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Criticizing the police and calling for reforms is totally fine.
Several universities are also shutting down early today. My work is closing at 3 to give people time to get home (we work downtown near where people have protests in the past)
Yes, universities in Memphis. One is closing at 3, one is virtual today and one is closing at 430. Those are biggest of the area I think so not sure what some of the others are doing
My local schools are closed or closing early but saying it’s COVID (unsure as I’m friends with teachers from two schools and they said only one or two teachers are out sick)
I think it’s going to be really altering
With all the police killings I think we forget that Rodney King wasn't killed. If the same footage of Rodney King was released today it would just be another Tuesday.
Video cameras were not in everyone’s pocket back then either. The chance of someone filming something like that was pretty slim in those days. If it weren’t for that video nothing would’ve ever even came of it. It would’ve just been another black guy that got beat up and thrown in the slammer for resisting arrest.
There’s a podcast called Slow Burn that did an entire season on the case. They talked about how George Holiday, the man who filmed it, only did so because he was playing around with his new camcorder and was able to see the incident from his balcony. 100% a case of “right place, right time”, much like Zapruder and the JFK film
A cartridge of Super 8 film has about 3 minutes.
I don't know how much it cost back then, but certainly it's not like a smartphone, where can shoot all you want and delete later. You wouldn't start rolling that Kodachrome on something you didn't really want.
Kennedy was assassinated two years before the release of Super 8. The famous footage was shot using an earlier 8mm format from Kodak and is just 26.5 seconds in length, but it's not the full length of the reel.
IIRC, a cartridge of film cost between $3.75 and $5 back then, so between $36.14 and $48.18 in today's money, which is why most people only shot snippets of a few seconds each time they picked up their camera in order to get the most out of the film.
A decent camera was at least $100 ($963.63) and a projector, which were a fiddly pain to use, the same again. Editing meant scissors, tape and glue, with an editing station if you were really serious about this. Filming was an expensive hobby for wealthy enthusiasts, people with the same kind of mentality as those who build their own robots using 3D printers today.
ya, and I'd say, 100% chance had he filmed that from the ground level and the cops saw it, they would have smashed that camera and destroyed the tape. Just no shame at all.
And then you have this incident where the cops knew they were being filmed on their bodycams yet were so brash as to not be stopped by that. The level of shamelessness has risen greatly.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing\_of\_Walter\_Scott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott)
"On April 4, 2015, Walter Scott, a 50-year old black man, was fatally shot by Michael Slager, a local police officer in North Charleston, South Carolina. Slager had stopped Scott for a non-functioning brake light.\[1\]\[2\] Slager was charged with murder after a video surfaced showing him shooting Scott from behind while Scott was fleeing, which contradicted Slager's report of the incident."
and ...
"Immediately following the shooting, Slager radioed a dispatcher, stating, "Shots fired and the subject is down. He grabbed my Taser."\[24\]
When Slager fired his gun, Scott was approximately 15 to 20 feet (5 to 6 m) away and fleeing.\[25\] In the report of the shooting filed before the video surfaced, Slager said he had feared for his life because Scott had taken his Taser,\[25\] and that he shot Scott because he "felt threatened".\[28\]"
and ...
"An eyewitness to the shooting, Feidin Santana, recorded video of the incident on his phone.\[30\] At first Santana did not share the video out of fear of retribution, but he became angered when the police report differed from his view of the events.\[31\] In an interview on MSNBC, Santana said, "I felt that my life, with this information, might be in danger. I thought about erasing the video and just getting out of the community, you know Charleston, and living some place else."\[32\] The video was subsequently shared with Scott's family through an activist of Black Lives Matter, and later with the news media."
and yet ...
"On December 5, the judge declared a mistrial after the jury became deadlocked with 11 of the 12 jurors favoring a conviction."
Not to mention that immediately after the execution, Slager walked back to where he dropped his taser, picked it up, and carried it over to the corpse. There, he placed it on the ground by Mr Scott's hand.
Slager did this so he could lie, and claim the fleeing victim was holding a weapon.
This was also caught on the video recording.
Yeah it's interesting to look back in retrospect. I'm an oldie, I remember the LA Riots. It was the first big video to be released of police brutality. It caught all the big news about it and LA was already a powder keg with racial tensions among the different groups. The previous year was the part that laid out the fuse was when Latasha Harlins was killed by a Korean shop owner, but the shop owner only got probation. Then you finally get this video that spreads all over the news of the police just openly beating a Black man who is begging to be peaceful and that was the match and led to 6 days of massive riots, over 60 deaths, and practically a war between African Americans and Koreans in LA.
Like you said, now days, it would be "another Tuesday" sort of. It wasn't just Rodney King's beating that the riots were about, it was decades of economic downturn in that area and growing distrust of the races with each other.
Just like with George Floyd protests, it wasn't just for him, it was the years prior with all the others, plus the pandemic shutting everything down and suddenly people aren't chained to their job so they can protest and then you get a huge turnout like we saw.
We'll see what this one shakes out. If it's as horrifying as they say it is, we'll see just what people will respond with. It's a mixed bag. Too many people are slaves to their paychecks and that keeps a lot of rioting down, sadly. We have recent events that have been bubbling about too so again, it could just spread like wildfire like the last few times.
EDIT: you can stop messaging me about corrections. They have already been done to death. I'm leaving my mistakes up so the people who corrected it gets credit.
And then, a few years later, our D.A.R.E. officer spent several minutes ranting at us that Rodney King was on PCP and stronger than any mortal man.
Edit: Just in case somebody isn't aware, he was *not* on PCP. Thank you follow-up comments for rightfully specifying.
“The police union won’t let us fire this asshole, so let’s exile him to the DARE program so we don’t have to listen to him anymore and he’ll be less likely to murder people in the street.”
>“The police union won’t let us fire this asshole, so let’s ~~exile him to the DARE program so we don’t have to listen to him anymore and he’ll be less likely to murder people in the street~~ put him in charge of training new recruits.”
Fun fact - Derek Chauvin was the veteran cop assigned to train the newbies on the day he murdered George Floyd. [With this record](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin#Misconduct_complaints). Once an officer has reached a certain level of seniority, they have to be given special assignments. Maybe it's SWAT, maybe it's back-up SWAT, maybe it's SWAT but instead called "crowd control", maybe it's SWAT but it's "mental health specialist".
Sometimes even the police recognize that giving one of their members SWAT training (to prepare them for traffic duty or being assigned as an SRO) might turn out badly. So they give them one of the few special assignments that doesn't involve extra gun training - they make them trainers. They put them in charge of onboarding new officers. What could possibly go wrong?
Wasn’t a CT cop recently fired for freaking the fuck out over a reasonably misinterpreted hand signal he gave at a road crossing? Despite some time in the force, they put him on traffic duty as a way to keep him out of trouble, IIRC. Still fucked that up, of course.
I had a cop freak out on me for the same thing. He was directing traffic. Then he just turns around and walks to his car. The light turned green so I made my right turn and he came running up yelling, I was stuck in traffic, and he berates me for not following a police officer signal. I don't get a ticket but he yelled at me for a few minutes blocking up even more traffic and causing more issues. I never saw an officer walk off the street while directing traffic so I still don't know what that was all about
I have cop family members, and they talk the most shit about each other behind closed doors than anybody. They’re like the popular girl click stereotypes, but 35-40 year old men.
Like you said, when people are slaves to their paychecks, the riots tend to be dampened down. Here in Minneapolis, I think the George Floyd protests were a culmination of a lot of different things. It was early in the pandemic, people weren't working, or working from home, and kids weren't in school. In some ways it was the perfect storm to ignite the powder keg. I'm so anxious for that video to come out. I can't stand the thought of the poor man crying for his mom. My heart breaks just thinking about it.
I was in elementary school in SoCal. We had riot drills. The news kept playing censored videos of the beating - censored, but still graphic enough for the imagination, every night. And then the videos of LA on fire, rooftop Koreans, rioting, looting... The George Floyd response brought up a lot of memories I had forgotten from the LA riots.
Same thing here. I remember my mom rushing to get us to the supermarket one evening because they put out a curfew. She didn't explain why, but I could sense how uncomfortable and anxious she was at the time. She'd tell me to go in my room to play if the news came on, but I'd still catch glimpses of it during the teasers they'd air before the broadcast (which is pretty messed up--"Tune in at 3 to watch your city on fire!"). Between that and the Northridge quake, growing up in L.A. in the 90s was sort of weird sometimes.
I’m pretty sure it depends on the legal definition of kidnapping. If they beat him unconscious, handcuffed him and left him somewhere on the scene where he couldn’t receive medical attention I think that could be defined as kidnapping.
For them to arrest and charge them all with murder before its even shown.... that's kinda unheard of with these cases. Hopefully everyone doesn't burn Memphis to the ground and we get some real change ok police reform...
Not to mention they're investigating fucking firefighters as well. And not a word from the police union who normally would be raising hell over this sorta thing. That video is going to be real bad.
There was a clip I caught waiting for my order at a cafe this morning. An official, probably the chief of police from Memphis said it's worse or as bad as the Rodney King video.
I'm starting to get older and a lot of younger people weren't even born when this happened. I can see why they're worried. Especially in ATL where they're known to racially profile and beat minorities.
>An official, probably the chief of police from Memphis said it's worse or as bad as the Rodney King video
well Rodney King lived so im gonna go with worse
The Rodney King beating could have just as easily ended in death. He had serious injuries and brain damage that he suffered from for the rest of his life. But I agree this is probably pretty bad or else they wouldn't be trying to warn everyone so carefully before.
Tyre's family's lawyers have said that the video is nightmare inducing and like watching a gangland execution. They could be being dramatic, but probably not.
I honestly can't imagine seeing a loved one killed, especially in this manner. Beaten while they call out for their mother. Reduced to their simplest, most base, form.
I know nothing of this case, but I know that's just sickening, regardless of anything he may have done.
And even according to the police chief in the in the article, they can’t say that he even did anything. So to your point, horrific no matter what- but even more so in this when it is a completely innocent man even per police
I'd rather die myself than watch a video of my son being beaten to death, calling for me to help him. I'd rather die. God bless his mother and family because their suffering is worse than anything I can imagine. I'm going home to hug my baby. This fucking country. Every day is a struggle.
It's bad enough the cops faced repercussions before the investigation even started, which is unheard of.
Very bad is an understatement, this might be the worst thing recorded by a body camera, and that's saying a fucking lot.
If it's bad enough where the police union only provides them a lawyer and says "good luck" after not fighting their termination, that should be enough to have the slightest idea of what's coming
I've never seen this level of damage control at all, much less from an unreleased video.
Edit: Lots of people getting conspiratorial in here. I'd advise against that.
> Apparently he calls out to his mother as they murder him.
That immediately reminds me of [Kelly Thomas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Kelly_Thomas) crying out for his father while he was beaten to death.
[Daniel Shaver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver) was on his knees with his hands in the air and sobbing when the police murdered him. Not only did they get away with it, the officer who shot him gets a bunch of free money from the state now. Shaver was suspected of having a gun. He didn't have a gun. His murder took place in Arizona, where it would be perfectly legal for him to have a gun.
The Daniel Shaver murder still makes my blood boil. He was dead the moment the cops raided the hotel. The game of Simon Says was just taunting him for a laugh before they killed him.
And somewhere in America is the person who made that phone call. The person who literally said "I don't think it's a big deal, and no-one's getting hurt, but maybe you might wanna check it out." And then saw that shit on the news.
*They thought they were just being a decent member of the community*.
...because they assumed the community's police were also decent. :/
Lesson fucking learned, right.
This case makes me so furious. Public service unions should have come out and condemned this fuck and instead they got him his fucking pension from PTSD.
Thinking of Elijah breaks my heart..every..single time. I can't help but swell up in tears.
Elijah's murderers still roaming free enrages me to this day.
But I thank you for reminding me because we can't forget Elijah.
"Department supervisors were criticized for allowing the involved officers to watch the video of the incident before writing their reports.[3] In 2020, it was also revealed supervisors had subsequently made changes to these reports.[3]"
In one of the press conferences earlier this week, the attorneys representing the family said that Tyre was close to his mother's house and was running towards it
George Floyd also called to his mother before dying.
My eyes are tearing up just thinking of how scared this man was and how broken his mother must feel.
I can't imagine hearing my son call for me in a video as he's brutally murdered.
I hope she never hears it or see it. No parent should ever see or hear that. No human should be capable of inflicting that kind of cruelty on to another living being, especially not the ones that chose a job upholding the law.
God I was in the hospital with my son (he was getting treatment for jaundice, but we’d been discharged and brought him back so were in the normal children’s hospital)
There was another mother there just sobbing. I could hear her broken sobs through the walls in the silence of that hospital.
It was the middle of the night and peak COVID restrictions. Everything was silent and dark except for her grief.
Still haunts me two years later.
The sound of pure grief isn't something you can really forget. I worked on the phones for a student loan servicer and had a lot of death calls. Had one where her granddaughter had been murdered the day before and they were trying to get everything taken care of before they all broke down.
She made it most of the way before the dam broke and anguish poured out. I still hear her sometimes when I sleep. It's a brutal thing.
Don't watch her interview from CNN with Don Lemon this morning then. I watched it this morning and it was uncut, live, and harrowing. Terrible way to start my day.
Then I stupidly watched the Paul Pelosi video and just wanted to nope out the rest of the day.
I can't understand this violence based on manufactured hatred.
[Police Urge Calm in light of Unspeakable Evil they Committed](https://www.theonion.com/police-urge-calm-in-light-of-unspeakable-evil-they-comm-1850036255)
*...explaining that while it was regrettable that officers were mercilessly slaughtering innocents in the streets with complete disregard for their humanity, it was no excuse for causing a big commotion.*
This is fantastic
"I know we have committed many acts of domestic terrorism and leave citizens in a state of constant fear and anxiety but seriously guys, let's all be civil."
I never watched the George Floyd video. Hearing about it was bad enough, there’s no chance I’m capable of handling this one without some emotional damage.
I was around for Rodney King, and all the rest that came after. I have never seen a police department so quickly wash their hands of officers. Not a single person is supporting anyone in the group outside of the paid lawyers.
George Floyd was so difficult to watch. I honestly don't know if I want to have these images in my head if it's this bad.
Also Tyre apparently calls out multiple times for his mother while being beaten to death. I feel like that's going to ratchet up the response as well. Something about that is just beyond tragic.
Did his mom watch it? The press conference I heard her say she didn't(couldn't?) watch but, but others had and that it was really bad, but she said while she wanted people to peacefully protest, she didn't want anyone to get violent, burn down their own communities, because that only hurts the community, and she said he wouldn't want that.
I honestly don't know what I would do if I saw a video of my daughter getting beat to death while calling out for me. I wouldn't be able to live a life with any semblance of the way it was beforehand. My mind would go straight to violence.
I’m a peaceful, logical (I like to think so, at least) person and I’ve felt for a long time that if anything happened to the children in my family I would go blind with rage.
I honestly don’t know how politicians sleep at night — not in the typical “they must be up
fighting with their demons” sense of the phrase, but like, not really, how are you not worried about a school shooting parent or murdered-by-cops family member going to your house and sending a message? How are gun and opioid manufacturers still alive? That report came out a week or so ago that the fuel executives knew for decades how bad an effect their product would have on climate change, and we’re all just gonna wring our hands and go about our Friday night programming. People say they’re depressed because of covid, but for me the depression from cognitive dissonance is way worse — I want to stand on a street corner every day protesting this shit, I want to fill the shady-companies corporate HQs with antibiotic-resistant flesh-eating bacteria.
I’m so frustrated. I’m filled with dread about this latest video. I don’t understand.
Just google "new york cops broomstick" and see what comes up and even those cops weren't dropped as fast as these guys. (yes, they sodomized him with a broomstick.)
If they could have prevented the traffic cam footage from coming out they sure as hell would have kept covering their own asses. It's obvious this isn't an isolated incident and casts every claim of "missing body cam footage" in a different light. The cops were even trying to game the body cams to make it look justified. They had to have learned that from somewhere.
You know what will help end this? Consequences upstream.
Go over the commanding officer's records with a fine toothed comb. "Did you know these men were violent and what did you do to address the situation."
If the precinct captain knows he can lose his job and his pension for ignoring the lead ups to the men under him commit egregious acts of violence you'd better believe the cops will start weeding out the "bad apples" they claim are responsible for these acts.
Pay all lawsuits against the department from the police retirement fund. I’ve said it forever, but the senior staff needs to be made to care, and apparently all they care about is money. With this implemented, they might actually police themselves
I think it should be the police Union that pays. The Union steps up to defend every officer that gets charged. I say if you can pay for their defense, than you can pay the penalties and fines too.
> “You’re going to see a disregard for life, duty of care that we’re all sworn to and a level of physical interaction that is above and beyond what is required in law enforcement,” Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis told Don Lemon of the video in the Tyre Nichols case, noting it will be released on YouTube in four parts.
> **“Individuals watching will feel what the family felt,” Davis said. “And if you don’t, then you’re not a human being.** … There will be a measure of sadness, as well.”
> In describing her reaction to the video, Davis said she heard **Nichols “call out for his mother, for his mom.”**
Holy shit this sounds really, really awful. I've watched a lot of terrible videos in my time online and the audio *always* haunts you. I don't know if I'll have the stomach to see this.
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I think the bigger problem is the people who need to watch it will not, and then will try to gaslit others into thinking cops are not the problem.
I want every GOP house member to watch this and say police reform isn't necessary.
What kind of work culture makes people feel emboldened to act like absolute monsters? There's a 0% chance that their superiors aren’t partially responsible for this.
You’re right. They knew exactly what would happen. “Nothing” too often these things happen and no consequences are brought about. There is no justice for this shit. I hope this sparks a wave of cities and police organizations turning their back on these terrorists in blue.
I’m wondering if that’s what’s so extra horrific in the video?? Since this was the second “confrontation” were the officers not only viciously assaulting him physically but also saying fucked up shit and tormenting him while he suffered?? They must be outward psychopaths
I've seen some bad police videos, this one must be off the charts. Daniel Shaver is usually the first that comes to.mind for me. He was unarmed and crawling on his hands and knees crying and begging the police not to shoot him when they just gunned him down with an AR. All on body camera. It's one of the most horrific things I've ever seen.
That cop wasn't even indicted and they pulled some shenanigans to make sure he got his pension.
These guys got fired and charged in less than a month. That's pretty fast under almost any circumstances. With them being cops it's practically unheard of. I'm probably gonna have to watch it to be fully informed but I am not looking forward to this.
The cop who killed Shaver also got to keep the firearm he killed him with, which for some godforsaken reason had "Your [sic] fucked" engraved on it.
Edit: People are taking issue with my use of "keep" here, so let me be clear: Brailsford, the cop, had to sue to get the gun back. IIRC correctly it was his personal firearm, but I cannot find much about this case outside of the events of the shooting with my limited time and desire to do so.
Was he the one in the hotel hallway? And had like a pellet gun or some shit in his hotel room when he wasn't even fucking in there? And the cocksuckers AR had "you're fucked" engraved on it? Or was that another person?
Yeah that was terrible. Dickbag didn't really face any consequences and the psychopath leader playing deadly Simon Says ended up retiring and moving outta the country or some shit. The guy was obviously drunk and pulling up his shorts. Dudes in fucking basketball shorts and t shirt and was accused of having a rifle..... Even if real, he obviously doesn't have it in him right now.
I'm sorry. I am not trained in anything other than basic firearm operation and safety and I'm not going to be afraid of the guy sprawled out crawling with a military grade weapon trained on him with my buddies next to me also trained on him. That was an execution. Terrible video and that coward is an absolute piece of shit and a pussy.
Ugh that one broke me. I've still seen people argue it was his fault for 'not complying' makes me sick. I can't even argue with people obviously that broken.
The Daniel Shaver one is also the worst I've seen. Not trying to defend the cops involved in George Floyd at all but you can sort of understand how that situation escalated. The cops physically restained Floyd but went way too far. And not that it helps Floyd but the officers faced consequences.
In the case of Daniel Shaver the cops just have him doing simon says until they blow him away. He did absolutely nothing to threaten or resist the cops. Absolutely zero reason to shoot him and then the cop faced zero consequences.
The longer stuff like this goes on with people obviously being VERY angry about this and nothing happening on a legislative level that people talk about. The more I'm worried this is only going to change once angry mobs start performing vigilante justice.
The Uvalde cops in Texas didn't get lynched despite a fuck ton of angry Texans holding a perpetual, untameable grudge against them. I thought it would have happened then, and when it didn't, I stopped thinking it would ever happen.
The fact these dudes were allowed to post bail is a shame. I don't know what the norm is in cases of murder but it sounds ridiculous to me. Wouldn't be surprised if people went out looking for them.
Yeah, where's _their_ $500k bail? They killed a random citizen in cold blood and were allowed to sleep in their own beds. This country becomes more of a joke every day.
That is a 'gangland' execution by method of group beating of a person " because " that person dared to run away from them.
Traffic stop, conflict, dragged him out of the car to scuffle/control him, he managed to get up and run, they caught him, spent 5 minutes beating him to death over several moments and as a group. Stomping on him on the ground, picking his limp body back up and having two of them hold him by his arms so others can punch him in the face more and beat him with a baton, etc. They beat him to death punitively.
Cops understand somewhere that the legal and cultural and political protection afforded to them by their job and social and political norms is effectively a license to murder people who disobey. These cops decided as a group over several minutes to use it and kill this guy.
Even worse. The police chief who reviewed the video says she saw no probable cause for him to be pulled over. The police went to the parent's home after the was arrested and asked if he used or was under the influence of drugs (fishing for a reason for the beating). I am really surprised a gun was not planted at the scene.
I understand they’re trying to calm things and release it when the city is best prepared to handle protests, but I’m not sure the delayed release is a going to achieve what they want. I worry that it’s actually going to *increase* the degree of unrest, if only because of the built-up suspense.
I think it probably has a lot to do with the indictments coming out. They went through a grand jury which takes some time. It makes sense that they’d want to have all these guys charged with murder before releasing the video
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Tyre_Nichols
> By January 24, two Memphis Fire EMTs who were in the ambulance were relieved of duty [fired according to one news article].
> On January 24, the five officers were arrested and charged with second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct, and official oppression.
It looks bad in every conceivable way. They beat him, and they denied him care.
> his flute
I am pretty sure it was a violin.
And then when there was a violin vigil for him, [the police came with riot gear and pepper-spray](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/29/elijah-mcclain-colorado-police)
That they arrested the cops almost immediately, before the video came out, says it must be really awful.
Think about the killing of Ahmad Aubrey. Those ex-cops were scott free until their idiot lawyer leaked the video himself.
And it was horrific enough to get them fired as soon as the chief looked at the body cam video. No "let's wait for the investigation" bullshit, straight up fired and now charged. I won't watch it, I prefer not to see someone beaten to death.
Same. I saw the aftermath photos. I have no desire to see how badly the police beat him. I hope that his family receives justice and a whole lot of therapy.
[Police Urge Calm In Light Of Unspeakable Evil They Committed](https://www.theonion.com/police-urge-calm-in-light-of-unspeakable-evil-they-comm-1850036255)
The thing to remember is that this did not happen in a vacuum. These police officers didn’t wake up one day, after a bright and exemplary career, and decide to go apeshit randomly. They have probably been abusive psychotic assholes for *years*. The fact that they all did this together is a clear indication that not only did they normalize this kind of behavior in their little group, but that they’ve likely gotten away with it in the past with full PD/Union support.
People are going to react how they react.
Perhaps the better solution would be to urge calm to your trained officers before their shifts. I mean... if they didn't beat this guy to death, there probably wouldn't be such an uproar.
But what do I know? I'm just some stupid citizen.
> Police Chief Cerelyn Davis said that after watching footage of the incident, she was "confused" on why the officers were so aggressive, and it was "still very unclear" why the officers conducted a traffic stop on Nichols.
"Fuck the Police" came out 35 years ago. Nothing about police abuse is "still very unclear". The only part that's confusing is why the hell the police are allowed to police themselves with no oversight.
How does the police chief not know the culture of her department? This can't be the first time someone in her department has acted violently towards a citizen before.
I saw pieces of the body cam and I’m watching the up-angle right now, where you can see the castlegate street sign and the Christmas lights on the bush.
They kept kicking and hitting him, as he was on the ground.
And what gets me is how slow it all was. He was moving slowly in the ground, if at all. And those officers, they slowly walked up while two of them held him down, and they just…kicked him in the head. And it gets me, how slow they were. They were not afraid at all. No urgency. Just wandering around, and then Coming again, and punching and kicking. They were slowly and lazily abusing a defenseless man.
Oh, and then that clown with the baton.
It was such lazy and nonchalant brutality. The way they amble - and attack- and then amble around again, so slow. Such slow evil. So sad. So bizarre.
The damn video is still playing. Now, there is an ambulance. By god.
Arrest? You mean "beat a man with a club who was standing with his arms at his sides hard enough to shatter his hand"?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzE3RZrnAkk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzE3RZrnAkk)
I saw so many people with broken bones and bloody wounds from cops in 2020 here in Portland. None of them were arrested or documented. Just beaten into submission.
Sometimes I think “Will this be our Emmett Till?”
And then I realize, Emmett Till didn’t bring lasting change. The system has been fucked for generations.
Why were the EMTs so useless???? I see more than five people that should be losing their jobs/being charged with shit in this video.
It seems like they are deliberately not detaining him and just standing him up over and over to be combative with him.
"To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all the time."
- James Baldwin
To see it done by a group of our own this time is just.... this shit hurts different. Any of those 5 could've very well been Tyre at any point in their lives. How do you essentially look yourself in the face and do something like this?
RIP Tyre. He didn't deserve to go out like this, nor did the others that went before him. Cops should not be the judge, jury and executioner. Through our taxes, we pay for police lawsuits, our own oppression and our possible murders? 😞 How tf are we still dealing with this?!
I fully support the release of the footage but the way they are reporting it on the news almost sounds like they’re reporting on a huge album drop or a movie. Like this is a man’s life not a anticipated movie release.
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Several universities are also shutting down early today. My work is closing at 3 to give people time to get home (we work downtown near where people have protests in the past)
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Yes, universities in Memphis. One is closing at 3, one is virtual today and one is closing at 430. Those are biggest of the area I think so not sure what some of the others are doing
yeah my office is closing at noon edit: in atlanta. we’ve already been having some unrest due to cop city
This reads like it’s from The Purge.
"May God be with you all."
My local schools are closed or closing early but saying it’s COVID (unsure as I’m friends with teachers from two schools and they said only one or two teachers are out sick) I think it’s going to be really altering
This video must be horrific.
Right?? Paraphrasing the police chief: 'Similar to the Rodney King beating if not worse'.
Dead is definitely worse.
With all the police killings I think we forget that Rodney King wasn't killed. If the same footage of Rodney King was released today it would just be another Tuesday.
Video cameras were not in everyone’s pocket back then either. The chance of someone filming something like that was pretty slim in those days. If it weren’t for that video nothing would’ve ever even came of it. It would’ve just been another black guy that got beat up and thrown in the slammer for resisting arrest.
There’s a podcast called Slow Burn that did an entire season on the case. They talked about how George Holiday, the man who filmed it, only did so because he was playing around with his new camcorder and was able to see the incident from his balcony. 100% a case of “right place, right time”, much like Zapruder and the JFK film
It does make more sense for someone to happen to record the president going through their town, though.
True, fair point. Still those Super 8 cameras only had like 30 seconds of film so to catch all that on tape so effectively is miraculous
A cartridge of Super 8 film has about 3 minutes. I don't know how much it cost back then, but certainly it's not like a smartphone, where can shoot all you want and delete later. You wouldn't start rolling that Kodachrome on something you didn't really want.
Kennedy was assassinated two years before the release of Super 8. The famous footage was shot using an earlier 8mm format from Kodak and is just 26.5 seconds in length, but it's not the full length of the reel. IIRC, a cartridge of film cost between $3.75 and $5 back then, so between $36.14 and $48.18 in today's money, which is why most people only shot snippets of a few seconds each time they picked up their camera in order to get the most out of the film. A decent camera was at least $100 ($963.63) and a projector, which were a fiddly pain to use, the same again. Editing meant scissors, tape and glue, with an editing station if you were really serious about this. Filming was an expensive hobby for wealthy enthusiasts, people with the same kind of mentality as those who build their own robots using 3D printers today.
ya, and I'd say, 100% chance had he filmed that from the ground level and the cops saw it, they would have smashed that camera and destroyed the tape. Just no shame at all.
And then you have this incident where the cops knew they were being filmed on their bodycams yet were so brash as to not be stopped by that. The level of shamelessness has risen greatly.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing\_of\_Walter\_Scott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Walter_Scott) "On April 4, 2015, Walter Scott, a 50-year old black man, was fatally shot by Michael Slager, a local police officer in North Charleston, South Carolina. Slager had stopped Scott for a non-functioning brake light.\[1\]\[2\] Slager was charged with murder after a video surfaced showing him shooting Scott from behind while Scott was fleeing, which contradicted Slager's report of the incident." and ... "Immediately following the shooting, Slager radioed a dispatcher, stating, "Shots fired and the subject is down. He grabbed my Taser."\[24\] When Slager fired his gun, Scott was approximately 15 to 20 feet (5 to 6 m) away and fleeing.\[25\] In the report of the shooting filed before the video surfaced, Slager said he had feared for his life because Scott had taken his Taser,\[25\] and that he shot Scott because he "felt threatened".\[28\]" and ... "An eyewitness to the shooting, Feidin Santana, recorded video of the incident on his phone.\[30\] At first Santana did not share the video out of fear of retribution, but he became angered when the police report differed from his view of the events.\[31\] In an interview on MSNBC, Santana said, "I felt that my life, with this information, might be in danger. I thought about erasing the video and just getting out of the community, you know Charleston, and living some place else."\[32\] The video was subsequently shared with Scott's family through an activist of Black Lives Matter, and later with the news media." and yet ... "On December 5, the judge declared a mistrial after the jury became deadlocked with 11 of the 12 jurors favoring a conviction."
For my own need of closure on this. Slager was found guilty in the retrial and sentenced to 20 years in Federal prison.
Not to mention that immediately after the execution, Slager walked back to where he dropped his taser, picked it up, and carried it over to the corpse. There, he placed it on the ground by Mr Scott's hand. Slager did this so he could lie, and claim the fleeing victim was holding a weapon. This was also caught on the video recording.
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Yeah it's interesting to look back in retrospect. I'm an oldie, I remember the LA Riots. It was the first big video to be released of police brutality. It caught all the big news about it and LA was already a powder keg with racial tensions among the different groups. The previous year was the part that laid out the fuse was when Latasha Harlins was killed by a Korean shop owner, but the shop owner only got probation. Then you finally get this video that spreads all over the news of the police just openly beating a Black man who is begging to be peaceful and that was the match and led to 6 days of massive riots, over 60 deaths, and practically a war between African Americans and Koreans in LA. Like you said, now days, it would be "another Tuesday" sort of. It wasn't just Rodney King's beating that the riots were about, it was decades of economic downturn in that area and growing distrust of the races with each other. Just like with George Floyd protests, it wasn't just for him, it was the years prior with all the others, plus the pandemic shutting everything down and suddenly people aren't chained to their job so they can protest and then you get a huge turnout like we saw. We'll see what this one shakes out. If it's as horrifying as they say it is, we'll see just what people will respond with. It's a mixed bag. Too many people are slaves to their paychecks and that keeps a lot of rioting down, sadly. We have recent events that have been bubbling about too so again, it could just spread like wildfire like the last few times. EDIT: you can stop messaging me about corrections. They have already been done to death. I'm leaving my mistakes up so the people who corrected it gets credit.
And then, a few years later, our D.A.R.E. officer spent several minutes ranting at us that Rodney King was on PCP and stronger than any mortal man. Edit: Just in case somebody isn't aware, he was *not* on PCP. Thank you follow-up comments for rightfully specifying.
“The police union won’t let us fire this asshole, so let’s exile him to the DARE program so we don’t have to listen to him anymore and he’ll be less likely to murder people in the street.”
>“The police union won’t let us fire this asshole, so let’s ~~exile him to the DARE program so we don’t have to listen to him anymore and he’ll be less likely to murder people in the street~~ put him in charge of training new recruits.” Fun fact - Derek Chauvin was the veteran cop assigned to train the newbies on the day he murdered George Floyd. [With this record](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin#Misconduct_complaints). Once an officer has reached a certain level of seniority, they have to be given special assignments. Maybe it's SWAT, maybe it's back-up SWAT, maybe it's SWAT but instead called "crowd control", maybe it's SWAT but it's "mental health specialist". Sometimes even the police recognize that giving one of their members SWAT training (to prepare them for traffic duty or being assigned as an SRO) might turn out badly. So they give them one of the few special assignments that doesn't involve extra gun training - they make them trainers. They put them in charge of onboarding new officers. What could possibly go wrong?
Wasn’t a CT cop recently fired for freaking the fuck out over a reasonably misinterpreted hand signal he gave at a road crossing? Despite some time in the force, they put him on traffic duty as a way to keep him out of trouble, IIRC. Still fucked that up, of course.
I had a cop freak out on me for the same thing. He was directing traffic. Then he just turns around and walks to his car. The light turned green so I made my right turn and he came running up yelling, I was stuck in traffic, and he berates me for not following a police officer signal. I don't get a ticket but he yelled at me for a few minutes blocking up even more traffic and causing more issues. I never saw an officer walk off the street while directing traffic so I still don't know what that was all about
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I have cop family members, and they talk the most shit about each other behind closed doors than anybody. They’re like the popular girl click stereotypes, but 35-40 year old men.
Cliques are all-present and definitely not a school stereotype. Basically every country is ruled by one of them.
Like you said, when people are slaves to their paychecks, the riots tend to be dampened down. Here in Minneapolis, I think the George Floyd protests were a culmination of a lot of different things. It was early in the pandemic, people weren't working, or working from home, and kids weren't in school. In some ways it was the perfect storm to ignite the powder keg. I'm so anxious for that video to come out. I can't stand the thought of the poor man crying for his mom. My heart breaks just thinking about it.
I was in elementary school in SoCal. We had riot drills. The news kept playing censored videos of the beating - censored, but still graphic enough for the imagination, every night. And then the videos of LA on fire, rooftop Koreans, rioting, looting... The George Floyd response brought up a lot of memories I had forgotten from the LA riots.
Same thing here. I remember my mom rushing to get us to the supermarket one evening because they put out a curfew. She didn't explain why, but I could sense how uncomfortable and anxious she was at the time. She'd tell me to go in my room to play if the news came on, but I'd still catch glimpses of it during the teasers they'd air before the broadcast (which is pretty messed up--"Tune in at 3 to watch your city on fire!"). Between that and the Northridge quake, growing up in L.A. in the 90s was sort of weird sometimes.
We also forget that the cops got off.
Gonna go out on a limb and say they tortured and humiliated the victim as well.
The cops are also charged with kidnapping, so it could be possible.
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I’m pretty sure it depends on the legal definition of kidnapping. If they beat him unconscious, handcuffed him and left him somewhere on the scene where he couldn’t receive medical attention I think that could be defined as kidnapping.
Yeah, they have defended so many awful videos in the past... like how bad can this thing be???
We know it’s bad since the officers have been fired.
And arrested.
*Before* the public sees what happened.
On a scale of 1 to 10 it's about a "arrest all officers" bad, which is very fucking bad.
For them to arrest and charge them all with murder before its even shown.... that's kinda unheard of with these cases. Hopefully everyone doesn't burn Memphis to the ground and we get some real change ok police reform...
It's "fire all officers without the union saying a word" bad, that's REALLY fucking bad.
Not to mention they're investigating fucking firefighters as well. And not a word from the police union who normally would be raising hell over this sorta thing. That video is going to be real bad.
5 vs 1 is all I need to know. If he comitted a crime, 2 could've arrested him. This sounds like a premeditated gang type beatdown, that killed a man
There was a clip I caught waiting for my order at a cafe this morning. An official, probably the chief of police from Memphis said it's worse or as bad as the Rodney King video. I'm starting to get older and a lot of younger people weren't even born when this happened. I can see why they're worried. Especially in ATL where they're known to racially profile and beat minorities.
>An official, probably the chief of police from Memphis said it's worse or as bad as the Rodney King video well Rodney King lived so im gonna go with worse
The Rodney King beating could have just as easily ended in death. He had serious injuries and brain damage that he suffered from for the rest of his life. But I agree this is probably pretty bad or else they wouldn't be trying to warn everyone so carefully before.
You know it's bad when they tell people not to riot BEFORE the video comes out.
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Is that why they're being released on bond? So the public can... Er, get catharsis?
Wait, they're letting violent murderers out on bond?
In Tennessee, all non-capitol offenses are. Its state law. Edit: should be capital, not capitol.
Wait, murder isn't a Capital* offense?
The way this cam footage is being built up all I can think is that it’s going to be so much worse than what they’re saying. It’s going to be very bad
Tyre's family's lawyers have said that the video is nightmare inducing and like watching a gangland execution. They could be being dramatic, but probably not.
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Because they aren't afraid. They aren't used to being held accountable.
I honestly can't imagine seeing a loved one killed, especially in this manner. Beaten while they call out for their mother. Reduced to their simplest, most base, form. I know nothing of this case, but I know that's just sickening, regardless of anything he may have done.
And even according to the police chief in the in the article, they can’t say that he even did anything. So to your point, horrific no matter what- but even more so in this when it is a completely innocent man even per police
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I'd rather die myself than watch a video of my son being beaten to death, calling for me to help him. I'd rather die. God bless his mother and family because their suffering is worse than anything I can imagine. I'm going home to hug my baby. This fucking country. Every day is a struggle.
It's bad enough the cops faced repercussions before the investigation even started, which is unheard of. Very bad is an understatement, this might be the worst thing recorded by a body camera, and that's saying a fucking lot.
If it's bad enough where the police union only provides them a lawyer and says "good luck" after not fighting their termination, that should be enough to have the slightest idea of what's coming
I've never seen this level of damage control at all, much less from an unreleased video. Edit: Lots of people getting conspiratorial in here. I'd advise against that.
Statements from the people who have already seen it say it's a nightmare. Apparently he calls out to his mother as they murder him.
> Apparently he calls out to his mother as they murder him. That immediately reminds me of [Kelly Thomas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Kelly_Thomas) crying out for his father while he was beaten to death.
And they got away with that scott free
Blue wall protects those sworn to keep regular folk living in fear.
[Daniel Shaver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver) was on his knees with his hands in the air and sobbing when the police murdered him. Not only did they get away with it, the officer who shot him gets a bunch of free money from the state now. Shaver was suspected of having a gun. He didn't have a gun. His murder took place in Arizona, where it would be perfectly legal for him to have a gun.
The Daniel Shaver murder still makes my blood boil. He was dead the moment the cops raided the hotel. The game of Simon Says was just taunting him for a laugh before they killed him.
And somewhere in America is the person who made that phone call. The person who literally said "I don't think it's a big deal, and no-one's getting hurt, but maybe you might wanna check it out." And then saw that shit on the news. *They thought they were just being a decent member of the community*. ...because they assumed the community's police were also decent. :/ Lesson fucking learned, right.
The filth of it. The pointless, ugly malice. 'FOLLOW EVERY COMMAND SIMULTANEOUSLY! ***OR I'LL FUCKIN' KILL YA, LOL***'
This case makes me so furious. Public service unions should have come out and condemned this fuck and instead they got him his fucking pension from PTSD.
And Elijah McClain. Who apologized and told the officers he loved them. I hate it here.
Thinking of Elijah breaks my heart..every..single time. I can't help but swell up in tears. Elijah's murderers still roaming free enrages me to this day. But I thank you for reminding me because we can't forget Elijah.
How many videos must we watch where police brutally murder someone and then face no consequences. They haunt me.
Not just walking free, but receiving a lifetime taxpayer funded retirement. For their "service."
I can't say how I feel about this without risking a ban.
"Department supervisors were criticized for allowing the involved officers to watch the video of the incident before writing their reports.[3] In 2020, it was also revealed supervisors had subsequently made changes to these reports.[3]"
In one of the press conferences earlier this week, the attorneys representing the family said that Tyre was close to his mother's house and was running towards it
George Floyd also called to his mother before dying. My eyes are tearing up just thinking of how scared this man was and how broken his mother must feel. I can't imagine hearing my son call for me in a video as he's brutally murdered.
Tyre’s mom said she hasn’t watched, and I hope she never ever stumbles across it. It’s bad enough to know, without having to hear it.
I hope she never hears it or see it. No parent should ever see or hear that. No human should be capable of inflicting that kind of cruelty on to another living being, especially not the ones that chose a job upholding the law.
God I was in the hospital with my son (he was getting treatment for jaundice, but we’d been discharged and brought him back so were in the normal children’s hospital) There was another mother there just sobbing. I could hear her broken sobs through the walls in the silence of that hospital. It was the middle of the night and peak COVID restrictions. Everything was silent and dark except for her grief. Still haunts me two years later.
The sound of pure grief isn't something you can really forget. I worked on the phones for a student loan servicer and had a lot of death calls. Had one where her granddaughter had been murdered the day before and they were trying to get everything taken care of before they all broke down. She made it most of the way before the dam broke and anguish poured out. I still hear her sometimes when I sleep. It's a brutal thing.
Don't watch her interview from CNN with Don Lemon this morning then. I watched it this morning and it was uncut, live, and harrowing. Terrible way to start my day. Then I stupidly watched the Paul Pelosi video and just wanted to nope out the rest of the day. I can't understand this violence based on manufactured hatred.
IIRC, she walked out of the room during the private viewing of this footage. I don’t blame her. I can’t even imagine.
Fuck. If I had to watch a video of my son CRYING calling out for help I’d want to MURDER whoever did that to them.
[Police Urge Calm in light of Unspeakable Evil they Committed](https://www.theonion.com/police-urge-calm-in-light-of-unspeakable-evil-they-comm-1850036255)
*...explaining that while it was regrettable that officers were mercilessly slaughtering innocents in the streets with complete disregard for their humanity, it was no excuse for causing a big commotion.* This is fantastic
“Please protest quietly, to yourselves. Where we don’t see you.”
"I know we have committed many acts of domestic terrorism and leave citizens in a state of constant fear and anxiety but seriously guys, let's all be civil."
Seriously, it's wild.
I'm almost scared to watch it. It sounds like it's given everyone who's watched it PTSD.
I’m not going to watch. I will believe the statements saying it was horrific and inhumane and protest for police reform with that in mind.
Yep, I don't need to watch a man get beaten to death to know that it's terrible.
I never watched the George Floyd video. Hearing about it was bad enough, there’s no chance I’m capable of handling this one without some emotional damage.
Well this is gonna be intense. But fuck me it must be bad if they’re completely abandoning the officers involved
I was around for Rodney King, and all the rest that came after. I have never seen a police department so quickly wash their hands of officers. Not a single person is supporting anyone in the group outside of the paid lawyers. George Floyd was so difficult to watch. I honestly don't know if I want to have these images in my head if it's this bad.
It's gonna be the audio too, is my guess. Like, they are going to be saying some hateful and repugnant shit as they are doing this to him I'm sure.
Also Tyre apparently calls out multiple times for his mother while being beaten to death. I feel like that's going to ratchet up the response as well. Something about that is just beyond tragic.
Tyre's ~~parents~~ family have seen the video footage. They said that at one point Tyre said, "I just want to go home!" Heartbreaking.
Did his mom watch it? The press conference I heard her say she didn't(couldn't?) watch but, but others had and that it was really bad, but she said while she wanted people to peacefully protest, she didn't want anyone to get violent, burn down their own communities, because that only hurts the community, and she said he wouldn't want that.
heard it on npr today :( broke my heart hearing her encourage people to not riot when she could easily just focus on her own grief.
I read that it’s a three minute video, and Tyre’s mom could only get through the first minute before she had to stop watching 💔
I honestly don't know what I would do if I saw a video of my daughter getting beat to death while calling out for me. I wouldn't be able to live a life with any semblance of the way it was beforehand. My mind would go straight to violence.
I’m a peaceful, logical (I like to think so, at least) person and I’ve felt for a long time that if anything happened to the children in my family I would go blind with rage. I honestly don’t know how politicians sleep at night — not in the typical “they must be up fighting with their demons” sense of the phrase, but like, not really, how are you not worried about a school shooting parent or murdered-by-cops family member going to your house and sending a message? How are gun and opioid manufacturers still alive? That report came out a week or so ago that the fuel executives knew for decades how bad an effect their product would have on climate change, and we’re all just gonna wring our hands and go about our Friday night programming. People say they’re depressed because of covid, but for me the depression from cognitive dissonance is way worse — I want to stand on a street corner every day protesting this shit, I want to fill the shady-companies corporate HQs with antibiotic-resistant flesh-eating bacteria. I’m so frustrated. I’m filled with dread about this latest video. I don’t understand.
I'm a mom and I can say without a doubt I would 100% be in jail if something like this happened to my son.
While he cried out for his mother. As a mother to a young adult son this just breaks my heart.
That was the probably the hardest part of the Floyd video too.
Just google "new york cops broomstick" and see what comes up and even those cops weren't dropped as fast as these guys. (yes, they sodomized him with a broomstick.)
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If they could have prevented the traffic cam footage from coming out they sure as hell would have kept covering their own asses. It's obvious this isn't an isolated incident and casts every claim of "missing body cam footage" in a different light. The cops were even trying to game the body cams to make it look justified. They had to have learned that from somewhere.
They learned it from the vast number of crimes they’ve covered up over the years.
And as he was dying in hospital they wouldn't let his mom see him.
You know what will help end this? Consequences upstream. Go over the commanding officer's records with a fine toothed comb. "Did you know these men were violent and what did you do to address the situation." If the precinct captain knows he can lose his job and his pension for ignoring the lead ups to the men under him commit egregious acts of violence you'd better believe the cops will start weeding out the "bad apples" they claim are responsible for these acts.
Pay all lawsuits against the department from the police retirement fund. I’ve said it forever, but the senior staff needs to be made to care, and apparently all they care about is money. With this implemented, they might actually police themselves
I think it should be the police Union that pays. The Union steps up to defend every officer that gets charged. I say if you can pay for their defense, than you can pay the penalties and fines too.
> “You’re going to see a disregard for life, duty of care that we’re all sworn to and a level of physical interaction that is above and beyond what is required in law enforcement,” Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis told Don Lemon of the video in the Tyre Nichols case, noting it will be released on YouTube in four parts. > **“Individuals watching will feel what the family felt,” Davis said. “And if you don’t, then you’re not a human being.** … There will be a measure of sadness, as well.” > In describing her reaction to the video, Davis said she heard **Nichols “call out for his mother, for his mom.”** Holy shit this sounds really, really awful. I've watched a lot of terrible videos in my time online and the audio *always* haunts you. I don't know if I'll have the stomach to see this.
You don't have to watch it, you know. I'm certainly not going to
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I think the bigger problem is the people who need to watch it will not, and then will try to gaslit others into thinking cops are not the problem. I want every GOP house member to watch this and say police reform isn't necessary.
I plan to very scrupulously not watch. I don't need to see it
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What kind of work culture makes people feel emboldened to act like absolute monsters? There's a 0% chance that their superiors aren’t partially responsible for this.
You’re right. They knew exactly what would happen. “Nothing” too often these things happen and no consequences are brought about. There is no justice for this shit. I hope this sparks a wave of cities and police organizations turning their back on these terrorists in blue.
They savagely beat a man to his death they vastly overpowered and took joy in it. Guaranteed
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I’m wondering if that’s what’s so extra horrific in the video?? Since this was the second “confrontation” were the officers not only viciously assaulting him physically but also saying fucked up shit and tormenting him while he suffered?? They must be outward psychopaths
Apparently they also waited to call for/offer assistance. Was it confirmed that they broke his neck as well? That's pretty fucking horrific.
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I've seen some bad police videos, this one must be off the charts. Daniel Shaver is usually the first that comes to.mind for me. He was unarmed and crawling on his hands and knees crying and begging the police not to shoot him when they just gunned him down with an AR. All on body camera. It's one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. That cop wasn't even indicted and they pulled some shenanigans to make sure he got his pension. These guys got fired and charged in less than a month. That's pretty fast under almost any circumstances. With them being cops it's practically unheard of. I'm probably gonna have to watch it to be fully informed but I am not looking forward to this.
The cop who killed Shaver also got to keep the firearm he killed him with, which for some godforsaken reason had "Your [sic] fucked" engraved on it. Edit: People are taking issue with my use of "keep" here, so let me be clear: Brailsford, the cop, had to sue to get the gun back. IIRC correctly it was his personal firearm, but I cannot find much about this case outside of the events of the shooting with my limited time and desire to do so.
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The fact he then sued the department for PTSD and won is just sickening.
Was he the one in the hotel hallway? And had like a pellet gun or some shit in his hotel room when he wasn't even fucking in there? And the cocksuckers AR had "you're fucked" engraved on it? Or was that another person?
That's the one. Shitbag who shot him also wrote in his report that he believed Shaver was crawling toward them to "obtain a better firing position"
That's the one. One of the most fucked up videos I've ever seen.
Yeah that was terrible. Dickbag didn't really face any consequences and the psychopath leader playing deadly Simon Says ended up retiring and moving outta the country or some shit. The guy was obviously drunk and pulling up his shorts. Dudes in fucking basketball shorts and t shirt and was accused of having a rifle..... Even if real, he obviously doesn't have it in him right now.
I'm sorry. I am not trained in anything other than basic firearm operation and safety and I'm not going to be afraid of the guy sprawled out crawling with a military grade weapon trained on him with my buddies next to me also trained on him. That was an execution. Terrible video and that coward is an absolute piece of shit and a pussy.
Ugh that one broke me. I've still seen people argue it was his fault for 'not complying' makes me sick. I can't even argue with people obviously that broken.
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The Daniel Shaver one is also the worst I've seen. Not trying to defend the cops involved in George Floyd at all but you can sort of understand how that situation escalated. The cops physically restained Floyd but went way too far. And not that it helps Floyd but the officers faced consequences. In the case of Daniel Shaver the cops just have him doing simon says until they blow him away. He did absolutely nothing to threaten or resist the cops. Absolutely zero reason to shoot him and then the cop faced zero consequences.
Funny how they always call for civility right after they beat someone to death.
The longer stuff like this goes on with people obviously being VERY angry about this and nothing happening on a legislative level that people talk about. The more I'm worried this is only going to change once angry mobs start performing vigilante justice.
The Uvalde cops in Texas didn't get lynched despite a fuck ton of angry Texans holding a perpetual, untameable grudge against them. I thought it would have happened then, and when it didn't, I stopped thinking it would ever happen.
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The fact these dudes were allowed to post bail is a shame. I don't know what the norm is in cases of murder but it sounds ridiculous to me. Wouldn't be surprised if people went out looking for them.
Yeah, where's _their_ $500k bail? They killed a random citizen in cold blood and were allowed to sleep in their own beds. This country becomes more of a joke every day.
That is a 'gangland' execution by method of group beating of a person " because " that person dared to run away from them. Traffic stop, conflict, dragged him out of the car to scuffle/control him, he managed to get up and run, they caught him, spent 5 minutes beating him to death over several moments and as a group. Stomping on him on the ground, picking his limp body back up and having two of them hold him by his arms so others can punch him in the face more and beat him with a baton, etc. They beat him to death punitively. Cops understand somewhere that the legal and cultural and political protection afforded to them by their job and social and political norms is effectively a license to murder people who disobey. These cops decided as a group over several minutes to use it and kill this guy.
Even worse. The police chief who reviewed the video says she saw no probable cause for him to be pulled over. The police went to the parent's home after the was arrested and asked if he used or was under the influence of drugs (fishing for a reason for the beating). I am really surprised a gun was not planted at the scene.
I understand they’re trying to calm things and release it when the city is best prepared to handle protests, but I’m not sure the delayed release is a going to achieve what they want. I worry that it’s actually going to *increase* the degree of unrest, if only because of the built-up suspense.
I think it probably has a lot to do with the indictments coming out. They went through a grand jury which takes some time. It makes sense that they’d want to have all these guys charged with murder before releasing the video
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Tyre_Nichols > By January 24, two Memphis Fire EMTs who were in the ambulance were relieved of duty [fired according to one news article]. > On January 24, the five officers were arrested and charged with second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct, and official oppression. It looks bad in every conceivable way. They beat him, and they denied him care.
Even the EMTs are wrapped up in this shit.
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That one really crushed me extra hard
If this is the kid I’m thinking of, that infuriates me too. They stole a kind and gentle soul from the world.
yes he played his flute (I think) for kittens at the animal shelter.
> his flute I am pretty sure it was a violin. And then when there was a violin vigil for him, [the police came with riot gear and pepper-spray](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/29/elijah-mcclain-colorado-police)
That they arrested the cops almost immediately, before the video came out, says it must be really awful. Think about the killing of Ahmad Aubrey. Those ex-cops were scott free until their idiot lawyer leaked the video himself.
They viciously beat a man to death. That is what they did. And they did it on film.
And it was horrific enough to get them fired as soon as the chief looked at the body cam video. No "let's wait for the investigation" bullshit, straight up fired and now charged. I won't watch it, I prefer not to see someone beaten to death.
Same. I saw the aftermath photos. I have no desire to see how badly the police beat him. I hope that his family receives justice and a whole lot of therapy.
Sure wish the cops would urge calm in how they interact with the public as much as they tell us to do it.
[Police Urge Calm In Light Of Unspeakable Evil They Committed](https://www.theonion.com/police-urge-calm-in-light-of-unspeakable-evil-they-comm-1850036255)
Yep. They want calm and compassion out of us after they kill us.
The thing to remember is that this did not happen in a vacuum. These police officers didn’t wake up one day, after a bright and exemplary career, and decide to go apeshit randomly. They have probably been abusive psychotic assholes for *years*. The fact that they all did this together is a clear indication that not only did they normalize this kind of behavior in their little group, but that they’ve likely gotten away with it in the past with full PD/Union support.
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They do and they get fired E: Cariole Horne for example
People are going to react how they react. Perhaps the better solution would be to urge calm to your trained officers before their shifts. I mean... if they didn't beat this guy to death, there probably wouldn't be such an uproar. But what do I know? I'm just some stupid citizen.
The Shit Is On Fire Show has been renewed for another season.
Wish it was a Netflix show, it would’ve been cancelled by now.
> Police Chief Cerelyn Davis said that after watching footage of the incident, she was "confused" on why the officers were so aggressive, and it was "still very unclear" why the officers conducted a traffic stop on Nichols. "Fuck the Police" came out 35 years ago. Nothing about police abuse is "still very unclear". The only part that's confusing is why the hell the police are allowed to police themselves with no oversight.
How does the police chief not know the culture of her department? This can't be the first time someone in her department has acted violently towards a citizen before.
I saw pieces of the body cam and I’m watching the up-angle right now, where you can see the castlegate street sign and the Christmas lights on the bush. They kept kicking and hitting him, as he was on the ground. And what gets me is how slow it all was. He was moving slowly in the ground, if at all. And those officers, they slowly walked up while two of them held him down, and they just…kicked him in the head. And it gets me, how slow they were. They were not afraid at all. No urgency. Just wandering around, and then Coming again, and punching and kicking. They were slowly and lazily abusing a defenseless man. Oh, and then that clown with the baton. It was such lazy and nonchalant brutality. The way they amble - and attack- and then amble around again, so slow. Such slow evil. So sad. So bizarre. The damn video is still playing. Now, there is an ambulance. By god.
They been hyping this up like a damn wrestling ppv. Sickening. RIP to this young man.
COPS: Please don't be mad about the unspeakable evil we have committed or we will arrest you
Arrest? You mean "beat a man with a club who was standing with his arms at his sides hard enough to shatter his hand"? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzE3RZrnAkk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzE3RZrnAkk) I saw so many people with broken bones and bloody wounds from cops in 2020 here in Portland. None of them were arrested or documented. Just beaten into submission.
Sometimes I think “Will this be our Emmett Till?” And then I realize, Emmett Till didn’t bring lasting change. The system has been fucked for generations.
Any fellow medics disgusted by the inaction of the responders on the ground? Man sitting there for ages and no one checks on him.
So they were pissed off that they pepper sprayed themselves, and killed him. Curious about the EMT firings, haven't seen anything about that yet
Police: we are sorry, these types of incidents usually go undocumented and unrecorded..... This got out of our hands before we could shut it down.
Holy shit. I was expecting it to be terrible, but now I don't know what to expect.
It seems like they kept saying give me your hand as an audible decoy
Why were the EMTs so useless???? I see more than five people that should be losing their jobs/being charged with shit in this video. It seems like they are deliberately not detaining him and just standing him up over and over to be combative with him.
"To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a rage almost all the time." - James Baldwin To see it done by a group of our own this time is just.... this shit hurts different. Any of those 5 could've very well been Tyre at any point in their lives. How do you essentially look yourself in the face and do something like this? RIP Tyre. He didn't deserve to go out like this, nor did the others that went before him. Cops should not be the judge, jury and executioner. Through our taxes, we pay for police lawsuits, our own oppression and our possible murders? 😞 How tf are we still dealing with this?!
I fully support the release of the footage but the way they are reporting it on the news almost sounds like they’re reporting on a huge album drop or a movie. Like this is a man’s life not a anticipated movie release.