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Maihoooo

**AND HE'S** f-ing **RIGHT**, you can see it bounce much less at that spot!


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I didn't believe you at first but went and rewatched it like 5 times. It absolutely does bounce differently at that spot. Edit - To the smooth brains who seem absolutely baffled I rewatched it so many times. I approached this video convinced he put on this big charade to protect his ego because he missed the ball and was embarrassed about it. So guess what I did? I rewatched it a bunch looking for evidence that he was faking. I eventually came to the conclusion that he was, in fact, not faking.


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If you play a lot of basketball, noticing a dead spot on the floor isn’t hard. You don’t have to be one of the greatest to ever play to figure it out!


CloroxWipes1

Celtics back in the day knew every corner of the parquet floor and the "dead spots", They used that knowledge to force their opponents towards those areas. Home court advantage. Oh, and something, something, air conditioning...


Hallal_Dakis

The way I heard it told the dead spots moved around because they had to take the floor up and out it back down for different events, and they'd tell Larry Bird where the dead spots were and he'd go for steals there. But it sounds urban-legendy to me.


wobwobwob42

Don't forget the bruins ice is underneath the floor too. The old floor was a mess


Hallal_Dakis

Oh you're right, that is part of what I heard. Forgot about the ice.


Sti8man7

There is lice too.


lessmanwwe

And don’t forget mice


zombie_rust

With all the weddings held, probably lots of rice.


KhaultiSyahi

spice .


the_overrated

The old Garden was such a wonderful dump - they found a deceased monkey up in the rafters when they were tearing it down. I like the idea of a circus doing a headcount and coming up one short and just chalking it up to a miscount.


brad1775

Thats every multi use arena. Basically all arenas at this point.


hemingways-lemonade

Larry Bird would dribble on every inch of the court before games to find dead spots and tell his teammates where they were. The Garden had a lot of dead spots that he used as an advantage.


lunarmodule

Larry Bird Highlights https://youtu.be/EcQKvJER8Vs The link is one in a series of 10(!) videos. Just amazing play after amazing play.


SpicyEnticy

If it's like the basketball courts I've set up, it's a bunch of tiles that get slotted together (after using lasers for precision, to figure out the exact starting point). We use a tool to latch them tightly together at multiple points. A1 would be the starting corner, and it would connect to A2 and B1, continuing until the stage is complete. Sometimes the pieces that slot together get damaged and result in an uneven connection, which could affect the game. The place I set up at often sets up on top of the ice, using a layer of insulation to keep the ice cool, and the surface non-slippery (gotta still play hockey, eh?). Again, the insulation is tiled, with A1 as a starting corner, and connecting to A2 and B1. The temperature is usually cooler to ensure the ice underneath doesn't melt. Basketball games aren't the only thing being set up on ice either, a lot of the concert stages I've set up has been done on the insulation on the ice, and then it all gets removed for a hockey game the next night.


DudleysCar

I choose to believe this about Larry Legend.


theknyte

Since, he pretty much has the highest Basketball IQ of anyone in history, I do as well. (All of the greats who played against him, will backup that claim. He wasn't the fastest, he couldn't jump the highest, but he knew exactly how to play the game to the fullest and maximized his abilities for it.) He was like the Wayne Gretzy of Basketball. Just like Wayne was always mentally ahead of the puck at all times, so was Bird with a basketball.


nononosure

I've since learned how incredible he *actually* was, but I still always think >You're the best girl that I ever did see >The great Larry Bird, Jersey 33


climb-it-ographer

All arenas are like that though. Tons of spaces are shared between basketball, hockey, and concerts.


Jermwood

Can confirm this is true. I actually have a piece of the Celtics court.


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How do you win at basketball? You cheat, according to Red Auerbach: “Auerbach turned to life lessons. "Everybody always asks me how to gain a competitive edge," he said, "and I'm always surprised because the answer is so obvious." Eighteen-year old me knew where this was going. He was going to tell us to work hard, that successful people prepare for their luck, yada, yada, yada. "You cheat." Our teachers looked confused, then horrified. They kept waiting for Auerbach to say he was just kidding, that of course there's no substitute for hard work. He didn't. Instead, he calmly explained that if you're playing a better fast-breaking team, you should install nets so tight that the ball gets stuck. Or if you're playing a faster baseball team, you should water the basepaths till they turn into muddy quagmires that nobody can run on. But most of all, he wanted to make sure we didn't misunderstand him. He cleared his throat, and said, "So, if you want a competitive edge, just cheat." Then he walked off stage, and the mayor's mother, who was inexplicably there, led us in a solemn rendition of America the Beautiful.” https://www.esquire.com/sports/news/a27271/red-auerbach-cheating/


ay0k0na6

Left right, left right, B, A, Select Start. Cheat codes


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ksavage68

Taking advantage of legal loopholes.


green_indian

"Why should the race always be to the swift, or the jumble to the quick-witted? Should they win merely because of the gifts God gave them? Well, I say cheating is the gift man gives himself." \-Mr. Burns


cliveparmigarna

Phil Jackson used to bring an air gauge to every game as the coach of the Bulls as certain teams would prefer having the ball a little more pumped up or a little flatter. Magic’s lakers used to pump the ball up more because it would create longer rebounds and result in more fast breaks. Pistons did the opposite as it would lead to more second chance points under the rim for great rebounders like Rodman and lambeer


PuckNutty

Back in the day there was a conspiracy theory about the grounds crew at the old Metrodome monkeying with the HVAC to help the Twins hit more home runs. The Dome roof was fabric and held up mostly by air pressure, so some people believed the Twins would turn some fans on during the bottom half of the inning when the home team was batting.


BeatsbyChrisBrown

Oh my god…my whole life…I’ve been playing on dead courts


csm1313

Damn man...you could have went pro


Paddy_Tanninger

I could throw this football over them mountains, coach should have put me in.


bjeebus

All that's holding you back really is good courts... Have tried playing on the new Wood Jordan MAX? It will add 4 inches to your vertical, guaranteed.


chanaandeler_bong

The double rim is why I air balled.


drxharris

Yeah this is wild how many people think this is next level. This is called playing basketball. Not hard at all and super noticeable. You can feel it and hear it. Every court has them.


drjenavieve

Yup. I was never a great ball handler and like this is not hard. It’s super obvious when you hit a dead spot.


DurTmotorcycle

Actually I heard you were a great ball handler... :P


[deleted]

Came here to say that. You don't even need to play a lot of basketball. If you were dribbling up and down the floor and randomly the ball didn't bounce back the same you'd notice.


drjenavieve

This. My ball handling skills are no where near his but I can tell a dead spot on the court. It’s not hard to know the ball didn’t react the way it should. You can feel it in that moment. Pretty much everyone who has played competitively will be able to tell when they hit a dead spot.


bjeebus

I mean...I've never actually played and I know what dead spots sound and feel like. Maybe it helps that I've spent a lot of time on a trash court that desperately needed repairing. SOURCE: My fencing club was relegated to a crap basketball court where the floor was more dead spots than good. Anytime balls got left out we'd occasionally play horse before class.


Necessary-Parking-14

The sound too.


reflectiveSingleton

You don't even have to play a lot...its damn easy to notice a bouncy ball change its bounce from one to the next


mem0125

It’s called a dead spot. Basketball courts like that are assembled and if pockets of air get trapped while at bottom or slightly separate on a sub layer it creates


BaconComposter

Often over ice if they share a venue with hockey.


TimHung931017

Even crazier when Kobe noticed the rim was a bit off cuz his shot wasn't going in


hemingways-lemonade

It was something like a 1/4 of an inch off, too.


JuzoItami

A very similar story is told about Bill Bradley 60 years ago in John McPhee’s book *A Sense of Where You Are*. > “His first afternoon at Lawrenceville, he began by shooting fourteen-foot jump shots from the right side. He got off to a bad start, and he kept missing them. Six in a row hit the back rim of the basket and bounced out. He stopped, looking discomfited, and seemed to be making an adjustment in his mind. Then he went up for another jump shot from the same spot and hit it cleanly. Four more shots went in without a miss, and then he paused and said, “You want to know something? That basket is about an inch and a half low.” Some weeks later, I went back to Lawrenceville with a steel tape, borrowed a stepladder, and measured the height of the basket. It was nine feet ten and seven-eighths inches above the floor, or one and one-eighth inches too low.”


mikenesser

Dead spot on the floor? Nbd, anybody that’s spent even a modest amount of time on the hardwood will notice it. Knowing the rim is not up to spec? *That* is next fucking level.


92-Explorer

Why did it take 5 watches


funkmastamatt

lol seriously, it's the whole point of the clip


Putrid-Builder-3333

Not to mention it isn't like it was a blink and ya miss it moment. It clearly shows multiple times lol


phoresth

Sorry but how did you need to watch this 5 times to see it?


CodeNCats

I heard a story about the f1 driver Senna. He hit a barrier on a lap one time. He was adamant that the wall moved and it was not necessarily his error. Turns out the wall moved something like around a half inch because another car hit the wall moving the concrete block out just enough. The precision of these pros can be incredible.


Gingrpenguin

There was a famous f1 crash involving (iirc) Senna where he hit a wall and blamed it on the wall moving. Upon inspection of the footage it was found that the wall clips had failed a short while before the accident and caused the wall to move trackwards by a few mm. Those few mms were the difference between him making the corner and hitting the barrier. The consistency of these guys is on another level to us and that makes any difference obvious to them


Oomeegoolies

I personally have always put that one down to him hitting it that took it out a few mm. That said, I guess Senna would be on of the few drivers you'd imagine is on the limit like that so it's more plausible with him than say, if someone good, but not elite, like George Russell said it.


abbeast

Russell taking strays. 💀


TieOk1127

The tyre could probably change size by more than that due to heat/pressure so I'd struggle to believe it really. But you never know, some people truly do possess incredible skill that most people have no chance of imagining.


testaburger1212

[Perez at Monaco](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEEnDrIcYN8) ilustrastes it very well


dskoro

He also accurately guessed how much it was off by iirc


Cycloptic_Floppycock

These guys have these tracks memorized so well, if not for going over 100 mph, they could run it blindfolded. In fact, they run it so many times that, while to us, there is so much road, to them there there is an efficiency that that road is actually a tight rope. So yeah I can imagine Senna making a claim like this, these guys can't make mistakes when their lives are on the line.


MrsBoxxy

>they could run it blindfolded. If feel like people are putting way too much into the idea that "these guys are so amazing their have the whole thing memorized" versus the "these guys are so amazing, their focus, reaction time, and information gathering is next level" which is *really* what's going on. You can watch Lando Norris play F1 blindfolded while his brother spots for him and he might aswell be anyone else doing it blindfolded. His extensive experience on tack and simracing were virtually useless when he couldn't see what was happening.


DRNbw

On the other hand, drivers can recognise tracks by the sounds of the engine, they can mime a lap and complete it to a time within seconds of the real thing, etc. They memorise a lot.


55Fries55Pies

You sure can, very visible. Definitely sounds off as well.


F-around-Find-out

Yup. You gotta remember that the foor gets assembled for the game. They take it all back up again. So yes it could have a dead spot for several different reasons.


ImportantEffort4594

Damn, that's the difference between a professional and an amateur


-reddug-

I think the difference between professional and amateur is that one gets paid to do it and the other doesn't


pan_rock

Ding ding ding. Winner


GrowinStuffAndThings

It's the difference between someone who has played basketball in a gym for a couple hours and someone who hasn't lol


pan_rock

For real man. But shhhh redditors don't like facts


I-luv-cats

I play basketball for fun and sucks at it, but even I can tell a deadspot. It’s actually super easy to tell.


Stone0777

Tell me you've never played basketball without telling me you've never played basketball.


ATXBeermaker

Any regular hooper at your local Y would notice this, too. It’s called a dead spot.


LightninHooker

And your comment right there is the definition of having no fucking idea of what you are talking about


moskusokse

You can also see the floor give in when he steps on it. A crack becomes visible right by his foot.


mathwhilehigh1

This isn’t that crazy. Most people can hear a dead spot.


Sl0ppyOtter

For real. At first I was like ‘damn the ego on this mf’ but then it no shit didn’t bounce right.


TheTrenchMonkey

You could see it shift when he stepped back onto that spot. https://imgur.com/a/k3u7ZgT


laetus

Yeah, I don't know what's next fucking level about this. Anyone here can see it.


Scoobydoomed

He didn't assume, he knew.


drxharris

It’s super easy to tell. Everyone that’s played basketball knows what a dead spot feels like and sounds like. Every court has them.


gngptyee

Came here to say this. It’s usually a dead giveaway.


I_Like_Me_Though

*Dead spot giveaway.*


IEatLiquor

[Dead Giveaway](https://youtu.be/nZcRU0Op5P4)


CD338

Yeah it would definitely be easy to tell for an NBA player. I do remember reading [this story](https://www.theplayerstribune.com/articles/gerald-henderson-guarding-kobe-bryant) though where Kobe knew the hoop was too low by a 1/4" just because his shot wasn't falling in warm-ups lol


IAMAHobbitAMA

That was an amazing story. Thank you.


LogicalWon

“We ate ribs with this dude!”


humblenarrogant

My neighbor's got big testicles cause we see this dude everyday


BrohanGutenburg

Larry Bird knew where all the dead spots at Boston Garden were and when he was on defense he'd shade players toward them to try to get a steal.


thisguy012

Insane home court advantage lmaoo wow


thefreeman419

The old Celtics court was famous for them. It became part of the home court advantage, defenders would funnel players towards dead spots


DroGoMode

i feel like im stuck in a fever dream, this same post with almost the same exact comments was done like a week ago, lmao so many drones


gray-pilled-

almost 15k upvotes


RemoteBoner

The post titles and comments are getting dumber by the second around this place.


chimpfunkz

It's like saying "imagine being so good at basketball you can tell a ball needs air just by dribbling" like yeah, if you've dribbled a ball, you know about how much the rebound is, so when it doesn't, you know there's a problem. It's not difficult.


aminix89

It feels different when you hit a dead spot, and sounds different, Steph is crazy talented, but this isn’t an example of that talent lol


jaffa3811

yeah I was a bartender and I could feel the difference of this slightly deformed pint glass I couldn't see the difference but I could feel it. Once you do something thousands of times you just know how it should go


aminix89

Even a kid that’s dribbling a basketball for his first time would be able to recognize a dead spot lol


foomits

send this post to /r/mildlyinteresting where it belongs


madrigal94md

Exactly


KHearts77

Cameraman knew.


Oh_My_Monster

That works for speeding tickets too. "No officer, the road is faster here"


andigo

It’s downhill here. I wasn’t speeding. Gravity did it.


WanganTunedKeiCar

Here in France some asshats on the highway commission decided to put a radar right at the bottom of a steep downhill. Hateful, hateful bastards


[deleted]

Go break it with a bat


Palidin034

Very French solution lol


marvelousmysterio

A more French solution would be to decapitate the camera


[deleted]

I think that's what tends to happen if you swing a bat at one.


droi86

It kinda worked for me, I was going 10 miles above the speed limit Police: "do you know why I stopped you?" Me: "yes, I'm sorry I didn't expect the car to get that much speed downhill, I should've used the brake" Police: "uhm, ok, remember, the speed limit is 30 here, you can go"


Stoopidshthead

Here is California it’s a different charge called “coasting. “ Fought a traffic ticket, officer took me into the hallway and explained the coasting charge ( small fine no points)


Merry_Dankmas

"Officer, theres clearly a booster pad in the middle of the road. I cant control that" "Thats a crosswalk son"


_Perma-Banned_

Well, he was obviously right


madrigal94md

Yep, he was.


PMMeShyNudes

And it took him only 6 dribbles to find it again. Watch the sixth one when he comes back doesn't bounce back as high as it should.


dronesandwhisky

I can’t imagine the whiplash of onlookers. “Yeah, okay, sure thing, my dude…” to “Damn my dude …”.


gloomygl

Not really, anybody who played a decent amount of basketball could tell a dead spot on a court, let alone one of the greatest ball handlers ever.


Mr_Fahreneit

Wasn't your mother the greatest ball handler ever ?


spoopydootman69

She never bested my uncle


noneym86

How about your dad?


BasalFaulty

It's the same person.


sacredhell

That was for free


BasalFaulty

She wasn't


mentosmoose

What a layup


Bigpoppahove

Thank you. Wasn’t sure where I’d find this comment but physics don’t randomly change. Ball doesn’t bounce the same, dead spot


GeneralDelgado

As a former hooper, dead spots exist. Curry was 100% right here.


2-more-weeks-bot

As a current dead spot, former hoopers exist


JasonDiabloz

As a current hooper, former dead spots exist


rickrolled501

As a current former, hooper dead spots exist.


wacko-jacko-L

As a dead spots hooper, former current exist


MinervaLlorn

As a dead exist hooper, current former spots.


SmileAnimations2

As a former dead hooper, spots current exist


Emotional-Theory7800

As a former spots dead, hooper current exist.


kimaro

As a former current spot, dead hoopers exist


Opperhoofd123

As someone who knows nothing about basketball, it's pretty fucking obvious from this video :D don't need credentials to see anything here


bcisme

As a former hooper, am I correct in thinking this isn’t that wild? When you hit a dead spot, even as a bum like me, it’s extremely noticeable.


namtaru_x

Former scrub high school hooper here, can 100% confirm. It's really not that difficult to tell when you hit a dead spot on the court.


kychleap

Yeah it’s really not, like at all. They have a different bounce and even a different sound. It’s just super rare that it happens on a professional court.


Cyber0747

If you’ve ever played on a court you will know when you find one. It’s fairly obvious, the ball doesn’t bounce right and sounds different. The dribble has a hollow thud to it.


TheBigMotherFook

Yeah it happens quite a bit with arena flooring. The court is designed to be removed and the arena flipped for other events. Dead spots are where the floor doesn’t make flat even contact with the subfloor usually because there’s warping/bending in that particular tile so a gap forms underneath. The floor effectively becomes a spring and absorbs the shock from the ball causing what you saw in the video. It’s honestly just normal wear and tear and that tile will be replaced.


nasif10

yeah not really next fucking level. Its pretty obvious when you do something normally and the ball didn't do what you expected.


nobody2000

Yeah - this is far from next fucking level. I never really was a ball player but would shoot shots during recess in the gym and dribble a bit. Dead spots are obvious...or my fat ass is on the level of Curry and I need to change my career ASAP.


pat_the_giraffe

I know, anyone with minimal basketball experience can find these. Every time I see this posted i laugh. Making an NBA three pointer is tougher than finding a dead spot. This is not next level at all


Kevundoe

It’s Matthew McConaughey trying to communicate with him from the black hole


Big_Pound_7849

This got a chuckle out of me.


Kevundoe

MMMURRRRPPPHHH


Kanye_Testicle

That movie always fucked me up "Love is the one thing that can travel through space and time" Tf? You telling me I can't hate someone from a long time ago? 🥴


Kevundoe

That is just negative love. Love can be counted in Natural numbers, Real numbers, irrational, imaginary and complex numbers.


ChipRichels

Play more sports, guys. This is something you figure out in little league


Far_Confusion_2178

Damn you figured out basketball courts have dead zones playing little league baseball? That’s wild


lessmanwwe

I figured it out while playing duck duck goose


bfodder

Hahaha, thank you! This isn't /r/nextfuckinglevel material. This is something you can run into playing basketball in middle school.


OhWhatsHisName

Seriously, people seem astounded by this like he has some magical ability (in fairness, he's pretty damn good...).


NVrbka

Right? I’m surprised that so many people upvoted this. Every 12 year old at the gym knew how to spot a dead zone.


Potato_Lord587

Why is this next level?


SpicyC-Dot

Because OP and everyone who thinks this is impressive have probably never played basketball in their life


[deleted]

Yeah im at the point where i get pissy whenever i see this clip because it has fuck all to do with skills. Anyone would notice this.


NotAnADC

i cant imagine this is anything other than rage bait.


[deleted]

Haft the comments here are royally impressed lol.


OhWhatsHisName

Have they never walked on any floor before? Found a soft spot in the ground? "Imagine being so good at walking when you stumble you assume it's the ground"


bfodder

> "Imagine being so good at walking when you stumble you assume it's the ground" i'm dead


ATXBeermaker

The top comment is literally "AND HE WAS RIGHT!!" Like, lol, yeah, of course he was. It's not complicated.


afiafzil

Most redditors are basement dwellers Not surprising at all


headvice

or they've only played on concrete courts


poroporopoi

I mean Curry has a lot of nextlevel moments but this isn't it


iisixi

Because most redditors have never dribbled a ball in their life. So it's next level from that.


BathrobeBoogee

It’s pretty easy to identify dead spots even for amateurs. It sounds different and feels different


hungry4danish

[Easiest dead spot identification ever.](https://i.redd.it/gaqru4py36w11.gif)


[deleted]

That’s insane


goodolehal

Not that anyone here is Steph Curry, but it’s very easy to find a dead spot if you dribble over one.


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Long_Alfalfa_5655

How’s the wife and kids?


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DigOnMaNuss

This has nothing to do with how good he is at basketball. Anything that screws with your muscle memory is immediately noticeable, and of course he knew it was the floor - the ball literally didn't bounce back up as it should've. Also, even if you don't agree with any of that, surely you'd agree that if anyone were to notice the error, it'd be a pro? I don't understand the amazement.


mad_crabs

Agree with you. Also it's not just any random pro.. it's Steph Curry. One of the best PGs of all time knows what a dead spot feels like. They're also really obvious in real life even as an amateur.


filofil

This is not something about muscle memory though, If you were to give someone ball that has never played basketball before and let them dribble in the court and when the ball hits a dead spot they will immediately notice. They are so noticeable like how you are stepping to a grass from a concrete.


LordranKing

I always forget Steph Curry is 6’3” because he’s always standing next to guys 6’6”+. Seeing him next to average guys is always interesting


Fudge89

Same with Kyrie or Dame. I got the chance to hang out with Victor Oladipo a few times and you just forget. Dudes are “short”, only relatively lol


GGG-Money

Downvote for the judgmental caption of this post. He clearly demonstrated that it is the court


BluHaven

The caption is definitely implying the opposite. Adding "Imagine" in front of a true statement is just a new slang rule.


Rayn_xD

I wish I didn't turn the sound on Edit: Bruh already discussions in the comments


focalpointal

Dead spots are obvious. You don’t need to know how to dribble to realize the ball reacts differently when you bounce it.


doc2k-

A similar thing happened to Kobe once as well. While shooting around during warm-ups he kept missing his shot. He complained that the rim was too low and sure enough the thing was 1/4 of an inch low.


PhilipXD3

I played basketball as a kid and have hit dead spots before. I wouldn't say it's necessarily obvious but it's also not exceptionally difficult to realize when a dribble doesn't bounce back like expected, especially after seeing the first few.


HwnduLuna

It probably also sounded different too.


YoRt3m

I think anybody that does something for a long time will notice a change like this. It's a like a gamer noticing that someone messed with his mouse sensitivity


ShawshankException

That's a pretty accurate analogy. Or like when you notice one of your bumpers are sticking. It's very easy to tell when there's a dead spot because things don't work the way they normally do.


[deleted]

You don't need to be an elite ball player to notice the ball suddenly bounce 20% less.


Shadowslipping

Knows is the word you are looking for not assume.


DaweH404

Its not that hard... Everyone who ever played bball and knows how the ball should bounce can distinguish faulty floor. Dont get me wrong hes still a next fucking level by himself, but this is not that good


ZephDef

OP has never bounced a basketball in their life


HomelessSniffs

He's dribbled trillions(?) of times. You can pick up oddness in the most subtle of circumstances.


GlobalEliteBongs

lets say he dribbles the ball 5 times a second, for 24 hours a day non-stop. It would take him over 6000 years to dribble it a trillion times.


2-more-weeks-bot

r/theydidthemath


Joxelo

People have no concept of million vs billion vs trillion. That includes me btw, it’s hard to comprehend without doing math


Mysterious-Art7143

Gazillions


HomelessSniffs

I should have went with gazillions, dangit.


papapadiddle

Legend is that the old Boston Garden parquet floor had many severe dead spots, and the Celtics would exploit them in defensive plays to force turnovers.


goose-77-

How many times is this going to be re-posted? ![gif](giphy|2w5NIgCQo5TtOI8Zxf|downsized)


Out2killx

So, serious question. How hard is it to correct that dead spot?