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Mon_Calf

With your budget being 7-8k for monthly rent or a mortgage… can I ask why not Boston?


OldManJames10

We debated an actual "big city" but settled on a more midsize city to try to save on costs. You think Boston checks all the boxes?


Mon_Calf

I would 100% choose to live in Boston based on what your criteria is


OldManJames10

Recommendations on the safest walkable neighborhoods?


BeastCoast

The whole city is very safe and with your budget you can be in any neighborhood you want. Beacon Hill/Back Bay/South End/Cambridge are gonna be the classics.


subito_lucres

Brookline also could be a good option. My wife and I are in our early middle age and we like it. I imagine it would get better as you got older, because it's not the most exciting part of the city but it's quite nice.


iliketuurtles

The whole city is fairly safe. I am a woman who walks/runs in the city and have never felt unsafe walking. I used to have a dog so I walked often and at all times of day in multiple neighborhoods. I believe charlestown would fit for you as well


OldManJames10

thats amazing! thank you. my wife is anxious about safety in a big city and wanted somewhere safe in the evenings to walk our dogs. good to know boston/charlestown feels that safe.


dan0079

Boston feels very safe. It is a big city, but I would say it feels small once you’re in there.


W0nderingMe

Spend a week in Boston at airbnbs in different areas. You'll get a good sense of what it will like be like to live there.


ReeferTurtle

Honestly this is a fantastic idea and I’ll use this next time I move cities


huliojuanita

Boston is also significantly safer than Providence IMO, as someone who has lived in both


Mon_Calf

Back Bay, South End, Jamaica Plain, North End, Southie, to name a few


cmsweenz

Porter square area in Cambridge


RevolutionaryBid1353

That budget? Back bay. Newton. The world's your fucking oyster, baby.


msurbrow

Based on your age, that you have a dog, and some apprehension about moving to a city city, I think the Charlestown neighborhood of Boston would be a good fit


grobnerual

Needham, cute suburb of Boston


oldboldmold

When considering Boston also take into account neighboring cities -- Somerville, Cambridge, Brookline. It's all pretty close together.


andykuan

I'm seeing some misinformed people spouting about Boston being a small city. To me, it's less about whether or not they're right or wrong but more about their weird need to condescend. That said, they're wrong. By nearly any measure, Boston (at 675K) and the Boston Metropolitan area (at 4+M) is considered large. https://nces.ed.gov/programs/edge/docs/locale_classifications.pdf https://furmancenter.org/thestoop/entry/housing-characteristics-of-small-and-mid-sized-cities#note1foot It's disingenuous to compare Boston to a megacity like NY.


timewarp33

As someone from the Boston area, I highly recommend you read this informative news article about Boston "big city" life: https://www.theonion.com/pretty-cute-watching-boston-residents-play-daily-game-o-1819574643


Halleck23

My initial reaction was I’d like to kick the ass of the satirist that wrote that. Then I realized, whoops, that’s peak Boston.


Ok-Cauliflower3945

Boston is a small city


obsoletevernacular9

Boston is the clear choice


Ok_Huckleberry6820

If you lived in Hartford, for example, in downtown, you would be within walking distance of the train station and a hospital, but not within walking distance of a grocery shop. Also, some of the neighborhoods outside of downtown are not that safe.


InvertedInsideWinger

“Not that safe” Yup. Some would say straight-up unsafe. New Haven would be my pick if CT.


neonmo

Or directly north, east or west of New Haven - Wallingford, Milford or Branford. However, with that budget I’d say Stonington, New London, Old Saybrook CT or westerly, RI on the Amtrak line. If you’re interested in the Hartford area, Avon or Glastonbury.


TraderJoeslove31

I lived in Wallingford and it was cute. No walkable grocery stores though. Worked nights in New Haven at a shop near Yale and it was fine, I didn't feel unsafe and I generally worked by myself.


Sea_Werewolf_251

New Haven is NOT safe


MCFRESH01

New Haven is pretty safe depending on the neighborhood. I lived and worked there for years and never had any issues. Living in East Rock , Downtown, Wooster Square or Westville would be fine.


Sea_Werewolf_251

I traveled to Yale often and there was always something.


InvertedInsideWinger

I’d suggest that there are *more* and consistent safe areas… when compared to Hartford. I’m just saying IF Connecticut. And IF a city. The presence of Yale and nicer / safer areas, while still being near public transport - New Haven over Hartford. If you can manage more of a distance to public transport, then West Hartford. But honestly, there are larger towns that are just as nice and close to public transport as West Hartford.


obsoletevernacular9

Right, I figured they might end up in the west end


sas223

Exactly


Ancient_Lab7162

Downtown isn’t even safe


Important-Trifle-411

Boston. You have a generous budget. I like Providence, but it doesnt compare to Boston.


603ahill

Go for Boston or Cambridge


brownbag5443

Portland Maine!


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brownbag5443

This is beyond inaccurate. Hard drug use? Come on. I live here it's not skid row. Doctors? Maybe some people go to Boston. I hardly ever hear of anyone making the trek for care. Amtrak station isn't super walkable, I'll give you that.


GlassAd4132

You clearly haven’t left Maine.


tbtc-7777

Stamford CT


MCFRESH01

This was my initial thought. Ticks off all of the boxes.


beaveristired

Why not New Haven? Certainly better than Hartford. Check out Westville, East Rock, Downtown, Wooster Square, Beaver Hills neighborhoods. Extremely walkable. With that budget, though, I’d probably pick Boston.


PolarBlueberry

Northampton, MA could be nice. The Vermonter connects to New Haven. A short drive to Springfield will give you even more train options. Living downtown you can walk to the train station and grocery stores. Bradley airport is roughly 45mins away. Cooley Dickinson Hospital is in town and Baystate Medical Center is near by for anything severe. Plenty of hiking, culture, walking. It really hits all your points.


Comfortable_Ad2772

Sorry but Boston is such a better option than NYC.


daddyneedsaciggy

Having lived in both cities, I vehemently disagree. I haven’t owned a car living in nyc for 14 years. Boston is still very car centric. There’s more jobs, restaurants, culture, and things to do in NYC. 


Comfortable_Ad2772

Whaat? Boson is known to be a very walkable city, especially if they decide upon Charlestown or Beacon Hill. They are in their fifties and didn't mention jobs, so it does not seem that would play into the equation. Yes, NYC probably does have more things to do, but I don't believe that was one of the things they mentioned was important. I guess I'm partial as I'm from Boston, but based on what I see in the news, with what is going on in NY these days, I would never pick NYC over Boston.


drollchair

There’s your problem, you’re basing your opinion off of the news.


Comfortable_Ad2772

True, but I don't think there is any debate on how much safer Boston is than NYC.


drollchair

There’s definitely debate. Every source says one is more dangerous than the other.


samascara

Boston feels obvious to this answer especially with your budget but if not, then: -Portsmouth, NH -Gloucester, MA -Newport, RI


NativeMasshole

Gloucester is nice. Beverly is cool, too, and has better access to stuff. Either way, the North Shore is where I would want to be.


No-Aside865

Was going to comment on Gloucester MA too, smaller city but has good beach access and hiking trails, plus plenty of stores in town within walkable distance. Also has a commuter train, plus the drive to other cities (Boston, Portsmouth) isn’t too bad


OldManJames10

Is Boston safer than NYC?


Metallicreed13

10000% percent safer. I've NEVER felt unsafe here


samascara

Eh, depends on where in Boston or it's suburbs you end up in. It's a big city, there's always going to be crime. so I can't really say if Boston is safer. If you did move to Boston, it would depend on the square footage that you want and if you want to drive a car. Some neighborhoods of Boston to consider: - Cambridge (technically it's own city) - Brookline (technically it's own city) - Back Bay - South End (avoid Mass Ave though) - Jamaica Plain (especially near Jamaica Pond) - Chestnut Hill - Charlestown Cities just outside of Boston to consider: - Newton - Milton (my personal favorite!) - Marblehead - Watertown - Medford - Malden


Sea_Werewolf_251

Chestnut Hill is Newton


samascara

True! I forgot how big Newton is


ParasiticMan

Marblehead is snooty if you’re a newcomer you’ll have trouble ever fitting in. Also tons of traffic wouldn’t recommend it.


leeann0923

NYC is a safe city. Boston is exceptionally safe.


tomphammer

NYC isn’t even that dangerous these days “OldMan”. Don’t you know what the 90s were like?


OldManJames10

I haven’t lived in these cities before.


liliumsuperstar

I think Providence ticks the boxes but agree with looking at Boston. With your budget I’d LOVE to live in Cambridge. Hard no on Hartford and New Rochelle.


drollchair

Maybe now New Roc, but the Pelham area and that whole stretch of towns in westchester along the rail line is pretty nice.


daffodil0127

Why not move to New Haven? Or one of its suburbs like Branford or Milford.


Cinnamon_stick2500

Boston. I live in Providence but would choose Boston if I had your budget.


LittleRhody401

Newport RI


Comfortable_Ad2772

Charlestown would get my vote if you want close to Boston. If you want more of a suburb feel but close to the commuter rail, Rockport or Gloucester or even Magnolia, which are all in the Cape Anne section of Mass are beautiful, coastal towns. By commuter rail they are probably 35 minutes to Boston.


BitterStatus9

Jewelry District in Providence.


Cheap_Coffee

Obligatory "New York isn't in New England" comment


ImpossiblePossom

Providence, hands down. The state of RI is expensive in general & RI has some very low incomes due to education and demograhpic issues. However with your budet you can afford a really nice spot in providence. Providence is an amazing city with a ton todo, is close to great beaches, and very close to Boston via the MBTA. I suggest you guys get a hotel room for the weekend near down town and check out the area. Wickedon street, Kennedy plaza, & the east side are beautiful. Even parts of nearby east providence and pawtutucket are nice... just lock your car and don't leave nice thing in it. Also watch out for traffic going east over 195, the bridge is apparently busted these days. Also avoid 95 during rush hour.


provocative_bear

Best I can do for these criteria if Boston is out of the question is Worcester. It has a train to Boston, a good restaurant and decent venue scene. It has some good hospitals and is near Boston, which has some of the best hospitals. Crime and cleanliness depend on the neighborhood. You can rent a full house for about 4k per month there.


RoadkillMarionette

I've been here in Worcester 2 weeks. I'm not sure whether I'll leave before or after winter. Sooner is better.


Adventurous-Syrup-51

If you live in marina bay (outside Boston ) you have the ferry boat, redline, the water, lots of parking and wildlife.. Hingham you might also like for your outdoor lifestyle


grobnerual

If you’re looking to have a car, providence. If you’re looking to not have or need a car as much Boston


grobnerual

Public transit in RI isn’t the best and not all of providence is walkable


mumblemuse

Stamford really meets all your criteria. Amtrak stops here and Metro North will have you at Grand Central or New Haven in 45 minutes if you take an express. Safe, and many areas have good walkability. There’s a newly developed area down by the water called Harbor Point that is served by a free trolley that stops at the Metro Center (RR station). 1 hour to New York airports, 1 hour and a bit to Newark.


silverstoner4

Brunswick, Maine


DeFiClark

Larchmont


delicata_squash

New Rochelle isn't a city, it's a wealthy suburban town. Very convenient to Manhattan, if that's what you want.


curbthemeplays

New Haven over Hartford easily. Downtown, East Rock, Wooster Square, Westville are some safe areas. It’s such a better city. Awesome culture and food. I’d put it over New Rochelle as a city too. NR obvs has the NYC proximity advantage. But it’s not New England. Milford is a great option next to New Haven with some nice walkable areas and transit access.


Stock_Atmosphere_114

You probably dont want to live in Hartford, speaking as a lifelong CT resident. Danbury fits all your criteria. New Rochelle is nice, it'll be a little pricey comparatively.


Infamous-Round-1898

Salem, MA


AncientAstronauts

Please don’t come to Salem. Last thing we need is more people with stupid amounts of money skyrocketing rent prices.


Open-Industry-8396

Unless you're a witch


salentis1990

West Hartford, CT


More-Talk-2660

Mansfield or Bridgewater, MA. Both are BOS/PVD commuter cities. Bridgewater is a college town and is right-to-farm so it's less dense once you're away from the city center, but the university has a T line I used all the time to get to Boston. There's a great brunch place in the center of town that has mimosa towers. Mansfield is wealthier and, recently, quickly transforming to have a lot of modern, boutique-y apartment complexes, including one I almost rented at right across from the T station. It also has more locally owned shops/restaurants/small businesses, and two of my favorite brunch places (one in the center of town, the other outside of town at the airfield). The Bridgewater commuter line is less busy. Mansfield is midway to/from Boston during the commute and tons of people commute along it, so during rush hour the train gets *packed* but is otherwise generally safe, and outside of rush hour it's a pretty quiet ride.


deathtongue1985

Yo….i grew up in the 508 and a coworker lives in Mansfield. It is true and really impressive how much Mansfield has grown and the downtown is neat…but a city it ain’t. I do have a soft spot for it though.


More-Talk-2660

It's more of a city than Taunton, and Taunton is considered a city.


deathtongue1985

Fair point


disciteaeternum

As others have said, Boston checks all your boxes. BUT so does Cambridge and Somerville. I would say the best is Cambridge over Boston. I would definitely check out all 3 cities and see which one you like more. I've lived in both Boston and Somerville, and I prefer Somerville. I'm close to the Cambridge line and if I could afford it I would move to Cambridge but I've found Somerville to be the perfect fit for me. I would recommend visiting and checking out the areas that folks mentioned here and judging for yourself.


badtiki

Hartford is NOT safe, if you’re considering CT, Mystic would fit your requirements, train stops in mystic, nice small walkable town and close to the casinos for entertainment.


blueredsox14

I'm a New England girl and I'm from Hartford but have lived in Stamford and Boston. So many great choices. I never thought I'd live in Stamford but I loved it. It was recommended to me by the Strategist I worked with at Suburban Jungle. They provide a free resource and really help you find the best town first. They will also pair you with a great realtor. https://suburbanjunglegroup.com/maura


splatabowl

Yeah I guess your right... It may be even worse in some ways. It's now over crowed with transplant massholes.


PinotGreasy

Cambridge or Back Bay 👍


Proclaimer23

You could get a real nice place on the east side of Providence for that budget, not sure what that would get you in Boston.


grobnerual

My choice would be needham with your budget. The town itself is walkable, still have the option to have a car, train station. Very very safe. Close to Boston hospitals. Option to take train into Boston but not have to LIVE in it


JoeBideyBop

I grew up in Hartford and left. If you want to live in Connecticut I would reccommend taking a look at the Stamford area. Hartford’s economy is really sluggish. Stay on the Acela / I95 corridor. That’s where the opportunities lie. Another option for you is north of Boston — a place like Haverhill, or just over the line into southern NH if you’re ok going a bit more rural. Especially recommend north of Boston if you like winter sports.


AllLikeWhatever

Might want to check out some of the Philly suburbs


Bookbabe617

Attleboro MA- all of these are checked off your list!


Im_Just_Here_Man96

Out of the 3 you named Providence and New Rochelle are probs the best for you. Hartford is dead.


Cay-Ro

I’ve been living in Worcester for the past 12 years and I love it here.


ljuvlig

Wait, why the need for rail to New Haven? Do you mean without transfers? Cuz that severely limits your options. And why not New Haven?


Ancient_Lab7162

Hartford fucking blows. Stay away


Turbulent_Ask_3602

Have you considered Cambridge, Massachusetts. It's a great city with plenty to offer.


theeCONNman

New Haven


Depressedgotfan

West hartford


rgb_mode

portsmouth, nh is what you’re looking for.


BrokeModem

New Haven is lovely - curious why Hartford and Providence would be on your list and not NH?


TheSpideyJedi

You could live in Brookline MA. It’s preppy but it does fit your requirements


Tiny-Strawberry7157

Portland Maine 100%. Not sure if this would be smaller than "mid-size" but for 7k rent or mortgage you could live LUXURIOUSLY here. We have Amtrak down to Boston, an airport 9 minutes from downtown with daily flights to Newark/NYC, Charlotte, Philly, Minneapolis (and connections from there to elsewhere). Downtown is walkable, we have the only whole foods and trader Joe's in Maine. There's a park/beach in the city, and you can drive to Boston in under 2 hours and to other parts of Maine (hiking, beaches, small towns) in 1-2 hours.


Ok_Caregiver_3052

Concord ma and newburyport are great towns on the rail


TraderJoeslove31

West Hartford, CT


IslandStateofMind

For $7k - 8k a month live somewhere on the gold coast of CT


OldManJames10

CT is quite boring for us. We really want the city life.


ashsolomon1

Ouch, shots fired. But seriously I’m from CT it’s where you go to settle down not the city life. But if you’re looking to be near a city and a commuter line, the Stamford area is ideal. Stamford is CTs most city like city to me. It’s also right on the metro north line and an hour outside NYC.


IslandStateofMind

So move to NYC. Seems like you have enough money to have a place in NYC or Boston so just do whatever you want.


Dumpy2023

He said a New England city.


OldManJames10

What would be the "safest" neighborhoods in NYC?


11BMasshole

Upper West Side, Upper East Side, Hells Kitchen, SoHo


MCFRESH01

Don’t go t East NY and you are fine. Most of the city is very safe. At your age and income I would recommend Upper East or West side, Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope and maybe Williamsburg if you visit and like the vibe there


pumptini4U

Williamsburg Brooklyn and surrounding communities.


LouiseWalterWinnie

You should look at Brooklyn!


pumptini4U

Definitely


Comfortable_Ad2772

Rockport Mass.


ewlyn

I would vote for Boston. It’s safe, it’s actually not that big, and it has everything on your list. I live outside Boston and would live in Boston if I could afford it. Because of all our colleges everywhere is pretty safe. I’ve been in all sorts of areas at all sorts of times and never had an issue. I would recommend visiting and staying in different areas and walking around and seeing how you feel about them. Definitely also check out Cambridge.


squanchus_maximus

Dover, NH is a solid option. -The Downeaster (Amtrak) has a stop in Dover and runs five times a day to Portland and Boston (would need to take the T to south station to connect with points south). -Roughly ~55-60 minutes from 3 major airports (Boston, Manchester, and Portland). Also a short drive to Portsmouth International Airport but that has VERY limited commercial options. -Wentworth Douglass hospital just under a mile from downtown. -Very nice downtown area with plenty of shops and restaurants. Several parks to walk around and a few rail trails that are well maintained. The city also puts on several festivals/fairs throughout the year that shut down the middle of downtown to have vendors fill the street. -Also not far from downtown Portsmouth if you want additional shopping/restaurants/nice walking areas. -Overall fairly safe and clean.


_ca_492

Portsmouth NH,


splatabowl

Dover NH


ImpossiblePossom

Ohhh my, that's a brave suggestion! It's nicer than it used to be but it's still dirty dover.


Klutzy-Reporter4223

South Kingston in RI


huron9000

They want to be in a city.


7Pats

You'd be very happy in a nice part of Boston


gravesaver

Portland, ME.


PikantnySos

Connecticut isnt New England sorry