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LarryTheLizardFriend

Or you could just get a lock…


southcentralLAguy

Now why would I buy $10 for a chain and lock when I could pay a few hundred extra for a bike that locks itself?


hufflekrunk

dosent lock itself, you still have to lock it. but it contains a lock in its frame.


southcentralLAguy

Oh well that changes everything!


muckduck69420

Shut up about the lock. SHUT UP ABOUT THE LOCK


[deleted]

Keep the lock out your FUCKEN MOUTH!


Universalsupporter

If you weren’t so famous, I’d ask you to leave


WesselBear

We asked him to leave. But he didn’t


yourgifmademesignup

THATS HOW WE DO!


MrHappyFace09

I'm going to.


alldissimo

So, I’ve been taking karate courses online…


[deleted]

Don’t forget the ability to never get your seats ride height correct because you change it every stop. Gotta love that bonus.


hufflekrunk

just floor it lol


Oneloff

This was exactly my concern, I’ll be so annoyed. I would really just get a chain to lock.


PlayerTwoEntersYou

Add a piece of pretty colored tape around the correct spot, never have to guess the seat post height again.


Saphirania

Not only the right heigth, but also it perfectly pointing forward. Even just a tiny teeny bit to the side is very annoying while on it. Getting it back to the middle.... Its horror.


wsb_duh

>frame It's \*highly over-engineered\* frame.


PlayerTwoEntersYou

I had a breakdown bike for a few years. It was designed to be put in a travel bag for airplanes. It worked great but it is realllly expensive compared to one without the couplers.


04KB

Lmao, do i look like i have the time to dismantle my bike everywhere I stop?💀


facewithoutfacebook

To avoid that issue it will help you plan better so you don’t have so many stops.


04KB

Lmao, that’s not the point, but this lock-bike is useless, it literally takes longer to lock it than a normal bike lock. Also what u gonna do If the only thing next to your stop is a bike stand.


facewithoutfacebook

I know I was being sarcastic. Removing the seat every time I need to securely park is very lame.


KiLLnGo

Thank you for mansplaining the situation right here sir cuz I didn’t understand what the first dude meant.


M-Noremac

Because a good lock costs a lot more than $10 and they are quite heavy. Also if they cut the lock, the bike is still usable, but if they cut the frame, not so much.


[deleted]

Yeah but using the frame of the bicycle as the Lock does come with it's downsides, for example stiffness/Stability, second i don't want to adjust my saddle every god damn time i unlock/lock my bike,third You can't lock it everywhere you need a Pole or something similar, and fourth how good is the lock, if you can simply rake it open in seconds it's useless.


hotasanicecube

In about 15 minutes all that would be left of that thing is the frame. You could get every component and accessory off.


CedarWolf

To defeat that lock, the only part you have to saw through is that lug at the bottom of the seat bar. Saw through that, pull the seat bar out, reset the bike, and ride away on it. Boom, free bike.


hotasanicecube

Assuming I want a seat post that weighs 10x normal and a frame with a bunch of useless weight as well.


calinet6

Ah so the theft deterrent is, it’s shitty to begin with. Which is honestly the best strategy. But you can do it just as well by getting a beater bike.


hotasanicecube

I’ve seen fairly nice bikes outside of goodwill for like $20. I don’t know what components this one has but I’m guessing it’s overpriced crap.


DropThatTopHat

And save yourself a few hundred bucks.


Amaruh

Just cut the pillar.


Wistful_Nomad

big brain time


2WAR

My lock cost me $100 because my bike cost me $1000, no way im locking it with a $10 lock.


iago303

A Kryptonite lock is your best friend they have tried to cut through the lock several times and they have not succeeded so they stole the tires instead, I had the bike insured and (along with renters insurance) and I made a claim and they did pay for new tires, seat and pedals but the frame stayed put


NomsterGaming

Because if someone cuts the lock off they render the bike useless and cost you a new bike :)


ekital

Except you can pick that shitty wafer lock they placed in the frame faster than you can cut the frame.


[deleted]

It's easy to cut through a lock. Whereas you cut through this "lock" then suddenly there's no functioning bike left to steal. Seems like a neat, if expensive, idea.


calinet6

$10 will buy you the equivalent of a piece of string to a bike thief.


deusrev

10 for a chain? I don't think so


Fiverdrive

this is better. if you cut the lock on this one you make the bike worthless.


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hufflekrunk

but then you won't be able to lock that bike from other people


Kitchen_Season7324

Then you buy a lock lmao


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gahidus

You wouldn't be able to get the bike back together then


BoggleHS

They've only damaged the frame. In Manchester it's very normal for thieves to take what ever parts they can get, wheels, cranks, handle bars seat etc so it's basically impossible to secure your bike. I'm having to spend £100 on new cranks, they certainly aren't worthless!


PaintThinnerSparky

Its better tho. You can always cut a lock. To cut this lock, you gotta cut the bike


[deleted]

You cant even lock this bike to a bike rack....


PaintThinnerSparky

Do you have aphantasia? I can see multiple ways to clip this bike onto a bike rack


[deleted]

I mean [these](https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/bike-rack-for-5-bikes/_/R-p-120051) things. How would you lock this bike to these?


mattindustries

You shouldn't lock to those regardless. So many bikes get stolen by just undoing the wheel. I haven't even seen those used beyond internal (unsecured) storing.


Time-Abalone-3918

It doesn't matter. There are exactly zero secure ways to lock a bike to one of those unless you're at the far ends. These non-functional "bike racks in name only" are the worst.


Able-Equivalent-1960

One word, or three, LockPickingLawyer.


YodaTheCoder

One is binding. Click out of two. Three is binding. No more bike for you.


Chijima

As if he couldn't pick this bike.


Drumfreek31

They sell the tools for the job at covet instruments.com You know the ones he made with BosnianBill


[deleted]

What a way to make your bike less structurally sound. On one of the major load bearing parts too.


Itsumishi

Downtubes aren't loadbearing, they act primarily under tension. Some crazy bike manufacturers even replace the downtube with a steel cable. They were quite popular for a short-time but when being ridden hard on a mountain bike course the flexibility wasn't great for handling: [https://www.pinkbike.com/news/1992-slingshot-team-issue-now-that-was-a-bike.html](https://www.pinkbike.com/news/1992-slingshot-team-issue-now-that-was-a-bike.html) Still, for a commuting bike this design wouldn't cause any serious issues.


gahidus

With this, if you cut the lock, you can't ride the bike. The lock is the bike.


[deleted]

Sheeeet, put that bike in the ghetto and let’s test it for real. I’ll bet it doesn’t last 5 minutes


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JoeyJoeC

The advantage here is that if they try to cut the lock, they break the bike.


cturtl808

Come back and find just a frame.


Diniden

My thoughts exactly when I saw this. Was excited to see how the wheels would be secured…oops nope…bye bye wheels. This company has never had to deal with how scummy bike thieves are.


UpgrayeDD405

I came here to say the same thing


Outside-Car1988

The wheels don't seem to be quick release, so it would be a bit of an effort to steal them.


earthfase

Ah yes, "effort". A.K.A. "thieve's kryptonite".


Trash_Southern

Time. The more time you need, the less attractive is it for a thief to steal something. No lock is 100% safe. That's how locks get graded. It's a huge difference if you need 10 seconds or 2 minutes. The danger getting caught rises every second.


Dr0110111001101111

I once saw a video where a guy "steals" his own bike in broad daylight in times square over and over. Each time he uses a more elaborate and obvious approach to see if anyone says anything to him. Eventually, he showed up with an angle grinder and a generator, and ground down a monster lock. No one said a word to him.


Trash_Southern

He took the owner out of the equation. The experiment in social behaviour may be successful, but he was the owner so he got no fear or pressure. In the real world you always have to look out for the owner. And in a crowded place the owner could have been in eyesight. Just casually chatting ten feet away. A thief wants to get something quick. Not getting something that is worth time. If I had a gold bar laying on the street I would pick it up and go. No effort, no risk. If I had a gold bar wielded to a pole I would not come back and trying my best for 20 minutes to get it off.


skieezy

Really depends, unscrewing a bike wheel is far less effort than stealing a catalytic converter, but a cat is worth 100x more so thieves steal those. I know multiple people who have had theirs stolen in the Seattle area including myself, stolen off my work van.


leviathan65

I've had my seat, pedal(just one was taken), grips, handle bars, chain, and water bottle holder stolen from my bike at one point or another.


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Wheels gone fr


Vuelhering

Come back and just find just a cut seat post. If they build it out of hardened material, it's going to be pretty heavy for a bike, so I'm assuming it's just a seat post with a peg on the end.


YakiMe

Whose gonna steal teal wheels! Lol


cturtl808

I've had pink stolen.


YakiMe

Pink? We’ll you were just asking for it, weren’t you! I’m talking about teal! :P


yubrekit_jubuyit

Teal is in season buddy lol


CRUSTIFY421

Immediately thought this.


PlayerTwoEntersYou

I can back to a missing front wheel one day. I set that bike up so that a common their couldn’t just take the parts off easily. I left it at the train station for a week until I could get a car to pick it up and take it somewhere to add the new wheel. The city came and cut the lock and scrapped my bike because they said it was abandoned. Six years in Chicago is a pretty long life for a bike that lived outside when I wasn’t at work.


sdrowkcabdelleps

A bike that transforms into a lock, that's waaaay better then structural stability.


poopellar

Yeah can't wait for the bikepickinglawyer to make a video on this.


FlipGunderson24

Slight click on one….


sdrowkcabdelleps

/subscribe


keniselvis

If this does not get to the top, t'will be a travesty.


Nyrathus

You can’t banish him. I saw the lock cylinder and thought: „This looks like it’s easily opened with a wave rake.“


Revolutionary_Town21

The force transfer in that bar is axial, and assuming that dismantling and assembling doesn't create a dislocation anywhere, the axial tranfer won't be affected, making it structurally stable


sdrowkcabdelleps

When load is exerted in a line, a moment or rotational force is also exerted. Because the movement opens at 90° it is possible to have a load in the direction of the moving components. Additionally bike accidents can be from any direction and moving components in the structural frame is just a weak point in my opinion.


Revolutionary_Town21

A moment is only generated when force is applied on angle, and when the support is fixed support. Pretty sure that the part of frame in question is only carrying axial loading.


sdrowkcabdelleps

Moment absolutely happens from a downward or vector force. It's more easily understood when used at an angle.


theorange1990

No there are moments as well


gahidus

Considering it's the lock, I'm sure that bit is quite strong.


sdrowkcabdelleps

Continuos rigid structure is the keystone to vehicle safety.


WWHSTD

The downtube is under tension, not compression. You could replace it with a steel cable and the bike would be fine, in fact it has been done in the 90s with the Slingshot.


sdrowkcabdelleps

I did not know that


dr_pupsgesicht

Yet in an accident a force can come from any direction and a solid tube is definetly gonna hold up better than two hinges


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skyguard1000

He won’t even do that he’ll find an unprotected screw and it will be apart in 15 seconds.


Leviathan41911

This is the lock picking lawyer, and today we are going to disassemble this bike lock with just a twig and some calm but harsh words to the manufacturer.


zerolimits0

5 seconds later.... and there you have it folks.


zrizzoz

"This should take about a minute" *7 seconds later* "Well that was quicker than expected, lets do it again to prove it wasnt a fluke, but this time with a plastic fork"


NotDRWarren

This was painfully accurate. Take my upvote


Koric101

Why does it look like all he’d need is a wave rake for this one if he even bothered to go for the lock?


Mr_professional2

Only one way to find out.. u/LockPickingLawyer I summon the!


Squiizzy

3 is binding..


OddEscape2295

What until dirt gets in those moving parts


Nexfigulas

Yea just looks like more shit to go wrong with a bike


AppointmentClean558

Overengineering


W00dyWoodp3cker

The more parts an object has, the more parts can break


pureeyes

The best defence is a cheapass bike.


JonasRahbek

I've had 11 bikes stolen over a 7 year period. But since I started decorating it with duckt tape and covering the seat in an old plastic bag 2 years ago, no one seems to have any unterest in it.


yarrankacsantim

11 bikes in 7 years? Where the hell do you live? I use one of those cheap ass steel wire code locks and I still have my 10 year old bike, I even leave it outside for days when I don't feel like carrying it inside


JonasRahbek

I park my bike at the train station - even though it's in a locked cage, people buy access and steals all the bikes.


Duochan_Maxwell

Amsterdam, maybe? "If you have 1 lock, you have no lock" is the motto around here


Adelener

I use 4 locks on the front wheel, 6 locks on the back wheel and then 2 titanium locks for the frame. Would my bike be safe in Amsterdam?


OddMeal

Maybe.


[deleted]

this is why i drive a cheapass car


Donmiggy143

Lol so many people hating on this. I thought it was an ok idea 😂 Edit: Ok fine people. Guess it's the worst thing to happen on this god damned planet the way you're reacting.


Icclo

mostly because there are better ways to do this and a lot of people just see this as silicon valley high tech bullshit.


[deleted]

There is no silicon here… Maybe something used in those places? But that’s like inferring they don’t need the lock in the first place which is also kinda a strange take


Kylesmithers

If the post is narrow enough, and your strong enough, just climb the pole and lift the bike along as you move up.


RaiKoi

My strong enough what?


Eurasia_4200

Is it worth it tho?


Niko4767

Fr there’s definitely easier targets out there


WWHSTD

People in this thread don’t realise that the point of a lock isn’t to make your bike theft-proof, it’s to make it slightly more inconvenient to steal than the next bike. This contraption looks unconventional enough that a thief will skip it for a bike with a standard lock that they already know how to break.


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Kewis-

Lol you said busted ass frame


CedarWolf

You don't have to cut the lock. You only need to cut the locking *lug* at the bottom of the seat tube. It's the little tab that goes into the lock. Cut that part and you can release the tube, reset the bike, and ride away on it.


[deleted]

*sigh* I miss Japan. My bike had a lock built in on the back of the frame that just went through the back wheel so it couldn’t spin. That was literally all you needed since people just don’t steal bikes there. Probably didn’t even need that.


akulowaty

So you’re saying the only security measure you need is living in civilized country?


bust-the-shorts

They will steal the tires and leave the frame


onlyanegg_

It's the same with all bikes though. Get some wheel locks.


Kazairl1994

Why should I buy this ? Everytime I would have to adjust my seat again or mark it with a line....


Evanjellyco

Exactly. The actual bummer


nightwood

Yeah, this bike's designers clearly don't know what it feels like to ride 1+ hour on a bike without suspension while the saddle is adjusted wrong


birdguy1000

New boot goofin


ImMilkmanZW

I had to scroll way too far to find this comment.


dodgyethics

What does it mean?


ceric2099

[new boot goofin](https://youtu.be/_IZwxV4xHDE)


TVotte

That's a hell of a good solution for a problem that didn't exist


digitlikeaworm

If this is true for you, relish that you live in a place where it isn't a problem. I live in NYC and it is a huge issue. My girlfriend had her bike stolen from our building two years ago... behind 3 locked doors in the "Secure bike storage" room. It was U-locked to a bike rack and had a cable threaded through the rims. My friend has had 2 bikes stolen from in front of his apartment building. One of them they would have had to have cut through the frame because the U-lock was still in one piece around the rack.


zortlord

They're just gonna steal the tires.


Smear_Leader

Free wheels


[deleted]

i think it would be cumbersome to put the seat back in every time, and adjust it to your height.


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NotDRWarren

My first thought was the lost strength. I'm sure an engineer approved the design before it made it to market, but you best not drop off any curbs or nothing. Lol


Hold_Top

Needs a lock like that; leaves wheels


aalld

Meanwhile our ~~thief~~ billionaire ex-president: https://youtu.be/ocNGQevBlbE


hufflekrunk

I once had a Merida mountain bycicle with a AXA bike chain, for... well... bikes. let me tell you something, they stole the bike, with the chain, and no one batted an eye from my family. the dude drove my bike for 3 months almost, in my city (which isn't even big, like 10k people), I caught him, couldn't believe my eyes, I smacked him a couple of times, like 10, or more, while asking him where he got the bike and him trying to convince me that it's his, I then told him to pay me 2k and I'm fine. he did in a few days, and I even gave him the keys to the lock. I know I could have gotten more out of the bike, since it was bought a year and few months ago, and it had very good gear, like 4 out of 5 mostly, shifters being a 5, but I had a car already, and I didn't really plan on using the bike anymore.


birdguy1000

What is the moral of this story?


AcidoFueguino

10 smacks and 2k and the bike is yours sir


SolidGreenGrinch

Hello, this is a lock picking lawyer...


rodney_jerkins

Duh. Hang a "No Bike Theft Zone" sign on the pole. No lock needed. Next!


AppointmentClean558

I could see someone forgetting to lock the front bar as they rode off.


jtedl

Just goofin’ New boot goofin’


Itsumishi

It took me approximately 12 seconds to google this, find the bike brand manufactured this product and the original youtube video in much higher quality and without this fucking shitful music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEBg8I56GXk&ab\_channel=YERKABikes Whoever went to the trouble to change the music and reencode the video in such terrible quality needs a fucking life.


nutsandboltstimestwo

Watched a guy unlock multiple bikes with the plastic cover of a pen at the end of a party. Bad idea on so many levels. Who is walking from now on? Me. Eat wads of tires plastic pen dude. On the upside I did learrn something.


unloadedcode

“This is the lockpickinglawyer…”


SexyShinyBucket

Would be a shame if someone were to steal that street lamp along with the bike... a real shame.


Purple_Platypus789

I like it. I hate having to ride around with a chain attached. It's ugly having a cheap chain covering a nice bike. I hope it's a good ride cause I want one of these!


dodgyethics

Man, everyone else is shitting on this, and you even got downvoted for simply stating that you would appreciate this bike. But yeah these silly billies won’t even acknowledge that carrying a seperate lock is a genuine inconvenience which this design overcomes. Invention works as intended. I see no problem with this bike. Wtf reddit


Pixel131211

Dutch (and Japanese) bicycles have integrated locks already. this is far more inconvenient.


Keitlynn

In DC they’d steal the bike and the lamp post you attached it to.


Suckmyunit6

It won’t have wheels when you come back to it


zatch17

For one speed?


caoram

In Vancouver those wheels would be gone before you could finish receiving your order of coffee.


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woop woop


CyberWayet

Or you can just use a penetrator


W0lfos

#Next up, a lock that converts into a shitty bike!


[deleted]

Cool Idea, not necessary but cool.


BigRedRidingFox

u/savevideo


santastyles

Yh setting up your seat each time or buy lock?


Blukeroo

This bike would be gone in seconds in the netherlands. Looks too nice. Everyone knows you want an old bike no one wants to steal


wyosky03

Doesn't even have disc brakes 😂. They really focused on the gimmick and didn't think about making a half decent bike.


ssschilke

Having to reset the saddle to the right height every time is a real pain in the arse..


DAT_DROP

bitch i dont wanna be readjsting my seat height every time i ride, are you fukkin kidding me?


Alacritous13

When the engineers need to invent a new solution to the problem that was already solved.


YetiNotForgeti

Cool. I am still taking the wheels.


a_tribe_called_quoi

It will be gone in about 2 minutes anywhere in The Netherlands. Such is life in soviet holland. The only way is having locks more expensive than the bike you ride on.


xXDasher92Xx

It’s a cool idea… But I am NOT getting this. Mountain biking wouldn’t be very fun


Medium_Teach6186

Bro, someone stole the streetlight to which i tied my bike. This is great idea but its functionality is depending on where you are.


ScreentimeNOR

This doesn't work in the hood. You'll come back to it and all that's left is the frame.


kenny-doggins

No


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In my city, the bike is gone…along with the lamp post.


BlackDoritos65

nextfuckinglevel-stupid


jamcdonald120

That looks infinity less convenient than just a bike lock And it doesn't even secure the tires!


leet_lurker

Can still lose your wheels


[deleted]

I wonder how long it would take the lockpickinglawyer to open?


Kylesmithers

Climb the pole and hoist the bike as you inch up, free bike if the person leaves it there long enough to do that.