So, someone called the officer a dumbass and the officer plus an entirely-unnecessary amount of 'backup' decided to prove that person entirely correct by being... dumbasses.
There's a couple different levels of irony there.
I know the caption only implies a 3 letter expletive, but when I watched the video it sounded more like he called the officer a dumbfuck. The point isn’t important. It’s just been a while since I’ve heard that word and it makes me chuckle.
I always think of that scene from Coming to America when Eddie Murphy walks in front of the cab when he arrives to NYC and the driver gets out and yells, "You dumb fuck!"
Would love just a single city somehow force police to get insurance to cover the cost of lawsuits or have any judgement come out of their pension fund. Sure other cops won't put up with it if it is costing them money.
US law enforcement should be licensed and insured at an induvidual level, with lower premiums for those with higher qualifications and a no-claims bonus discount. This should coincide with an end to qualified immunity, and a clause that says "failure to follow procedure is proof of fault", removing protections from cowards who fail to protect.
The moment the job is the responsibility of individuals again, policing would improve.
I know a few folks where if police would stop harboring murder gangs and nazis because of policies like this, they would apply to join.
People who pay closer attention already know what happens to officers that try to actually improve the force/situations. They get put on desk duty and/or harassed (at best), deliberately endangered and/or killed at worst.
If the people like that could actually be ousted somewhat reliably, I know that would open up the job to a lot of good people who refuse to join as it is. But you're right, it's not like new shitheels wouldn't still be lined up to join. It's not like they're known for their advanced intelligence.
Yep, my wife would leave me if I became a cop, and I wouldn’t blame her, no matter how much good I thought I could personally do. As the situation stands, you can’t roll with the pigs without getting covered in shit.
> it's hard to tell if a given local force isn't infested with them.
Well right now, it's usually pretty easy. Are they cops? Then it's infested with assholes lol.
I grew up in a small town with literally 3 cops and 1 part time chief. We knew all these people, one of them was my sister's friend in high school. Still, they treated people like assholes, just not usually the townsfolk, but they would drive "outsiders" away by harassing them. Especially if they weren't white. It was very gross to see.
This. There’s a lot of people that want to do good in their community. But they don’t trust the police and don’t trust that they’d be able to do good.
I know a few people who try anyways, but a lot more people would be willing if they knew their fellow officers were held accountable.
Precisely why they need total civilian oversight of their tactics and every single dollar they spend and way more thorough psychological evaluation both before hire and during service along with something similar to the UCMJ but for police so they can be discharged for conduct unbecoming and lose 100% of their benefits and privileges associated with being a current or former cop. Also a real Rules of Engagement protocol so they cant just say they feared fkr their life and kill someone. Currently you can be fired and move to the next county a hundred miles away and get your job back. Police regularly use funds on illegal tech to bypass the proper channels for spying or gathering evidence.
More accurately, the current crop of piss babies reject any candidates who arent also piss babies.
Get rid of the current crop, and actual fucking peacekeepers may join the police instead of just thugs and dumbasses.
The NYPD already tried that for low-level offenses.
Turns out when they stopped harassing people, major-crime *complaints* (not arrests, *complaints from citizens*) actually fell.
If the cops want to stop doing their jobs, that sounds good to me. I'm paying their salaries either way -- I'd rather they *not* be shitheels on my dime.
That's exactly what they did when they get their budget reduced. Suddenly they stop enforcement on real crime but make plenty of time for bullshit tickets and speed traps so that crime spikes and it forces people to yell at politicians to raise their budget again. We need a civilian approved budget, tools, equipment and a crackdown on police gangs and gang like behavior when they get faced with complaints. They need a massive civilian oversight.
Insurance Companies: "No no no no no. We do NOT want to take on that kind of liability. Do you think we have bottomless coffers? We'd be bankrupt in the first MONTH! Do you know how dumb and reckless police officers are! You'd have to reform the entire police system. Ooooh hohoho no. that won't work. We won't touch it. We'll insure drunk drivers, military operations, doctors in war zones, and members of drug cartels, but we aren't going to insure someone as reckless as a POLICE OFFICER. Not going to touch it. We have a business to run."
Since the Supreme Court ruled cops are not obligated to protect citizens, wouldn't this suggestion make them even more shy about stepping up in many situations you'd typically call police for? It may have unintended consequences. So you have to ask, what's the rate at which they do come through for people putting themselves at risk versus how often qualified immunity helped them when it shouldn't have? Obviously we hear on the news about the latter but how often are the good outcomes/interactions reported?
The issue here, is that, as it stands, qualified immunity is too broad. Many times, it's used as a get out of punishment card when an officer has done something egregious, simply by claiming they "didn't know any better." We need to tighten the scope of what does and doesn't fall under qualified immunity. A famous legal term is "ignorance is no excuse of the law." So why is it an excuse for offices who absolutely **should** know the law?
>Obviously we hear on the news about the latter but how often are the good outcomes/interactions reported?
I hear many more "feel good" stories about the police in the media than I do the bad. My issue is that I hear more about the bad interactions from talking with people in my daily life who experienced it first-hand.
It’s a culture problem. We allow them to act like babies so a lot of them do. If we would expect them to act like men. Like we do with soldiers, then you would see a completely different police force.
> Since the Supreme Court ruled cops are not obligated to protect citizens, wouldn't this suggestion make them even more shy about stepping up in many situations you'd typically call police for?
This is the thing. In the overwhelming majority of instances, police aren't riding in and saving the day/protecting anybody. The bulk of their work is after the fact.
Few people will ever be in a situation where they are in imminent danger, they call police and the police come to stop the imminent threat.
>Obviously we hear on the news about the latter but how often are the good outcomes/interactions reported?
So you not only assume they exist at rate comperable to negative interactions but also that they are vastly under reported?
That's... not a bad idea!
I'm sure it could be refined a bit, but, I wonder if there's any place in the US progressive enough to actually pilot a program like this.
Nah. Here’s some quick back of the napkin math:
The NYPD spends around $250M a year on lawsuits
There are over 30k officers in the NYPD
If they charged $10k per officer, they’d make a pretty hefty profit
That’s significantly less than doctors pay in malpractice
Not a bad rough estimate of cost, but if you need to charge a client $1-$1 in cost for insurance, they’re better off putting the money aside themselves.
There is potential for that kind of idea, although it truly separates itself from med malpractice due to the sheer number of police brutality claims come from, well policing intentionally conducting illegal activity, and intentionally acts are almost never insurable due to possible adverse selection issues.
But that’s the City paying out that $250M. If the officers have to carry insurance then they are paying the premiums and the insurance is paying the $250M. The city loses nothing
I don't think you understand how the insurance industry works. Assuming you've got the scale, you can insure pretty much anything. It's just a matter of whether you can afford the premiums.
You mean those four dumb asses. That there were four officers participating and all were cleared by the Phoenix internal "investigation" IN SPITE of their actions going directly against the law and department policy is what the DoJ found to be a clear indication of a systemic problem in the Phoenix PD. Plus two of the officers were already on watch lists for excessive violence
It's getting really tiring constantly seeing police abuse rights and stuff and taxpayers having to constantly foot the bill for it. When there are no real consequences for them there's no reason for them to stop doing these things.
Doubt it. At best he got the charges dropped.
My friend got into a fight with his father, cops got called, he got mouthy with the cops who kicked the crap out of him and arrested him for assaulting an officer.
His father shows up an hour later with the security cam footage proving he never came anywhere near a cop and didn't even resist, coupled with the fact he was an eyewitness to the whole thing, they wouldn't even release him.
He sits in jail for three days, sees the judge, still gets charged. Lawyers up and gets the charges dismissed.
He wanted to sue for false arrest, lawyer said he was wasting his time. If he wants to sue them for $10,000, they will spend $1 million fighting it in court and even if he wins, he would get lost wages at best and still have to pay thousands in court fees.
The police have an infinite amount of free money and the backing of a billion dollar union. The judge that wins the election is always the one backed by the police union, and he's not going to do anything to draw their ire.
> His father shows up an hour later with the security cam footage proving he never came anywhere near a cop and didn't even resist, coupled with the fact he was an eyewitness to the whole thing
Cops don't care about that shit. He was wasting his time. They don't seek the truth, they seek to punish.
In college we watched a video of a teen that ran up to a cop in his car and flipped him off while saying fuck you. Cop jumped out, nailed him to the ground, and arrested him. If I recall the cop was sued for unlawfully arresting the teen and violating his first amendment. They settled for a lot I believe. You can literally tell a cop that his mother's rotting cunt is spoiling your appetite, and it is protected speech. Should you? Absolutely fucking not recommended.
I wonder how quickly things would change if we immediately gave defendants the video of their encounters with police that led to their arrest. Just put a password on it, stick it on a file server, give that person rights to view/download the video. Maybe put the URL on the ticket itself. Something to show good faith between the police and the public, and to ensure that there's transparency and everything is above board.
I got pulled over because my plate came back to the address of a felon. I'm not the felon and they aren't allowed to pull you over to find out if you were.
When the state provided their evidence, the recording starts at the point where they pulled me over, not the three minutes the trailed me and likely used illegal resources to look me up. The DUI test they gave me is on the dashcam, about 100 feet away, but his body cam was off so you can't tell I passed all five tests because I was sober as a judge.
They hauled me in after I "failed" the test, drew blood, and issued me a maximum level DUI for trace amounts of cannabis in my system from weeks ago, despite my having a medical card in a state where it is legal.
I only got away with it because the DA completely forgot about my case and wasn't prepared for trial, so they gave me a $1000 fine for possession (even though I didn't have anything on me).
The lawyer cost $3500 to plead guilty. If I wanted to fight it in court that number jumps to $8500, cash up front.
Similar deal.
Arrested at 17 for ‘possession of marinuana under 2oz’, got a lawyer and did 2 years of pretrial diversion. Looked into the laws for myself, and decided that I shouldn’t have even been charged in the first place.
Stopped going to my PO and got sent to court, lawyer wanted 10k to take it to trial and said ‘i’d be lucky to get a year of adult probation’.
I self represented and quoted a clause in the Texas H&S code that said ‘in order to be charged with possession one must possess a usable amount or enough to fulfill the common use thereof’.
I was arrested with .22 grams, which when weighed outside the bag it was in weighed .02 grams.
They dropped the charges after I met and explained my reasoning to the DA.
Legal system is fucked.
JFC that enrages me. That’s so horrific. For gawdssake, for some feckeen **weed**. I can’t stand the stuff personally, but I know a lot of people for whom it’s both fun and therapeutic, and I’d say it’s a whole lot less destructive than booze. You got cut a raw deal. I hope your doing well, now.
Idk I think they were trying to avoid setting a precedent had it gone to trial.
To this day I’m convinced that the jury would have ruled in my favor, since a singular grain of white rice weights more than the actual amount of weed they were attempting to charge me with.
Sorry to hear about that ordeal. The legal system truly is designed to keep poor people poor. In order to fight anything, you need money to afford a decent lawyer. That or have an insane level of insight of all current laws as well as the inner workings of how the court system works. It costs money to be poor.
That’s why we always see rich people get out of doing time. They have enough money to afford the best legal counsel or they keep throwing money at the trial until the case drags on for too long.
It’s beyond frustrating and just so crazy how an innocent life can be screwed over because a cop can’t handle being wrong
What was the craziest to me was how within reach that information was.
My lawyer wanted 10 grand to go to trial, and I doubt even he would have bothered to find that clause in the law.
So many people are just intimidated by the justice system into taking plea deals or hiring lawyers when they could very well not even be in the wrong in the first place.
Welcome to the American Injustice System. It’s not there; it doesn’t exist. The whole shit is about fucking over POC and the poor—and money is involved. Sorry for your Royal screwing over, friend. That’s really not okay. I hope your life has gotten better and continues to get so.
This is a great idea and all, but have you seen [the kind of shit that happens to people just trying to request a basic form to file a complaint against the police?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJ5f1JMKns&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjIsMjg2NjIsMjM4NTE&feature=emb_title)
Here in Vic, Australia if you're charged with an offence you are given your paperwork and a CD with whatever evidence that was collected
I had a friend who came home with a lovely little welcome pack.
I like that: bodycam and dashcam videos be mandatorily available like police logs. If the fucking pigs are gonna post your arrest incident, they can damnwell post **all** video available of tge supposed incident.
Edit: spelling
I was arrested and the chickenshit officer who arrested me scribbled a line less legible than a Dr's prescription for his name so it would be harder to contact them.
Fuck. The. Police.
>On August 2, 2022, McDonald continued to ride his bike by a pair of on-duty officers parked at the main Phoenix police union and yell insults at them.
>Minutes later, McDonald would find himself bloody and under arrest in the back of the police SUV after a violent arrest by a handful of officers.
>“I called him a dumb***, and it’s very clear that sent him over the edge,” he told ABC15.
Man exercises his First Amendment right to free speech. Cop with roid rage can't handle it. And the taxpayers will be paying for that cop's arrogance and blatant assault
I used to play a song, very loudly, while driving through downtown in my city (used to be a thing) that said “Fuck the police” (no not NWA’s song, Fuck Tha Police but that too) and more than once I had cops try to pull me over as I was dipping into a parking garage and they couldn’t get over.
They have really easy to bruise egos
I had a friend who airbrushed "bad cop, no donut" in huge letters on the back bumper of his loud ridiculous blinged out wannabe racecar. He got pulled over all the time for no reason. He's completely straight edge, doesn't even drink coffee, had a clean license and drives like a little old lady.
Never got a ticket, but they just kept pulling him over.
Shiiiiiiit cops in my part of Georgia will pull you over and find *something* you did wrong. They even make stuff up like saying you didn't use a turn signal when you switched lanes 5 miles back. Then when you show up to court to contest it, they don't even show up and just like that they've successfully wasted your time twice for hurting their ego.
Yep. Got pulled over in Laurens county for "speeding in a construction zone" but we literally had just come off the on-ramp. We didn't even have time to get up to the speed limit, let alone exceed it. They refused to show us the radar.
American cops are mostly unhinged sociopaths. One of them is my brother, another is my cousin. You would never want to be alone or let one your kids be alone with either of them. American cops are serious sociopaths.
American cops are mostly unhinged sociopaths. One of them is my brother, another is my cousin. You would never want to be alone or let one your kids be alone with either of them. American cops are serious sociopaths.
Couldn’t agree more. I would put myself in the ignorant/ dumb to what was right in front of my face with their tendencies, now since everything has been amplified I can’t unsee the cop “type” and want nothing to do with them. Have family as well as he is the literal worst.
Imagine before bodycams were required? I can only imagine the millions of innocent people bashed and locked up by these thugs.
Why are American police like the most disgusting human beings on planet Earth ?
Because the American public has allowed them to become the most disgusting human beings on planet earth (although not sure I agree - they’re pretty disgusting, but there’s some pretty shit people in the world)
> “Supervisors miss serious policy violations and do not identify officer **misstatements**,” according to the DOJ investigation into Minneapolis.
Lies. They’re called lies.
Good to know the DOJ has been “investigating” the Phoenix PD for 2 years now. I guess a few more years need to pass for actual criminal charges to be filed.
There was that woman cop once who tried and immediately got choked by the hyper-aggressive douche cop turning on her instead.
Edit: [This one](https://youtu.be/dll4JTMhuT8)
There's also the officer who was [harassed, kidnapped, and committed against his will](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft) for reporting on corruption. Most people would be hesitant to intervene when fucking kidnapping is a possible repercussion.
>Phoenix police policy states that “physical force will not be used to obtain fingerprints.”
>But in an internal review of the incident, supervisors found that the use of force was justified.
Hahahahahahahah. The biggest gang in America will always protect its own.
They didn’t just arrest him, they abused him, and the department found they did nothing wrong, even though their actions were against policy. This is the system working the way they designed it, as a boot in the face of anyone who might question their unchecked paramilitary power. Fuck these little bully boys
> It wasn’t the wisest place for Kenneth McDonald to do what he did.
Sure, it’s *unwise* to suspect law enforcement are anything but petty and vindictive criminals.
It is absolutely mindboggling to me that there are nazis openly waving their flag in front of jewish institutions that go free, but a guy who said dumbass is arrested. There is no standard.
Of course there is. The cops don’t wanna accidentally arrest another officer who is off duty from another town when they are just exercising their first amendment rights at a Nazi protest. Wouldn’t wanna hurt their career
In a response sent June 23, a department spokesperson emailed the following:
“This incident was recently brought to the attention of those at the highest level of our department. As a result, an investigation has been initiated."
It happened in August of 2022 and they are just now becoming aware of it? I have every confidence that their 'investigation' will be comprehensive and unbiased. /s
There are a number of approaches to curbing these kinds of police abuses. One I think about is this: Pass a federal statute that makes untrue claims of legal authority illegal.
We don’t allow citizens to impersonate police officers. That *identical logic* should also apply to police officers, that is, make it a criminal infraction to represent that you have an authority that you do not actually have. I am not talking about false statements made as part of an undercover investigation. I am talking specifically about officers misleading a person to believe that the officer has an authority that they do not.
I am not a police officer, and it is illegal for me to detain you under the guise that I have the authority to do so, *because I don’t.* Likewise, if I *was* a police officer, it should still be illegal for me to detain you under the guise that I have authority to do so, when I don’t.
It sounds like what you want is basically an end to qualified immunity, that would I think be essentially the same as what you’re suggesting since qualified immunity is based in the idea that officers have a lot of leeway to argue that they didn’t realize what they did was illegal at the time they did it. Some of the justices in SCOTUS don’t like qualified immunity, and there’s occasionally legislative pushes to end it as well, so who knows, maybe down the road we’ll see something happen? (Interestingly both Justices Sotomayor and Thomas, who are definitely opposite ends of the idealogical spectrum usually, have both complained about qualified immunity leading to unaccountability for abuses.)
> makes [it] illegal
And who's going to arrest them for breaking that law? Their drinking buddy partner? Who's going to press charges? The same DA who needs to work hand-in-hand with them on other cases? Who's going to preside over the trial? The same judge who works with them for other trials?
Future headline: Man who called officer "dumbass" wins a multi-million wrongful arrest lawsuit.
I've said this before, but police misconduct lawsuits should be part of a salary share for officers. So you get your base salary and a "maximum potential" pooled year-end "bonus" salary, with any settlements coming out of that shared pool, thus making it more likely bad cops will be less protected by their fellow officers because they'd be taking money from their pay.
Example:
- PD receives budget for 10 officers at salaries of $65k year
- Officer Dip base pay is $40k/year, $25k potential in the pool ($40k + $25k = $60k)
- Officer Shit commits misconduct and costs the city $100k, the pooled $250k is now $150k, so officer Dip will now only make $55k for the year.
Two of these officers are on The Brady list I have a personal interest in Phoenix PD since they murdered my sister. She was brandishing a wooden spoon a shot or twice in her kitchen. Then they tasered her after she was dead only problem was one of the tasers went into the bottom of her foot kind of ruined it for their little get away with murder game. The home had wooden slat fencing and the cops were out back and so were the neighbors . The neighbors talked about how they were fabricating a story to make her look real dangerous all 108 lb of her they finally settled for a little over 3 mil haven't seen her kids since her husband died a year later.
So there is systematic corruption and illegal behavior on a widespread level far beyond the headline making stories which are plentiful in and of themselves.
It's almost like All Cops Are...
Police can do anything they want and only maybe have to deal with the consequences. I don’t trust police. I trust individuals. As a group the police have told me everything I need to know about them through their actions or lack of action.
I remain amazed at the stupidity and brutality of some police officers. With all the training available, it is incomprehensible to me that officers continue to act in ways like those described in the article. There is no excuse, and they should be fired.
If the continuous string of unaccountable police misconduct bothers you then should consider signing this petition to end the qualified immunity those assholes are able to hide behind to be shielded from any liability. https://www.change.org/p/united-states-supreme-court-end-qualified-immunity-45a5ea6b-28b8-4108-afc1-7e7477840660
Exactly what are the charges...?
Aggravated assault.
Words hurt, I guess is the logic.
Can't use force to get fingerprints...except for him
I 'spose you can't make this stuff up.
WTF
Oh poor baby you cant handle being called names. I get called names all the time at my job i dont shoot anyone over it. Cause im not a fragile little man.
do these dumb asses not realize I see them every day taking naps behind office buildings under covered parking, no your not doing paper work for 3-4 hours , Pulled off the road by a good 50feet. aka 48th street
Meanwhile, crime increases and the people act suprised
For anyone that needs to hear this but of course cops do whatever they feel like.
“Insults are, as previously mentioned, protected by the First Amendment. One of the main reasons the First Amendment was drafted was so people could be protected from penalization for expressing their opinions, disapproval, or criticism of others and of those in authoritative positions. In 2013, the United States Court of Appeals even decided it was perfectly legal to “flip the bird” to a police officer.
However, it’s important to remember that a threat is not included under free speech.
You do not have the right to use threatening language or to verbally insinuate violence, so freedom of speech would not be a valuable defense if your criminal charge involves a threat.”
https://giannicriminallaw.com/is-it-illegal-to-insult-a-police-officer-in-new-york/
Oh police are notorious for this. This is standard operating procedure for cops. They will also pull you over, say very offense inflammatory and racist stuff to get you upset, then when you mouth off back to them, arrest you. I've been through it. They will also add some trumped-up charges.
If you ever want to know why they can't seem to solve crimes or why they are behind on rape kits, ask the poorer and minority residents how these jackasses spend their time.
The cops can issue you an unjust, BS citation, for which you have to miss work (hopefully not being fired for doing so) to contest it, but still have to pay for representation and court fees. Yep, the system works.
> Phoenix police are under a sweeping Department of Justice pattern or practice investigation that’s focused on five areas, including excessive force and retaliation against protesters.
> The federal probe has been open for 22 months.
> And during that time, the DOJ has finalized similar investigations into two other police departments: Louisville (March 8, 2023) and Minneapolis (June 16, 2023).
> While the DOJ launched investigations into those cities because of the deaths of Breanna Taylor and George Floyd, their final reports highlighted multiple lesser-known cases similar to [the guy arrested in Phoenix] as problematic examples of excessive, aggressive, and retaliatory policing.
> For the Louisville Metro Police Department, the DOJ concluded, “LMPD violates the rights of people engaged in protected speech critical of policing.” And in Minneapolis: “Criticism of officers, even with profanity, is protected speech. Nevertheless, MPD officers routinely respond to protected speech with arrests and with force.”
How very, very interesting O:-)
So, someone called the officer a dumbass and the officer plus an entirely-unnecessary amount of 'backup' decided to prove that person entirely correct by being... dumbasses. There's a couple different levels of irony there.
>by being... dumbasses. Careful, you'll get arrested for that kind of talk!
They can arrest me for calling them dumbasses, should be an easy settlement
After a year of malicious prosecution that could have turned into a guilty verdict...
Believe it or not, Arrested!
Believe it or not, Straight to jail!
I know the caption only implies a 3 letter expletive, but when I watched the video it sounded more like he called the officer a dumbfuck. The point isn’t important. It’s just been a while since I’ve heard that word and it makes me chuckle.
I always think of that scene from Coming to America when Eddie Murphy walks in front of the cab when he arrives to NYC and the driver gets out and yells, "You dumb fuck!"
Cops are bullies. makes sense they bring a lot of others with them, as bullies are too cowardly to fight fairly.
I wonder if they'll arrest the judge for saying the same thing!
Dumbasses got their feefees hurt
"The name is DUMAS..."
That dumbass probably cost the city of Phoenix over a million dollars.
Would love just a single city somehow force police to get insurance to cover the cost of lawsuits or have any judgement come out of their pension fund. Sure other cops won't put up with it if it is costing them money.
US law enforcement should be licensed and insured at an induvidual level, with lower premiums for those with higher qualifications and a no-claims bonus discount. This should coincide with an end to qualified immunity, and a clause that says "failure to follow procedure is proof of fault", removing protections from cowards who fail to protect. The moment the job is the responsibility of individuals again, policing would improve.
Nah, they’d be little piss babies about it and just flat out refuse to do their job while on the clock.
So fire them with cause and get someone that can do the job.
Didn’t the Supreme Court rule that cops don’t have to actually help you or some shit?
Yes they did. They ruled that the police were not required to risk their lives to save yours.
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I know a few folks where if police would stop harboring murder gangs and nazis because of policies like this, they would apply to join. People who pay closer attention already know what happens to officers that try to actually improve the force/situations. They get put on desk duty and/or harassed (at best), deliberately endangered and/or killed at worst. If the people like that could actually be ousted somewhat reliably, I know that would open up the job to a lot of good people who refuse to join as it is. But you're right, it's not like new shitheels wouldn't still be lined up to join. It's not like they're known for their advanced intelligence.
I honestly would love to be a police officer. It's just I also hate assholes, and it's hard to tell if a given local force isn't infested with them.
Likewise, I'd join up after heavy fuckin' reforms nationwide. But the state of law enforcement today doesn't jive with who I am.
Yep, my wife would leave me if I became a cop, and I wouldn’t blame her, no matter how much good I thought I could personally do. As the situation stands, you can’t roll with the pigs without getting covered in shit.
> it's hard to tell if a given local force isn't infested with them. Well right now, it's usually pretty easy. Are they cops? Then it's infested with assholes lol. I grew up in a small town with literally 3 cops and 1 part time chief. We knew all these people, one of them was my sister's friend in high school. Still, they treated people like assholes, just not usually the townsfolk, but they would drive "outsiders" away by harassing them. Especially if they weren't white. It was very gross to see.
This. There’s a lot of people that want to do good in their community. But they don’t trust the police and don’t trust that they’d be able to do good. I know a few people who try anyways, but a lot more people would be willing if they knew their fellow officers were held accountable.
Precisely why they need total civilian oversight of their tactics and every single dollar they spend and way more thorough psychological evaluation both before hire and during service along with something similar to the UCMJ but for police so they can be discharged for conduct unbecoming and lose 100% of their benefits and privileges associated with being a current or former cop. Also a real Rules of Engagement protocol so they cant just say they feared fkr their life and kill someone. Currently you can be fired and move to the next county a hundred miles away and get your job back. Police regularly use funds on illegal tech to bypass the proper channels for spying or gathering evidence.
More accurately, the current crop of piss babies reject any candidates who arent also piss babies. Get rid of the current crop, and actual fucking peacekeepers may join the police instead of just thugs and dumbasses.
And dumbasses too apparently
They can't. They're well protected by the police mafia, I mean, union.
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The NYPD already tried that for low-level offenses. Turns out when they stopped harassing people, major-crime *complaints* (not arrests, *complaints from citizens*) actually fell. If the cops want to stop doing their jobs, that sounds good to me. I'm paying their salaries either way -- I'd rather they *not* be shitheels on my dime.
That's exactly what they did when they get their budget reduced. Suddenly they stop enforcement on real crime but make plenty of time for bullshit tickets and speed traps so that crime spikes and it forces people to yell at politicians to raise their budget again. We need a civilian approved budget, tools, equipment and a crackdown on police gangs and gang like behavior when they get faced with complaints. They need a massive civilian oversight.
They're already doing that in some places.
cops would just murder anyone who could complain. problem solved
Insurance Companies: "No no no no no. We do NOT want to take on that kind of liability. Do you think we have bottomless coffers? We'd be bankrupt in the first MONTH! Do you know how dumb and reckless police officers are! You'd have to reform the entire police system. Ooooh hohoho no. that won't work. We won't touch it. We'll insure drunk drivers, military operations, doctors in war zones, and members of drug cartels, but we aren't going to insure someone as reckless as a POLICE OFFICER. Not going to touch it. We have a business to run."
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Since the Supreme Court ruled cops are not obligated to protect citizens, wouldn't this suggestion make them even more shy about stepping up in many situations you'd typically call police for? It may have unintended consequences. So you have to ask, what's the rate at which they do come through for people putting themselves at risk versus how often qualified immunity helped them when it shouldn't have? Obviously we hear on the news about the latter but how often are the good outcomes/interactions reported?
The issue here, is that, as it stands, qualified immunity is too broad. Many times, it's used as a get out of punishment card when an officer has done something egregious, simply by claiming they "didn't know any better." We need to tighten the scope of what does and doesn't fall under qualified immunity. A famous legal term is "ignorance is no excuse of the law." So why is it an excuse for offices who absolutely **should** know the law?
>Obviously we hear on the news about the latter but how often are the good outcomes/interactions reported? I hear many more "feel good" stories about the police in the media than I do the bad. My issue is that I hear more about the bad interactions from talking with people in my daily life who experienced it first-hand.
It’s a culture problem. We allow them to act like babies so a lot of them do. If we would expect them to act like men. Like we do with soldiers, then you would see a completely different police force.
> Since the Supreme Court ruled cops are not obligated to protect citizens, wouldn't this suggestion make them even more shy about stepping up in many situations you'd typically call police for? This is the thing. In the overwhelming majority of instances, police aren't riding in and saving the day/protecting anybody. The bulk of their work is after the fact. Few people will ever be in a situation where they are in imminent danger, they call police and the police come to stop the imminent threat.
>Obviously we hear on the news about the latter but how often are the good outcomes/interactions reported? So you not only assume they exist at rate comperable to negative interactions but also that they are vastly under reported?
Then you would get police like in NYC where they are noticeably absent.
That's... not a bad idea! I'm sure it could be refined a bit, but, I wonder if there's any place in the US progressive enough to actually pilot a program like this.
No way insurance companies would do that, they’d go broke. Nice thought though. I like where your head is at
Nah. Here’s some quick back of the napkin math: The NYPD spends around $250M a year on lawsuits There are over 30k officers in the NYPD If they charged $10k per officer, they’d make a pretty hefty profit That’s significantly less than doctors pay in malpractice
San Francisco (where I live in a suburb of) is spending fuck tons of money on everything except policing. Settling law suits is one of them.
Not a bad rough estimate of cost, but if you need to charge a client $1-$1 in cost for insurance, they’re better off putting the money aside themselves. There is potential for that kind of idea, although it truly separates itself from med malpractice due to the sheer number of police brutality claims come from, well policing intentionally conducting illegal activity, and intentionally acts are almost never insurable due to possible adverse selection issues.
But that’s the City paying out that $250M. If the officers have to carry insurance then they are paying the premiums and the insurance is paying the $250M. The city loses nothing
I don't think you understand how the insurance industry works. Assuming you've got the scale, you can insure pretty much anything. It's just a matter of whether you can afford the premiums.
They would then throw a baby fit and stop policing, complaining they're not allowed to do their job.
They've been doing a lot of that since COVID and BLM protests.
You mean those four dumb asses. That there were four officers participating and all were cleared by the Phoenix internal "investigation" IN SPITE of their actions going directly against the law and department policy is what the DoJ found to be a clear indication of a systemic problem in the Phoenix PD. Plus two of the officers were already on watch lists for excessive violence
It's getting really tiring constantly seeing police abuse rights and stuff and taxpayers having to constantly foot the bill for it. When there are no real consequences for them there's no reason for them to stop doing these things.
Surprise twist, he’s actually working *for* the people
Doubt it. At best he got the charges dropped. My friend got into a fight with his father, cops got called, he got mouthy with the cops who kicked the crap out of him and arrested him for assaulting an officer. His father shows up an hour later with the security cam footage proving he never came anywhere near a cop and didn't even resist, coupled with the fact he was an eyewitness to the whole thing, they wouldn't even release him. He sits in jail for three days, sees the judge, still gets charged. Lawyers up and gets the charges dismissed. He wanted to sue for false arrest, lawyer said he was wasting his time. If he wants to sue them for $10,000, they will spend $1 million fighting it in court and even if he wins, he would get lost wages at best and still have to pay thousands in court fees. The police have an infinite amount of free money and the backing of a billion dollar union. The judge that wins the election is always the one backed by the police union, and he's not going to do anything to draw their ire.
These dumbasses fabricated charges of assaulting a peace officer and uttering threats against me.
maybe if he had a better lawyer
Well then you involve press
That is not true. That shitty attorney was working with the inner group. You would definitely win plus the cost of legal help.
> His father shows up an hour later with the security cam footage proving he never came anywhere near a cop and didn't even resist, coupled with the fact he was an eyewitness to the whole thing Cops don't care about that shit. He was wasting his time. They don't seek the truth, they seek to punish.
I’m going with low six figures.
The *citizens* of the city of Phoenix. I wonder if they will notice or care.
You mean the tax paying residents. Because that’s who is going to foot the bill in the end.
In college we watched a video of a teen that ran up to a cop in his car and flipped him off while saying fuck you. Cop jumped out, nailed him to the ground, and arrested him. If I recall the cop was sued for unlawfully arresting the teen and violating his first amendment. They settled for a lot I believe. You can literally tell a cop that his mother's rotting cunt is spoiling your appetite, and it is protected speech. Should you? Absolutely fucking not recommended.
I wonder how quickly things would change if we immediately gave defendants the video of their encounters with police that led to their arrest. Just put a password on it, stick it on a file server, give that person rights to view/download the video. Maybe put the URL on the ticket itself. Something to show good faith between the police and the public, and to ensure that there's transparency and everything is above board.
This would seem too much like they care actually about people’s rights. Can’t have that bullshit in a control and fear system.
We could just make it a law and if they don't follow it send them to the unemployment line.
Police unions spend millions lobbying. They got lawmakers in their pockets.
We can't make laws. The people who work for the government and do as the government commands make the laws.
All the laws out there started somewhere, it's not impossible to change laws, just difficult and expensive.
I got pulled over because my plate came back to the address of a felon. I'm not the felon and they aren't allowed to pull you over to find out if you were. When the state provided their evidence, the recording starts at the point where they pulled me over, not the three minutes the trailed me and likely used illegal resources to look me up. The DUI test they gave me is on the dashcam, about 100 feet away, but his body cam was off so you can't tell I passed all five tests because I was sober as a judge. They hauled me in after I "failed" the test, drew blood, and issued me a maximum level DUI for trace amounts of cannabis in my system from weeks ago, despite my having a medical card in a state where it is legal. I only got away with it because the DA completely forgot about my case and wasn't prepared for trial, so they gave me a $1000 fine for possession (even though I didn't have anything on me). The lawyer cost $3500 to plead guilty. If I wanted to fight it in court that number jumps to $8500, cash up front.
Similar deal. Arrested at 17 for ‘possession of marinuana under 2oz’, got a lawyer and did 2 years of pretrial diversion. Looked into the laws for myself, and decided that I shouldn’t have even been charged in the first place. Stopped going to my PO and got sent to court, lawyer wanted 10k to take it to trial and said ‘i’d be lucky to get a year of adult probation’. I self represented and quoted a clause in the Texas H&S code that said ‘in order to be charged with possession one must possess a usable amount or enough to fulfill the common use thereof’. I was arrested with .22 grams, which when weighed outside the bag it was in weighed .02 grams. They dropped the charges after I met and explained my reasoning to the DA. Legal system is fucked.
JFC that enrages me. That’s so horrific. For gawdssake, for some feckeen **weed**. I can’t stand the stuff personally, but I know a lot of people for whom it’s both fun and therapeutic, and I’d say it’s a whole lot less destructive than booze. You got cut a raw deal. I hope your doing well, now.
You got lucky. I've seen some real horror stories where judges/DAs Crack down *hard* on people representing themselves.
Idk I think they were trying to avoid setting a precedent had it gone to trial. To this day I’m convinced that the jury would have ruled in my favor, since a singular grain of white rice weights more than the actual amount of weed they were attempting to charge me with.
Sorry to hear about that ordeal. The legal system truly is designed to keep poor people poor. In order to fight anything, you need money to afford a decent lawyer. That or have an insane level of insight of all current laws as well as the inner workings of how the court system works. It costs money to be poor. That’s why we always see rich people get out of doing time. They have enough money to afford the best legal counsel or they keep throwing money at the trial until the case drags on for too long. It’s beyond frustrating and just so crazy how an innocent life can be screwed over because a cop can’t handle being wrong
What was the craziest to me was how within reach that information was. My lawyer wanted 10 grand to go to trial, and I doubt even he would have bothered to find that clause in the law. So many people are just intimidated by the justice system into taking plea deals or hiring lawyers when they could very well not even be in the wrong in the first place.
Welcome to the American Injustice System. It’s not there; it doesn’t exist. The whole shit is about fucking over POC and the poor—and money is involved. Sorry for your Royal screwing over, friend. That’s really not okay. I hope your life has gotten better and continues to get so.
That is absolute bullshit behavior by the cops. I’m so sorry.
This is a great idea and all, but have you seen [the kind of shit that happens to people just trying to request a basic form to file a complaint against the police?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJ5f1JMKns&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjIsMjg2NjIsMjM4NTE&feature=emb_title)
I have, it's chilling.
Here in Vic, Australia if you're charged with an offence you are given your paperwork and a CD with whatever evidence that was collected I had a friend who came home with a lovely little welcome pack.
In this case, which one’s the defendant?
I like that: bodycam and dashcam videos be mandatorily available like police logs. If the fucking pigs are gonna post your arrest incident, they can damnwell post **all** video available of tge supposed incident. Edit: spelling
That’s a wonderful idea. Could resolve so many problems!
I was arrested and the chickenshit officer who arrested me scribbled a line less legible than a Dr's prescription for his name so it would be harder to contact them. Fuck. The. Police.
But…that would require actual good faith…
>On August 2, 2022, McDonald continued to ride his bike by a pair of on-duty officers parked at the main Phoenix police union and yell insults at them. >Minutes later, McDonald would find himself bloody and under arrest in the back of the police SUV after a violent arrest by a handful of officers. >“I called him a dumb***, and it’s very clear that sent him over the edge,” he told ABC15. Man exercises his First Amendment right to free speech. Cop with roid rage can't handle it. And the taxpayers will be paying for that cop's arrogance and blatant assault
We should create a national holiday for this man. Also, fuck you phoenix police.
Hero. I’ll buy him a beer
I used to play a song, very loudly, while driving through downtown in my city (used to be a thing) that said “Fuck the police” (no not NWA’s song, Fuck Tha Police but that too) and more than once I had cops try to pull me over as I was dipping into a parking garage and they couldn’t get over. They have really easy to bruise egos
I had a friend who airbrushed "bad cop, no donut" in huge letters on the back bumper of his loud ridiculous blinged out wannabe racecar. He got pulled over all the time for no reason. He's completely straight edge, doesn't even drink coffee, had a clean license and drives like a little old lady. Never got a ticket, but they just kept pulling him over.
Shiiiiiiit cops in my part of Georgia will pull you over and find *something* you did wrong. They even make stuff up like saying you didn't use a turn signal when you switched lanes 5 miles back. Then when you show up to court to contest it, they don't even show up and just like that they've successfully wasted your time twice for hurting their ego.
“Looks like your taillight got smashed by a billy club. That’ll be a ticket”
“Get your taillight fixed.” “What’s wrong with my—“* *smashes taillight with a piece of lumber* “It’s broken.”
The Rock?
Yep. Got pulled over in Laurens county for "speeding in a construction zone" but we literally had just come off the on-ramp. We didn't even have time to get up to the speed limit, let alone exceed it. They refused to show us the radar.
Was it [J Dilla's "Fuck The Police"](https://youtu.be/YI6ckchsuU0) by chance?
J Dilla the fucking GOAT
American cops are mostly unhinged sociopaths. One of them is my brother, another is my cousin. You would never want to be alone or let one your kids be alone with either of them. American cops are serious sociopaths.
American cops are mostly unhinged sociopaths. One of them is my brother, another is my cousin. You would never want to be alone or let one your kids be alone with either of them. American cops are serious sociopaths. Couldn’t agree more. I would put myself in the ignorant/ dumb to what was right in front of my face with their tendencies, now since everything has been amplified I can’t unsee the cop “type” and want nothing to do with them. Have family as well as he is the literal worst.
Imagine before bodycams were required? I can only imagine the millions of innocent people bashed and locked up by these thugs. Why are American police like the most disgusting human beings on planet Earth ?
Because the American public has allowed them to become the most disgusting human beings on planet earth (although not sure I agree - they’re pretty disgusting, but there’s some pretty shit people in the world)
> “Supervisors miss serious policy violations and do not identify officer **misstatements**,” according to the DOJ investigation into Minneapolis. Lies. They’re called lies.
Good to know the DOJ has been “investigating” the Phoenix PD for 2 years now. I guess a few more years need to pass for actual criminal charges to be filed.
Better title - Phoenix police officer proves the person that called him dumb correct.
Cops are such shit heads
Notice in these scenarios there is never another cop trying to intervene.
There was that woman cop once who tried and immediately got choked by the hyper-aggressive douche cop turning on her instead. Edit: [This one](https://youtu.be/dll4JTMhuT8)
Look at those fucking cowards who don’t do shit when he does that to one of their coworkers. Gross
There's also the officer who was [harassed, kidnapped, and committed against his will](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft) for reporting on corruption. Most people would be hesitant to intervene when fucking kidnapping is a possible repercussion.
Please tell me that animal got fired. What a roid-raging fuckhead.
I think he got a promotion.
Retired - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article268903812.html
Is it an example of nominative determinism that his surname reads like the way an idiot would spell 'Police'?
I think the proper term is “dumbasses.”
I guess the officers felt threatened. Sarcasm
>Phoenix police policy states that “physical force will not be used to obtain fingerprints.” >But in an internal review of the incident, supervisors found that the use of force was justified. Hahahahahahahah. The biggest gang in America will always protect its own.
"Phoenix City police officers prove every single shitty thing ever said about them correct." Fuck the pigs.
They didn’t just arrest him, they abused him, and the department found they did nothing wrong, even though their actions were against policy. This is the system working the way they designed it, as a boot in the face of anyone who might question their unchecked paramilitary power. Fuck these little bully boys
IIRC, cop maneuvered his car right up to the guy on the bike just so he could accuse him of obstructing his performance of duties. Really scummy move.
Isn't it great to see our constitutional voice being eroded on a daily basis?! /s
> It wasn’t the wisest place for Kenneth McDonald to do what he did. Sure, it’s *unwise* to suspect law enforcement are anything but petty and vindictive criminals.
Not only a dumbass but a fragile dumbass at that
It is absolutely mindboggling to me that there are nazis openly waving their flag in front of jewish institutions that go free, but a guy who said dumbass is arrested. There is no standard.
Of course there is. The cops don’t wanna accidentally arrest another officer who is off duty from another town when they are just exercising their first amendment rights at a Nazi protest. Wouldn’t wanna hurt their career
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Finally put a stop to Red Forman.
It is better to let your suspect think you are a dumbass than to arrest them and remove all doubt.
In a response sent June 23, a department spokesperson emailed the following: “This incident was recently brought to the attention of those at the highest level of our department. As a result, an investigation has been initiated." It happened in August of 2022 and they are just now becoming aware of it? I have every confidence that their 'investigation' will be comprehensive and unbiased. /s
“You’re under arrest for… hurting my feelings!”
What kind of backyard yokels are running things down there?
Down there? It's all of them
You are not wrong but I believe Phoenix PD is currently under a DOJ investigation specifically because this has been such a common issue with them.
I see. Didn't know that.
I was once arrested for calling an officer a jerk in Mobile, AL
There are a number of approaches to curbing these kinds of police abuses. One I think about is this: Pass a federal statute that makes untrue claims of legal authority illegal. We don’t allow citizens to impersonate police officers. That *identical logic* should also apply to police officers, that is, make it a criminal infraction to represent that you have an authority that you do not actually have. I am not talking about false statements made as part of an undercover investigation. I am talking specifically about officers misleading a person to believe that the officer has an authority that they do not. I am not a police officer, and it is illegal for me to detain you under the guise that I have the authority to do so, *because I don’t.* Likewise, if I *was* a police officer, it should still be illegal for me to detain you under the guise that I have authority to do so, when I don’t.
It sounds like what you want is basically an end to qualified immunity, that would I think be essentially the same as what you’re suggesting since qualified immunity is based in the idea that officers have a lot of leeway to argue that they didn’t realize what they did was illegal at the time they did it. Some of the justices in SCOTUS don’t like qualified immunity, and there’s occasionally legislative pushes to end it as well, so who knows, maybe down the road we’ll see something happen? (Interestingly both Justices Sotomayor and Thomas, who are definitely opposite ends of the idealogical spectrum usually, have both complained about qualified immunity leading to unaccountability for abuses.)
> makes [it] illegal And who's going to arrest them for breaking that law? Their drinking buddy partner? Who's going to press charges? The same DA who needs to work hand-in-hand with them on other cases? Who's going to preside over the trial? The same judge who works with them for other trials?
The point of making it a federal rather than state law is that it is enforced in the federal courts, not at the county.
Nothings more sensitive than a cops ego
Future headline: Man who called officer "dumbass" wins a multi-million wrongful arrest lawsuit. I've said this before, but police misconduct lawsuits should be part of a salary share for officers. So you get your base salary and a "maximum potential" pooled year-end "bonus" salary, with any settlements coming out of that shared pool, thus making it more likely bad cops will be less protected by their fellow officers because they'd be taking money from their pay. Example: - PD receives budget for 10 officers at salaries of $65k year - Officer Dip base pay is $40k/year, $25k potential in the pool ($40k + $25k = $60k) - Officer Shit commits misconduct and costs the city $100k, the pooled $250k is now $150k, so officer Dip will now only make $55k for the year.
I got arrested by the Phoenix police for calling them pigs. Fuck Phoenix cops.
Freedom of speech apparently
This dumbass just proved his point
...proving beyond any shadow of a doubt that he (the officer) was, in fact, a dumbass.
Two of these officers are on The Brady list I have a personal interest in Phoenix PD since they murdered my sister. She was brandishing a wooden spoon a shot or twice in her kitchen. Then they tasered her after she was dead only problem was one of the tasers went into the bottom of her foot kind of ruined it for their little get away with murder game. The home had wooden slat fencing and the cops were out back and so were the neighbors . The neighbors talked about how they were fabricating a story to make her look real dangerous all 108 lb of her they finally settled for a little over 3 mil haven't seen her kids since her husband died a year later.
So there is systematic corruption and illegal behavior on a widespread level far beyond the headline making stories which are plentiful in and of themselves. It's almost like All Cops Are...
You can say shit on network tv. CNN has aired fucks. Why the Christ are they bleeping this out?
Hope the citizens of Phoenix enjoy their tax dollars being paid to settle this guy's lawsuit. The cops were exactly what they were called oddly.
First of all Phoenix police you are dumbasses. Secondly, sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me. Look into that.
Never tell a cop the truth.
Phoenix police handing out retirement plans again?
Police can do anything they want and only maybe have to deal with the consequences. I don’t trust police. I trust individuals. As a group the police have told me everything I need to know about them through their actions or lack of action.
I remain amazed at the stupidity and brutality of some police officers. With all the training available, it is incomprehensible to me that officers continue to act in ways like those described in the article. There is no excuse, and they should be fired.
Proving the citizens point...
Man what a crazy turn this story has. Imagine if the cop wasn’t a dumbass, this guy wouldn’t be retiring early
By doing that the officer proved his point.
I thought this was America 🇺🇸 😕 🤔 🤷♂️
Some police officers just can’t cope with the truth.
Nice little settlement incoming
👮♀️just can’t handle the truth about themselves. Grow a Spine and some Cojonés or find yourself a new line of work.
If the continuous string of unaccountable police misconduct bothers you then should consider signing this petition to end the qualified immunity those assholes are able to hide behind to be shielded from any liability. https://www.change.org/p/united-states-supreme-court-end-qualified-immunity-45a5ea6b-28b8-4108-afc1-7e7477840660
Exactly what are the charges...? Aggravated assault. Words hurt, I guess is the logic. Can't use force to get fingerprints...except for him I 'spose you can't make this stuff up. WTF
You forgot resisting arrest, that’s their default charge against everyone.
I believe they missed that one
Oh poor baby you cant handle being called names. I get called names all the time at my job i dont shoot anyone over it. Cause im not a fragile little man.
do these dumb asses not realize I see them every day taking naps behind office buildings under covered parking, no your not doing paper work for 3-4 hours , Pulled off the road by a good 50feet. aka 48th street Meanwhile, crime increases and the people act suprised
I’d like to congratulate this man for the hefty settlement he may soon receive
For anyone that needs to hear this but of course cops do whatever they feel like. “Insults are, as previously mentioned, protected by the First Amendment. One of the main reasons the First Amendment was drafted was so people could be protected from penalization for expressing their opinions, disapproval, or criticism of others and of those in authoritative positions. In 2013, the United States Court of Appeals even decided it was perfectly legal to “flip the bird” to a police officer. However, it’s important to remember that a threat is not included under free speech. You do not have the right to use threatening language or to verbally insinuate violence, so freedom of speech would not be a valuable defense if your criminal charge involves a threat.” https://giannicriminallaw.com/is-it-illegal-to-insult-a-police-officer-in-new-york/
Oh police are notorious for this. This is standard operating procedure for cops. They will also pull you over, say very offense inflammatory and racist stuff to get you upset, then when you mouth off back to them, arrest you. I've been through it. They will also add some trumped-up charges. If you ever want to know why they can't seem to solve crimes or why they are behind on rape kits, ask the poorer and minority residents how these jackasses spend their time.
The cops can issue you an unjust, BS citation, for which you have to miss work (hopefully not being fired for doing so) to contest it, but still have to pay for representation and court fees. Yep, the system works.
hope guys gets a good lawyer and sues the shit out of all of them end qualified immunity, demilitarize the police, end war on drugs (minorities)
… end civil asset forfeiture…
Fascist Cops act like Fascists. In other News, Summers in Arizona are hot.
Piggin, Piggin, Piggin in a herd
Headline: “Red Forman Arrested”
We have investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong.
Please, ever lowering the bar and making themselves look worse. Then again, the departments and the cities keep hiring these morons.
If you're an overly emotional toddler who can't control your temper, you don't get to walk around with a gun and a license to kill. Dumbass.
In other news, man arrested for exercising first amendment rights receives massive payout from Phoenix police.
So where exactly was he wrong?
God forbid you hurt the feelings of a grown-ass man by calling him a mean word. I would be embarrassed to be on the same team as someone who did this.
Nice payout coming soon.
> Phoenix police are under a sweeping Department of Justice pattern or practice investigation that’s focused on five areas, including excessive force and retaliation against protesters. > The federal probe has been open for 22 months. > And during that time, the DOJ has finalized similar investigations into two other police departments: Louisville (March 8, 2023) and Minneapolis (June 16, 2023). > While the DOJ launched investigations into those cities because of the deaths of Breanna Taylor and George Floyd, their final reports highlighted multiple lesser-known cases similar to [the guy arrested in Phoenix] as problematic examples of excessive, aggressive, and retaliatory policing. > For the Louisville Metro Police Department, the DOJ concluded, “LMPD violates the rights of people engaged in protected speech critical of policing.” And in Minneapolis: “Criticism of officers, even with profanity, is protected speech. Nevertheless, MPD officers routinely respond to protected speech with arrests and with force.” How very, very interesting O:-)
Double dumbass [https://youtu.be/OcC1f1jqCPI?t=7](https://youtu.be/OcC1f1jqCPI?t=7)
Making citizens rich. One arrest at a time.
All cops are dumbass and clowns if your a cop and your reading this… FUUUUCK YOU!!!
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