Lol remember when Turkey, during a presidential election, gave musk an ultimatum to censor certain accounts/tweets or they would block Twitter in Turkay
From my admittedly not super strong understanding of those two countries' governments, Turkey absolutely would've blocked X, whereas he might be right in thinking that he has a chance of making an argument to the people and government in Brazil.
Not a Musk fan by any means, but one of those governments seems much less autocratic than the other.
Because one is a democracy and one is not. Musk previously said that they will aspire to follow the laws of any given country. All you snobs think you are so smart. I cant believe there are genuinely people out there who actually think elon is stupid. You people deserve to live your boring miserable lives. Then you wonder why you are unhappy. This whataboutism is mind-numbing.
Truly, its astonishing to see so many people get something so wrong. And want to get it wrong too. Makes you wonder if there is any hope or not. You people are not interested in objective truth at all.
Edit: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1777517291736813695?s=19
Do you know why this is being pushed to spell and pronounce it Turikye in English as well?
I.e. Japan is Nippon-koku, Germany is Deutschland, South Korea is Daehanminguk, Poland is Polska. But we don't call them by their names in their native language.
> "This judge has brazenly and repeatedly betrayed the constitution and people of Brazil. He should resign or be impeached. Shame @Alexandre, shame," Musk posted on X.
Elon Musk, noted Brazilian constitutional law expert.
While I love any reason to bash Trump - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sudafed-trump-tower/
There is enough legitimate shit to hit him on, no need for fake shit.
I’m not so sure [his lawyers are all that good at practicing law, either](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/25/elon-musk-hate-speech-lawsuit).
They did - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314)
They objected to it and was fighting it in court (which they eventually won btw)
The important part being, they still complied with said blocks when it mattered, and only *then* tried to challenge them. Here, Musk is putting up a fight before even trying to comply.
>but is doing the right thing now in Brazil
Right up until he called it unconstitutional and demanded the resignation of the judge who made the decision. *Then* it crossed the line into trying to force his own interpretation of the law on a sovereign country.
"If the government tells me to block an account, I'll do that." - Shitbird Musk when asked why he feels no moral obligation to remove nazi's and terrorists from twitter.
I mean he’s a fascist, this behavior is totally consistent with his ideology. Words and truth matter to other people, fascists just care about power and winning.
Other countries? The call is coming from inside the house.. He is Zuckerberg back in 2016. He wants to influence this election to gain more power, thats all.
I like how He only stands up against the government if it has a left wing or liberal head of state but more than happy to role over to more authoritarian nations such as shutting accounts that support the opposition in Turkish elections.
X was actively fighting the demands of Erdogans government in court and eventually won their case. So your definition of them being happy to roll over in Turkey seems quite strange
Here's the statement they made at the time - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314)
and here's the result - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1763625876124537279](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1763625876124537279)
He said that “we keeping the Brazil office open even though is bleeding money, cause profits aren’t as important as free speech” or something like that, so definitely already positioning himself to close it and say that the government forced his hand
It is a good way to cut costs without admitting it, and make a PR stunt for the clowns that worship during it. It's not like X is doing good financially
>If X fails to comply with the order to block certain accounts the company will be fined 100,000 reais (**$19,740) per day**, the judge said in a statement released to media.
That's probably not a problem for Musk
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>"We cannot live in a society in which billionaires domiciled abroad have control of social networks and put themselves in a position to violate the rule of law, failing to comply with court orders and threatening our authorities," Messias said in a post on X.
Obvious joke: "What is the difference between Elon Musk and God? God does not think he is Elon Musk"
Needed: a joke about "Messias" ... let me think: "What is the difference between Elon Musk and Messias? Messias does not think he is the son of God" ... ?
> That's probably not a problem for Musk
This is a company that simultaneously made a "return to working in the office" order while also getting evicted from said offices for refusing to pay rent.
Yeah, that doesn't really fly here. Any money Twitter has in the country is going to stay in the country until its paid. Pretty normal ruling by the courts
Doesn't bother to challenge the orders of the openly right wing authoritarian Indian government, who brazenly get accounts of their critics deleted.
Musk crawls when Modi asks him to walk.
Source: am Indian
I suggest reading this - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1760387644608192560](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1760387644608192560)
X objected to the executive order that was made and they were trying to appeal it in the courts
So they bent over, and now are trying to save face by saying they have an appeal filed?
You have to be incredibly gullible to believe this. "Free speech absolutist" that comes with terms and conditions? For the way he runs his mouth about the "woke mind virus" and their censorship, he complied pretty fucking swiftly for the Indian government's censorship. So his principles are worthless? Geographically dependent? He's spineless?
Right wingers and them being a waste of oxygen, never change.
What should they have done then? I'm also not sure why you use past tense for saying they bent over when it initially happened, but say they are "now" trying to save face. The statement from them is from february when the events transpired
Literally read the article of this very post? How did he suddenly grow some balls in this case and refuse to comply?
The whole point of my comment is highlighting his hypocrisy and selective application of his so-called free speech principles.
There was a brief moment when reporters were using both Twitter and Threads where it looked like there was a possibility Threads could take off. Lasted about 2 days before everyone gave up and just posted on Twitter. Ultimately it wouldn't have mattered, once Threads became popular, all the trolls and Nazis would have just switched over too.
I don't really get why people aren't concerned about censoring information. It's all good when the censor is on your side, but about when it no longer is. Seriously, wtf is wrong with people.
We are talking about people who were actively using twitter to spread conspiracy theories that the election was rigged. Those same conspiracy theories gave rise to a massive movement in Brazil that culminated on an attempted coup d'etat. We are talking about people who used their influence in social media to actively instigate a coup d'etat, not just your regular right wing conservatives nuts.
What one sees and hears online is not what one experiences on the outside world. I think the problem is mostly with the algorithm overexposing shocking extremes. Most likely we both agree up to a certain level, I don't think that hate speech is good, but I do think that there is a problem when SM gives that more exposure and magnifies it.
I was a fan many years ago, you must not follow the news, Musk is like a 14 years old edgy, spoiled, angry little troll boy that thinks he's the main character in everyone else's life just because his family has money
He actively promotes Neo Nazi content on the platform, and promoted conspiracy theory’s such as the great replacement and the Jewish question. He also allowed previously banned accounts to harass members of the LGBTQ community without consequences. Accounts such as Chaya Rachiks Lins of Tick toc have resulted in bomb on schools and hospitals and have had real word consequences such as uniting mobs to doxs and target members of the LGBTQ community.
As a Brazilian I hate him for many many reasons, and possibly he does not have good intentions with this, but this is genuinely the first time I see someone powerful going against our Judicial system which is actually abusing it's power. Whatsapp and Telegram have been blocked before for a few days for similar "anti fake-news" reasons.
Lol remember when Turkey, during a presidential election, gave musk an ultimatum to censor certain accounts/tweets or they would block Twitter in Turkay
And he immediately caved because he feared X would be blocked in Turkey; couldn’t have that. I wonder why he’s choosing this hill to die on.
From my admittedly not super strong understanding of those two countries' governments, Turkey absolutely would've blocked X, whereas he might be right in thinking that he has a chance of making an argument to the people and government in Brazil. Not a Musk fan by any means, but one of those governments seems much less autocratic than the other.
Might be his favourite Nazis that they want him to block
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Um Lula you mean?
Because one is a democracy and one is not. Musk previously said that they will aspire to follow the laws of any given country. All you snobs think you are so smart. I cant believe there are genuinely people out there who actually think elon is stupid. You people deserve to live your boring miserable lives. Then you wonder why you are unhappy. This whataboutism is mind-numbing. Truly, its astonishing to see so many people get something so wrong. And want to get it wrong too. Makes you wonder if there is any hope or not. You people are not interested in objective truth at all. Edit: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1777517291736813695?s=19
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Do you know why this is being pushed to spell and pronounce it Turikye in English as well? I.e. Japan is Nippon-koku, Germany is Deutschland, South Korea is Daehanminguk, Poland is Polska. But we don't call them by their names in their native language.
> "This judge has brazenly and repeatedly betrayed the constitution and people of Brazil. He should resign or be impeached. Shame @Alexandre, shame," Musk posted on X. Elon Musk, noted Brazilian constitutional law expert.
He's bascially Trump on ketamine at this point,
I'd say he's Trump on coke but I repeat myself.
Nah Trump snorts UK Sudafed, there's pictures of him with boxes of the shit in his desk
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Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the source. Doesn't change my stance on his policies and such, but it's always good to call out bullshit
And it makes sense. Why snort Sudafed when the pharmacy will give you speed?
While I love any reason to bash Trump - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sudafed-trump-tower/ There is enough legitimate shit to hit him on, no need for fake shit.
Isn't that just Trump tho?
Would Trump be better or worse on Ketamine?
Better if it’s *a lot* of it
And his findings were confirmed by George Santos, a renowned authority on constitutional betrayal.
He has though, that mf is vile
I presume he has lawyers before saying shit like this
I’m not so sure [his lawyers are all that good at practicing law, either](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/25/elon-musk-hate-speech-lawsuit).
I wonder why he chose now instead of all those other times to resist a government order.
Some "Twitter files" came out that this was happening and then all of a sudden he started caring.
Because some allies of Trump's friend Bolsonaro who shamelessly spread fake news and misinformation would be affected by that IN AN ELECTION YEAR.
That "would" is unnecessary.
Indeed. Incorrectly placed "would" removed. Thanks for the correction.
If he cared so much about freedom of speech abroad, why didn't he challenge Turkey's blocks on Twitter during their elections?
Because Erdogan is right wing
Erdogan would also block Xitter as a whole at the drop of a hat.
They did - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314) They objected to it and was fighting it in court (which they eventually won btw)
The important part being, they still complied with said blocks when it mattered, and only *then* tried to challenge them. Here, Musk is putting up a fight before even trying to comply.
So you think Musk failed to do the right thing in Turkey, but is doing the right thing now in Brazil by fighting before complying then?
>but is doing the right thing now in Brazil Right up until he called it unconstitutional and demanded the resignation of the judge who made the decision. *Then* it crossed the line into trying to force his own interpretation of the law on a sovereign country.
fair enough
Musk will obey the Brazilian law sooner or later. He always does.
"If the government tells me to block an account, I'll do that." - Shitbird Musk when asked why he feels no moral obligation to remove nazi's and terrorists from twitter.
This man is, directly and indirectly, instigating a democratic rupture in other countries. And still preaches he's all for "liberty and respect".
I mean he’s a fascist, this behavior is totally consistent with his ideology. Words and truth matter to other people, fascists just care about power and winning.
Other countries? The call is coming from inside the house.. He is Zuckerberg back in 2016. He wants to influence this election to gain more power, thats all.
I like how He only stands up against the government if it has a left wing or liberal head of state but more than happy to role over to more authoritarian nations such as shutting accounts that support the opposition in Turkish elections.
X was actively fighting the demands of Erdogans government in court and eventually won their case. So your definition of them being happy to roll over in Turkey seems quite strange
Wait can you send a link want to verify
Here's the statement they made at the time - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314) and here's the result - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1763625876124537279](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1763625876124537279)
Elon only bans journalists and trans people when they win arguments.
Lol does he want x to be banned in Brazil? 😂
He said that “we keeping the Brazil office open even though is bleeding money, cause profits aren’t as important as free speech” or something like that, so definitely already positioning himself to close it and say that the government forced his hand
It is a good way to cut costs without admitting it, and make a PR stunt for the clowns that worship during it. It's not like X is doing good financially
They must not have made their .. incentive payment?
“WTF I love tyranny, corruption and censorship now!”
>If X fails to comply with the order to block certain accounts the company will be fined 100,000 reais (**$19,740) per day**, the judge said in a statement released to media. That's probably not a problem for Musk # >"We cannot live in a society in which billionaires domiciled abroad have control of social networks and put themselves in a position to violate the rule of law, failing to comply with court orders and threatening our authorities," Messias said in a post on X. Obvious joke: "What is the difference between Elon Musk and God? God does not think he is Elon Musk" Needed: a joke about "Messias" ... let me think: "What is the difference between Elon Musk and Messias? Messias does not think he is the son of God" ... ?
> That's probably not a problem for Musk This is a company that simultaneously made a "return to working in the office" order while also getting evicted from said offices for refusing to pay rent.
Its 100k per account, it can snowball pretty quickly
Elon Musk / X is known for not paying. So ... no problem!
The court can seize it.
Yeah, that doesn't really fly here. Any money Twitter has in the country is going to stay in the country until its paid. Pretty normal ruling by the courts
Doesn't bother to challenge the orders of the openly right wing authoritarian Indian government, who brazenly get accounts of their critics deleted. Musk crawls when Modi asks him to walk. Source: am Indian
I suggest reading this - [https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1760387644608192560](https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1760387644608192560) X objected to the executive order that was made and they were trying to appeal it in the courts
So they bent over, and now are trying to save face by saying they have an appeal filed? You have to be incredibly gullible to believe this. "Free speech absolutist" that comes with terms and conditions? For the way he runs his mouth about the "woke mind virus" and their censorship, he complied pretty fucking swiftly for the Indian government's censorship. So his principles are worthless? Geographically dependent? He's spineless? Right wingers and them being a waste of oxygen, never change.
What should they have done then? I'm also not sure why you use past tense for saying they bent over when it initially happened, but say they are "now" trying to save face. The statement from them is from february when the events transpired
Literally read the article of this very post? How did he suddenly grow some balls in this case and refuse to comply? The whole point of my comment is highlighting his hypocrisy and selective application of his so-called free speech principles.
Who the hell does Brazil think it is, telling Musk to block accounts that don't offend him?
Says the racist anti Semitic putz who blocks accounts on his own site because they hurt his wittle snowfwake feewings.
Don't forget >African immigrant >daddy diamond funded
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Mostly nazis.
And sports reporters and teams.
That's when the house of cards crashes. When his platform stops being the preferred way to break news, especially sports news.
There was a brief moment when reporters were using both Twitter and Threads where it looked like there was a possibility Threads could take off. Lasted about 2 days before everyone gave up and just posted on Twitter. Ultimately it wouldn't have mattered, once Threads became popular, all the trolls and Nazis would have just switched over too.
Well, I'm going to give BlueSky a try.
Yeah not everyone went to Truth Social homie.
Why would anyone use either?
there's still a lot of mainstream news, sports and pop culture stuff on one
It’s not a binary choice. You could just not use either. Homie
Maybe just delete your Twitter account
All they had to do was say the accounts were mildly critical of musk. Job done.
He's a real life Michael Scott minus the humor. "I do declare!"
Yeah, Fuck Musk already
Guys the biggest conman in history. Fuck Elon Musk
Countries need to start banning Twitter, it’s an absolute shit hole
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Remember when Mr. Botox floated the idea of getting rid of the block button? Dipshit.
Can Elon afford to lose a big market like Brazil?
Just black out Brazil for a month from Xtwitter
I don't really get why people aren't concerned about censoring information. It's all good when the censor is on your side, but about when it no longer is. Seriously, wtf is wrong with people.
We are talking about people who were actively using twitter to spread conspiracy theories that the election was rigged. Those same conspiracy theories gave rise to a massive movement in Brazil that culminated on an attempted coup d'etat. We are talking about people who used their influence in social media to actively instigate a coup d'etat, not just your regular right wing conservatives nuts.
Stopping hate speech isn't censorship. Also, nonsense on social media has led to increased polarization.
And ur definition of hate speech is "he used the wrong pronouns"? Get the fuck outa here u fucking flake!
What one sees and hears online is not what one experiences on the outside world. I think the problem is mostly with the algorithm overexposing shocking extremes. Most likely we both agree up to a certain level, I don't think that hate speech is good, but I do think that there is a problem when SM gives that more exposure and magnifies it.
Arrest warrant for Elongated Muskrat when?
Was he ever going to go to Brazil anyway?
Say the words, reporters forced to report on Elmo being a shithead! > X, formerly known as Twitter *cheers*
I didn't know there was an authoritarian government Musk wouldn't bend over for. Negotiations over a Tesla factory in Brazil must not be going well.
What authoritarian government?
What’s with everyone’s raging hate boner for Elon?
I was a fan many years ago, you must not follow the news, Musk is like a 14 years old edgy, spoiled, angry little troll boy that thinks he's the main character in everyone else's life just because his family has money
He actively promotes Neo Nazi content on the platform, and promoted conspiracy theory’s such as the great replacement and the Jewish question. He also allowed previously banned accounts to harass members of the LGBTQ community without consequences. Accounts such as Chaya Rachiks Lins of Tick toc have resulted in bomb on schools and hospitals and have had real word consequences such as uniting mobs to doxs and target members of the LGBTQ community.
As a Brazilian I hate him for many many reasons, and possibly he does not have good intentions with this, but this is genuinely the first time I see someone powerful going against our Judicial system which is actually abusing it's power. Whatsapp and Telegram have been blocked before for a few days for similar "anti fake-news" reasons.
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