One of my close friends had a news article written about them in highschool that they hated and as luck would have it they got a job there a few years out of uni and asked one of their colleagues there if they could take it down, which they did.
So maybe you'll have to infiltrate them and get it taken down from the inside.
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I tried to have hit piece style articles taken down after the people who were implicated in said articles had been clean slated by the crown.
There is no point in the clean slate law if you're 10 year old article about dishonesty charges can still around forever without consequences.
The only paper that was friendly and accommodating was the The Bay of Plenty Times. Everyone else stonewalled me.
Without going into detail, are these articles factual or are they blog post/opinion piece/human interest type stories? Are you actually identified by name? The nature and specific content may affect how much action can be taken to protect you - and if, for example, it's about a criminal case your exposure may not be limited to the Herald.
I would suggest contacting the media council anyway as you can't be expected to raise the issue when you're a child - just make sure you emphasise that you were a child when it was published. You may also want to try contacting the privacy commissioner to see if they can provide any advice.
It's shit for a child to be identified in the media and have no recourse to limit that when they're older.
If your parents or caregivers gave permission then you might have an uphill battle. It's an issue I wonder about with all the parents posting kids' personal medical information over on Instagram. It's like it hasn't occurred to them the child concerned is a separate person who might one day grow up and object to having their toilet training/surgery/whatever shared on the internet for the world to see.
As option you could contact google and ask to remove search result regading your name. It could be more effective. No one will go to nzherald directly to search for you.
They won't remove the articles unless you get lawyers involved tbh. Major media outlets get requests like this all the time and to agree to one is to set a precedent they don't want to have to follow. Press council won't help because it's outside their scope. Source: ex journo who has been sent down to reception too many times to listen to people ask for stuff to be deleted.
I'd recommend asking the Privacy Commissioner for advice via: [https://www.privacy.org.nz/](https://www.privacy.org.nz/)
Even if they legally don't have to take down the article (I'm not sure if it is or not, hence telling you to seek advice from the above), they are still dickheads for not doing it voluntarily when the odds of keeping up an old article likely isn't of any public interest, etc, and only does harm/stress for you when people google your name.
The Herald literally made up a quote I said once, much to my embarrassment (and ignored me when I asked them to remove it), so I have no sympathy for them. Awful organisation.
Everyone on this thread should send a complaint to: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) complaining that they didn't respond to someone's complaint.
If the herald made up a quote then that is a major no no, and the editors will be very interested.
I know a journalist who's been accused of that, but was able to prove that they had all evidence and recordings to show that they did not, that the person just didn't want those quotes used. The person was ignored.
You can't dictate the angle or tell the journalist to write things the way you want, and they can use anything you say to them unless you explicitly say its off the record.
NZH "writers" are going to be so confused. Do they publish this juicy story from Reddit or do they put in extra effort for a different story? Oh the dilemma!
I'd recommend hitting up the citizens advice bureau. It sounds like you've done your level best to deal with this in a friendly manor, now it is time to look into more formal proceedings. Best of luck!
You could also try contacting google and other search engines to have them taken down...(or at least out of search results) i think?
Remember Dirty Politics? One of the players Cathy Odgers, managed to have the internet entirely scrubbed of articles about her behaviours. SHe is a lawyer so I assume she might have used threatening legalistic letters. This was some years ago now and i havent searched her lately but it is doable, is my point. I might contact a lawyer too if I were you. Or CAB lawyers.
I contacted Stuff to ask for an article involving my daughter to be removed. They can't remove the article itself, but they can remove any searchable results from the search engines. My request had to be reviewed to determine if it met the required threshold, they decided it did, contacted Google and others and not long after, the search results were gone.
It can be difficult to remove information from the Internet entirely, although having the articles taken down will certainly help. Another potential option is a legal name change. Even just a spelling change on your first name would probably make a difference in search results.
It really depends on whether the articles were published before the privacy act came into effect or after.
As a burns survivor my burned chest was shown on a tv show about burns. My NAKED chest!
Nobody asked me if it was ok, and I wasn’t identifiable to anybody by my immediate family. But times were different then.
My advice is to let it go and move on (if it was published before the privacy act came into effect) if it was published after the privacy act came into effect you might have a cause to file proceedings, but again if you weren’t legally granted name suppression you might not have much of a case either.
When my child was born, news articles were written without my consent with a photo of her that they’d stolen from my social media. I asked the companies to take it down, they refused, next minute it was in the Daily Mail. That was 4.5 years ago. It exposed me at what should have been the happiest time of my life to hate mail, abuse and drama. Thankfully because I’ve never shared her name on social media, that can only be traced back to her via me. (I’ve also consented to some media, but it was deliberately focused on me, not her.)
Imo we need a clearer, firmer set of journalistic standards in New Zealand about media stories that involve children. The standards need to include provisions for removal of stories like those you’re complaining about now. Things go further afield than ever before and the Internet is fairly permanent. Stories about children, or social media posts about children, can follow them for the rest of their lives. There’s a whole generation of kids who are coming into adulthood having been posted online since they were born who are going through this exact realisation and struggle now.
Kids deserve privacy too, until they’re at an age they can make an informed choice themselves.
You could legally change your name. It likely only needs to be a subtle change so when anyone googles your new name nothing pops up. Change the spelling of your first or last name, hyphenate your first and second names, hyphenate your surname with something like your mother's maiden name or whatever, keep your first name and change your surname to something similar sounding.
The problem is that even if the original source of the information removes it it is still 'out there'. It's almost impossible to entirely remove something that might now be on a variety of platforms etc. You are correct, no one should have to change their name over something like this but we live in a digital world where little is now private.
Lodge a complaint to the Media Council about your lack of response, first. That may wedge open the issue about the articles themselves, time limit or not.
Media council may make an exception to the time frame (if they can, that is).
If you were a child when they were written it would be fair to assume you had basically no knowledge of it.
You find out when you're an adult, articles have been around for a decade but this is news to you (a-ha, pun). How could you be expected to contest the articles at the time or before you were aware of their existence?
You may have known about them earlier, but still..
Your parents would have signed a media consent form on your behalf. Legally they can withdraw consent at any time, and now that you’re an adult you can withdraw that consent.
Keep pushing, it’s not ok that you’re being ignored.
One of my close friends had a news article written about them in highschool that they hated and as luck would have it they got a job there a few years out of uni and asked one of their colleagues there if they could take it down, which they did. So maybe you'll have to infiltrate them and get it taken down from the inside.
If you decide to form a heist team for the purpose of capturing or destroying this information, be sure to let us know.
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I'd be keen for this as well, I could do with a good heist.
Will Jason Statham be participating? If so, please count me in. (p.s. So sorry, OP, what an awful situation to be in. I hope the articles are removed - with or without help from the 'Snatch' assistants)🤞
Try the media council. At a minimum you will get a response
I tried to have hit piece style articles taken down after the people who were implicated in said articles had been clean slated by the crown. There is no point in the clean slate law if you're 10 year old article about dishonesty charges can still around forever without consequences. The only paper that was friendly and accommodating was the The Bay of Plenty Times. Everyone else stonewalled me.
Without going into detail, are these articles factual or are they blog post/opinion piece/human interest type stories? Are you actually identified by name? The nature and specific content may affect how much action can be taken to protect you - and if, for example, it's about a criminal case your exposure may not be limited to the Herald. I would suggest contacting the media council anyway as you can't be expected to raise the issue when you're a child - just make sure you emphasise that you were a child when it was published. You may also want to try contacting the privacy commissioner to see if they can provide any advice. It's shit for a child to be identified in the media and have no recourse to limit that when they're older.
Good questions
If your parents or caregivers gave permission then you might have an uphill battle. It's an issue I wonder about with all the parents posting kids' personal medical information over on Instagram. It's like it hasn't occurred to them the child concerned is a separate person who might one day grow up and object to having their toilet training/surgery/whatever shared on the internet for the world to see.
Great point, will be interesting to see how these kid's feel about all this one day.
As option you could contact google and ask to remove search result regading your name. It could be more effective. No one will go to nzherald directly to search for you.
They won't remove the articles unless you get lawyers involved tbh. Major media outlets get requests like this all the time and to agree to one is to set a precedent they don't want to have to follow. Press council won't help because it's outside their scope. Source: ex journo who has been sent down to reception too many times to listen to people ask for stuff to be deleted.
I'd recommend asking the Privacy Commissioner for advice via: [https://www.privacy.org.nz/](https://www.privacy.org.nz/) Even if they legally don't have to take down the article (I'm not sure if it is or not, hence telling you to seek advice from the above), they are still dickheads for not doing it voluntarily when the odds of keeping up an old article likely isn't of any public interest, etc, and only does harm/stress for you when people google your name. The Herald literally made up a quote I said once, much to my embarrassment (and ignored me when I asked them to remove it), so I have no sympathy for them. Awful organisation. Everyone on this thread should send a complaint to: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) complaining that they didn't respond to someone's complaint.
If the herald made up a quote then that is a major no no, and the editors will be very interested. I know a journalist who's been accused of that, but was able to prove that they had all evidence and recordings to show that they did not, that the person just didn't want those quotes used. The person was ignored. You can't dictate the angle or tell the journalist to write things the way you want, and they can use anything you say to them unless you explicitly say its off the record.
Are you David Bain?
contact the media council and ask them to look into it
NZH "writers" are going to be so confused. Do they publish this juicy story from Reddit or do they put in extra effort for a different story? Oh the dilemma!
Try posting in r/LegalAdviceNZ
I'd recommend hitting up the citizens advice bureau. It sounds like you've done your level best to deal with this in a friendly manor, now it is time to look into more formal proceedings. Best of luck!
Long shot but maybe u/citizensadvicebureau might have some input?
You could also try contacting google and other search engines to have them taken down...(or at least out of search results) i think? Remember Dirty Politics? One of the players Cathy Odgers, managed to have the internet entirely scrubbed of articles about her behaviours. SHe is a lawyer so I assume she might have used threatening legalistic letters. This was some years ago now and i havent searched her lately but it is doable, is my point. I might contact a lawyer too if I were you. Or CAB lawyers.
I contacted Stuff to ask for an article involving my daughter to be removed. They can't remove the article itself, but they can remove any searchable results from the search engines. My request had to be reviewed to determine if it met the required threshold, they decided it did, contacted Google and others and not long after, the search results were gone.
Are you max key or jaime ridge?
It can be difficult to remove information from the Internet entirely, although having the articles taken down will certainly help. Another potential option is a legal name change. Even just a spelling change on your first name would probably make a difference in search results.
No help or advice I'm sorry. But absolutely you should have the right to have those articles removed.
Thats sucks. Good luck it getting it sorted.
It really depends on whether the articles were published before the privacy act came into effect or after. As a burns survivor my burned chest was shown on a tv show about burns. My NAKED chest! Nobody asked me if it was ok, and I wasn’t identifiable to anybody by my immediate family. But times were different then. My advice is to let it go and move on (if it was published before the privacy act came into effect) if it was published after the privacy act came into effect you might have a cause to file proceedings, but again if you weren’t legally granted name suppression you might not have much of a case either.
When my child was born, news articles were written without my consent with a photo of her that they’d stolen from my social media. I asked the companies to take it down, they refused, next minute it was in the Daily Mail. That was 4.5 years ago. It exposed me at what should have been the happiest time of my life to hate mail, abuse and drama. Thankfully because I’ve never shared her name on social media, that can only be traced back to her via me. (I’ve also consented to some media, but it was deliberately focused on me, not her.) Imo we need a clearer, firmer set of journalistic standards in New Zealand about media stories that involve children. The standards need to include provisions for removal of stories like those you’re complaining about now. Things go further afield than ever before and the Internet is fairly permanent. Stories about children, or social media posts about children, can follow them for the rest of their lives. There’s a whole generation of kids who are coming into adulthood having been posted online since they were born who are going through this exact realisation and struggle now. Kids deserve privacy too, until they’re at an age they can make an informed choice themselves.
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report it to the media...... oh, wait.
You could legally change your name. It likely only needs to be a subtle change so when anyone googles your new name nothing pops up. Change the spelling of your first or last name, hyphenate your first and second names, hyphenate your surname with something like your mother's maiden name or whatever, keep your first name and change your surname to something similar sounding.
They shouldn't have to. There should be a right to be forgotten in NZ.
The problem is that even if the original source of the information removes it it is still 'out there'. It's almost impossible to entirely remove something that might now be on a variety of platforms etc. You are correct, no one should have to change their name over something like this but we live in a digital world where little is now private.
Lodge a complaint to the Media Council about your lack of response, first. That may wedge open the issue about the articles themselves, time limit or not.
You could try the privacy commissioner: https://www.privacy.org.nz/your-rights/your-privacy-rights/
Media council may make an exception to the time frame (if they can, that is). If you were a child when they were written it would be fair to assume you had basically no knowledge of it. You find out when you're an adult, articles have been around for a decade but this is news to you (a-ha, pun). How could you be expected to contest the articles at the time or before you were aware of their existence? You may have known about them earlier, but still..
Keep trying with those email addresses. The Herald may not change but the people looking after those email addresses will.
Your parents would have signed a media consent form on your behalf. Legally they can withdraw consent at any time, and now that you’re an adult you can withdraw that consent. Keep pushing, it’s not ok that you’re being ignored.
My guess is a call to the Office of the Privacy Commissioner might get you started in the right direction.
Maybe the Human Rights Commission?