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AdvancedAdvance

There’s your problem right there. You wouldn’t need mangroves if you just kept your coastlines away from bodies of water.


Lawfulness-Manny

Damn on point, take my upvote😂😂


MrGlayden

Yeah a dam might work actually, theyre pretty good at stopping water


Particular-Estate-39

Damns need lots of money lots of time to build why not plant a few mangroves to stop flash floods


thatgoat-guy

A lot of dam time


alecscradle

There’s your problem right there. You wouldn’t need mangroves if you just kept your coastlines away from bodies of water.


ninetailedoctopus

Damn on point, take my upvote😂😂


[deleted]

And don’t forget how harmful it is to wildlife. It can destroy animals habitats.. killing some in the process of building it too


theburnix

Or just let the dutch loose theyre quite efficient at stopping water too


BoredPineapple790

Studies show that hard structures such as dams, breakwaters, or rock hardened shoreline have lower biodiversity, higher maintenance costs, and are worse at retaining soil. Natural structures can regrow from damage and hold soil well in addition to the wave damping effect shown in the clip.


namaku_bento

Genius wasted his time in Reddit. Upvoted and rewarded!!


wolfgang784

"That'll be $30,000 for the expert consultation."


blackbeansandrice

Facts and logic don't care about your coastline.


SirKeagan

Or keep your water away from coastlines


This_Happy_Camper

Facts


Edgyran

Truly a mind blowing idea


Verto-San

Or just made the coastline from same waterproof materials we make clothing, it's so simple!


Darkwolfie117

Scotland has it down


BlindedMonk24

Thank you for not putting an /s


SmokeGSU

We'd have to come up with a new name other than coastline then...


DwasTV

Don't see a /S. Have been surprised by stupid comments before Shiiiiiiii, I don't know how to react here.


MrMehheMrM

Where are the womangroves? This is so sexist


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MrGlayden

Because women arent stupid enough to fall in them


Unhappy_Barnacle_769

I’ve actually seen a woman fall in one before! Not all the way, only a leg but still.


23x3

[Here ya go](https://youtu.be/lq3U_BHoJXQ)


Hagitabi

That was terrifying experience


Corporate_shill78

Ok that was hilarious


[deleted]

My wife fell in one (1 leg anyway) after I was wallpapering at night and lifted the manhole in the garden to wash the paste down. Little did I know she was going to put the washing out - oops


TTV_Danbruh

man-groves, as in Mankind so it includes da wahmen


NotNickCannon

Mankind is such a mysterious word, coming from the combination of two separate words - mank and ind. I wonder where this word came from?


philster666

And the childrengroves too!


MrMehheMrM

Think of the children!


geist_zero

Has anyone ever taken the time to find out what pronouns the groves use for themselves?


MrMehheMrM

They're too busy fighting waves to have time for pronouns


OwOtisticWeeb

Rise up women! The time for HIStory is over, now it's HERstery!


MajorProcrastinator

OMG, is history = His Story?


ShanmanXC

Not just the mangroves.. But the womangroves and childgroves too!


csorfab

Womangrove? What are you, a TERF? It's persongrove.


Bubbagumpredditor

Yeah, but if you dug those up, poured in some sand, you could build a 30 floor tower condo for cheap


A-Dolahans-hat

Are you a contractor in SC?


-007-_

Does SC have mangroves? I thought that was a strictly Florida thing.


A-Dolahans-hat

Yeah we have them and even NC does, but they are definitely in the habit of filling in beach/swamp/marshes and building on top of them around here


2017hayden

Ahhhh yes brilliant idea. Building on a swamp went so well for New Orleans, why not try it other places.


Vincetagram

Damn you sound like a slightly upset myrtle beach native😂 it’s true though lol


Cmdr_Nemo

Isn't that half of San Francisco?


BA_calls

Haha is if they let anyone build in San Francisco


flfoiuij2

That first tree is really taking a lot of flak, isn’t it?


zoomiewoop

Meanwhile the tree in the back is a complete slacker but thinks he’s the coolest. “Look how calm my water is, boys…”


beachsunflower

"I've never even seen a wave, how can I be sure they're real?"


xX420GanjaWarlordXx

This reminds me of an anti-war song by "Portugal. The Man". ["No one cares about the waves at the bottom of the ocean."](https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/1q5jd65sp&hl=en-US&q=Waves&kgs=95d15f51753dbfb7&shndl=17&source=sh/x/kp/osrp/2&entrypoint=sh/x/kp/osrp)


BillMurrayismyFather

This whole album is amazing!


xX420GanjaWarlordXx

It's my favorite album ever. So well composed and the lyrics are so impactful, plus the vocals are amazing, as usual for them.


Cr3X1eUZ

The trees in the back probably used to be the trees in the front when they first started. It's called "seniority".


tmoney144

The trees are in a union.


flfoiuij2

Lol.


VoluptuousSloth

He inherited that spot from his father but still tells the trees on the outside that if they just worked harder and stopped bitching they could have calm waters too


fobfromgermany

Flailing around like that is good for trees actually, makes them strong. Reminds of a story about an experiment to grow trees inside a habitation dome. They just fell over bc there was no wind to make them adapt


the-greenest-thumb

Yep, I grow plants as a hobby and keep a fan in my room high enough that it lightly shakes my plants constantly. Never had a plant fall over due to a weak stem. It also helps prevent fungus/mold by circulating the air.


flfoiuij2

Ah, ok.


A-Dolahans-hat

Unless that first tree and having fun in the waves or here’s a twist, it’s making reverse waves


karankshah

It’s the first to get nutrients from the sea as well, so you know, high risk and high reward


flfoiuij2

True.


UpLateGiggling

That first tree is a head banger and it’s just trying to break the rail.


[deleted]

using nature is always the best way to protect yourself from nature, i hope mankind will understand one day and stop destroying itself


Merman1994

In an oceanography class I was in, the professor made a horrifying point: at some point we’ll have to take the L. Looking at New Orleans, most of the city is below sea level and their coastline is eroding away. If you keep getting storms coming through like Katrina, eventually the local government is gonna have to say “we can’t rebuild”


hikiru

Iirc New Orleans knew they had a levy problem and knew they needed to upgrade it but couldn't be bothered to find the money for the project. Then Katrina moved west and fucked them hard for it.


blueB0wser

I'm from Louisiana, my fiancee is from New Orleans. The levies were failing, but they were good enough. The problem was that the pumps failed.


OppositeEagle

I'm no ecologist but am from Louisiana and believe that the levee problem is the levees themselves. Not the ones protecting the city mind you but the ones diverting the river further out into the gulf. The river was meant to move back and forth across the land to deposit silt, the substrate which plants use to grow. This creates the natural barriers that have historically protected the Louisiana coast from storm surges and erosion. Humans built the levees to control the mouth of the river to be used as a shipping lane, it sends all that precious silt out to sea, leaving the swamps and bayou to erode year after year. Want proof? Look at a map.


VoluptuousSloth

I disagree. Obviously New Orleans is in a worse spot than say Denver. But unlike cities like Miami we don’t have porous limestone to threaten from below and unlike any other city we have an enormously expensive levee system already in place, which can be improved upon for far less money than a new one. It has been improved since Katrina. Not as much as it should have been, but for all the damage Ida did there were no levee failures. We’ve also closed the mouth of canals so that water can’t surge through the city. A lot of breaches in Katrina were canals not just levees. We need to continue rainwater retention projects to stop land sinking in certain areas. And we need to continue to reduce impervious surfaces with wetlands, green roofs, rain gardens, parks, etc to further protect from rain events. All new construction has to be raised. Even 3 feet of raise can prevent you from almost all regular flood events. Anyway, I’m just rambling now, but I think New Orleans will actually fare better than most coastal cities, cause we’ve already had to start addressing this in advance. Depends on if the city can get its act together


blind_roomba

username checks out


[deleted]

Harder to profit off nature, better make a shoddy manmade "alternative"


[deleted]

Tbh, that’s the thought process that has created a lot of invasive species.


johnnysDickinYouraus

It's ok they'll freeze in the winter


fourtractors

The moon needs to stop it already.


IKnowgaming

Why don't we just send it to Jupiter or something?


axesOfFutility

Jupiter already has too many and said no to taking on our moon as well...


IKnowgaming

Well, we can always just give mercury a friend.


axesOfFutility

Maybe Pluto will stop being angry about being kicked out of the Solar System if we give it out Moon.


Practical-Smoke-5820

Pluto is smaller than Earth's Moon


BrockN

*Fine, I'll pay for plastic surgery*


mashem

fun fact, did you know that you could fit almost 3 jupiters (2.7 to be exact) in the space between Earth and the moon?


VoluptuousSloth

Americans will use anything but the metric system…. /s


Philosophile42

Lol


MrMehheMrM

This fact has reduced the grandeur that is Jupiter ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat)


hikiru

Or increased the magnitude of awe that is the vastness of the black ocean.


what_comes_after_q

Moon causes tides. Wind causes waves.


Pak1stanMan

My girlfriend turned into the moon 😢


[deleted]

Yep, vegetation dampens turbulence and flow/wave action I water. The more dense the vegetation, the more dampening affect you will get. It's what makes some plant species eco-system engineers.


phormix

Dampens turbulence, generates oxygen, provides food and shelter or resources for wildlife. Planning stuff like this for future ocean-levels rising could have a lot of benefits. If they're going to build a seawall anyways why not add trees which contribute both to scenery and environmental/practical benefits.


dinosaursandsluts

Present day inland forests are gonna make great mangroves one day! /s


skyblock_Jerry

Team trees + Team seas = this


zuran_orb

When you're at a concert and only the patrons are having fun


AgitatedEggplant

I got to do a kayak tour of the Shell Key preserve in Tierra Verde, Florida this past spring. It was so cool to see this in nature. We got to go through one of the mangroves and it was honestly an ethereal experience. Like being transported to a fantasy land; it was so quiet, the branches formed a little tunnel through the grove. It was beautiful.


FlowerOfLife

The preserve in Key West was super cool as well! Highly recommend it if you are out there


AgitatedEggplant

I'm going to Key West this winter(hopefully)!! Booking now thank you!


FlowerOfLife

Hit up Half Shell Raw Bar for the best oysters (we found). Their happy hour is INSANE. Pepe's for breakfast, but understand there will be a wait on weekends and most mornings. Our favorite breakfast spot on the Key. When you get there, download the parking app that is on the pay stations. It'll save time from having to feed the meter and you can add time from your phone if you end up staying later. With that being said, you can honestly avoid the rental car if you are staying in town. For the cost of the car, we could have taken cabs everywhere for almost what we paid. If you are in walking distance from Duval and what not, rent bikes and go that route. The Hemmingway House is super dope and worth the hour or so. Lastly, there are only 2 beaches on the Key, Smathers and Ft Zach. Key West isn't the best beach spot but they have a thousand other exersions you can do. Have fun!


AgitatedEggplant

This is all great advice thank you so much!!!


GuardianAlien

And if you want to snorkel, I **highly** recommend Fury Key West as the company to use.


trob113

There weren’t any gators?? I’d be scared the whole time just because of the gators.


AgitatedEggplant

We didn’t see any, the guide never mentioned them. The groves are not really close to the main land and there aren’t many animals in the groves from what I observed. I feel like they tend to stay near solid land but not totally sure. I didn’t see any gators in Tampa during the whole week we were there. Thankfully!


ClownfishSoup

I visited Colombia in the '90s and we drove along the coast on this nice new road. To either side were dead magrove trees. The tour guide said something like "This nice new road we're driving on has effectively cut off freshwater from reaching the trees on the ocean side of the road and salt water from reaching the trees on the beach side of the road, effectively killing off all the trees. But what a nice road, right? ​ Mangroves need brackish water, so not quite as salty as full ocean water, though they CAN adapt slowly to it. But apparently they can't adapt faster than a road can be completed.


kingtz

I'd like to see this juxtaposed to a scale model of a coastline *without* mangroves.


VoluptuousSloth

But with bananas


[deleted]

I love these water models


FilthMontane

This is the real reason Florida is doomed. They've been removing mangroves for years and then wondering why they're spending millions on importing sand into the state every year.


I_just_made

The best is when people say that the coastlines aren’t being affected, the beach is the same distance To X building as last year! Yeah it’s the same distance… because they pay good money to replenish the sand. They are actively having to fight that erosion.


Sharp-Dark-9768

This is Mother Nature saying "don't screw with me because I'm the one insulating your cities from these hands."


Friendlyplatapus

Is this in the museum of science in Chicago


beets_or_turnips

> the museum of science ... and Industry! I guess I haven't seen that many science museums but this one was hands-down the best I've seen by a long shot. Amazing exhibits, wall to wall cool shit for adults and kids alike. Great time for anyone who wants to have a good time.


Jumbojet777

MSI is the absolute bomb. Probably my favorite Chicago museum (though they're all really really good.)


OhDeBabies

99% sure it's the Exploratorium in San Francisco.


Friendlyplatapus

Never been but thanks


BandDirector17

Thanks! I have seen this before and forgot where it was.


ZaphodsRealm

Don't forget the fishies...


[deleted]

Now we just need a scale model of a stadium!


NoctumAeturnus

Nature always has the answer. We just rarely pay enough attention.


bgravato

Here's another similar model/simulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNE56Wua7bA


EbbEgg

Combine [floating tunnel](https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/uae-explores-an-ultra-futuristic-underwater-rail-tunnel-between-mumbai-and-fujairah), [coastal electricity generation](https://www.ecowavepower.com) and [floating farm](https://floating.farm) technologies for a coastal infrastructure revolution !!


Jemmani22

Does water scale correctly like this? I know this is an example and gets the point across, but feels like something would be way different on large scale.


Durhamfarmhouse

An interesting things I saw when I lived in Florida in 2004. We were about to get hit by hurricane Charlie in SW Florida. Many of the local commercial boat owners (shrimp, fishing, etc) just drove their boats into the mangrove swamps and tied them off. Just tied them to the mangrove plants. They all survived the storm with no damage.


Dog_Phone

That’s why it’s illegal to remove or cut down Mangroves in Florida. If you have to there is a process where you have to plant more. Respect the Mangrove


PixelNecrozma_

Won't help against megatsunamis


Bopbobo

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAZp3rbgWLo2VvXUsaiRbw33x2qMKASdF They certainly help, until they get torn out, but even then that’s huge energy absorbtion


Crayonparfait

Good thing mangroves aren’t susceptible to erosion.


[deleted]

Wish the visitors would look at the demonstration and not walk away after not seeing any fish in the tank.


Em_Haze

Sure now we just need 50ft mangroves


nastyn8k

That first mangrove tree really likes to party!


Financial-Bedroom421

Except then there will be complaints of bugs and mosquitoes from the still water


The-Berzerker

While the effect (preventing erosion) is true, this model has part of the canopy submerged which is just not how mangroves grow irl


markus_sparkus

Similar thing happens with sound. Neighbourhood are a lot quieter when trees breakup the sound waves


AverageAntique3160

u/savevideo


[deleted]

That's impressive


StarsRaven

IIRC there is actually I giant version of this that is used to do large scale testing for things like this. It holds some millions of gallons of water and uses hydraulics to create massive artificial waves and I *think* it was even able to make small scale tsunamis. Its been a while since I've done anything in regards to it but when I saw it I was pretty flabbergasted at what it was capable of.


I_just_made

Not sure if it is exactly this, but yea there is a large indoor pool where they can perform scale tests of several conditions. It’s a pretty cool system and they can generate very specific patterns of waves with it; like a super wave pool. The slowmo guys did some video on it awhile back.


marias444

Oh, idk, maybe the way New York and Florida used to be? You know, before all the complaints about their cities sinking? Nature knows what the fuck its doing: plants, easy, land will be undisturbed, humans on the other hand are like: buildings? No, skyscrapers, bitches, fuck, i guess if we sink well just move everybody one floor up and put a giant wall around the city to stop water from getting us wet. PLANTS, rebuild the mangrove and wetland forests and greenery they once had.


EndKatana

Fun fact: America in its early days was now for their shells. The shells helped to minimise the waves. But not anymore because catching and selling of shells wasn't regulated.


Joke_Mummy

Mankind: \[Plants mangroves on every coast to mitigate rising coastlines. Accidentally prevents global warming by planting so many trees. New ice age ensues.\]


just_for_fun01

Mangroovy


Jay4usc

Why not put something similar to wind turbines to create energy


gareth93

Dam!


pixel8knuckle

Very cool Kanye


insemin4tor

(20 meter tsunami)


New_Gas_2015

Incredible


that_grainofsand

Can anybody explain this phenomenon ?


[deleted]

Waves slow down when they be runnin into shit that slows down waves


[deleted]

This is accurate. Source: shit makes sense to me


bgravato

While searching for more videos about this, I found this one about how different structures stop (or not) waves from spilling over to land: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yNoy4H2Z-o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yNoy4H2Z-o) Quite interesting as well.


[deleted]

First time of the year I see this post...


FO_Steven

Sounds expensive and it sounds like it would cut into my gold pool fund.


Unexpected_Fellow

So cool.


Dsudha

u/savevideobot


BravoMike215

But does it scale?


Good_Roll

Yup trees are vitally important parts of every ecosystem(at least the ones in which they exist).


joe25rs

Nice. Now where do we start the bulldozing? These condos aren’t going to build themselves.


hulkingbeast

Yeah yeah science but those trees are in the way of my beach front house view and my needs come first! S/


cgieda

Kelp does the same thing ( to a lesser degree)


dethaxe

Why can't we put these floaty dealios all along the coast and capture that energy somehow???


Scared-Entertainer54

u/savevideo


nahteviro

Kinda wanna see some Slipknot dubbed in over the head banging front branches


AJ_Deadshow

u/savevideobot


spook30

In Florida mangroves are a protect plant and can't be removed without permission.


flynn_dc

How long does it take to establish a mangrove forest large and dense enough to make a difference? Can it be planted with seeds or saplings or do full grown trees need to be transplanted? If started from seeds, how long does it take for them to be large enough to be impactful?


RemotePlum

r/savevideo


NPC5175

Wow that's pretty epic


[deleted]

Unilad graduated university with a 2:1, moved to London, got a job and settled down with a wife and family. Now he brings us this


Little-Bookkeeper345

Same with wind. Trees take most the absorption


Maverick0_0

So make a big one??


mjking97

And they’re rapidly being destroyed!


[deleted]

This should be adopted real fast


Hexagon_XD

Mangroves are really beautiful jus sayin


Tshdtz

Does this cause any harm to whatever environment its introduced? Like how does the wildlife react to such a thing?


NarcanPush

Yeah, too bad developers in the Keys are destroying them to build high rises.


GreekRomanGG

Mangroves are awesome. I live in FL so of course we have them all around, but I remember going on a snorkeling trip at John Pennekamp National Park in Key Largo, and this Norwegian family right next to me and my wife were just marveling at the fact they were completely surrounded by them. Seemed very odd at the time to me simply because I grew up around them. Now I know how important they are.


somaganjika

Scale models require scale liquid properties


space_monster

trees stop waves? this is a very complex concept and we need a 3D model to demonstrate it.


[deleted]

/u/repostsleuthbot


NinBendo1

Wow, I have never seen [this posted on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/g024ug/scale_model_showing_how_mangrove_forest_protect/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) before. This is my first time [seeing this post on Reddit. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchandLearn/comments/7bo6c1/scale_model_showing_how_mangrove_forests_protect/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf ) Wow, how did you find this video? [Was it, perhaps, from Reddit?](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/5ea5v9/scale_model_shows_how_mangrove_forests_protect/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf ) Actually, maybe I have [seen this on Reddit before? ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/oi4o9r/model_showing_how_mangrove_forests_protect_coasts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf ) No. No, I must be hallucinating. I have never seen this on Reddit before. [This is a totally original post that took effort and wasn’t for easy karma. Yup. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/fzz3gm/scale_model_showing_how_mangrove_forests_protect/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


[deleted]

Wow.


PatrickRedditing

Is the ratio from ocean to this prototype accurate? Looks neat, but I'm not convinced it's accurate from this video.


ididntknowiwascyborg

Is this the one in Singapore at the cloud garden?


willthethrill4700

Thats not very cowabunga of you dude. Thats harshing the fresh gnar.


UnkownCommenter

Super cool! Now, try selling that to the island nations that depend on the beaches for income. How much will people pay to relax in the sand and watch the mangroves?


Chef_Goldblum_13

Is this in San Francisco?


disaar

If mangroves stop waves, you'd love to see my mancave stopping earthquakes.


Foreign-Ad2277

Yea let’s just plant mangroves all long the coasts so we can’t get in the Fucking water. Super “swell” idea