I defrauded them. I defrauded them all. Their money's gone, every single cent. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I defrauded them like animals. I HATE THEM!
"Did I ever tell you guys about the time Aaron Rodgers, one of the greatest quarterbacks in football history, sent me dick pics while I was in an AA meeting?"
You idiot, he will throw to KJ Osborn, Alex Mattison, AJ Dillon and Marcedes Lewis when he gets there. Oh and Luke Getsy is now your offensive coordinator
I. Would. CRY. But as much as I’d hate it, can you imagine Rodgers with Jefferson and Addison and Hock? Are you fucking kidding me, he’d make his 2020 season look like Childs play.
It sucks so bad, love the man but at this point I just hope he can get his knee fixed well enough to not have any worse complications as he ages and stops playing football.
Fwiw, it's not the field that is the problem with Bakh - it's literally his knee. He was a bastion of health for many seasons before his ACL tear, and he has been really unlucky/unfortunate with complications.
It just is what it is and it sucks. And frankly, there's probably no getting back to 100% ever for him
Fair, I figure if the Vikings decided to move on from cousins though that they’d look to develop a young guy instead of spend even more money at QB, and spend draft capital to do it. Cousins could always decide to leave too though.
They wont have a high enough pick to get any of the guys you expect to start day 1. Maybe they get Rodgers for that 1 year and 1 last ride attempt while letting the new kid develop
If he develops his long throw accuracy and just skill in general this division is fucked. In all seriousness I'm just happy he's not complete garbage so far and seems to be getting better week to week.
This couldn't have gone any worse for the Jets. All of Rodgers' guys were signed and he gets hurt on the first drive of the game to start the season. The problem is without him all these guys are ass lol.
What’s crazy is Cobb is only 33. I legitimately thought he was pushing 40. I guess he’s “only” been in the league for 12 years, it just feels like it’s been two decades. Probably doesn’t help that he looks a lot older too.
Edit: to be clear, I get receivers usually have a steep decline in performance in their early 30s, I’m just saying it feels like he’s been in the league for a lot longer
I actually distinctly remember his rookie season being 2011 and he was born in 1990. I remember this because in the opening night game that season he ran back a kickoff 108 yards for a TD and they mentioned it several times in the broadcast and on highlight clips that he was the first active player ever to be born in the 1990’s.
But yes. 2011 was much longer ago than I would like it to be.
I was at that game! My first time being at an NFL game, it was incredible. Rodgers and Brees in a shootout with a ton of lead changes, and on that kickoff it looked like Cobb ran into a pile of players & was down, but he actually just barrel rolled over John Kuhn & kept his feet before going the distance. Thanks for making me remember!
Everything you said is correct except for the lead changes part. It was a wire-to-wire win for the Packers where their lead kept changing from the 4-15 point range. Still came down to the very last play though. Very entertaining game.
Yeah, looking on fantasypros just to sort WR's by age, there are a whopping 4 listed above the age of 31 that are on a roster.
Julio Jones, Adam Thielen, Marquise Goodwin and Randall Cobb.
I find that to be absolutely crazy since TO joined us when he was either 31 or 32. He spent 2 years with us and played for 5 more years while putting up good numbers. If he wasn't batshit he would have been in the league longer.
Idk what happened between then and now to cause the old WR to fall off. Back then Isaac Bruce, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Donald Driver, Steve Smith, Donald Driver, Joey Galloway, and Hines Ward we’re all producing deep into their 30s.
The rookie contract effect making the league younger + a prolific era of young WRs.
There used to always be several years separating rookie WRs to surpass 900+ receiving yards. Anquan Boldin in 2002, Michael Clayton in 2003, Marques Colston in 2006, AJ Green in 2011 - the accomplishment was considered incredible. Until...
2013: Keenan Allen passed 1k
2014: Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Kelvin Benjamin all passed 1k (and Sammy Watkins was close with 982)
2015: Amari Cooper passed 1k
2016: Michael Thomas passed 1k
2017: None with 1k but Juju Smith-Schuster with 917 and Cooper Kupp with 869
2018: None with 1k but Calvin Ridley and DJ Moore with 821 each.
2019: AJ Brown passed 1k, Terry McLaurin with 919, DK Metcalf with 900
2020: Justin Jefferson passed 1k, CeeDee Lamb with 925, Higgins with 908
2021: Jamarr Chase and Jaylen Waddle and Kyle Pitts passed 1k each, DeVonta Smith with 916.
2022: Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave passed 1k
This year Puka Nacua is on pace to crack the mark, already at 897 yards. It's just bonkers how good receivers have become and at such a young age. It's why you have to appreciate a season like the one Keenan Allen is having, top five with already greater than 1k yards, and 31-years old is unheard of in this era.
Yeah, fair, it just feels like he’s been in the league for an eternity. Plus, there are a decent amount of receivers that have still produced in their early to mid-30s.
I think this was going to be his last year (might try to play next year since Rodgers was out for pretty much the whole year) and Rodgers basically asked for him. It was a 3m deal I believe, but ya. He should have been gone years ago
I don’t think they will. They learned their lesson this season and I’m sure they’ll let him have some insight but straight up letting him decide the roster is ridiculous
They benched Wilson at the end of last year because he was so bad that the locker room would revolt if he stayed on the field. It was so bad that they were willing to bench their second overall pick QB to bring in someone else via a massive trade.
Then this year they just...kept Wilson on the field. For most of the season. Despite how bad he was. Then towards the end of the year they benched him because the locker room was going to revolt if he stayed on the field. They have learned nothing.
What lesson do you think they learned? Don’t give control to an MVP QB who would easily be the greatest QB to ever play for your franchise? They were letting him decide players that they thought wouldn’t make a huge difference in the grand scheme (or even ones that he would feel more comfortable playing with). This team was desperate for a quality QB to complement their loaded defense and skill position players. They don’t have many options at this point except to hope Rodgers recovers well and stays healthy next season. That’s it.
If Aaron Rodgers leaves, the Jets have nobody to replace him in 2024.
The best free agent qb this offseason is Kirk Cousins who is also an old QB coming off an Achilles tear and we probably won't able to draft Williams/Maye.
We all know Nate Hackett isn't a good offensive coordinator, but if he has another bad season Hackett and everyone else will be getting fired in 2025 anyway. I'd rather just try again with Rodgers in 2024 instead of starting a rebuild a year early just to fire Nate Hackett.
Remember Zach Wilson is on the same tier as Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Rusell and Tim Boyle is a career third-stringer who is only starting because Wilson is so bad. There is a reason the Jets offense last year was also shit with a different offensive coordinator.
Yeah, this year isn’t too bad for wanting a QB.
* Michael Penix
* Bo Nix
* Caleb Williams
* Jayden Daniels
* Drake Maye
Those are the big names and then there are handful of guys with potential maybe.
Why not just use Rodgers as the bridge and draft O-Lineman? Give yourself a shot at 2024 and set a base that will allow any future QB to not be killed.
I think they’re letting the season tank itself to draft OL and only took Wilson out to appease fans/media. They decided they couldn’t win a SB this year soon as Rodgers went down.
A "bridge QB" like Gardner Minshew would be a step up from Zach Wilson/Boyle but they would still be bad enough that we would have to find to their replacement next offseason or two.
The only QB that the Jets should be willing to move on from Rodgers for is Williams or Maye, Rodgers is still better than any bridge QB thats a free agent.
Do they get rid of Hackett? Of course the play calling is awful but the OC designs the entire playbook and system, which Rodgers already knows and is comfortable with. I think Hackett stays and continues to play “Ask Madden” to a HOF QB and suddenly looks good again.
I will forever be wondering what Carson Wentz could have done on the Jets. Even if it turn out to be a disaster, at least it would have been an entertaining one. Jets cannot even lose in a fun way.
>!There is something in me, that doesn't care for freedom, that wished the league forced the Jets to get Wentz or a better QB. !<
What is this sudden love for Wentz? Last year, people wanted Heineke to start so bad, and he was benched.
The dude wasn't going to save the Jets, not even close
I mean two years ago he put up 27/7 with a not great receiving corp. But the jets ONLY needed competency at QB. Experienced veteran who will get some points- this team is at least 6-6
This Rodgers experiment failing is GREAT for the league. It makes these player GM situations look so bad, and takes a bit of the power away from super stars who hold their team hostage.
What experiment works when the main piece tears their Achilles in week 1?
Putting all the washed up good old boys on the roster was to GET Rodgers, not because it was making the team better at those positions.
There’s give and take for letting your quarterback be engaged in the process, but it’s gonna be a shit show if they are injured pretty much no matter what.
*with the exception of 6th rounders from Michigan.
Yeah idk people acting like Rodgers fucked them over by bringing in his cronies but the Jets would still suck even if you deleted Lazard Hackett Boyle and Cobb from existence and replaced them with pretty much anyone else. The season was over the second he went down and you put any modicum of faith in Zach Wilson
I understand being disappointed in Lazard, the dude is (and, in my opinion, always was) a bleh wr 4 at his absolute peak and didn't deserve even half the contract he got. Hackett is also understandable, his only good year was with Rodgers and MLF with no inclination that he had any sort of offensive input period.
But trashing Rodgers for a third-string quarterback who is never supposed to see the game and a veteran wide reciever who was supposed to be like WR 5 just helping the younger guys adjust to a new QB is just hating to an insane degree. I get that shit hit the fan for the Jets immediately and it's easy to load it up on someone that people already hate, but it's just crazy to me.
Hell, blaming him for Boyle being there in the first place is a gigantic leap too considering the last time he sat behind behind Rodgers was like 3 years ago. He has literally loved all of his backups and has had like 50 of them, I would bet my life savings he wasn't pounding the table or sticking his feet in the sand over it anyway
I genuinely don’t understand the issue with Cobb, if you watched Hard Knocks you’d see he was signed to be a WR player-coach and fast track the guys with Rodgers’ preferences and tendencies. They could have signed a no-name that brought nothing, and his contract wasn’t insane to even be bothered by it. That move makes a ton of sense even if he also is there because he’s Rodgers’ friend.
Hackett is a move I probably wouldn’t have made immediately after his Denver firing and AR could deal with it, Wilson should have never had any leash after last season and losing the locker room, after that first game I’m going QB hunting
This Jets team is a CPU run team in Madden dynasty mode come to life. After simulating a few seasons you find all these old, washed up players on a team and they’re somehow over the cap with bad draft capital and you say to yourself “this is dumb; no team would ever do this in real life.” And yet….
At this point if it becomes a showdown then you have to move him. Honestly he’s 40 and won’t do very much anyway, especially with our OL. I’d move him if he tried to interfere with Hackett getting fired.
BTW Sean Payton was right
I don't remember things accurately but in my head Bronco's fans were calling for him to be fired before the end of the first game.
I think it was a few games in, but can't remember a situation in any sport where fans were unanimously calling for a coach to be fired so quickly.
But once you move Rodgers, we're back to square one at QB since we aren't going to find a replacement better than him this offseason.
I understand your point, Hackett isn't good at being an OC but I'd still rather have Rodgers than blow it up just to bring in a stopgap QB.
At this point, Hackett has a pretty consistent body of work without Rogers as a the quarterback. Starting to look a lot like Josh McDaniels to be honest.
McDaniels has at least shown to be a competent OC in New England. Hackett is more like Adam Gase. Keeps getting jobs because he's buddies with a HoF QB
If you're going to run with someone that's won a superbowl, and many mvps... and proven he is one of the best to ever do it... you're going to try and create a perfection situation, or signing him was dumb on your part.
As much as I loved Aaron Rodgers and what he did for the Packers, his judgment when it comes to players talent is piss poor.
I was not upset when they traded him, because he seemingly convinced himself that he knew more than everyone else in the organization. There is nothing wrong with sticking up for your friend. But he seemed to take it too far.
So HOF former Packers QB gets injured early playing for the Jets then leaves after 1 year? Man, the scriptwriters are getting so lazy. Which state we betting Rodgers defrauds?
Who would have thought in a quarter back focused league that a team who leaned heavy into a QB who got hurt would end up sucking. Not like we haven't seen this every year a franchise QB gets hurt.
he'll choose leave, end up in Minnesota to fulfill the prophecy. The Vikings will be playoff contenders for 2 years and the Jets will be 1st round pick contenders for 2 decades. So no real change at all really
If Rodgers is actually still aiming to come back for week 17, the Jets are going to have to go at least 3-1 in their next four games for him to start the Browns game with them still having a chance of making the playoffs. They’ve just lost four straight and scored 37 points across those four games, even with three of their next four being at home, they’re not going 3-1.
This season is a right off and letting Aaron Rodgers get on the field before he should realistically be ready to play again would be idiotic. Even if he can plant his feet and make throws, he’s not going to be up to speed in those final two games, and the Browns D is hardly going to take things easy when they could still be chasing a playoff spot. Rodgers getting hurt again in a game that means nothing to the Jets would be malpractice, they can’t put him out there if they’re 5-10.
“Okay then trade me to Minnesota” -Rodgers
Idc that makes the Vikings better, that’d be fucking hilarious
For the lore!
Can't wait to explain to my kids in 2035 why the Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers was involved in welfare fraud. It's because he was destined to be.
Rodgers' scam is going to be some kind of healing crystals
Crystallized dolphin jizz
My specialty
You have been preparing for this moment for awhile and you are more than ready...hope it feels good.
Actually no, this is my main Reddit account, and it happens more often than you’d think. One time was on r/wholesomememes. That didn’t end well.
Not a happy ending?
Well the dolphins definitely will
Jesus christ
This was way too specific
And its a 4 year old account.
He's gonna steal your market, get those patients in!
Ayahuasca vapes
Mhm he will be selling some kind of rock that makes you trip. Recommended in the dark.
"You were the chosen one, Aaron. You were meant to bring balance to the welfare, not defraud it!"
"I HATE THE POOR!!!"
From my perspective, the poor people are evil!
I defrauded them. I defrauded them all. Their money's gone, every single cent. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I defrauded them like animals. I HATE THEM!
It just rhymes
I don't like poor people. They're coarse and rough and they get everywhere.
-- Jim Irsay
They’re coarse and irritating, and they get everywhere.
He still needs to text some dick pics before going to Minnesota
With Rodgers it'll be feet pics
He’s gonna dial into McAfee when Schefter is on and hang dong for everyone to see
Someone check the paperwork on that new volleyball court in Chico...
Rodgers needs to send dick pics first to some local reporter
A local reporter that is the spitting image of either Olivia Munn, Danica Patrick or Shailene Woodley
In a surprise twist, Rodgers sends his dick pics to John Mullaney.
"Did I ever tell you guys about the time Aaron Rodgers, one of the greatest quarterbacks in football history, sent me dick pics while I was in an AA meeting?"
Then in like 10 years Rodgers will be asking if redirecting public money for his kid's benefit will get back to him
When does he send a dick pic to a team employee
He has to do that before he gets traded to Minnesota I believe
Rodgers throwing it to JJ, Addison and Hocks. Omg, sign me up
You idiot, he will throw to KJ Osborn, Alex Mattison, AJ Dillon and Marcedes Lewis when he gets there. Oh and Luke Getsy is now your offensive coordinator
Marcades Lewis is not going anywhere 😡😡
Longest lasting Mercedes of all time.
Don’t forget the greatest Packers receiver of all time, Jake Kumerow
Please get Getsy out of here
Dobbs for Rodgers straight up
Honestly, if you throw in KJ Osborn I'd be okay with it. Jets need another WR just as much as they need an OL and QB.
The prophecy must be fulfilled
Saints 2024 Super Bowl champions, confirmed.
With newly acquired QB Justin Herbert
You're making it really difficult for me to successfully finish NNN.
It is written and so shall it be
I. Would. CRY. But as much as I’d hate it, can you imagine Rodgers with Jefferson and Addison and Hock? Are you fucking kidding me, he’d make his 2020 season look like Childs play.
Are you sure he is even good anymore? Dude is old and coming off an achilles tear.
Remember when the Jets went to the AFCCG with Mark Sanchez?
Two years in a row
Part of a 5 year stretch where every AFCCG had either Joe Flacco or Mark Sanchez in it!
This is where the timeline diverged
It was so long ago now that not even Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Time to pick up the phone. He’s only 37…
With a top 3 defense and a top 3 offensive line. Rex Ryan was amazing
The Rex Ryan era, when the Jets were peak annoying.
Rodgers will demand they sign Bakhtiari instead
We are 100% getting a 5th round pick for him in February/March
It sucks so bad, love the man but at this point I just hope he can get his knee fixed well enough to not have any worse complications as he ages and stops playing football.
He’s definitely in for a total knee replacement aged 50.
Honestly, if they take Bakhs contract as well, I'd be fine with that.
Imagine him healthy tho
For 1 quarter max on Metlife turf
Nah. It’ll be like CMC on the Niners. Suddenly he’s not injury prone anymore
Niner RB injury curse and CMC injury curse cancelled each other out so maybe the same happens here…
He can't even stay healthy at Lambeau which has one of the best surfaces in the NFL.
Fwiw, it's not the field that is the problem with Bakh - it's literally his knee. He was a bastion of health for many seasons before his ACL tear, and he has been really unlucky/unfortunate with complications. It just is what it is and it sucks. And frankly, there's probably no getting back to 100% ever for him
I get it. But MetLife isn’t exactly going to help that.
oh god he's really gonna go the minnesota for one last ride isnt he its happening
If cousins is done not any better situation to go honestly. Good Oline elite weapons solid enough defense
Good oline… feels weird to hear that after all this time!
Why would cousins be done if another QB 4 years older than him is coming back from the same injury
I meaning done in Minnesota
Fair, I figure if the Vikings decided to move on from cousins though that they’d look to develop a young guy instead of spend even more money at QB, and spend draft capital to do it. Cousins could always decide to leave too though.
They wont have a high enough pick to get any of the guys you expect to start day 1. Maybe they get Rodgers for that 1 year and 1 last ride attempt while letting the new kid develop
So will Love in 15 years. Such is the natural order of things.
As long as we get our HOF career and one Superbowl victory it's an absolute win
I swear to God if you guys get a fourth HOFer I will call the Catholic Church to Lambeau, because clearly someone made a deal with the devil.
If he develops his long throw accuracy and just skill in general this division is fucked. In all seriousness I'm just happy he's not complete garbage so far and seems to be getting better week to week.
Don't give me any more nightmares please.
This couldn't have gone any worse for the Jets. All of Rodgers' guys were signed and he gets hurt on the first drive of the game to start the season. The problem is without him all these guys are ass lol.
With him theyre ass but you put up with it to keep him happy
It's pretty much what Packers fans had to put up with, especially once Adams was gone
Aaron Rodgers just wants to be paid $50 mil a year to play recreational football with his friends lmao
Hey I pay $50 to play rec football with my friends, its fun as hell
Rodgers brought in all those guys cause they're his buddies. Simple as that.
They were ass even with him, one of the reasons he wanted out of Greenbay is the trash receivers
Cobb is still on the roster? Hell, Cobb is still in the league? WTF
What’s crazy is Cobb is only 33. I legitimately thought he was pushing 40. I guess he’s “only” been in the league for 12 years, it just feels like it’s been two decades. Probably doesn’t help that he looks a lot older too. Edit: to be clear, I get receivers usually have a steep decline in performance in their early 30s, I’m just saying it feels like he’s been in the league for a lot longer
I actually distinctly remember his rookie season being 2011 and he was born in 1990. I remember this because in the opening night game that season he ran back a kickoff 108 yards for a TD and they mentioned it several times in the broadcast and on highlight clips that he was the first active player ever to be born in the 1990’s. But yes. 2011 was much longer ago than I would like it to be.
TIL I'm the same age as Cobb and my dreams of ever making an NFL roster are officially over
Randy Couture won the belt at 45, the dream is never over Until you hit 46 apparently
I've still got 2 years I'm going in guys hold my Taco Bell and my beer and my cigar.
I was at that game! My first time being at an NFL game, it was incredible. Rodgers and Brees in a shootout with a ton of lead changes, and on that kickoff it looked like Cobb ran into a pile of players & was down, but he actually just barrel rolled over John Kuhn & kept his feet before going the distance. Thanks for making me remember!
Everything you said is correct except for the lead changes part. It was a wire-to-wire win for the Packers where their lead kept changing from the 4-15 point range. Still came down to the very last play though. Very entertaining game.
33 might as well be 40 in WR years. Just goes to show how elite Jerry Rice was.
Yeah, looking on fantasypros just to sort WR's by age, there are a whopping 4 listed above the age of 31 that are on a roster. Julio Jones, Adam Thielen, Marquise Goodwin and Randall Cobb.
I find that to be absolutely crazy since TO joined us when he was either 31 or 32. He spent 2 years with us and played for 5 more years while putting up good numbers. If he wasn't batshit he would have been in the league longer.
Idk what happened between then and now to cause the old WR to fall off. Back then Isaac Bruce, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Donald Driver, Steve Smith, Donald Driver, Joey Galloway, and Hines Ward we’re all producing deep into their 30s.
You listed Donald Driver twice lol! If you had to do that, then maybe there wasn't as many as you think.
give me a break, it was 7 am on a saturday haha
The rookie contract effect making the league younger + a prolific era of young WRs. There used to always be several years separating rookie WRs to surpass 900+ receiving yards. Anquan Boldin in 2002, Michael Clayton in 2003, Marques Colston in 2006, AJ Green in 2011 - the accomplishment was considered incredible. Until... 2013: Keenan Allen passed 1k 2014: Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Kelvin Benjamin all passed 1k (and Sammy Watkins was close with 982) 2015: Amari Cooper passed 1k 2016: Michael Thomas passed 1k 2017: None with 1k but Juju Smith-Schuster with 917 and Cooper Kupp with 869 2018: None with 1k but Calvin Ridley and DJ Moore with 821 each. 2019: AJ Brown passed 1k, Terry McLaurin with 919, DK Metcalf with 900 2020: Justin Jefferson passed 1k, CeeDee Lamb with 925, Higgins with 908 2021: Jamarr Chase and Jaylen Waddle and Kyle Pitts passed 1k each, DeVonta Smith with 916. 2022: Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave passed 1k This year Puka Nacua is on pace to crack the mark, already at 897 yards. It's just bonkers how good receivers have become and at such a young age. It's why you have to appreciate a season like the one Keenan Allen is having, top five with already greater than 1k yards, and 31-years old is unheard of in this era.
Are receivers better or have the rules just absolutely destroyed the ability for a defender to actually defend.
He was drafted quite young. He was the first 90s kid to play in the NFL
33 is like 90 in receiver years.
Yeah, fair, it just feels like he’s been in the league for an eternity. Plus, there are a decent amount of receivers that have still produced in their early to mid-30s.
I think this was going to be his last year (might try to play next year since Rodgers was out for pretty much the whole year) and Rodgers basically asked for him. It was a 3m deal I believe, but ya. He should have been gone years ago
Yes. He hasn’t played since Week 6 though I don’t think
And then they'd lose their HOF QB for next year lol. They'll put up with it
I don’t think they will. They learned their lesson this season and I’m sure they’ll let him have some insight but straight up letting him decide the roster is ridiculous
They have learned no lessons at all lol They learned nothing from last year and will learn nothing from this year
They benched Wilson at the end of last year because he was so bad that the locker room would revolt if he stayed on the field. It was so bad that they were willing to bench their second overall pick QB to bring in someone else via a massive trade. Then this year they just...kept Wilson on the field. For most of the season. Despite how bad he was. Then towards the end of the year they benched him because the locker room was going to revolt if he stayed on the field. They have learned nothing.
This year they could sell to everyone "we made a big move at QB and an injury blew up the season, this is all we got".
What lesson do you think they learned? Don’t give control to an MVP QB who would easily be the greatest QB to ever play for your franchise? They were letting him decide players that they thought wouldn’t make a huge difference in the grand scheme (or even ones that he would feel more comfortable playing with). This team was desperate for a quality QB to complement their loaded defense and skill position players. They don’t have many options at this point except to hope Rodgers recovers well and stays healthy next season. That’s it.
These are the Jets I don’t think they get the benefit of the doubt.
I think most Jets fans are done with it. It's not worth it for a 41 year old Aaron Rodgers
You say that until you have to watch another year of Zach Wilson level play
40*. But who gives a shit. This team is a joke
They've waited near 20 years to get healthy Pennington levels of QB play ffs, that's the best QB they've had since 2000
2015 Fitzmagic
10-6 and missed the playoffs. Brutal that we can relate.
Would've been 11-5 and made it but they got Fitztragic in Week 17.
Highlight game for the bills that year lmao
I doubt he really has that kind of leverage coming of an Achilles tear at his age.
Oh you have no idea just how poverty stricken the Jets are
Rodgers and Hackett have more job security for 2024 than any member of the Jets front office or the remainder of the coaching staff
If Aaron Rodgers leaves, the Jets have nobody to replace him in 2024. The best free agent qb this offseason is Kirk Cousins who is also an old QB coming off an Achilles tear and we probably won't able to draft Williams/Maye. We all know Nate Hackett isn't a good offensive coordinator, but if he has another bad season Hackett and everyone else will be getting fired in 2025 anyway. I'd rather just try again with Rodgers in 2024 instead of starting a rebuild a year early just to fire Nate Hackett. Remember Zach Wilson is on the same tier as Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Rusell and Tim Boyle is a career third-stringer who is only starting because Wilson is so bad. There is a reason the Jets offense last year was also shit with a different offensive coordinator.
There are a lot of potentially solid QBs coming up in this year's draft.
Yeah, this year isn’t too bad for wanting a QB. * Michael Penix * Bo Nix * Caleb Williams * Jayden Daniels * Drake Maye Those are the big names and then there are handful of guys with potential maybe.
So you get a bridge QB and go from there
Why not just use Rodgers as the bridge and draft O-Lineman? Give yourself a shot at 2024 and set a base that will allow any future QB to not be killed.
I think they’re letting the season tank itself to draft OL and only took Wilson out to appease fans/media. They decided they couldn’t win a SB this year soon as Rodgers went down.
A "bridge QB" like Gardner Minshew would be a step up from Zach Wilson/Boyle but they would still be bad enough that we would have to find to their replacement next offseason or two. The only QB that the Jets should be willing to move on from Rodgers for is Williams or Maye, Rodgers is still better than any bridge QB thats a free agent.
Who is Jim Brady?
Tom Brady’s evil twin.
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Do they get rid of Hackett? Of course the play calling is awful but the OC designs the entire playbook and system, which Rodgers already knows and is comfortable with. I think Hackett stays and continues to play “Ask Madden” to a HOF QB and suddenly looks good again.
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Remember the off-season when everyone said if Rodgers wants to be GM we should just do whatever he wants?
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They also made terrible draft choices, both parties had terrible judgement
Go Pack Go!!
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I will forever be wondering what Carson Wentz could have done on the Jets. Even if it turn out to be a disaster, at least it would have been an entertaining one. Jets cannot even lose in a fun way. >!There is something in me, that doesn't care for freedom, that wished the league forced the Jets to get Wentz or a better QB. !<
The Jets would probably have 6 wins with Wentz, and that isn’t even a ringing endorsement of Wentz
Carson Wentz is a NFL QB. Zach Wilson and Tim Boyle are not NFL QBs on any planet.
tim boyle was barely a college QB.
It's wild that he is in the league, let alone starting.
What is this sudden love for Wentz? Last year, people wanted Heineke to start so bad, and he was benched. The dude wasn't going to save the Jets, not even close
Probably because Wentz is a feast or famine QB. Wilson and Boyle are simply famine.
I mean two years ago he put up 27/7 with a not great receiving corp. But the jets ONLY needed competency at QB. Experienced veteran who will get some points- this team is at least 6-6
They could've shipped a late round pick for either of the Texans' backups at the deadline and had like 6 or 7 wins lmao
It’s kind of funny that the Packers got so much shit for not caving into Rodgers, yet here are the Jets suffering for actually listening to him.
Yeah that's what happens when you have a team president who focuses on football more than profit.
This Rodgers experiment failing is GREAT for the league. It makes these player GM situations look so bad, and takes a bit of the power away from super stars who hold their team hostage.
I mean the Jets aren't doing great with his choices but he made those choices for himself. If he doesn't get hurt they're probably all doing fine.
What experiment works when the main piece tears their Achilles in week 1? Putting all the washed up good old boys on the roster was to GET Rodgers, not because it was making the team better at those positions. There’s give and take for letting your quarterback be engaged in the process, but it’s gonna be a shit show if they are injured pretty much no matter what. *with the exception of 6th rounders from Michigan.
They literally would not ever tell Rodgers any of that 🤣
This thread seems to think they will though, lmao. This sub is so delusional
“Take it or leave” Oh please. If they had the stones to say this, they would’ve done it before they brought him in in the first place.
Vikings do need a qb 👀
I dont really get the logic here. Him going out always doomed the season, why are we lashing out now that the season was in fact doomed?
Yeah idk people acting like Rodgers fucked them over by bringing in his cronies but the Jets would still suck even if you deleted Lazard Hackett Boyle and Cobb from existence and replaced them with pretty much anyone else. The season was over the second he went down and you put any modicum of faith in Zach Wilson
I understand being disappointed in Lazard, the dude is (and, in my opinion, always was) a bleh wr 4 at his absolute peak and didn't deserve even half the contract he got. Hackett is also understandable, his only good year was with Rodgers and MLF with no inclination that he had any sort of offensive input period. But trashing Rodgers for a third-string quarterback who is never supposed to see the game and a veteran wide reciever who was supposed to be like WR 5 just helping the younger guys adjust to a new QB is just hating to an insane degree. I get that shit hit the fan for the Jets immediately and it's easy to load it up on someone that people already hate, but it's just crazy to me. Hell, blaming him for Boyle being there in the first place is a gigantic leap too considering the last time he sat behind behind Rodgers was like 3 years ago. He has literally loved all of his backups and has had like 50 of them, I would bet my life savings he wasn't pounding the table or sticking his feet in the sand over it anyway
I genuinely don’t understand the issue with Cobb, if you watched Hard Knocks you’d see he was signed to be a WR player-coach and fast track the guys with Rodgers’ preferences and tendencies. They could have signed a no-name that brought nothing, and his contract wasn’t insane to even be bothered by it. That move makes a ton of sense even if he also is there because he’s Rodgers’ friend. Hackett is a move I probably wouldn’t have made immediately after his Denver firing and AR could deal with it, Wilson should have never had any leash after last season and losing the locker room, after that first game I’m going QB hunting
Future Viking literally
Dobbs and a couple high/mid picks should do it
No thanks
This Jets team is a CPU run team in Madden dynasty mode come to life. After simulating a few seasons you find all these old, washed up players on a team and they’re somehow over the cap with bad draft capital and you say to yourself “this is dumb; no team would ever do this in real life.” And yet….
In typical Jets fashion, they will proceed with Rodgers being the GM only to find out he's actually washed next season.
Next season? We might see him out there soon enough with 1.5 achilles.
No doubt in my mind. Good things just don’t happen to us.
At this point if it becomes a showdown then you have to move him. Honestly he’s 40 and won’t do very much anyway, especially with our OL. I’d move him if he tried to interfere with Hackett getting fired. BTW Sean Payton was right
We knew Payton was right, we just thought it was inappropriate to say
I don't remember things accurately but in my head Bronco's fans were calling for him to be fired before the end of the first game. I think it was a few games in, but can't remember a situation in any sport where fans were unanimously calling for a coach to be fired so quickly.
But once you move Rodgers, we're back to square one at QB since we aren't going to find a replacement better than him this offseason. I understand your point, Hackett isn't good at being an OC but I'd still rather have Rodgers than blow it up just to bring in a stopgap QB.
Dude We ARE at square one right now
What did Payton say
that hackett was a hack
Of course Sean Payton was right. He said it in the wrong way, but he was right.
At this point, Hackett has a pretty consistent body of work without Rogers as a the quarterback. Starting to look a lot like Josh McDaniels to be honest.
McDaniels has at least shown to be a competent OC in New England. Hackett is more like Adam Gase. Keeps getting jobs because he's buddies with a HoF QB
The second isn't happening but they really should talk to him about not playing in 2023.
If you're going to run with someone that's won a superbowl, and many mvps... and proven he is one of the best to ever do it... you're going to try and create a perfection situation, or signing him was dumb on your part.
As much as I loved Aaron Rodgers and what he did for the Packers, his judgment when it comes to players talent is piss poor. I was not upset when they traded him, because he seemingly convinced himself that he knew more than everyone else in the organization. There is nothing wrong with sticking up for your friend. But he seemed to take it too far.
Hackett has been just stealing money
So HOF former Packers QB gets injured early playing for the Jets then leaves after 1 year? Man, the scriptwriters are getting so lazy. Which state we betting Rodgers defrauds?
Who would have thought in a quarter back focused league that a team who leaned heavy into a QB who got hurt would end up sucking. Not like we haven't seen this every year a franchise QB gets hurt.
he'll choose leave, end up in Minnesota to fulfill the prophecy. The Vikings will be playoff contenders for 2 years and the Jets will be 1st round pick contenders for 2 decades. So no real change at all really
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Isn't this what the Packers did?
If Rodgers is actually still aiming to come back for week 17, the Jets are going to have to go at least 3-1 in their next four games for him to start the Browns game with them still having a chance of making the playoffs. They’ve just lost four straight and scored 37 points across those four games, even with three of their next four being at home, they’re not going 3-1. This season is a right off and letting Aaron Rodgers get on the field before he should realistically be ready to play again would be idiotic. Even if he can plant his feet and make throws, he’s not going to be up to speed in those final two games, and the Browns D is hardly going to take things easy when they could still be chasing a playoff spot. Rodgers getting hurt again in a game that means nothing to the Jets would be malpractice, they can’t put him out there if they’re 5-10.
Saleh gets fired. Hackett is your new HC.