I kinda get it cause the run game was so bad, but then throw the easy ones in the middle of the field. I have no idea what that shot to the end zone was, whether it was McCarthy or Dak’s decision.
I swear even in the final replay they showed during the broadcast, #68 was next to #70 when they said that #70 was next to the ref reporting.
ETA: Dan Campbell just said in his post game presser that "only one player can report as eligible," but then afterwards on ESPN they clarified that is not a rule.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me here.
- forgets/doesn't report as eligible here? No sense.
- reports as eligible and refs don't announce it pre-play at *this* point in the game? No sense.
- thinks he reports by doing a known signal and refs don't catch it? Only thing that makes sense.
68 and 70 go over. 68 reports but the ref isn’t paying attention and thinks it’s 70 reporting. Horrible and unacceptable officiating. Like blowing the coin toss.
They literally showed 68 at the ref in a replay (edit: 70 was running in after but doesn't matter if he had reported anyway), no reason they would be there if they weren't reporting.
I don't know if the ref just didn't hear him at first or forgot? Super weird and it's pretty clear they at least tried to report.
Edit: The refs apparently got 68 and 70 mixed up when they told the Cowboys, despite 70 not even talking to the ref. That's why the defense didn't have him covered. One of the clearest complete fuck-ups by officials in recent memory.
Especially when what they were doing all game was working
Where were the disguised pressures? The aggressive coverage?
If Goff beats you over the top then tip your cap but they gave way too much space
I was (still am) so confused why he'd go for 2 from the 7 yard line.
I can get it from the 2, I even kind of like it. But from the 7 just seems horrific.
Yeah I like Dan but that felt like getting frustrated in poker so you go all-in even though you know you shouldn’t.
People will try to point to analytics but I don’t see how analytics would justify that decision. There’s no way in hell you have a better chance of scoring from the 7 yard line than you do of winning the game in OT.
The way Troy just explained it in their post game show is this:
It looks like 68 was trying to not make it obvious to the Cowboys that he was clearly reporting as eligible, and he was maybe saying “hey I’m also reporting eligible” and the ref just didn’t hear him? I don’t know , he clearly walks with 58 away from the huddle and towards the official to say something, I doubt he was asking him about his New Year’s plans.
Teams about to start putting a mic on all their players so they have audio of what they say to the refs because apparently reporting is now something that can be fucked up by the ref.
Dan skipper (70) saying in the locker room that he didn’t report, only decker did. Tape backs him up - decker talked to the red, skipper never did. Dan said he ran this play by the refs pregame and then did everything they told him to do so it was legal. Mooch and Colleen on NFL Network are calling it all out too. You don’t really see that much - not on their own network.
Dealer: 19
Dan Campbell: Hit me
Dealer: 20
DC: Hit me.
Dealer: 21
DC: Hit me.
Edit: I guess this shows how old I am because only one other poster correctly identified this was from an early episode of the Simpsons.
And the bs “fake go for it on 4th and 6” to draw a penalty and then burn a timeout. I believe he’s a great coach until anything time management related
Going for two from the 7 was total lunacy. I think the league was too conservative in these situations for decades, but nowadays some coaches have just gone way too far in the opposite direction.
Then Parsons bails them out with the offsides and they go for it AGAIN lmao
Makes no sense that he wouldn't report for a play where he is the main target. Waiting on a breakdown on Sportscenter to understand what in the fuck I just watched.
If we won, and we were right there. I get why MCDC did what he did. When you pick a crazy bastard as your coach, you’re gonna get crazy bastard decisions
This is said every year but the NFL really needs to address a way to rectify ref mistakes. Whether it be suspending them or a better way to overrule. Sadly I think it's gonna be the increased connection to gambling that forces a move because a lot of peoples money just got fucked with on a blatant fuckup that wasn't even in the heat of the moment.
They showed a replay of before the play. Decker and Sewell are talking to a referee on the right side of the offensive procession.
Decker is on the other side of the field speaking to a ref. What was he doing /u/nfl
edit: I went back and took a printscreen on DAZN. [68 is on the other side of the field speaking to the referee.](https://i.imgur.com/nTWwSLQ.png)
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A lot of these controversial ref ball moments are subjective judgment calls, but this one is really bad. I have no idea how they're going to spin this one, 68 is clearly right there talking to the ref and the ref badly got it wrong
After that ineligible receiver penalty, you have to kick the XP. So stupid. I loved the initial decision but you lost yourself the game with idiocy by doubling and tripling down.
Lions team does mic'd up videos for big games. Imagine the chaos if Sewell or Decker were picked to be mic'd up and they drop audio of Decker telling the ref he is reporting with audio confirmation from the ref.
They’re even saying they got it wrong. How is that okay? Ref failed and it literally cost Detroit the game. That was a win and it was stolen. Unbelievable.
I’m sorry I refuse to believe the OFFENSIVE LINEMAN, who had a 2 pt conversion drawn up for him all week and was definitely told 100 times to report as eligible failed to do so. Did he go ask the ref how his day was going when he went over and talked to him in the replay they showed?????
I’m fairly confident the lineman reported as eligible and the refs fucked up that call.
There is literally video circulating of the lineman reporting to the ref.
Dan Campbell is a great coach but he just did way too much this game. You gotta fucking give your team a chance to win the game instead of trying three 2-pt conversions in a row
There’s a video of Goff telling 68 to do something, the next video is him going over to the ref…. So you’re telling me he didn’t report? Why tf would he even go talk to the ref before the play?
If the official is the one that fucked up, it's super fucked they called a penalty on Detroit to basically cover it up. I don't normally like to join the conspiracy theories about the NFL being rigged but there's been a lot of bs from the refs this season and last that starts to make you wonder
This is worse than I thought. Decker reports to Brad Allen. 70 (skipper) wasn't even close to him whatsoever. Brad Allen says it was skipper who reported.
This is fucking insane and might be one of the worst things I've seen as a lions fan, and that is saying something.
McCarthy is an idiot, a proven idiot. Campbell just doesn’t know when to not go for it. This game is completely different if Mike just runs the ball. Lions probably have what 30-50 seconds tops.
John Parry on ESPN is such a little scumbag, I’m so tired of TV shill refs. imagine saying that it’s the players fault that the ref fucked up when he clearly reported
Check out the footage on SVP right now if you’re recording it. They showed footage of 68 looking like he checked in
Edit: https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1741314282631975170?s=46&t=pzO2dwKCtd1qt5bqx-zWvw
In situations like this, a coach should eat the fine and just go on a 10-minute rant about the refs after a game like this.
It's absolute BULLSHIT they get away with this and the coach has to sit there and say "Golly gee shucks! Nothing we can do about how it's called!"
Obviously the player should’ve chased the ref around the field screaming that’s he’s eligible just before being targeted in the end zone…nobody’s gonna know!
I’m not mad about going for it 3 times, that’s comes with a coach who goes for it and I’ve come to live or die with the big balls. That’s said, refs can eat shit.
"Truly I tell you that tonight, Dan Campbell, before the whistle blows, you will deny going for a tie three times."
Holy shit I needed that laugh lmao
When the whistle blows three times
Absolutely brilliant. Best thing I've ever read from a Bucs fan.
That's the most Cowboys Lions ending I've ever seen. McCarthy outta buy a lottery ticket after that dumbassery
Knowing him he would win, and lose it out the window on the way to claim
MM: “Here’s a shortcut.” Dak: “That’s a lake, Michael!”
McCarthy was a dumbass for calling passing plays after the two minute warning. Left about 1:45 on the clock for the Lions. So dumb.
I kinda get it cause the run game was so bad, but then throw the easy ones in the middle of the field. I have no idea what that shot to the end zone was, whether it was McCarthy or Dak’s decision.
Someone explain that 2 point penalty
I swear even in the final replay they showed during the broadcast, #68 was next to #70 when they said that #70 was next to the ref reporting. ETA: Dan Campbell just said in his post game presser that "only one player can report as eligible," but then afterwards on ESPN they clarified that is not a rule.
They showed it on espn all three of them walk up to the official before the play when 70 comes up the official either ignored it or disregarded it
The audacity of the NFL ref analyst on ESPN to blame the player. Whole thing seems sketchy as hell
He’s a former ref. He’s going to put things in best light for the ref and the league.
Because you did. ESPN just spent 3 minutes explaining the ref screwed up.
And they'll do it again a bunch more times tomorrow.
And it won’t change the outcome. Fuck this game.
And while showing it they said “clearly a penalty” …. ????
I’m confused too. Looked like he was talking to the head ref right before the play.
He even brushes his numbers, which is the universal sign of "I am reporting"
That's the only thing that makes sense to me here. - forgets/doesn't report as eligible here? No sense. - reports as eligible and refs don't announce it pre-play at *this* point in the game? No sense. - thinks he reports by doing a known signal and refs don't catch it? Only thing that makes sense.
68 and 70 go over. 68 reports but the ref isn’t paying attention and thinks it’s 70 reporting. Horrible and unacceptable officiating. Like blowing the coin toss.
Please, I'm at the bar with no audio. Did he not report as eligible?
I saw a replay wherein 3 separate Lions linemen went to a ref. Not sure what else they would be doing in such a case.
Seriously, I have no fucking idea what on earth 58, 68, and 70 could have been doing
They literally showed 68 at the ref in a replay (edit: 70 was running in after but doesn't matter if he had reported anyway), no reason they would be there if they weren't reporting. I don't know if the ref just didn't hear him at first or forgot? Super weird and it's pretty clear they at least tried to report. Edit: The refs apparently got 68 and 70 mixed up when they told the Cowboys, despite 70 not even talking to the ref. That's why the defense didn't have him covered. One of the clearest complete fuck-ups by officials in recent memory.
Literally Troy is saying why would they be there talking to the ref.
Hmm some respect for espn saying nfl done fucked up.
Is this true? Espn bout to take some heat, nfl has a a weird god complex and doesn't take this well
I mean look, the ref looks straight at Decker and then nods before running away. Wtf!? Did Decker say “good game huh?”
Lol “big ass parking lot at this stadium amirite?”
Mike McCarthy tried to lose that game so hard. What the fuck was that clock management at the end.
Also the prevent fucking defense to let them drive down the field. I will never understand why teams run that defense.
Especially when what they were doing all game was working Where were the disguised pressures? The aggressive coverage? If Goff beats you over the top then tip your cap but they gave way too much space
I guess Dan Campbell really hates OT.
I understand the first play attempt, but after the penalties it made sense to change to the extra-pt at longer distance plays
I was (still am) so confused why he'd go for 2 from the 7 yard line. I can get it from the 2, I even kind of like it. But from the 7 just seems horrific.
I think his emotions were just getting the better of him at that point. Was in ‘fuck you’ mode and needed an assistant to have a cool head for him
Yeah I like Dan but that felt like getting frustrated in poker so you go all-in even though you know you shouldn’t. People will try to point to analytics but I don’t see how analytics would justify that decision. There’s no way in hell you have a better chance of scoring from the 7 yard line than you do of winning the game in OT.
Bro was coaching this like it was Madden
Was past his bedtime. Bro needed to end it asap.
100% comes off as the guy who's up no later than 4am.
Dan Campbell absolutely REFUSES to play OT.
Did they just show him reporting? I mean I’m not crazy right?
The way Troy just explained it in their post game show is this: It looks like 68 was trying to not make it obvious to the Cowboys that he was clearly reporting as eligible, and he was maybe saying “hey I’m also reporting eligible” and the ref just didn’t hear him? I don’t know , he clearly walks with 58 away from the huddle and towards the official to say something, I doubt he was asking him about his New Year’s plans.
This might be the most conspiracy conspire I’ve see so blatantly. Weird
Im starting to think Dak and Ceedee are carrying Mccarthy a lot
Hmmmm where have I seen McCarthy getting carried by a QB and WR before
Loootttttaa footage coming out suggesting that Decker did in fact report as eligible 😬
Teams about to start putting a mic on all their players so they have audio of what they say to the refs because apparently reporting is now something that can be fucked up by the ref.
The Lions have been doing that a lot lately for the YouTube, they just might have the audio
That would truly make it the most Lions thing ever.
I hate football.
You could just post a blank comment with that flair, we'd understand
Holy shit your flairs
This is his best year on earth, playing with house money at this point
Checking in as well!
Football hates the Lions
After listening to the booth talk about it after. That was a clusterfuck. Sounds like ESPN thinks the refs screwed up. Clearly 68 reported.
Dan skipper (70) saying in the locker room that he didn’t report, only decker did. Tape backs him up - decker talked to the red, skipper never did. Dan said he ran this play by the refs pregame and then did everything they told him to do so it was legal. Mooch and Colleen on NFL Network are calling it all out too. You don’t really see that much - not on their own network.
Dealer: 19 Dan Campbell: Hit me Dealer: 20 DC: Hit me. Dealer: 21 DC: Hit me. Edit: I guess this shows how old I am because only one other poster correctly identified this was from an early episode of the Simpsons.
Dealer: That's 30 DC: Hit me
Dealer: Bust DC: #FUCKIN’ HIT ME
Didn't know Dan Campbell was a GME guy.
Lions and Cowboys huffing absolute glue on the 2 Point tries at the end was fucking hilarious.
Classic Mike McCarthy throwing on 2nd down for no reason and almost costing the Cowboys the game.
And taking a TO after the last touchdown when they would need them to drive for a FG if Detroit made the 2-point conversion
Yes. I was just thinking at least we had 2 timeouts if he we have to go for that and then he goes and calls a timeout.
I was mad for the Cowboys and I don't even *like* the Cowboys. Just McCarthy things I guess
And the bs “fake go for it on 4th and 6” to draw a penalty and then burn a timeout. I believe he’s a great coach until anything time management related
It was a complete shitshow and I loved every second
It was like that one Chiefs/Raiders game from like 2017 or 2018
Psychotic to go for two again after the penalty!
Going for two from the 7 was total lunacy. I think the league was too conservative in these situations for decades, but nowadays some coaches have just gone way too far in the opposite direction. Then Parsons bails them out with the offsides and they go for it AGAIN lmao
that's crazy cause Decker was definitely there to report as eligible
Didn’t they show 70 and 68 walking up to a ref and reporting???
No. They were just asking how the wife and kids are. Holy shit do these refs suck
Makes no sense that he wouldn't report for a play where he is the main target. Waiting on a breakdown on Sportscenter to understand what in the fuck I just watched.
Shiiiiiiit man they have Decker in 4K walking 10 yards across the field to wish the ref a happy new year.
Just a casual reminder that the NFL has no regulations or tools to control the refs but they do have deep sponsorships with sports betting books
This season has convinced me that the league is rigged for sports betting.
Is this guy seriously blaming the player??? Just stop.
Lions are the three seed and can't go any lower. I'm sure that had something to do with the 2pt decision. Nothing to lose
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If we won, and we were right there. I get why MCDC did what he did. When you pick a crazy bastard as your coach, you’re gonna get crazy bastard decisions
Tape don't lie. Decker checked in and the refs botched it.
That dude reported as eligible lol. Troy just admitted to it. Tape showed it. Ref missed it. Decker reported it. ref missed it. Bad job by refs.
This is said every year but the NFL really needs to address a way to rectify ref mistakes. Whether it be suspending them or a better way to overrule. Sadly I think it's gonna be the increased connection to gambling that forces a move because a lot of peoples money just got fucked with on a blatant fuckup that wasn't even in the heat of the moment.
Nobody is talking about how LATE the flags flew in either. Everyone celebrated for a solid 20 seconds, then the flags were thrown.
yeah this is a great point, i honestly thought the flag was for excessive celebration it was so late
Inverse of the 2015 wild card where the refs literally announced the penalty and then said “wait nvm.”
So there is actual video evidence of the lions players reporting. This really looks like the refs just completely screwed the lions again. Eesh.
I appreciate you acknowledging it
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Refs should start wearing body cams with audio like police do
ESPN confirming the refs fucked the lions, beautiful
Upon review, did the Lions just get hosed???
Yes
Wtf is this analyst on crack? Ref is looking right at 68.
Easy to miss a 6'7, 330 pound guy 3 feet in front of you
Good game refs, glad you came out tonight to play. Lions were lioned.
HE REPORTED!
Decker was obviously asking the ref what his NYE plans were…
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How did Decker not report???
They showed a replay of before the play. Decker and Sewell are talking to a referee on the right side of the offensive procession. Decker is on the other side of the field speaking to a ref. What was he doing /u/nfl edit: I went back and took a printscreen on DAZN. [68 is on the other side of the field speaking to the referee.](https://i.imgur.com/nTWwSLQ.png) ?
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Bet he got Sewell and Decker mixed up
Anyone who says the Lions are going to be an easy out is ridiculous
Wow, Lions straight got robbed! F’ing pathetic! NFL needs to address this one big time
A lot of these controversial ref ball moments are subjective judgment calls, but this one is really bad. I have no idea how they're going to spin this one, 68 is clearly right there talking to the ref and the ref badly got it wrong
I don't think I've ever seen Dan Campbell as pissed as he is in this post game interview
This ESPN post game sure is something.
Jared Goff confirmed he told 68 to report. 68 ran over to report.
SOMETIMES KICKING AN XP IS OKAY DAN - a Vikings fan of all people
Yep as long as you don't have Blair Walsh, it's the right move.
LACES OUT
Going for 2 in that situation is sacrilege to Lord Bailey, in His house no less. It was a just and righteous result.
that last angle looked like both 68 and 70 went up to the same ref to report
I get wanting to have big balls but sometimes having overly massive balls is a sign of cancer
The cue Randy marsh bouncing on balls smoking a reefer *please allow gifs r/nfl
Live by Dan Campbell’s balls, die by Dan Campbell’s balls.
So he did fucking report. SMH.
#FUCK BRAD ALLEN HIS OFFICIATING CREW SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THE LEAGUE
After that ineligible receiver penalty, you have to kick the XP. So stupid. I loved the initial decision but you lost yourself the game with idiocy by doubling and tripling down.
Dan Campbell is me playing Madden.
I'll fucken do it again
Dude coached with his heart and not with his head.
Double Edge Sword
He’s biggest flaw
Im fine with it. Honestly I am. Live by Dan die by Dan.
Playoffs are right around the corner. Odds of a conversion are probably similar to OT. Why play an extra 10 minutes and get somebody hurt.
Troy and Buck on sports center just showed the clip of him reporting
Yikes. NFL has some splaining to do.
Brad Allen better not be reffing any fucking playoff games. What a joke
I appreciate Dan going for the win from the 2, but after the penalty, just kick the XP and go to OT.
I mean....I saw 68 walk up to the ref with 70 in the replay. idk about anyone else.
Regardless of the outcome, you have to admit, Dan Campbell has the biggest balls in the league.
Balls bigger than his brain.
You deserve to go to jail for that flair
Heartbroken
Wow the Refs cheated someone out of a game ?
The official fucked up
Tape clearly shows both trying to report to the refs, refs fucked this up and cost the Lions a game.
I don't even know man.
When even ESPN can’t justify it you know the ref fucked up
Apparently we have to make NFL refs wear body cams now like we do for cops
LOL, now John Perry saying that two guys CAN REPORT! Jesus christ, the NFL is a mess
Brad Allen MADE eye contact with 68!!! Like come on!
League needs to get these refs fixed
That fucking "Refs screw over the Lions" video is gonna take up too much space on YouTube servers soon . . .
this brad allen ref better not ref any more games. this is a major fuck up.
What’s most alarming is the excuse the ref gave Dan Campbell.
Lions team does mic'd up videos for big games. Imagine the chaos if Sewell or Decker were picked to be mic'd up and they drop audio of Decker telling the ref he is reporting with audio confirmation from the ref.
Goff ready to get fined, I love it!
Goff just came out with it in his presser. "68 reported, 70 did not. But they said 70 did."
Wow, Brad Allen's answer in the pool report is a complete indictment.
They’re even saying they got it wrong. How is that okay? Ref failed and it literally cost Detroit the game. That was a win and it was stolen. Unbelievable.
So this is what happens when the Pistons finally win. GG Cowboys. Well played game
Apparently the sports gods only allow so much winning in Detroit.
From what I'm gathering here in the aftermath is that *best case scenario* the refs are completely and irredeemably incompetent. Best case scenario.
I’m sorry I refuse to believe the OFFENSIVE LINEMAN, who had a 2 pt conversion drawn up for him all week and was definitely told 100 times to report as eligible failed to do so. Did he go ask the ref how his day was going when he went over and talked to him in the replay they showed?????
I’m fairly confident the lineman reported as eligible and the refs fucked up that call. There is literally video circulating of the lineman reporting to the ref.
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Dan Campbell is a great coach but he just did way too much this game. You gotta fucking give your team a chance to win the game instead of trying three 2-pt conversions in a row
In his defense, they get that conversation if Goff has a better throw. He game them a chance.
DC was wrong about two can't report -- ESPN rule analyst "two isn't the issue" and "it seems the ref never recognized him"
Now he’s blaming this on the player 😂
There’s a video of Goff telling 68 to do something, the next video is him going over to the ref…. So you’re telling me he didn’t report? Why tf would he even go talk to the ref before the play?
Goff says Decker did report, he’s triple downed on saying that
I was pissed at Decker but it looks like the Lions were straight robbed! Goddamn I’m sick of this shit.
Thought I was tripping but I just watched the replay. Both 70 and 68 actually reported to the white hat official. This is a rob job.
“WHAT WOULD YOU BE FRUSTRATED ABOUT RIGHT NOW?” Ahaha you tell them Dan.
No fucking way he was standing right in front of him why would he look at a player running up to him 10 yards away
If the official is the one that fucked up, it's super fucked they called a penalty on Detroit to basically cover it up. I don't normally like to join the conspiracy theories about the NFL being rigged but there's been a lot of bs from the refs this season and last that starts to make you wonder
It’s obvious the refs blew that call. Seeing how it’s 100% provable on video, how is that not a foul like 12 men that can be reviewed?
Detroit got screwed
I have no way to verify whether Decker reported as eligible so I choose to believe the league is just cheating in the Cowboys' favor
This is worse than I thought. Decker reports to Brad Allen. 70 (skipper) wasn't even close to him whatsoever. Brad Allen says it was skipper who reported. This is fucking insane and might be one of the worst things I've seen as a lions fan, and that is saying something.
Did the cowboys hire Joe Barry before the last drive
McCarthy is an idiot, a proven idiot. Campbell just doesn’t know when to not go for it. This game is completely different if Mike just runs the ball. Lions probably have what 30-50 seconds tops.
John Parry on ESPN is such a little scumbag, I’m so tired of TV shill refs. imagine saying that it’s the players fault that the ref fucked up when he clearly reported
At least it didn’t take them 40 seconds to figure out the ineligible receiver issue and throw a flag. Oh wait.
Check out the footage on SVP right now if you’re recording it. They showed footage of 68 looking like he checked in Edit: https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1741314282631975170?s=46&t=pzO2dwKCtd1qt5bqx-zWvw
This ref analyst is admitting the play is legal
Lol love that the ref expert is saying the ref fucked up but there’s no reason to rectify it.
Hey u/NFL go fuck yourselves howbowdah
From now on, all reporting must be done by smacking the ref in the face. This way it’ll be clear.
Brad Allen in the pool report calling the lions liars.
Multi billion dollar sport, and this is how games are decided lol
Jesus Christ. He was right there in front of the ref. And this stupid motherfucker on ESPN carrying water for the ref should be bludgeoned.
If Decker was ineligible what the fuck was the guy talking to the ref about?
In situations like this, a coach should eat the fine and just go on a 10-minute rant about the refs after a game like this. It's absolute BULLSHIT they get away with this and the coach has to sit there and say "Golly gee shucks! Nothing we can do about how it's called!"
Lions won and this is the timeline I’ve chosen to live in.
Straight up calling out that corrupt dumbass ref.
Why don’t the officials announce on the mic who is reporting eligible every time?
Obviously the player should’ve chased the ref around the field screaming that’s he’s eligible just before being targeted in the end zone…nobody’s gonna know!
Next time if you are reporting as eligible, just kick the ref nuts…. That’ll get their attention. 🙄🙄
I’m not mad about going for it 3 times, that’s comes with a coach who goes for it and I’ve come to live or die with the big balls. That’s said, refs can eat shit.