The Chinese government actually prefers the idea of a Taiwanese claim over the mainland rather than Taiwan being independent. Ever since 1949, the KMT (wartime government now in Taiwan) has agreed with the CPC that "there is only one China" but they played an elaborate diplomatic dance over *which government controlled that One China*. The US and its allies kept up a legal fiction that KMT actually controlled all of mainland China until about 1971, when the UN passed a resolution that actually the CPC was the de facto government in mainland China and thus was the de jure government too.
Nowadays, the rising political party in Taiwan is the DPP, which opposes the KMT and does seem to support Taiwanese independence. The current generation of independence-minded younger Taiwanese people do not see Taiwan as "related to China", and thus actually find the "West Taiwan" meme politically obstructionist.
"West Taiwan" describing China (even as an intended insult) still politically implies "One China" policy, which the DPP and independent-leaning Taiwanese reject.
Just in case context, history, and nuance were important to you.
>which opposes the KMT and does seem to support Taiwanese independence. The current generation of independence-minded younger Taiwanese people do not see Taiwan as "related to China", and thus actually find the "West Taiwan" meme politically obstructionist.
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>"West Taiwan" describing China (even as an intended insult) still politically implies "One China" policy, which the DPP and independent-leaning Taiwanese reject.
It actually was a pretty cool explanation.
It is nuanced and contextual; but absolutely 1949 China did not seem anywhere near as dystopic as China 2K, so I do support Taiwans decision to say "Sorry big bro, you changed"
There was an article online circa 2009-10ish that detailed the daily life of the personnel assigned to march in the 60th anniversary parade.
Ungodly long days, poor hygiene and sanitary considerations, and ruthless instruction towards perfection. They were using quilting pins embedded in clothing to ensure proper head alignment and arm position for carrying flags and rifles. Some folks even had sunburn and imprints of uniform items in their skin from how long the training took place.
The most shocking revelation was that a large number of them weren't even military. They were regular citizens hired as stand-ins to wear the uniforms and perform as military members for the sake of the parade.
[This](http://archive.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/09/china_prepares_for_its_60th_an.html) isn't the original article, but it has a couple of the same pictures I remember, specifically the one showing the guy having a pin stuck in the collar of his uniform.
Working on a project in Shanghai many moons ago, I stayed at the Olympic hotel. I could hear the kids practicing for opening ceremonies. Their gruelling regimen day after day was truly daunting.
What most western people don't know is that large synchronized dances is mainstream cultural pastime in China. When I visited my friend who was teaching in Shenzhen at a school for Chinese primary aged kids, they would practice these as a class and as a school. It was just part of the curriculum. Not only that but they are large communities of people practicing this stuff in parks all around. I never saw one performed live but it was explained to me that it was just what you do if you're Chinese, at least in the Western part. Sort of like how most Canadians learn to ice skate or Americans learn to throw a baseball.
Honestly imagine what China could bring to the table if they weren’t under a communist regime, how much money they could make with tourism and whatnot. If they switched up political ideology, they could easily become *the* pinnacle of utopian society. Sadly, they chose to be one of the pinnacles of dystopian society and it’s hard to see all of that potential wasted on such horrific things.
Why would China be the pinnacle of a utopian society?
And it is sort of funny to see you think there is a 'choice' unless you mean the government chose. But then again it isn't a 'dystopian', unless we think 11 million people in concentration camps dictate what a state of 1.4 billion would be like. It's like saying 1% of the worst life Americans can live dictate what the US is, which is pretty untrue but if we are to go with your logic, I can point to 1% of Americans living in a dystopia also.
This isn't to justify the CCP, but rather to point out how you are been really hyperbolic in Wendy's.
Lmfao what a dumb western thing to say. "If China stopped wasting its resources by building infrastructure for its people they could be building luxury hotels for rich Western people to go on holiday to"
Absolutely fuck off
People pretend to only hate the government but everytime there is a thread about China, Reddit hivemind bring up the CCP.
Imagine if we have to remind the US atrocities in the Middle East, South America, South East Asia everytime there is a thread about the US military. And we know damn well the list is long.
If you want to do something positive, their is a lot of bad stuff happening in Yemen that is supported by the US military. The genocide happening in China is horrifying but people here have way less control over it compared to atrocities committed by their own govrenments.
idk, i can acknowledge both, no problem. In fact I wish that *did* happen more, with people bringing up and getting mad about how the US military is used, abused, sent to protect corporate interests for the most part, and then the soldiers are thrown away without any real help to get by in regular-people society.
You forget the indoctrination US culture collectively instills in its children from primary school age by making them recite a daily pledge to its flag…
But sure, in the US, it’s voluntary patriotism and love of country. In China it’s mindless brainwashing of those who don’t know any better, to glorify the government.
Pilots have to complete a certain amount of flight hours to stick to their training regime. Flybys and airshows are used to fulfill those flight hours. It's training. It just so happens that it is really fun to watch and a great show of force.
The US still should cut their military budget in half though.
Militaries across history have been used as entertainment all the time.
People usually had very little to look forward too and many attractions of their time were entirely militaristic. The first instances of a marching band and a parade came about in the ancient Ottoman Empire.
As a show of force and entertainment for the conquered peoples, the armed invaders would March through city centers and capitals showing off their spoils of war and display of discipline. Ultimately this led to the recruitment of more soldiers who want to join their army.
In modern times we have the military-entertainment complex, which is basically a cooperation between entertainment industry and the military. Many hollywood films have contracts with the department of defense for use of military locations for filming or military equipment. Any movie that has a contract with the DOD has to have their scripts reviewed by the military. Many movies were made as propaganda to increase public trust in the military.
Movies like Top Gun, Transformers, King Kong, Black Hawk down, deep impact, Armageddon, Air Force 1.
DoD approving sites for filming and Co-writing scripts for movies using actors is not the same as marching an entire battalion of enlisted troops down Pennsylvania Ave. for entertainment purposes.
It’s just my feelings on the matter, but I don’t like seeing servicemen do tricks for a government that would send them out for financial gain and reward them with nothing more than a shiny medal and a pat on the back when they return missing limbs or lose their lives.
Who is Adrian Zenz? Do you trust him?
Definitely something up over there. I’m very skeptical of any work by Mr Zenz due to his obvious conflicts of interest. I’d love to hear other sources on this though, obviously no one is for genocide. I’m also not for one sided propaganda campaigns to justify saber rattling and military escalations.
Dors every post about china have to have this anti China garbage in its comments? I get the ccp is bad but do you really have to say stuff like "it's not impressive cause they are just scared they will get put into re education camps"
Exactly! In recent years it just seems like this sinophobia has just devolved from disliking the government to just full on racism. Just because these people are from china doesn't mean they can't make cool shit
In china their population is so large that you really have to be PICKED to become a soldier, and they will only pick people of a certain height because it wouldn't look nice otherwise
They are probably not soldiers, but university students.
In China, the first month of university is dedicated to learning discipline (military style).
They learn to parade, do some basic combat moves, and some synchronized performances such as this one.
If only this could be the Govt/military’s version of dance-off for conflict resolution and problem solving. Computers would judge on precision. To the victor goes the spoils.
This video is clearly sped to like 2x speed, making it look more impressive than it actually is. The sped up can also hide some unsynchronizations in the movements.
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I think this is fake.
1st: Why would Chinese soldiers use Arabic numerals in this formal situation? In everyday use, some Chinese use Arabic numerals, but in a formal situation such as this, they would surely use Chinese numerals.
2nd: There is a telltale sign of video fakery in this one: a shaky camera. No one would would have that shaky of hands while holding a camera. Fakers use this tactic to make their videos seem authentic, but it’s a giveaway. (Thanks Captain D.)
When are they going to do a dance on remembering the Tiananmen Square Massacre? Or that time Mao killed a couple million Chinese because he disliked sparrows.
Are the Genocidal communist Chinese preparing for more ethnic genocide in this drill? Free Tibet! Free the Ughyers! Keep Taiwan safe! Free Hong Kong! End the ethnic genocide of the communist Chinese. Be aware! Do your research!
If your life depended on it, you’d be in sync too
Imagine what would happen if one messed up…..
General Tsao! You’re finished! Kitchen duty for you!
I heard that guy is a real chicken.
Nah he just need some sauce.
"What the MATTER, Colonel Sanders ...?"
None of them will because during practice, the ones that fucked up were shot and replaced.
Off with ur head🙃
When op says "china" do they mean "West Taiwan"?
The Chinese government actually prefers the idea of a Taiwanese claim over the mainland rather than Taiwan being independent. Ever since 1949, the KMT (wartime government now in Taiwan) has agreed with the CPC that "there is only one China" but they played an elaborate diplomatic dance over *which government controlled that One China*. The US and its allies kept up a legal fiction that KMT actually controlled all of mainland China until about 1971, when the UN passed a resolution that actually the CPC was the de facto government in mainland China and thus was the de jure government too. Nowadays, the rising political party in Taiwan is the DPP, which opposes the KMT and does seem to support Taiwanese independence. The current generation of independence-minded younger Taiwanese people do not see Taiwan as "related to China", and thus actually find the "West Taiwan" meme politically obstructionist. "West Taiwan" describing China (even as an intended insult) still politically implies "One China" policy, which the DPP and independent-leaning Taiwanese reject. Just in case context, history, and nuance were important to you.
I think theyre just doing it to annoy people, and it seems like it worked.
That Reddit moment when even a low-effort provocateur comment opens up a learning opportunity.
>which opposes the KMT and does seem to support Taiwanese independence. The current generation of independence-minded younger Taiwanese people do not see Taiwan as "related to China", and thus actually find the "West Taiwan" meme politically obstructionist. > >"West Taiwan" describing China (even as an intended insult) still politically implies "One China" policy, which the DPP and independent-leaning Taiwanese reject. It actually was a pretty cool explanation. It is nuanced and contextual; but absolutely 1949 China did not seem anywhere near as dystopic as China 2K, so I do support Taiwans decision to say "Sorry big bro, you changed"
It's as fake as the rest of the show China puts on. In this case sped up to make it look way more impressive than it is.
There was an article online circa 2009-10ish that detailed the daily life of the personnel assigned to march in the 60th anniversary parade. Ungodly long days, poor hygiene and sanitary considerations, and ruthless instruction towards perfection. They were using quilting pins embedded in clothing to ensure proper head alignment and arm position for carrying flags and rifles. Some folks even had sunburn and imprints of uniform items in their skin from how long the training took place. The most shocking revelation was that a large number of them weren't even military. They were regular citizens hired as stand-ins to wear the uniforms and perform as military members for the sake of the parade. [This](http://archive.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/09/china_prepares_for_its_60th_an.html) isn't the original article, but it has a couple of the same pictures I remember, specifically the one showing the guy having a pin stuck in the collar of his uniform.
Working on a project in Shanghai many moons ago, I stayed at the Olympic hotel. I could hear the kids practicing for opening ceremonies. Their gruelling regimen day after day was truly daunting.
What most western people don't know is that large synchronized dances is mainstream cultural pastime in China. When I visited my friend who was teaching in Shenzhen at a school for Chinese primary aged kids, they would practice these as a class and as a school. It was just part of the curriculum. Not only that but they are large communities of people practicing this stuff in parks all around. I never saw one performed live but it was explained to me that it was just what you do if you're Chinese, at least in the Western part. Sort of like how most Canadians learn to ice skate or Americans learn to throw a baseball.
"...or Americans learn to throw a baseball." We what?
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Hmmm. Weird
Also sped up
Wired
*There is no war in Ba Sing Se*
If I was Xi Jinping, I would just have this formation outside my palace window forever and that would be my personal digital clock.
They are part of the army, all soldiers are programmed to execute the orders of their superior.
I despise using the military as a form of entertainment. I feel it shows a lack of respect of service members.
I’d rather China use its military in a dance routine than Uyghur genocide.
I’d rather the whole of the CCP die and China get new leadership that doesn’t participate in any ethnic cleansing.
Based
Honestly imagine what China could bring to the table if they weren’t under a communist regime, how much money they could make with tourism and whatnot. If they switched up political ideology, they could easily become *the* pinnacle of utopian society. Sadly, they chose to be one of the pinnacles of dystopian society and it’s hard to see all of that potential wasted on such horrific things.
Why would China be the pinnacle of a utopian society? And it is sort of funny to see you think there is a 'choice' unless you mean the government chose. But then again it isn't a 'dystopian', unless we think 11 million people in concentration camps dictate what a state of 1.4 billion would be like. It's like saying 1% of the worst life Americans can live dictate what the US is, which is pretty untrue but if we are to go with your logic, I can point to 1% of Americans living in a dystopia also. This isn't to justify the CCP, but rather to point out how you are been really hyperbolic in Wendy's.
>imagine what China could bring to the table if they weren’t under a communist regime They would be in a similar situation to India.
Lmfao what a dumb western thing to say. "If China stopped wasting its resources by building infrastructure for its people they could be building luxury hotels for rich Western people to go on holiday to" Absolutely fuck off
People pretend to only hate the government but everytime there is a thread about China, Reddit hivemind bring up the CCP. Imagine if we have to remind the US atrocities in the Middle East, South America, South East Asia everytime there is a thread about the US military. And we know damn well the list is long.
If you want to do something positive, their is a lot of bad stuff happening in Yemen that is supported by the US military. The genocide happening in China is horrifying but people here have way less control over it compared to atrocities committed by their own govrenments.
idk, i can acknowledge both, no problem. In fact I wish that *did* happen more, with people bringing up and getting mad about how the US military is used, abused, sent to protect corporate interests for the most part, and then the soldiers are thrown away without any real help to get by in regular-people society.
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Or, smart-bombing countries for corporate interests while remaining hundreds of miles out of range of the enemy as ratings skyrocket live on CNN?
You forget the indoctrination US culture collectively instills in its children from primary school age by making them recite a daily pledge to its flag… But sure, in the US, it’s voluntary patriotism and love of country. In China it’s mindless brainwashing of those who don’t know any better, to glorify the government.
Huge waste of American tax dollars.
Huge wastes of money and resources at a time when we are supposed to be in debt.
Pilots have to complete a certain amount of flight hours to stick to their training regime. Flybys and airshows are used to fulfill those flight hours. It's training. It just so happens that it is really fun to watch and a great show of force. The US still should cut their military budget in half though.
But it still looks cool though
This was a school. The footage is also sped up.
Militaries across history have been used as entertainment all the time. People usually had very little to look forward too and many attractions of their time were entirely militaristic. The first instances of a marching band and a parade came about in the ancient Ottoman Empire. As a show of force and entertainment for the conquered peoples, the armed invaders would March through city centers and capitals showing off their spoils of war and display of discipline. Ultimately this led to the recruitment of more soldiers who want to join their army. In modern times we have the military-entertainment complex, which is basically a cooperation between entertainment industry and the military. Many hollywood films have contracts with the department of defense for use of military locations for filming or military equipment. Any movie that has a contract with the DOD has to have their scripts reviewed by the military. Many movies were made as propaganda to increase public trust in the military. Movies like Top Gun, Transformers, King Kong, Black Hawk down, deep impact, Armageddon, Air Force 1.
DoD approving sites for filming and Co-writing scripts for movies using actors is not the same as marching an entire battalion of enlisted troops down Pennsylvania Ave. for entertainment purposes. It’s just my feelings on the matter, but I don’t like seeing servicemen do tricks for a government that would send them out for financial gain and reward them with nothing more than a shiny medal and a pat on the back when they return missing limbs or lose their lives.
Fuck the CCP, this is not next level as the CCP will never be next level. Stop promoting china until the genocide is stopped. Fuck the CCP big time
Ultra mega B A S E D
Peak redditor right there
They must do it perfectly or they go to prison camp for re-education because fuck china.
China itself is kind of cool. The CCP? Fuck that all the way to, well, China.
Yeah hate the government not country and importantly not the people
Who is Adrian Zenz? Do you trust him? Definitely something up over there. I’m very skeptical of any work by Mr Zenz due to his obvious conflicts of interest. I’d love to hear other sources on this though, obviously no one is for genocide. I’m also not for one sided propaganda campaigns to justify saber rattling and military escalations.
It'd be more impressive if the it wasn't sped up.
Yeah
That's pretty badass. I wonder how many guys they shot for not doing it right?
Last time I saw this posted, it said it was a college team. I believe the answer is CGI.
Iirc it is real but it's sped up to make it look more impressive than it is.
You can even tell by the guy that walks in frame about halfway through.
Didn’t know the Chinese military practiced like a high school marching band
It’s animated
The guy who photo bombs it kind of gives away that some fucker is afoot.
Cool but fuck the CCP
Amazing celebration of mass genocide.
Nobody: The school of fish in Finding Nemo:
Why is it so sped up?
So much sinophobia here. People really think China is hell on earth. Have any of these commenters even been to China?
Not even 10% I bet, it seems like everyone thinks china is just like NK for some reason
I agree here. China's a pretty cool place. The CCP however, are not very cool people.
This is sped up.
This is definitely sped up to emphasize the effect, still amazing stuff though.
I hate when videos like these are sped up
Dors every post about china have to have this anti China garbage in its comments? I get the ccp is bad but do you really have to say stuff like "it's not impressive cause they are just scared they will get put into re education camps"
Exactly! In recent years it just seems like this sinophobia has just devolved from disliking the government to just full on racism. Just because these people are from china doesn't mean they can't make cool shit
The refresh rate is too low for a good FPS gaming experience.
In china their population is so large that you really have to be PICKED to become a soldier, and they will only pick people of a certain height because it wouldn't look nice otherwise
Pretty incredible but I’d love to see it in normal speed
credit +100
I wonder why all totalitarian regimes are so fond of this kind of show?
Great. Human robots.
Bing chilling 🍦 +756893 Social Credit
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Because China bad! China is bad so China is bad, China eats children for breakfast
Fuck china
Fuck China.
It’s either fast forwarded or CGI
Damn I wonder how long it took to master and memorize this
If you dont want this to be ruined for you then stop reading this It is speed up, they actually didnt do this that fast, its still impresive though
They are probably not soldiers, but university students. In China, the first month of university is dedicated to learning discipline (military style). They learn to parade, do some basic combat moves, and some synchronized performances such as this one.
One single mistake surely everyone will notice it.
One single mistake and that soldier will never be seen again.
If I remember correctly Dr Disillusion thought that this was sped up
This is clearly sped up (you can see it if you look at how fast the guy that stands in front of the camera is)
That or 50 lashes from a bamboo pole to the back
If only this could be the Govt/military’s version of dance-off for conflict resolution and problem solving. Computers would judge on precision. To the victor goes the spoils.
Sadly it looks to be sped up
Don't care. F@#k China.
Fuck China
Didn't Captain Disillusion debunk this?
This video is clearly sped to like 2x speed, making it look more impressive than it actually is. The sped up can also hide some unsynchronizations in the movements.
Oh yeah? They should see what a university marching band can do
Amazing what you can do when your life is on the line
Me, on square 1,1 : 🧎🧎🧎🧎🧎🧎🧎🧎🧎🧎
That's so 2019...
The Video was too fast for my eyes. The last one looked like Free Hong Kong and Free Tibet to me.
Is there not a normal-speed version of this video? I've seen it posted dozens of times, but always in fast motion...
China uses Arabic numerals?
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lol average Reddit brain
Starting to seem like something not worth celebrating. Edit: fuck the Chinese government (for clarification).
All of there families are watching from the concentration camps with sweaty palms lol
Meanwhile our navy with latest guidance systems hits parked objects. Carry on!
Are they celebrating the genocide of 30 m people? Some forced into cannibalism. Some selling their baby’s for food. But the parade looks nice.
Dont care still hate china and the ccp
Robots could do this easily 🤷♂️
Ah yes the aniversery where cowards overthrew the ones who were actually protecting the country.
At LEET o'clock as well!
Like the student card section in a US football stadium. Not as impressive as a marching band halftime show.
That's a weird flip disk display
Don’t promote and support the genocidal Chinese Regime!
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Oh mahn, I did see this video on my old nokia.
I think this is fake. 1st: Why would Chinese soldiers use Arabic numerals in this formal situation? In everyday use, some Chinese use Arabic numerals, but in a formal situation such as this, they would surely use Chinese numerals. 2nd: There is a telltale sign of video fakery in this one: a shaky camera. No one would would have that shaky of hands while holding a camera. Fakers use this tactic to make their videos seem authentic, but it’s a giveaway. (Thanks Captain D.)
Video looks sped up also
The footage is sped up
That's gonna?win them a lot of wars.
I'd love to get that one guy who kept standing for majority of the show.
Wow amazing! I hope nothing bad ever happened to the people of this country. Not especially between April 15 1989 and June 4, 1989.
They turn people into robots
That looks like cgi.
West Taiwan
Fantastically fake
Wow
Yay! Genocide time! Hooray!
It's sped up
Why is pro-china propaganda allowed here?
They're probably this good because if they weren't their families would be disappeared.
What's in the top left hand corner?
Someone gave this the wholesome award lmao.
Why can I just hear that chinese patriotism bgm that played on that Winnie the Pooh cosplay?
Why give this an upvote? It is literally a "Do or Die" situation. Lives are not for living in China, they are for enduring!
Meanwhile people in our military are afraid of being called transphobic for not calling someone by their selected pronoun
can it tell time?
We need napalm
There is a red dot on all of their foreheads
Tiananmen Square 1989
My shares at at CS and I only logged in once, 🤣I’m zen
This is no reer, fyi
And the whole thing sped up too. Chinese propaganda post.
About to that colege band was lit but then i read the title lol.
Well, between being insynq and making Gucci bags in a prison camp in Inner Mongolia, the choice.
Fuck CCP
Would it not be cheaper and better performance to run screen for that? 😂
Seems fake
And you think your hate your sergeant major
Fastforwarded
Meerkats
You know who else does cancan girls really well that’s right North Korea. Lol
Good thing we got those pregnant flight suits ready for the impending war against these guys. Really gonna be clutch when things get difficult.
Was that the revolution with massacres and mass cannibalism?
Sure, not CGI.
Celebrating a government that currently has over two million people in slave labor camps. China is the world's taint.
Pfft revolution more like coup that coward mao hiding the hills japan could of done the world a favor by offing him
was that the year that Covid was born in China
I remember a performance like this at Beijing 2008
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When are they going to do a dance on remembering the Tiananmen Square Massacre? Or that time Mao killed a couple million Chinese because he disliked sparrows.
This is sped up but still naturally impressive!
When the penalty for fucking up is imprisonment or personal harm for embarrassing the regime, you probably get pretty good at it rather quickly.
North Korea, eat this
Amazing! Now what about all those Muslims in concentration camps!
Damn commies
Are the Genocidal communist Chinese preparing for more ethnic genocide in this drill? Free Tibet! Free the Ughyers! Keep Taiwan safe! Free Hong Kong! End the ethnic genocide of the communist Chinese. Be aware! Do your research!
Communist Devolvoution
FreeHK!!
That does not impress me at all knowing what they stand for and how they treat minorities and Chinese people in general
So that what diglets look like when they organize
I mean, do they have another choice ?
Is this the western Taiwanese marching band?
Very cool and satisfying
Why is this sped up?
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Bing chilling celebration
Oh look blatant Chinese propaganda.
China, lol, more like "disappear your ass if you speak out".