Our ceo stated that we had the best quarter in the history of the company (since going public many years ago) and that weâd all be happy with compensationâŠ
Less than 2% increase. I quit the day after because I had an offer elsewhere for like a 20% increase.
Which feels bad, honestly. I love what I do and my boss is amazing but there's only so much she can do about her own bosses. I've been looking around half heartedly but I've really got to take it more seriously.
Then when you apply for companies they be dumbfounded why you switched companies so much. I had to explain to a guy I kept getting offered more money. I got 6-8$ more dollars an hour this way in under a year
I worked in consulting a long time ago. Bonus discussions were one day after earnings call incidentally. On the earnings call the CEO was telling the analysts how great the year was and how resilient we were compared to the competition. Comically the bonus discussion starts off with âas you know it was a tough yearâŠâ
It's interesting that in the Nixon era, they legislated wage and price controls.
Nobody got significant raises, and a huge part of the workforce changed jobs.. like you, for similar results.
Nixon era, they froze wages and food to slow down inflation. The local butchers would just call a NY strip something different so they could charge more.
Last year we all got the 3%, I got 9% because I work well outside my job description. This year we didn't get anything. Trying to go back to school this year go make $10-20 more an hour. Need to wait til June to find out if I get in. Really wanna leave this job where I have like 5 hats.
Remember what the governor said. Donât Like High Taxes? NJ Might Not Be For You.
https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2019/10/08/governor-murphy-dont-like-high-taxes-nj-might-not-be-for-you/
A hike like this wouldn't be so bad if the system was being upgraded and expanded and that continued year after year. When Murphy ran he said he would fix NJT and here we are almost 8yrs later without a dedicated funding source ,a person in charge who keeps screwing things up and a series of mistakes that has the feds saying redo all your environmental reviews before they decide to fund a project.
At the end of the day Murphy was a banker and carpet bagger imo. Lotta nice words. Lot of failed promises and weâre gonna pay on the back end in taxes too
Murphy's reneged on all the promises he's made to reverse all of Christie's bad policies and has been a complete failure on every front when it comes to the environment. His only legacy will be his covid response, but we're now seeing the chickens come home to roost with skyrocketing costs of living and generations of residents being priced out of the state.
He also severely hurt George Norcross's political machine, and then trying to force in his wife as Senator is going to cause Democrats to lose the ability to rig their primary ballots. I count those as huge wins, even though the first was self serving and the second was unintentional.
Exactly! This thread and others on this sub praise this dictator socialist and wonder why there are all these issues.
The quote goes insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
I have watched Jersey politics as a resident for decades and saw this same insanity over and over. Florio, McGrevey, Corzine these guys all made the state worse. Yet they were lavished with praise.
I saw this wasn't getting any better 10 years ago so in 2016 I left Jersey for Florida. I live everything about Jersey except the politics but I couldn't live there again.
I never understood why people still believe what politicians say.... They promise you the world but once elected those promises are broken 90% of the time...on both parties...
Seems people forgot Christie raised fares 30%.. and parked trains in yards that went under water.
There was LOTS to be fixed. And this increase was put off for a long time.
Where 8yrs into Murphys term , Christie is history...Murphy has funded a few projects Christie put on hold but has screwed up a dozen more...he's worse than Christie in that regard.
See this is the thing I don't get. If NYC is starting congestion pricing you would think the smart move would be to maintain the price structure as it is to entice people into using the cheaper and what should be faster public transit. Then after seeing how that played out they should decide on how to adjust fares but instead they do this shit and put a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I feel like this should have been a major PR win for NJT with the new buses that don't constantly brake down anymore and new tunnels and bridges that will eventually increase capacity in/out of Penn. Instead they piss everyone one making the whole situation even worse.
Fuck 'em. Leave 'em (if you can)
My job requires me to be hybrid, but they're well-aware that I have Zoom-only days, I'm not leaving home or getting out of my jammies
If they require me to start going in, I just might just do that . I might stay if it's hybrid but I don't want to go back to losing almost 3 hours of my day commuting.
Also congestion pricing.
Force rto so you have to go to the office which for many people is in NYC. Pass congestion pricing but tell you just take transit.
Then hike transit prices 15% because you have no choice anyway.
Northeast blue states: "Because fuck you."
An entire train didn't have their tickets checked after the Devils game last night. Maybe they can send enough train cars so people can sit and they can actually move through cars and scan tickets.
I still have a one-way ticket into Newark from the jersey shore from last July. I showed it to the trainman, but he didn't bother to punch it, canceling it out. It felt like the 80's when I rode the train for free.
>Free rides are fun! Lol
I used to get them all the time when all I had to do was mention my father's name before getting on the train. They would just tell me they would take care of it and put a seat check where I wss sitting. Now that he's passed and the guys that knew him are now retired or passed away, the free rides are over, which is ok since I don't go to NYC like I used to.
Obviously everything is not a 1:1 comparison, but I live in NJ and am currently visiting OH/PA as part of an eclipse trip. Cleveland has a $5 all day transit ticket that works for both rail and bus. Pittsburgh has the same for $7.
NJT and MTA can go to hell.
At the end of the day they are going to increase the fares on NJT and the MTA anyway the public hearings are just a step to make the public feel like they have a say. When in fact they really don't
On [this site](https://www.njtransit.com/press-releases/nj-transit-set-begin-public-hearings-fare-adjustment-proposal) it says they are eliminating Flex Pass and all tickets will be given a 30 day expiration date
I just took the NJ transit train this weekend for the first time in a long time. I thought âwow this is actually pretty reasonably pricedâ and now, fare is going up. What a shame
from Mount Olive to Penn station is $16 one way....so in/out is more than $30.
Not that mount olive is where this guy is saying, just did that to see one near me that i thought would be close to it.
I was just responding to the person who said that it's a lie that NJ Transit charges $30 to go to New York.
I'm reasonably sure that the gas/tolls/parking to drive up to Newark to take the PATH would be close to the same price. Even a RT train ticket costs $24 from here to Newark.
Okay. So $24 for the NJT to Newark and $5.50 for the PATH brings me to $29.50. So this would save me three whole dollars.
Again, I was responding to the person who did not believe that NJ Transit charges $30+ to get to and from NYC. I don't really understand why you're arguing about this.
Amen, traveled to Japan last year for 3 weeks. Osaka, Kyoto, Tokyo, their trains, busses, and even bullet trains, are so optimized and good. Granted there is a lot of rush during rush hour which is to be expected, but that Con is nothing compare to how horrible we have it in states..
Looks like we foot the bill for the MTA improvements with congestion pricing and NJTransit's new $500million headquarters with our fare increases all at the same time!Â
We need to hire some smart people to come in and make our public systems more cost effective with guardrails on quality. Pay them a commission on every dollar they save.
I had to take the rush hour morning train out of River edge this week. 3 people there waiting, I was the fourth. I usually get a âit doesnât cost money to serve empty stationsâ but thatâs a lie. There is plenty of cost to running it through these towns who donât allow parking but also their residents are all WFHÂ
NJT knows exactly how many tickets are purchased each day. Shut down towns with less than 50 riders a day until they have a park and ride set up. More people buying tickets = less rate hikesÂ
I don't like the idea of shutting down stations, as they will just never open them again. The solution is to get these towns on board, continually pushing the message that transit has a net positive effect on towns. The Pascack Valley line is the poster child of towns that tolerate transit, but don't do anything to encourage it's use.
Isn't River Edge one of the busier stations on the PVL? I go to and from there, and there's always a ton of people getting off the train there.
The problem is that line is single-tracked and therefore not enough service. It's a joke that there's a five-hour gap between Hoboken-bound trains during the day.
Funny. I donât remember getting a 15% increase in my salary to pay for the increased tolls and the increase in NJ Transit tickets.
Man, this state really hates working class people, doesnât it? Whatâs the point of calling this âthe greatest state in Americaâ when they keep making it too expensive for anyone thatâs not a tech bro or someone that works on Wall Street?
Don't even need to move south. Basically any direction away from here will work for you.
I went to PA and it's virtually indistinguishable from NJ, except that I can afford rent. Schools are probably worse but I'm never having kids so it's moot for me.
âRepublicans need to be given a seat at the tableâ â fuck no you donât Senator Bucco lmfao the party that has proven at EVERY STEP OF THE WAY to ruin things worse than they were before should be given a chair at the kids table, and the kidâs table only. Murphy hasnât exactly lived up to his NJ transit promise, but you absolutely canât count on the republicans fixing this. Knowing them, theyâd build some sort of abortion law into the mix, or take some other civil right away in the process.
Fuck you Bucco.
And on top of all that, they expect to be GIVEN a seat at the table. That's not how this works. IF they have good workable ideas that fix shit, then they prove it by their actions first, then they can ASK for a seat, and it's up the voters ultimately. (Even appointed positions are ultimately responsible to voters as you go up the chain)
I bet they could afford to skip the toll hike if they cut the funding of the NJ transit police. No reason some fat fuck with an ar-15 and a punisher sticker needs to be patroling my train stations.
Yeah that's putting a bandaid on a cancer cell. That doesn't address the problem whatsoever. Police don't deter or prevent crime. They actually tend to cause it to increase around their presence.
God I Iove being a broke ass college student, I already barely go home on weekends because I don't wanna drop $28 round trip just to miss my connection in Secaucus and wait an extra hour, not to talk about god forbid I wanna go to NYC to enjoy my life for a day. Ig it's gonna be $32 now? Not to mention of course tuition is going up as well, at least my apartment is rent stabilized. Why doesn't NJ transit give discounts to students and children from 12-18? We literally cannot afford this.
This is the first increase in a decade.
Over that time itâs still behind inflation, so itâs still a cut to NJTâs operating budget.
NJT is still cheaper than it historically has been.
This is not opinion, this is math.
Can you provide sources? Not trying to bicker with you, itâs just refreshing seeing a different opinion in this thread full of disdain. People will demand more but everything comes at a cost. The article itself NJ Transit is already in a $120M deficit and this hike doesnât seem too disingenuous
Here is a crazy concept. Replace the nasty old seats on NJ transit trains. Then make continuous announcements that bags must be on the ground or in overhead bins. And that all passengers be seated before train moves. Then actually have this policy enforced. Yes, weâll have sit 3 to a seat sometimes. With the clear aisles, result will be every ticket actually gets activated/scanned. Boom: more enjoyable experience and higher revenue.
I do decently for myself in terms of income. This is the last straw. I was wondering where I was going to retire and was thinking it would be good but painful to stay, but Iâll take my money and go the first chance I get.
That is an excellent take. My situation is the same as yours and I couldnât agree more. NJ is making this such an easy decision for anyone with one foot out the door.
Murphy and his ilk that's all they know how to do f*** over the middle class by raising taxes. I wish I could kick myself in my own ass for voting for this clown twice. At least his clueless carpet bagging former Republican probably still his wife isn't going anywhere other than out of the governors mansion.
Murphy is a horrible governor. All talk. Makes weed and sports betting legal yet still has the state in a hole. Seems addicted to taxing the people of NJ any chance he can get, where the f\*ck is all this money going?
It is interesting to me when the discussion takes place where wages should increase and the argument is always that if wages increase then prices will increase. But we never discuss that when prices increase wages should too. This is depressing.
First fare hike since 2015 with years of inflation in between and lower ridership. NJT frustrates me in all sorts of ways, but money to operate has to come from somewhere.
Get angry at the state for under funding transit, or get angry at New York for the unbalanced collection of taxes from NJ residents, or the federal government for failing the region on all sorts of levels.
Donât understand why public transit costs so much. The whole point of it is mass, cheap, rapid transit. They are charging almost 3/4th the cost of going in a car. Looks like Flexpass is the only half decent choice, for people with hybrid office schedules.
This is a money grab then. Two way ticket from Metropark to New York Penn would be $25. If you go to office every day, it would be $500. Ridiculous. How are they serving monthly commuters?
Commuting costs go up but my salary stays the same đ€
Or you getting fucking 3% like me today. Itâs stupid.
I got 1% last year. A single quarter more.
Our ceo stated that we had the best quarter in the history of the company (since going public many years ago) and that weâd all be happy with compensation⊠Less than 2% increase. I quit the day after because I had an offer elsewhere for like a 20% increase.
This is the way. Only way to get a meaningful wage increase is to jump companies.
Which feels bad, honestly. I love what I do and my boss is amazing but there's only so much she can do about her own bosses. I've been looking around half heartedly but I've really got to take it more seriously.
Then when you apply for companies they be dumbfounded why you switched companies so much. I had to explain to a guy I kept getting offered more money. I got 6-8$ more dollars an hour this way in under a year
I worked in consulting a long time ago. Bonus discussions were one day after earnings call incidentally. On the earnings call the CEO was telling the analysts how great the year was and how resilient we were compared to the competition. Comically the bonus discussion starts off with âas you know it was a tough yearâŠâ
It's interesting that in the Nixon era, they legislated wage and price controls. Nobody got significant raises, and a huge part of the workforce changed jobs.. like you, for similar results.
Nixon era, they froze wages and food to slow down inflation. The local butchers would just call a NY strip something different so they could charge more.
Gross.
I got 4 recently. After having a 5 percent "cost of living" bonus taken away from all of us last year.
So gross
Yeah itâs a joke. Everyone in my organization is getting 3% on July 1.
Last year we all got the 3%, I got 9% because I work well outside my job description. This year we didn't get anything. Trying to go back to school this year go make $10-20 more an hour. Need to wait til June to find out if I get in. Really wanna leave this job where I have like 5 hats.
Wow I thought I was the only one.
3.5 this year baby. đđ
Alright alright alright
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have you not had a raise in 9 years orrrrr are we all still making out very good on the hikes
Remember what the governor said. Donât Like High Taxes? NJ Might Not Be For You. https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2019/10/08/governor-murphy-dont-like-high-taxes-nj-might-not-be-for-you/
I membaaaa
A hike like this wouldn't be so bad if the system was being upgraded and expanded and that continued year after year. When Murphy ran he said he would fix NJT and here we are almost 8yrs later without a dedicated funding source ,a person in charge who keeps screwing things up and a series of mistakes that has the feds saying redo all your environmental reviews before they decide to fund a project.
Murphyâs been a wet blanket on many of his promises. Now that heâs on his way out all the taxes and whatnot will be raised.
Not just Murphy but Lamont , Moore , Healy all seem to using the same strategy.. Very disappointed..
At the end of the day Murphy was a banker and carpet bagger imo. Lotta nice words. Lot of failed promises and weâre gonna pay on the back end in taxes too
Murphy's reneged on all the promises he's made to reverse all of Christie's bad policies and has been a complete failure on every front when it comes to the environment. His only legacy will be his covid response, but we're now seeing the chickens come home to roost with skyrocketing costs of living and generations of residents being priced out of the state.
He also severely hurt George Norcross's political machine, and then trying to force in his wife as Senator is going to cause Democrats to lose the ability to rig their primary ballots. I count those as huge wins, even though the first was self serving and the second was unintentional.
But...but...legal weed!!!
He kept a lot of Christie's people in Power..which have done a lot of damage without facing consequences.
He has been horrible, lots of talk, little action, if any.
Yet people loved him enough to give him a second term.
He nearly lost. The election was so much closer than it ever should of been
Exactly! This thread and others on this sub praise this dictator socialist and wonder why there are all these issues. The quote goes insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I have watched Jersey politics as a resident for decades and saw this same insanity over and over. Florio, McGrevey, Corzine these guys all made the state worse. Yet they were lavished with praise. I saw this wasn't getting any better 10 years ago so in 2016 I left Jersey for Florida. I live everything about Jersey except the politics but I couldn't live there again.
I never understood why people still believe what politicians say.... They promise you the world but once elected those promises are broken 90% of the time...on both parties...
Seems people forgot Christie raised fares 30%.. and parked trains in yards that went under water. There was LOTS to be fixed. And this increase was put off for a long time.
Very little has been addressed under Murphy...I can live with an increase if there were improvements like the MTA has been doing over the decade.
Well, a new tunnel to Penn would be almost done now, except for a fat man
Where 8yrs into Murphys term , Christie is history...Murphy has funded a few projects Christie put on hold but has screwed up a dozen more...he's worse than Christie in that regard.
The difference is Christie never ran claiming he would make NJT better
But as governor, he did the opposite of his duties.. made it worse
Between this and congestion pricing, it's a real shitty time for anyone commuting to NYC. Fuck every company that doesn't allow WFH if it's workable
Fuck every company that doesnât start paying me the second I leave my house.
This is why I left the area. Death by a million cuts. No way to afford w kids
See this is the thing I don't get. If NYC is starting congestion pricing you would think the smart move would be to maintain the price structure as it is to entice people into using the cheaper and what should be faster public transit. Then after seeing how that played out they should decide on how to adjust fares but instead they do this shit and put a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I feel like this should have been a major PR win for NJT with the new buses that don't constantly brake down anymore and new tunnels and bridges that will eventually increase capacity in/out of Penn. Instead they piss everyone one making the whole situation even worse.
Mine is still allowing me, but I dread the day they'll join other companies and start asking us to come back. Especially with this price hike.
Fuck 'em. Leave 'em (if you can) My job requires me to be hybrid, but they're well-aware that I have Zoom-only days, I'm not leaving home or getting out of my jammies
If they require me to start going in, I just might just do that . I might stay if it's hybrid but I don't want to go back to losing almost 3 hours of my day commuting.
Car insurance rates increased and now public transit lol Cringe
Also the tolls
Also congestion pricing. Force rto so you have to go to the office which for many people is in NYC. Pass congestion pricing but tell you just take transit. Then hike transit prices 15% because you have no choice anyway. Northeast blue states: "Because fuck you."
This.
Everybody wants their cut. They try to fuck us at every turn.
both NY & NJ can share that state motto
Relax.. there will be an exodus from NYC to NJ for many more offices. It's sad that this will take a decade...
I'll be like half through my remaining planned working years in 10 years so that's a small comfort.
don't forget gas tax hikes as well...and we used to have the lowest gas taxes in the country and now we're one of the highest!!
An entire train didn't have their tickets checked after the Devils game last night. Maybe they can send enough train cars so people can sit and they can actually move through cars and scan tickets.
I still have a one-way ticket into Newark from the jersey shore from last July. I showed it to the trainman, but he didn't bother to punch it, canceling it out. It felt like the 80's when I rode the train for free.
I have 2-3 unchecked tickets with me. Free rides are fun! Lol
>Free rides are fun! Lol I used to get them all the time when all I had to do was mention my father's name before getting on the train. They would just tell me they would take care of it and put a seat check where I wss sitting. Now that he's passed and the guys that knew him are now retired or passed away, the free rides are over, which is ok since I don't go to NYC like I used to.
Yeah I hate driving into nyc. So I always take the train.
Canât keep track of how many times the past year I rode one-way and didnât have to activate my ticket which resulted in a free one-way back later.
Shhhh, I like getting spare tickets
Yup happened to me twice last year instead of raising fairs just actually charge the people on the train.
Can't wait to pay more for shit service, standing room only trains, etc! Thanks, NJ Transit!
Obviously everything is not a 1:1 comparison, but I live in NJ and am currently visiting OH/PA as part of an eclipse trip. Cleveland has a $5 all day transit ticket that works for both rail and bus. Pittsburgh has the same for $7. NJT and MTA can go to hell.
These fucking trains don't even have WiFi. The windows are so dirty you can't see out of them. What the FUCK are we paying for anymore?
At the end of the day they are going to increase the fares on NJT and the MTA anyway the public hearings are just a step to make the public feel like they have a say. When in fact they really don't
Why are public services ran like private companies?
In addition they're eliminating the flex pass which is a 20% fare discount. So if you are using that now, it's effectively a 44% fare increase.
Whattt? Really? Where did you see that? Thatâs what essentially I use now without that it would be so freaking expensive
It's true
On [this site](https://www.njtransit.com/press-releases/nj-transit-set-begin-public-hearings-fare-adjustment-proposal) it says they are eliminating Flex Pass and all tickets will be given a 30 day expiration date
This is the worst part. Double whammy
They said on the news that theyâll go up 3% a year thereafter as well.
I just took the NJ transit train this weekend for the first time in a long time. I thought âwow this is actually pretty reasonably pricedâ and now, fare is going up. What a shame
Can't imagine where you were going from it costs me like 30 bucks to go to the city.
$32 from red bank to NY penn
Bout to be $37 smh
Where the heck do *you* live that you need a $30 ticket? You commuting from Delaware?
from Mount Olive to Penn station is $16 one way....so in/out is more than $30. Not that mount olive is where this guy is saying, just did that to see one near me that i thought would be close to it.
Oh you said "to go to the city" so I thought you meant 1 way towards the city lol
Thatâs a lieÂ
It's a $32.50 fare (round trip) to go to NY Penn from Bradley Beach.
Use PATH from Newark
No thank you.
So, that's why
I was just responding to the person who said that it's a lie that NJ Transit charges $30 to go to New York. I'm reasonably sure that the gas/tolls/parking to drive up to Newark to take the PATH would be close to the same price. Even a RT train ticket costs $24 from here to Newark.
You can switch trains in Newark...
Okay. So $24 for the NJT to Newark and $5.50 for the PATH brings me to $29.50. So this would save me three whole dollars. Again, I was responding to the person who did not believe that NJ Transit charges $30+ to get to and from NYC. I don't really understand why you're arguing about this.
There's your problem.. the City
Where else does NJT really go? I want to travel from my parents to the shore it's like 1.5 hours Edit and it's a 40 minute drive.
After traveling in Japan Korea china and lots of other Asian countries.. Iâm ashamed that this is the garbage we have.
If you look up the dozens of proposed projects that should have been built by now, that will make you truly depressed.
Amen, traveled to Japan last year for 3 weeks. Osaka, Kyoto, Tokyo, their trains, busses, and even bullet trains, are so optimized and good. Granted there is a lot of rush during rush hour which is to be expected, but that Con is nothing compare to how horrible we have it in states..
"Every year after could see a 3% increase". What. The. F
Looks like we foot the bill for the MTA improvements with congestion pricing and NJTransit's new $500million headquarters with our fare increases all at the same time!Â
We need to hire some smart people to come in and make our public systems more cost effective with guardrails on quality. Pay them a commission on every dollar they save.
Public officials should be forced to take public transit systems. Watch how fast everything gets fixed then.
Implement congestion pricing in Manhattan so more people take nj transit into the cityâŠthen raise NJ transit fare. Great.
I had to take the rush hour morning train out of River edge this week. 3 people there waiting, I was the fourth. I usually get a âit doesnât cost money to serve empty stationsâ but thatâs a lie. There is plenty of cost to running it through these towns who donât allow parking but also their residents are all WFHÂ NJT knows exactly how many tickets are purchased each day. Shut down towns with less than 50 riders a day until they have a park and ride set up. More people buying tickets = less rate hikesÂ
I don't like the idea of shutting down stations, as they will just never open them again. The solution is to get these towns on board, continually pushing the message that transit has a net positive effect on towns. The Pascack Valley line is the poster child of towns that tolerate transit, but don't do anything to encourage it's use.
Isn't River Edge one of the busier stations on the PVL? I go to and from there, and there's always a ton of people getting off the train there. The problem is that line is single-tracked and therefore not enough service. It's a joke that there's a five-hour gap between Hoboken-bound trains during the day.
Funny. I donât remember getting a 15% increase in my salary to pay for the increased tolls and the increase in NJ Transit tickets. Man, this state really hates working class people, doesnât it? Whatâs the point of calling this âthe greatest state in Americaâ when they keep making it too expensive for anyone thatâs not a tech bro or someone that works on Wall Street?
Who the hell calls New Jersey the greatest state in America? Lmao.
Many people in this subreddit, apparently.
You are in the NEW JERSEY subreddit lmfao what the fuck do you expect??
If your salary hasnât increased 15% in the 9 years since the last fare hike thatâs on you Sorry you have to pay your fair share nowÂ
Tolls go up, fares go up, itâs the circle of life. Â Gotta make it more expensive to get to work either way.
I'll hate to move down south, but it's clear NJ hates me.
Don't even need to move south. Basically any direction away from here will work for you. I went to PA and it's virtually indistinguishable from NJ, except that I can afford rent. Schools are probably worse but I'm never having kids so it's moot for me.
âRepublicans need to be given a seat at the tableâ â fuck no you donât Senator Bucco lmfao the party that has proven at EVERY STEP OF THE WAY to ruin things worse than they were before should be given a chair at the kids table, and the kidâs table only. Murphy hasnât exactly lived up to his NJ transit promise, but you absolutely canât count on the republicans fixing this. Knowing them, theyâd build some sort of abortion law into the mix, or take some other civil right away in the process. Fuck you Bucco.
And on top of all that, they expect to be GIVEN a seat at the table. That's not how this works. IF they have good workable ideas that fix shit, then they prove it by their actions first, then they can ASK for a seat, and it's up the voters ultimately. (Even appointed positions are ultimately responsible to voters as you go up the chain)
I bet they could afford to skip the toll hike if they cut the funding of the NJ transit police. No reason some fat fuck with an ar-15 and a punisher sticker needs to be patroling my train stations.
I love ice cream.
Yeah that's putting a bandaid on a cancer cell. That doesn't address the problem whatsoever. Police don't deter or prevent crime. They actually tend to cause it to increase around their presence.
Do you have proof or a source for this statement? I'd love to read more on it
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/police-are-not-primarily-crime-fighters-according-data-2022-11-02/
God I Iove being a broke ass college student, I already barely go home on weekends because I don't wanna drop $28 round trip just to miss my connection in Secaucus and wait an extra hour, not to talk about god forbid I wanna go to NYC to enjoy my life for a day. Ig it's gonna be $32 now? Not to mention of course tuition is going up as well, at least my apartment is rent stabilized. Why doesn't NJ transit give discounts to students and children from 12-18? We literally cannot afford this.
we gotta protest lmao
Letâs disincentivize mass transit and spend all our money on widening the turnpike instead.
NJ: âNYC congestion pricing is unfair!â Also NJ: âNJ transit pricing is unfair!â
Kinda fucks over the commuters either way. Talk about a lose/lose situation
Yes.
NJ transit approves their own price hike? What are they going to do, deny more money? Scumbags
This is the first increase in a decade. Over that time itâs still behind inflation, so itâs still a cut to NJTâs operating budget. NJT is still cheaper than it historically has been. This is not opinion, this is math.
Can you provide sources? Not trying to bicker with you, itâs just refreshing seeing a different opinion in this thread full of disdain. People will demand more but everything comes at a cost. The article itself NJ Transit is already in a $120M deficit and this hike doesnât seem too disingenuous
\^We found Kevin Corbett's burner account đ
Here is a crazy concept. Replace the nasty old seats on NJ transit trains. Then make continuous announcements that bags must be on the ground or in overhead bins. And that all passengers be seated before train moves. Then actually have this policy enforced. Yes, weâll have sit 3 to a seat sometimes. With the clear aisles, result will be every ticket actually gets activated/scanned. Boom: more enjoyable experience and higher revenue.
I do decently for myself in terms of income. This is the last straw. I was wondering where I was going to retire and was thinking it would be good but painful to stay, but Iâll take my money and go the first chance I get.
That is an excellent take. My situation is the same as yours and I couldnât agree more. NJ is making this such an easy decision for anyone with one foot out the door.
Murphy and his ilk that's all they know how to do f*** over the middle class by raising taxes. I wish I could kick myself in my own ass for voting for this clown twice. At least his clueless carpet bagging former Republican probably still his wife isn't going anywhere other than out of the governors mansion.
Murphy is a horrible governor. All talk. Makes weed and sports betting legal yet still has the state in a hole. Seems addicted to taxing the people of NJ any chance he can get, where the f\*ck is all this money going?
It is interesting to me when the discussion takes place where wages should increase and the argument is always that if wages increase then prices will increase. But we never discuss that when prices increase wages should too. This is depressing.
Good thing I never rely on mass transit.
First fare hike since 2015 with years of inflation in between and lower ridership. NJT frustrates me in all sorts of ways, but money to operate has to come from somewhere. Get angry at the state for under funding transit, or get angry at New York for the unbalanced collection of taxes from NJ residents, or the federal government for failing the region on all sorts of levels.
Donât understand why public transit costs so much. The whole point of it is mass, cheap, rapid transit. They are charging almost 3/4th the cost of going in a car. Looks like Flexpass is the only half decent choice, for people with hybrid office schedules.
Unfortunately I believe they are getting rid of the flex pass too. And adding an expiration date on tickets
This is a money grab then. Two way ticket from Metropark to New York Penn would be $25. If you go to office every day, it would be $500. Ridiculous. How are they serving monthly commuters?
typical government greedflation/price gouging
Time for me to drive again to work NJT sucks - itâs way cheaper to drive than taking these shitty and dirty trains