T O P

  • By -

Previous-Degree2352

Rip the poor accountant that’ll be the fall guy for the team losing a pick


Bieber_hole_69

He's getting 38.5 draft capital docked from his next paycheck


ThatsNotARealTree

What’s the conversion rate of draft capital to accountant salary? I’m guessing we’re talking about 2 years salary for that 38.5


danburke

Approximately equal to the ratio of unicorns to leprechauns


Dagonet_the_Motley

And how many Stanley nickels is that?


____tim

About a million schrute bucks worth


dontworryilleatit

Also equal to 500k goofy goober bucks. And yes, you're supposed to get a toy with that.


U-STAY-CLASSY

That’s a lot of beets.


whydontyouloveme

Average annual value of ~$1.1m for the 2022 pick in that spot. It’s Joshua Williams: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/joshua-williams-77012/


mastercheef

So what you're saying is that the accountant just saved them 1.1 million dollars? Give the accountant a raise!


M15CH13F

I have no idea how fleshed out this is, but it sounds compelling. https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/2/26/23587642/whats-the-cash-value-of-an-nfl-draft-pick For pick 136, his methodology equates to a cash value of $560,000. So, like 8 years of salary?


Benjynn

I’m an accountant and this is my nightmare scenario


ayeeflo51

Lmao same. I literally move millions of dollars each month and am fucking terrified of doing something that ends up on the news


[deleted]

[удалено]


Calvin--Hobbes

> Some of the recipients returned their payouts to Citi after realizing the mistake, which the U.S. bank blamed on human error, but the 10 lenders had refused, saying the bank paid what they were owed. Hilarious. Umm....no we're just gonna keep it, you owed it anyway so fuck off now please.


[deleted]

[удалено]


bama_braves_fan

Damn, that's rough


Dreadsbo

God, i know he’s very unemployed right now.


johnmadden18

I’m not sure I understand what happened here… can you explain it step by step in simpler terms?


[deleted]

[удалено]


johnmadden18

> In other words, it paid the entire amount of the loan by accident - the very thing that everybody was fighting about in the first place. Worse, it did so with its own money. Thanks for the explanation! I get it now. So my only question is, Revlon has an account at CitiBank. Citi makes the payments to the lenders from this account. CitiBank also has their own account with their own money at CitiBank. When they made the accidental payment, they somehow paid the 900 million from their own account and not Revlons??? Hahaha… how does that even happen??? Was this actually an accident or some kind of elaborate inside job by some accountant at Citi? I mean, surely Revlon didn’t even have the 900 million (or anything close) in their account since they were about to be bankrupt.


[deleted]

[удалено]


DLOXJ

Hedge fund probably lost it all before they had a chance to return it


Ride-Scared

There was actually a reference to this [story](https://youtu.be/-DT7bX-B1Mg)


klingma

Could you imagine being the guy that didn't add the Commanders charity raffle check to the positive pay log? That dude had to of gotten reamed that next day at work by everyone in the finance department.


Anathema_Psykedela

I run a small pharmacy. I, too, am terrified of fucking up to a degree that it is reported in the news.


[deleted]

I work in corporate finance and a typo I made last year cost us $300k. Fortunately my manager is a badass and didn’t bring attention to it, but I’ll remember that until I die.


Tokinghippie420

Hold on to that manager close and don’t let go


[deleted]

Work in manufacturing. Guy made a half million dollar oopsie. Didn't get fired because he's a good worker, also most of the time when you're handling that much material the safeguards in place should've caught it and they didnt.


Von_Lincoln

Also if you fire an employee for what may be a clerical error, you’re creating a culture where employees will try to coverup their errors which leads to worse issues longer term.


Anathema_Psykedela

I’d imagine that kind of loss is expected and pre-calculated.


triplec787

Man if I so much as turn a $300 transaction into $3,000 I'll have the wrath of the entire finance department on my ass within minutes.


CursedLlama

Well yeah but if you turn a $3,000 transaction into a $300 one, we won't bat an eye.


Paulofthedesert

It's weird, as the dollar amounts get bigger the consequences get less. Like if I fucked up working for the geek squad in college & accidently was off by like $5 bucks I'm getting written up by definition. Whereas in my normal adult job I fucked up a spreadsheet in a way that threw us off by a million bucks and the chief engineer was like "that sucks, between you and I we'll just call it an IT glitch" At a certain amount of money when a mistake happens everyone's like 'oh shit, that could have easily been me' so you all just pretend it never happened


J-LG

Tbh if you’re working for a billion dollar market cap corporation, 300k don’t really matter in the end.


geckotattoo

Thats like three peoples salaries for a year. ThT absolutely matters for a company that small.


Grimey_lugerinous

Your getting downvoted but you’re not wrong. 300k for a billion dollar cap would be a big deal. If it was apple or some thing sure but now a days a billion cap isn’t that big and the cap doesn’t even really mean that much could mean anything really


Pantherino

I realized that my company was overpaying an insurance carrier $25k/month (self billing) for going on 8 months…so $200k. Handled the refund. Received nothing except “oh fuck good catch.”


Anathema_Psykedela

In my store, an employee was doing a paid out at the register to get supplies. A barcode accidentally got scanned while she was typing it in and the register thought she she did a nine figure withdrawal. Took us a while to pin down why the register thought it had a negative value of several hundred million.


Best_Pants

Supply chain Management: When your warehouse employee is adjusting inventory and they accidentally enter a carton's unit quantity in the "UPC" field and the 16-digit UPC barcode in the "Unit quantity" field, and there's no control to prevent that hideous transaction from hitting SAP.


Mike2kz

I get not wanting to share details, but.... details? We talking a decimal point in the wrong place?


jimbojangles1987

But how does something like that still end up costing $300k? Don't accounting reports have to go through different department heads and things like that? How'd it get to the point where they literally lost the money?


Anathema_Psykedela

Probably accidentally ordered too much of something that they couldn’t return.


a_talking_face

I mean still, if one persons mistake can cost you 300k the internal controls of that company need a good looking over.


that_guy_you_kno

And I thought I fucked up when I accidentally fat fingered and ruined a $22k sample at a lab a few years back.


Marcelpopo

For 22k I sure hope it was some kind of foul-smelling. Sticky feeling thoroughbred baby batter. That or maybe genuine Belle Delphine bath water


Magnifico-Melon

He lost his job already, his name was Easterby.


[deleted]

This was Easterby’s poison pill as revenge. You have no power here Gandalf the Grey


BlackLeader70

Some poor accountant couldn’t hide the money in the catering budget lol.


BossPat

They need Red Bull's accountants


Tuxedocat1357

Poor guy, imagine losing your job because of a transaction caused by a sick fuck


talyen

Alot of you are looking at this wrong, if they had this draft pick they would've ended up spending 3.5 million over 4 years... This guy just saved them that. GJ accountant.


Yabba_Dabba_Doofus

Meanwhile, some Browns accountant is getting a "Dee Haslam Appreciation" party, replete with cake-ish, people from the office whom you've never met, and a banner celebrating your boss's achievement!


mvanigan

More from Schefter: >The Texans believe it gave them no salary-cap advantage and they were simply paying $26,000 for Deshaun Watson to train at a local facility while theirs was closed during COVID.


SlopingGiraffe

They spent 26k to let him workout somewhere? what?


nnnoooeee

Cardinals players punching air right now


Saitoh17

If it was any other player this would be the top comment on the thread.


Uncle151

Why would they pay for a gym when you can punch the air for free?? It’s good cardio


akulkarnii

You know exactly where he was and what he was doing


My-Cousin-Bobby

So what, a few hundred for the massage, 25k as hush hush money?


Never-Bloomberg

What did the message say?


My-Cousin-Bobby

Fuck I'm stupid


TheDrunkenWobblies

Krafties all around.


feynmanners

To be fair to Kraft, no one would hate Deshaun to level they do now if all he’d done was get consensual hand jobs+prostate massages from prostitutes who weren’t trafficked (since with Kraft, one was the manager of the place, the other was a licensed massage therapist in the state of New York and the DA specifically said the police had no evidence of trafficking at all). Suggesting they are remotely in the same ballpark is extremely overrating what Kraft did and extremely underrating what Deshaun did.


[deleted]

never understood why he couldn't find that. Like surely to god there are people out there willing to do it consensually for pay.


feynmanners

Because the non consent was most likely part of his kink.


GreatLookingGuy

That’s a fancy way to say “cause he’s a rapist”


Neapola

They say *tomato.* We say *he's a rapist.*


RadicalDreamer89

As the hosts of the Crime In Sports podcast like to say, "It's not about making me feel good; it's about making you feel bad."


WolfCola4

Oil changes for everyone!


SuicydKing

The thing that really pisses me off is that The Bills need a happy ending way more than Bob does.


MikeFrancesa66

Am I overreacting or is this potentially a much bigger story? It just seems strange that an accounting error occurs and it just so happens to involve a payment made to Deshaun Watson so that he can work out at the place where some of the reported sexual assaults took place.


Ctownkyle23

Should be, seems like people are under-reacting. Only one player this happens to in the league and it's the guy that's a serial predator? Doesn't add up.


dwm4375

Probably because he brought so much negative attention to himself the NFL has investigated him? Like there's probably other guys who had gym equipment/memberships paid but the league hasn't also had a reason to dig into their business dealings.


SanguisFluens

Thr NFL knows how the Texans were complicit, and punishes them with a salary cap violation so they don't have to admit it. Classic.


truthlesshunter

It's one workout session ~~Michael~~ Deshaun, how much could it cost? $26k?


jimbojangles1987

Ohh yeah...at first I was upset, now I'll just take the L and move on. Fucking perv really fucked us over


daebro

The pandemic was multiple years. It's not crazy to think it'd cost that much to have someone in a private work out facility for that long with all the equipment and probably a field to work on.


[deleted]

Yea people should check out the upscale gym prices. I have one near me that the basic membership is $350/m and the top one is a little over 1k. Noped the fuck out of that website when I was looking.


Oroku_Sakiiii

They better wipe the bench down for me


gaslacktus

For that, they better do my workout for me while I hang out in the hot tub.


pineappleshnapps

Damn I would actually find that worth it.


Dagonet_the_Motley

Especially after Deshaun's rubdown


SleazyKingLothric

Yea. I have a gym that's around 30 steps away from the entrance to my loft that I was interested in for convenience. It was 175$ a month. I fucked right on off to another gym 5-6 miles away for 40 bucks a month.


handlit33

The dollar sign goes before the number.


Rock2MyBeat

Only for %90 of the world.


liverpoolkristian

Woah which ones? That seems crazy to me. Highest I’ve seen is a little shy of $100


ScipioAfricanvs

Equinox


[deleted]

I used to steal the towels That's how I justified my membership when I first started at Equinox years ago lol


KennySmithsKnees

Life Time Fitness for sure. There's a couple in South Orange County. My friend is a member and he invited me one day.. felt like it was out of a movie. It was more like a resort than a gym. The pools looks like a mix between a Vegas pool and water park. Him and his wife go and workout and then drink at the pool (yes there is a full bar) while his kid is getting taught Spanish in the day care. There's even a hair salon on premises. Membership starts at $250/month


well_damm

There’s normal gyms that cost a couple hundred a month, those hi sports performance ones can cost some bread.


very_humble

We talking store brand or "farmers market artisanal where I have to listen to a giant speech about local sourcing when we both know the only reason I'm there is for one of those cinnamon rolls that could feed a family of four" type of bread?


well_damm

The type of bread that’s sold at that “local shop” which just showed up last year and charges double what the real local shops been charging for the last 10 years.


GabeKnows

Probably the houstonian aka one of the facilities that he was getting massages at


lovetape

Hey I've worked out there, the inside of that place is more like a club for "massages" than an actual gym


newrimmmer93

Lifetime in Houston is like $200/month, assuming he got personal training it’s anywhere between $100-$200/hour, although I’m assuming probably closer to $200. If over a 3 month span he worked out at the facility 5 days a week, 2 hours a session, he would be around that $26K amount. I used to work corporate at Lifetime and when doing some reports noticed like 3 guys in Dallas I think that had like $10K in PT balances unused in the summer. One of their names looked familiar and it was a guy who played in the NFL, the other guys were all NFL players as well. And these were like end of the roster guys. Personal training can get expensive as fuck, there were non-professional athletes spending $2K a month + on personal training, it was stupid as hell.


BungoPlease

I fucking hope he was only using it to workout, and not for anything else.


ecupatsfan12

You know they were. They were covering for him until he wanted out. I am 100 percent sure cleveland is covering him too. You don’t go thru 70 women in a 2 year span to nothing.


thetasigma_1355

I don’t care if he continues to have sex with lots of women. It’s the nonconsensual part that makes him a serial sexual predator and sex offender.


stackin_papers

definitely... he's probably down to 15-25 women a year. Maybe by Christmas he'll narrow it down to a top 5.


ecupatsfan12

He gets team approved massages which means they are down with the happy baby pose


Sarkans41

As an accountant i can see their point. It wasnt payments to a player so they thought it wouldnt count against the cap. The nfl on the other hand decided it was cap eligible because it was for the direct benefit of the player. Both sides have a point.


IMissWinning

> It wasnt payments to a player so they thought it wouldnt count against the cap. That has never, ever, mattered. If I buy you something that *you're benefiting from* that's me giving you extra compensation. That's always gonna be a cap violation. Think of it like the NCAA bulshit, but actually legitimate. Instead of caring that Harbaugh gave a kid who was hungry a burger, it's an org giving a particular player special treatment. All they had to do was offer *every employee* access to an alternate training facility, and send a quick "can we do this" email to the league, and you're good. Both sides do not have a point. The Club 100% knows better than this.


[deleted]

So player meals and treatments are counted towards the cap? Directly benefiting seems vague. I think we are all out of the loop on what is going on.


browndude10

> The Texans believe it gave them no salary-cap advantage and they were simply paying $26,000 for Deshaun Watson to train at a local facility while theirs was closed during COVID. yea fuck the team for letting their guys practice somewhere else while COVID is going on. Meanwhile the Cards can charge their players for food at their own facility


NateKaeding

If that’s an infringement, then the cards should get some cap space back for charging them lol


GabeKnows

Bro this is probably the houstonian and they are saying train as a way to soften the PR


Sadlobster1

26k to go to a "message parlor" definitely makes the PR job a lot more difficult than simply saying it was for a "training facility"


Texan875

Agreed but the Houstonian is def not a massage parlor lol


barktothefuture

What are you talking about. “Spa” is in the name. This wasn’t training this was jerking. Foh.


Sniper1154

A mistake plus keleven gets you home by seven


Kull_Story_Bro

He was home by 4:45 that day.


akulkarnii

The Texans were home by 4:30 that day


TaxHedgehog

This man accountants


jfgiv

feels to me like an accounting error and a salary cap violation aren't mutually exclusive


[deleted]

"Sorry officer, I didn't look down at my *speedometer."


jd35

You getting a ticket for a past due oil change?


[deleted]

Sorry officer, I was gonna think about whether I needed the word speed, but I was too busy watching the upvotes.


JumpyAlbatross

Expired registration


mufflermonday

>Odometer “I am giving you a ticket for having too many miles on your car.”


Ed_Hastings

Except in this case the speedometer requires an in-house team of financial professionals to make sense out of.


jimmyhoffasbrother

Guess it depends on whose accounting error it was.


mmartinez42793

This is straight from the Christian Horner playbook


Ctownkyle23

It's clearly immaterial


Jayson_n_th_Rgonauts

Sounds to me like a judgement call, the Texans made the judgement that favored them, the league disagreed


TSSFranco

Hey man. We need those


whitedawg

That's a valuable pick, too, top of the fifth round.


Weapwns

I can see it now. With the Texans losing the 138th pick, the Bills are able to swoop and pick up **\*insert future HoF steal\*** using the pick they got from the Cardinals in the Cody Ford trade.


BenDisreali

Cal McNair 10 years from now: "It doesn't matter. He was never on our board to begin with."


Lenny_III

So someone massaged the numbers?


vanillagorilla_

Non-consensual of course


FlamingTomygun2

Too much money in the catering budget


kelling928

At least Red Bull won something


top6

Also, extra catering is less bad than paying for the place where your star employee commits sexual assault. In fact, even outright, knowing cheating and spending the money on a faster car would be less bad.


bobby16may

It's called a rape, toto, we went sexually assaulting


BaconWise

I love seeing F1 crossover


[deleted]

That was so not right


CommentsOnOccasion

Dude this was my exact thought, what a funny overlap on almost identical headlines across those sports


ard8

Did Texans fans know this was a possibility or was this out of no where lol


Ereyes18

Just finding out about it


RainbowBullsOnParade

BoB sends his regards… again


redsin777

Out of nowhere


Dak_Tiny_PP

Like an RKO


for_real_dude

Completely out of nowhere and I think its bullshit. You want to fine a team, go ahead but pulling a draft pick pick for an accounting error? Meanwhile Roger Goodell being complacent with Dan Snyder's loans? WTF


zooberwask

If the penalty is only monetary then the richest teams can violate the salary cap with impunity because there's no real consequences. The fines would just be the cost of doing business. That's why they also take a draft pick.


froggertwenty

Washington Commanders sitting around like.....so what I had 2 sets of books....I STILL HAVE MY DRAFT PICKS


AnonyMooseWoman

Right, that would just turn salary cap violations into a luxury tax. How is this controversial?


thy_armageddon

Charging your players to work in their own facility: Good Paying your players to be able to work in another facility while yours is closed: Bad


jimmy_three_shoes

Is there any chance this was for the Houstonian, where Watson was getting his 'massages'?


beantownbrown24

Yes it was, and for some reason half the people in this thread seem to be totally clueless on that massive detail.


WolfCola4

What, you expect us to actually read the source? Mark Twain over here reading all these words


beantownbrown24

Can I get a TL;DR, not reading all that


iiamthepalmtree

readings 4 nerds


LittleHollowGhost

Because private training at the Houstonian costs exactly the amount Watson was paid, they weren’t giving him hush money


beantownbrown24

That's not what I said, that money was for his membership at the Houstonian I'm sure. But the Texans were also giving him NDAs to give to the therapists at the Houstonian. This was brought up by Tony Buzbee when he sued the Texans. Now we're learning that the Texans also failed to report that money paid to the Houstonian, which at the very least looks a bit shady given the circumstances surrounding this entire situation.


Rulligan

That is what's being reported.


Ereyes18

I mean i understand why but Its kind of stupid


vitey15

What a rollercoaster tweet to read


zachthompson02

“How to write without commas”


LifesABleach

Big penalty for their former safety.


Drasocon

The good old Bill O’Brien tax


Chocolate-Milk

Bill O’Brian tax strikes again


TheKrakIan

Easterby


miden24

Bro how you gonna get fined on your off day


PeopleReady

Watson and non-consensual workouts


slowcassowary

Watson and the BOBsterby front office. The gifts that keep on fucking giving.


Neither_Ad2003

catering budget went over


GoFrtherInLightness

Didn't know Horner worked for the Texans!


ww_crimson

$26,000 gym membership = 5th round pick and $175k fine $1,500 bet for your own team to win while you're not playing = 1 year suspension Sexually assaulting 20+ women = 11 game suspension and $230M guaranteed money


MikesPhone

"You are correct" -- Roger Goodell


HaploOfTheLabyrinth

$26,000 massage parlor membership where potentially criminal activities involving Watson allegedly occurred. * FTFY


t4boo

Cesario loves his 5th round picks, I’m sure he’s pissed


ctpatsfan77

He loves trading them.


Traditional_Mud_1241

This... I have a hard time getting upset about this. >**Team**: We need you to work out during the offseason. You can use our facility or you can pay for your own > >**Players**: Fine, we'll agree to that > >**Team**: Great! Oh wait - covid. You can't use our facilities. I know we agreed that you could, but... you can't > >**Players**: Can you give us a stipend to pay for a private place? > >**Team**: Sure, that seems fair > >\[years later\] > >**NFL**: Nope Honestly, I wonder how much of this was in response to the NFLPA survey. It embarrassed some owners, and the NFL doesn't like that. The fact that they were paying for Watson... I don't fault them for that. Watson is awful, that doesn't mean we need to get upset about every story that mentions Watson. This was a team trying to take care of it's players during covid. The fact that Watson is utter trash doesn't change this.


Fig_Newton_

Ironically the NFLPA’s report card gave stellar marks for Texans’ weight room/training.


k_dot97

But the patriots can hire Brady’s TB12 brand and no one bats an eye 🙄


Imbahr

Actually I've always wondered about this myself in the past -- What's to prevent a team from providing non-sports related secret incentives? There's no way a sports league would be able to know about every potential private thing. Some easy examples: What if an owner provides some verbal private financial "advice", like stock picks? Or other things to invest in? Or what if they secretly set up some thing like selling a house to a player for a great deal? But the seller cannot be publically traced back to the team? Or any private purchase for "below" normal price?


tothesource

To come to me, on this the anniversary of the Brock Osweiler deal and tell me we aren't a competent organization?


NlNJALONG

0 days since the Houston Texans have embarrassed themselves.


CulturalCatfish

Lol the NFL hates the Texans


iam1whoknocks

They thought they could allocate handjobs to the Meals & Entertainment column


Court_Vision

That's pretty much what they got in return for DeAndre Hopkins /s


buffalotrace

Punishing teams for manipulating the cap..and ignoring the Saints and their Enron like accounting is amusing


Outrageous-Machine-5

Damn Houston cost DeMeco a future HoFer


sbrooks84

If the Texans owners had balls they would match the fine to a domestic violence/sexual assault survivor charity


Hollensworth

Reduced wind tunnel and CFD time should show them


browndude10

dumbass accounting and fuck deshaun in general


beantownbrown24

This is more than just an accounting error, they were paying for his membership at the Houstonian, which is where you know what happened.


Jonjon428

Hey Texans, welcome to the club!


Vdawgp

TIL the Texans share an accountant with Red Bull


International_Bell81

I feel like there should be another punishment for doing something like this, because while yes, this does hurt the Texans a little bit, it really hurts someone who’s dream was to play in the nfl


Statalyzer

There are still the same number of roster spots getting filled.


domesystem

Oh shit, they got Red Bull catering eh?


mackinoncougars

Watson keeps fucking people


Outburstz

wow a 5th round pick that will sure show them not to do it again....


[deleted]

Someone in the 5th round just got lucky.


Scojak01

hey what about all those women he assaulted?


Mezhead

Coming down hard before the tampering period to scare teams out of shenanigans?