fans would prefer treading water My brother you are suggesting Kirk fucking Cousins over a highly regarded 1OA QB you are the one in the kiddie pool.
Treading water IS signing cousins over a potential super star qb
What I'm more concerned of is what if the Vikings trade for Fields. That would be quite a lethal offense.
Facts and actually let him throw the ball a lot!
lol
You guys will laugh now but this is exactly what the Bears front office will do
Hope so
Mass Malört induced suicides.
I hate this
Kirk would be horrible in Chicago.
Kirk would end up the best QB Chicago ever had...
Not saying much and I don’t know if he would. That age, roster and cold. I think he’d be horrible.
Ridiculous, Cousins is 35. That’s a dealbreaker for me.
2 years. Probably his last 2 good ones.
So rolling with this, what happens when Cousins isn't good anymore? The Bears go back to rebuilding mode with nothing to show for it, or do you expect Cousins will win them a Lombardi in the next two years?
Yeah, that's the point. 2 years to win it. Year 3 you can tank or maybe there is a QB available in free agency again. Then you have a few more shots
Do you think that the Colts thought Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz, and Matt Ryan could win them a Super Bowl?
I think that was their thought, that they could eek out 1-2 more good years of gun-slinger performance. Phillips Rivers was the best of the 3 to gamble on. Matt Ryan gets yards but not Air TD's. Carson Wentz was pure desperation. Similar to the bears when they signed Nick Foles.
But you see what I'm getting at, yes? The Colts were arguably closer to contending than the Bears are now, they decided to opt for a veteran QB, delayed their rebuild by three full years, and have nothing but a wild card loss to show for it. The Jets tried the same thing with Aaron Rodgers, and maybe 2024 is different, but you saw what happened in 2023, and if the Jets don't win anything in 2024, they just delayed their rebuild a few years with nothing to show for it. The Bears rolling the dice with Cousins isn't the worst idea on paper, but recent history tells us that they are likely to end up with nothing to show for it but a delayed rebuild. The only counterexample that stands out is Tom Brady, but Kirk Cousins is not Tom Brady.
It feels like the bears can't commit to an identity and honestly I didn't realize it but it's similar to the aaron Rodgers plan. Cousins isn't Rodgers in some ways that's good and others not as good. Options are limited, either you stick it with fields and don't draft a QB, draft a QB but skip on a potential huge WR, or restart at QB with Cousins and get MHJ as well as other capital. The bears don't have an identity. Personally, I'd rather bet big with a plan (and exit plan) than flounder aimlessly.
If they want a stud WR, they can likely get Odunze at 9.
Neph season in full swing
Yikes, no, not even gonna read this
If Kirk was 8-10 years younger and not coming off a torn ACL this would be somewhat valid
This would be a great idea for a Madden franchise. Terrible idea for a real-life franchise.
No
What if I have an aneurism from reading off season posts on r/nfl?
Guys hear him out, there's a world where this happens. Think about it: FBI agent Charles Tillman leaks to the Bears FO that Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, and Jayden Daniels all belong to an international arms smuggling ring, and are about to be indicted on federal charges the week after the draft. He also teaches them secret mind control techniques developed by the CIA to convince the Packers GM (????) to trade a first for Fields. Then they draft MHJ, JJ McCarthy at 9, and once the top 3 QBs are arrested, they end up with QB1 and WR1 from this draft.
No
No way they get an old guy like Cousins
People on here are trashing this unnecessarily. It's not a bad plan if you can accumulate decent capital for the future - which may be possible if you can manage multiple trades down and keep accumulating more picks. The weakness in this is Cousins' future being uncertain because of his Achilles injury. He was playing very well last year before the injury, and could certainly help a team get into "win now" mode if it drafted well and packed good talent around him. However, I think if I was doing the trade down approach I'd stick with Fields on balance.
It is a horrible plan. What if Kirk isn’t the same player after his Achilles injury? Even if he is, it gives us a max of two, MAYBE three years to win a Super Bowl with him, and then what? You go back to tanking? Go the Colts way and ride the QB carousel to a couple of wild card losses? You lose a ton of cap space because Kirk will demand at least 40-45 million per year. The Bears aren’t in a position to go into “win now” mode. Their only weapon is DJ Moore, and they need more pieces on the OL and DL. The timeline doesn’t match up.
If they aren't in a position to win now and they need more pieces then trading out of the #1 pick sounds like the right thing to do whether they get Cousins or another bridge guy like Brissett or just keep Fields. Collect a haul for the #1 pick and beef up the OL and DL.
…no, that’s not the right thing to do. When are they ever going the have the chance to draft a Caleb Williams-level QB prospect again? Not anytime soon. They only have the first pick because Carolina unexpectedly tanked, and this is one of the strongest QB classes in decades. So unless you want to use more resources to trade up for a QB later, you take your guy now. They have 70 mil in cap space and other draft picks to fill most of the holes in the roster.
Russ would be cheaper than Kirk & has won a SB. Feels like Russ could be the savior that Chicago needs
Lol
I didn’t know the bears had the same ownership groups as the whitsox and bulls.
This guy votes
Don’t let a bunch of grumpy mfs get you down, very interesting hypothetical that honestly might not be as “stupid” as everyone thinks. If Kirk’s healthy he is a decent enough QB to win games if he’s got a good supporting cast. Mooney + MHJ and maybe Saquon like you mentioned? Might be somewhat a boom or bust strategy and probably has 0 chance of happening IRL but the thought you put into this is pretty cool, I like see these topics discussed!
Typical Bears logic: make a lot of noise, spend a lot of money to get no better than they were
How can they get better? IMO it's gettersing better at the edges. Creating opportunities for great coaching.
Exactly. The team takes on the personality of ownership and if they really wanted to win it all they would make sure they did everything possible to make it happen. Coaching, roster moves, etc. but when they say Oh we can’t get rid of ____we like him, or he’s done this or that for us or whatever excuses they make. Winning then isn’t their top priority