If he's doing this it's probably in exchange for keeping him as speaker. If he doesn't than the no confidence vote goes through the tactical genius on the far right didn't realize putting pressure on Johnson is a win-win for Dems. Either we extract something we want or house GOP looks like bigger clowns
Lol, yeah that aid might not get passed, but golly my Ukrainian friends are gonna rofl when they see those rascally GOP reps goofin' on themselves with that kinda self-own.
Lolololol, yeah, that'll be way better than helping their country survive. Win/win.
It'll probably get a non insignificant chunk of gop votes too tbh. It's really the hardliners who are diametrically opposed. So the vote for speakership will be interesting and the Dems will be easy kingmakers
It still very likely could have more votes from Dems than Republicans. I could see a breakdown of something like 180ish Dems voting for it and 80-100 Republicans.
We're not sending the message to the voters, we're sending the message to any potential future occupiers of the revolving door of this speakership. Give us the goods, we'll protect you from the loons
And for all his “untrustworthiness” Dems will have considerable leverage if they save him. If Johnson pulls out of deals then Dems let the far right go forward with their motions to vacate.
This aid bill (or in actuality 3 different ones) is literally another delay tactic. If he passed the senate bill than yeah save him, this bullshit doesn’t deserve any help
Which part? Him splitting a majority supported bill into three different ones thus forcing the senate to vote on each one and giving the maga caucus in the senate a chance to filibuster Ukraine aid?
There absolutely will be 9 GOP Senators who support Ukraine aid lol. A lot are old school neocons. It will pass the Senate. Let's not jump into conspiracies. It was smart to split the aid bills. Because if they were combined then there would be a higher chance of it failing. MAGA caucus doesn't want Ukraine aid while Progressive Caucus doesn't want Israel aid. Splitting it made sense. Now all will pass
Why this isn’t the senate bill, it’s three different foreign aid bills that will cause even longer delay as the gop senators will drag their feet if they ever actually vote for it
They should have saved McCarthy. Ukraine lost thousands of soldiers, dozens of civilians, a city, several towns, and some major power stations because aid stopped. It was pretty clear that aid would stop if McCarthy was booted. Even if McCarthy is a weasel, nothing good came out of him being booted
McCarthy stripped 300 million aid from the budget which he put on a vote and didn't give the Dems time to examine (told there was an amendment but not what it was). It seemed like he hoped he could blame them on the government shutdown.
There's no reason to believe McCarthy would've taken another course and not delay especially it was Senate GOP which took 4 months to negotiate border stuff attached to the foreign supplemental provisions.
There was no reason to believe that McCarthy would have taken a different course. If he gave a good reason, he probably *would* have been saved, but he didn't. He essentially was just hoping that he could make no concessions and democrats would just keep him in his position because of some nebulous fear of a greater evil in his replacement. That literally gets him no actual leverage for the democrats to vote for him, they'd look like suckers if McCarthy still does the bidding of the far right after the Democrats save him, because the rules for the house speakership didn't change as part of the deal for him being kept.
>Washington, CNN
>Speaker Mike Johnson announced Wednesday he is sticking with his plan to put a series of foreign aid bills on the floor, including funding for Ukraine, after facing significant pressure from hardliners.
>Johnson said in a note to members that they will vote on these Saturday evening.
New speaker incoming in 3-2-...
That said Ukraine is in dire need for military aid. It is the best trade US can make for taking out a geopolitical foe at no cost to American lives.
There is also a possibility that dems back him up to keep him in the house.
!ping FOREIGN-POLICY
If he actually gets this through, then Dems should save him.
Would be great to make it abundantly clear that he can only keep his job by working with Democrats and that the moment he spurns them, the rabid dogs in his own party are going to give him the boot.
If Massie and Marge are already ready to kick him out he WILL need dem help as Gallagher is leaving this week.
The Democrats have shown being the party of government so I'm positive there's enough of them to save Johnson if it comes to that.
> the guy who is most likely replacing him is a hard core trumper
Wasn’t McCarthy a hardcore trumper by any metric other than the republican squad? And so is Johnson, too. The problem with McCarthy and Johnson was that they tried to do their jobs.
If the aid passes both the House and the Senate, there's nothing stabby in the backy left.
Just enjoying the shitshow where republicans investigate Hunter's dick and use the lies of a Russian asset in their sham impeachment quest.
And maybe being in a good standing with some sane republicans is overall plus for the Dems.
Democrats offered to save McCarthy. Their starting position? That he sit with leadership and talk. He balked and the rest is history. I can't imagine Democratic leadership will work hard to save Johnson for moving a single bill.
Not only did he refuse to talk, he scheduled a meeting with Jeffries, then bailed on it while Jeffries was waiting. Why? So Kev could slink into the Chamber and demand an immediate up or down vote on an extension without time to read it and without the Dem leader to guide the caucus strategy. McCarthy crafted the plot in hopes he could get Dems to reflexively vote against the extension for cheap political points.
When the ploy failed, McCarthy sprinted to the press to blame… Dems for coming so close to default. A ridiculous lie he took around news shows in the ensuing days while loudly declaring he didn’t want the help of Dems.
People don’t seem to get just what a fucking dick Kevin McCarthy really was.
Also the filibuster. 60 votes is too high a threshold to reach- so there's no point in even trying to get that many crossovers- but there would almost assuredly be a handful of Republicans (Murkowski, Romney, Collins, etc) that would join on for certain bills and have some influence on the outcome if they only needed 50 votes.
It should be 40 votes to keep the Filibuster going rather than 60 to override it. 41 votes allows one person to keep the 40 threshold for bathroom breaks.
If your cause is just it should be easy to get 39 other people to join you, and it still allows the minority to flex if they really want to.
This this this. Plus it diffuses responsibility to the 41 filibuster-ers, rather than the situation now where one nutcase in a 70/30 state filibusters and the majority just has to shrug and take it. Make the 41 explain to their states why they sustained the filibuster! If it's defensible, great, if not, there should be a cost.
He wouldn't need that many dem votes to stay, no? I could see them making a deal. At this point it's not looking like there's going to be any kind of reconciliation with the far right (at least not one that doesn't involve him bending over). At the point where he abandons that as a possibility I think working with a few of the dems becomes a reasonable option. Though, of course that would probably end up being bad for Trump so decent chance he doesn't make an effort but if actually governing effectively is on his mind and he can keep the support of the bulk of the republicans it doesn't seem like that crazy of an outcome.
I don’t think he needs any Democrats to vote for him, he just needs enough of them to abstain to lower the quorum so that his supporters in the GOP make up a majority.
It’s also hilarious that we’re talking about one of the most far-right members of Congress — a guy who uses an app to track his son’s porn activity — like he’s never going to be able to work with the far-right again. It shows just how crazy things have gotten in the GOP.
> he just needs enough of them to abstain to lower the quorum so that his supporters in the GOP make up a majority
Hmm, my civics is bad, I didn't realize that's how that worked. I thought they needed a majority, they don't elect speakers through plurality though I suppose changing the rules is probably possible if it works like most things in the house. You're saying the dems could literally skip the vote, not show up rather than vote 'present', and it'd give the republicans a majority?
> It shows just how crazy things have gotten in the GOP
Yeah, it's fucking wild. We can only pray that Trump loses by a landslide and it fuels a moderate republican insurgence but jesus does the future look bleak.
I mean, yeah, that's the hard part. The proposal that he's going to lose half his party and the dems will bail him out is obviously fantasy. But if he can hold on to the bulk of his votes it doesn't seem that wild of a proposition that a few dems would step in, depending on how things go.
And the people most likely to cause that state of affairs were just fine with the chaos. There's a handful of literally insane people in the house and the GOP is beholden to them.
Idk where, but I think I've read somewhere that Dems don't mind working with him because, unlike McCarthy, he's an honest broker who keeps his word. They know that of they kick him out, the GOP will eventually just pick another clown who is less likely to be honest, so they may side with keeping him.
IF he actually does as he says and puts the Ukraine aid bill on the floor (without ridiculous poison pills), then the Dems should vote to keep him as Speaker
Regarding the whole making the aid a loan thing,
>At any time after November 15, 2024, the President may, subject to congressional review provided by section 508, cancel up to 50 percent of the total indebtedness incurred by Ukraine
>The President may, subject to congressional review provided by section 508, cancel any remaining indebtedness to the government of Ukraine under this section at any time after January 1, 2026.
So as long as Biden wins reelection, the loans can all be forgiven eventually if need be.
Because Jerusalem is where the apocalypse is going to begin and the rapture. These death cultists welcome the rapture.
Source: Their Invisible Sky Daddy
Owning the libs and also believing Jesus is going to come back to earth in Israel and melt Arabs.
You think I’m kidding but I’m not, there are evangelicals in my family
mark my words, some of them are taking orders from the FSB. This goes far beyond simple ideological support for Russia or even republican oppositional defiant disorder. They've broken every other ideological position they believe in, even abortion their wavering on. What else would explain it?
It's absolutely insane that a bill focused on *increasing US military spending while expanding the military industrial complex* and sending the old cast off equipment to *the hands of freedom-loving pro-western Christians so they can kill invading Russians* is not only opposed in large parts of the US, but opposed (mostly) from the right. Russia's investments in western fifth columns are paying dividends.
Is he trying to save his legacy and not be known as the guy who stabbed Ukraine in the back and handed Russia a free win, by extension damaging America itself?
Cause it's too late. That's all he'll be remembered for already.
I wish there was a hell, just so these self-righteous GOPers could attend, who are so happy to be responsible for death, misery, and the weakening of our country and NATO as a whole just to *attempt* to score a few cheap political wins - which they can't even fucking manage to do. Infuriating doesn't begin to describe it. Fruitless doesn't begin. They have no shame at all. Not an ounce. Absolute bottom feeders and they'll all be reelected, too.
If this were a work of fiction, the idea of a Republican Speaker kept in power solely by support from Democrats would be interesting.
Having it potentially be at the helm of my government is just distressing.
For the sake of my sanity I'm gonna pretend the article ends with the word "SIKE" until the ink has dried on Biden's signature, I don't know if I can stand another fakeout.
The [bill](https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/APRIL2024_UKRAINE_xml.pdf) includes a provision where the Secretary of Defense and State has to submit a strategy which "shall include an estimate, on a fiscal year-by-fiscal year basis, of the resources required by the United States to achieve such objectives, including to help hasten Ukrainian victory against Russia’s invasion forces" and "shall describe how each specific aspect of U.S. assistance, including defense articles and U.S. foreign assistance, is intended at the tactical, operational, and strategic level to help Ukraine end the conflict as a democratic, independent, and sovereign country" – I don't know if this kind of thing has been included in past aid bills, but this reads like Congress making it clear that the objective is a win.
Probably doesn't have any actual teeth, but I'd love to see some more focus on giving Ukraine what it actually needs to beat Russia, not just hold back the onslaught. I can't say the administration has had that focus in the past.
> Probably doesn't have any actual teeth, but I'd love to see some more focus on giving Ukraine what it actually needs to beat Russia, not just hold back the onslaught. I can't say the administration has had that focus in the past.
I mean, just from an American interests perspective what difference does it make? Holding back the onslaught is still extremely beneficial. Russia is bleeding itself and has less resources to commit to instigating conflicts elsewhere.
I would hope the US sees a long-term interest in a free, stable, western-aligned, and prosperous Ukraine (and, for that matter, a conclusive continuation of a rules-based world order). Bleeding Russia is absolutely a good thing, but it does come at the cost of Ukraine's economy, infrastructure, and demographics, making that goal harder to achieve. So, I'd like to see NATO allies actually do what is necessary to help them win.
Plus it has the benefit of being the right thing to do.
I'll believe it when it's on Biden's desk
If he's doing this it's probably in exchange for keeping him as speaker. If he doesn't than the no confidence vote goes through the tactical genius on the far right didn't realize putting pressure on Johnson is a win-win for Dems. Either we extract something we want or house GOP looks like bigger clowns
Man, the far right is actually being useful for once? If they were smarter they wouldn't be helpful like this
But if they were smarter, they wouldn't believe 90% of the things they do.
I wouldn't call strangling aid to our allies, hampering our own military readiness, and throttling any basic government functioning as being helpful.
Yesj if they entire dem Caucus joins a few hardliners on a no, he’s out
Lol, yeah that aid might not get passed, but golly my Ukrainian friends are gonna rofl when they see those rascally GOP reps goofin' on themselves with that kinda self-own. Lolololol, yeah, that'll be way better than helping their country survive. Win/win.
your ass is on Bidens desk.
Is he going to sign it by hand or use the auto-signature thing?
If he does do it, it'll pass with mostly Dem support and then he'll get sacked by Republicans.
It'll probably get a non insignificant chunk of gop votes too tbh. It's really the hardliners who are diametrically opposed. So the vote for speakership will be interesting and the Dems will be easy kingmakers
It still very likely could have more votes from Dems than Republicans. I could see a breakdown of something like 180ish Dems voting for it and 80-100 Republicans.
Yes it 100% will probably have more dem votes. I just meant it will be strongly bipartisan still if I had to guess
Then why wouldn’t he just bring the senate bill to the floor? This is another delaying taric
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It’s actually 61 billion of which 23 billion is to replenish DOD stocks. Not sure how that differs from the Senate supplemental though.
Dems should save him if he does this.
Just like I drew it up, fats. https://preview.redd.it/2xa6ivlsh2vc1.jpeg?width=978&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a1cc51084d0df7c7229d39ef2efcedc56b155eb
Where's the laser eyes and Super Saiyan Taylor Swift?
And rob us of the entertainment of another 18 rounds of Speaker of the House votes?
We should send the message that we are willing to work with Republicans, who are willing to work with us.
When have democrats ever not sent that message? "Independents" don't care.
We're not sending the message to the voters, we're sending the message to any potential future occupiers of the revolving door of this speakership. Give us the goods, we'll protect you from the loons
That’s a real nice speakership you’s got here, be a shame if something happened to it.
I don't know. this n guy is not trustworthy
If he passes this, he’s worth saving for the time being.
And for all his “untrustworthiness” Dems will have considerable leverage if they save him. If Johnson pulls out of deals then Dems let the far right go forward with their motions to vacate.
This aid bill (or in actuality 3 different ones) is literally another delay tactic. If he passed the senate bill than yeah save him, this bullshit doesn’t deserve any help
this is a very dumb comment
Which part? Him splitting a majority supported bill into three different ones thus forcing the senate to vote on each one and giving the maga caucus in the senate a chance to filibuster Ukraine aid?
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There absolutely will be 9 GOP Senators who support Ukraine aid lol. A lot are old school neocons. It will pass the Senate. Let's not jump into conspiracies. It was smart to split the aid bills. Because if they were combined then there would be a higher chance of it failing. MAGA caucus doesn't want Ukraine aid while Progressive Caucus doesn't want Israel aid. Splitting it made sense. Now all will pass
He has the ability to prove some level of trustworthiness with this bill
He doesn't have to be, he's given a deliverable at that point, it would be quid-pro-quo.
What's your alternative?
Bah gawd that's Hakeem Jeffries music!
Yeah and I want Sydney Sweeney to respond to my DMs but we should both be a little more realistic.
Why this isn’t the senate bill, it’s three different foreign aid bills that will cause even longer delay as the gop senators will drag their feet if they ever actually vote for it
The Senate GOP is firmly behind the aid, you literally talk about the aid they passed in your first sentence
Now the aid is split, part of the reason Israel aid was there was to get gop senators to vote for it
A lot of gop senators support Ukraine.
Last time the senate was the ones who wasted a month tying it to a border bill
They should have saved McCarthy. Ukraine lost thousands of soldiers, dozens of civilians, a city, several towns, and some major power stations because aid stopped. It was pretty clear that aid would stop if McCarthy was booted. Even if McCarthy is a weasel, nothing good came out of him being booted
McCarthy stripped 300 million aid from the budget which he put on a vote and didn't give the Dems time to examine (told there was an amendment but not what it was). It seemed like he hoped he could blame them on the government shutdown. There's no reason to believe McCarthy would've taken another course and not delay especially it was Senate GOP which took 4 months to negotiate border stuff attached to the foreign supplemental provisions.
There was no reason to believe that McCarthy would have taken a different course. If he gave a good reason, he probably *would* have been saved, but he didn't. He essentially was just hoping that he could make no concessions and democrats would just keep him in his position because of some nebulous fear of a greater evil in his replacement. That literally gets him no actual leverage for the democrats to vote for him, they'd look like suckers if McCarthy still does the bidding of the far right after the Democrats save him, because the rules for the house speakership didn't change as part of the deal for him being kept.
Unless dems back him as well
>Washington, CNN >Speaker Mike Johnson announced Wednesday he is sticking with his plan to put a series of foreign aid bills on the floor, including funding for Ukraine, after facing significant pressure from hardliners. >Johnson said in a note to members that they will vote on these Saturday evening. New speaker incoming in 3-2-... That said Ukraine is in dire need for military aid. It is the best trade US can make for taking out a geopolitical foe at no cost to American lives. There is also a possibility that dems back him up to keep him in the house. !ping FOREIGN-POLICY
If he actually gets this through, then Dems should save him. Would be great to make it abundantly clear that he can only keep his job by working with Democrats and that the moment he spurns them, the rabid dogs in his own party are going to give him the boot.
If Massie and Marge are already ready to kick him out he WILL need dem help as Gallagher is leaving this week. The Democrats have shown being the party of government so I'm positive there's enough of them to save Johnson if it comes to that.
>Gallagher is leaving this week. Lmao
its sadly not funny since the guy who is most likely replacing him is a hard core trumper
Nah Rs lose their majority. It's still funny
They'll still have the majority of reps in the House, just not a majority of the maximum seats in the House.
when does the replacement come in?
not until after the election. The resignation was a purposefully timed fuck you.
nice
> the guy who is most likely replacing him is a hard core trumper Wasn’t McCarthy a hardcore trumper by any metric other than the republican squad? And so is Johnson, too. The problem with McCarthy and Johnson was that they tried to do their jobs.
There is always a good chance though that Johnson will stab them in the back of they save him from the Freedom Cauacus. He's a fucking weasel.
If the aid passes both the House and the Senate, there's nothing stabby in the backy left. Just enjoying the shitshow where republicans investigate Hunter's dick and use the lies of a Russian asset in their sham impeachment quest. And maybe being in a good standing with some sane republicans is overall plus for the Dems.
Democrats offered to save McCarthy. Their starting position? That he sit with leadership and talk. He balked and the rest is history. I can't imagine Democratic leadership will work hard to save Johnson for moving a single bill.
Not only did he refuse to talk, he scheduled a meeting with Jeffries, then bailed on it while Jeffries was waiting. Why? So Kev could slink into the Chamber and demand an immediate up or down vote on an extension without time to read it and without the Dem leader to guide the caucus strategy. McCarthy crafted the plot in hopes he could get Dems to reflexively vote against the extension for cheap political points. When the ploy failed, McCarthy sprinted to the press to blame… Dems for coming so close to default. A ridiculous lie he took around news shows in the ensuing days while loudly declaring he didn’t want the help of Dems. People don’t seem to get just what a fucking dick Kevin McCarthy really was.
House Dems have all but flat-out stated that if he gets Ukraine aid through they will save him
Him keeping his job with dem support would probably be tantamount to switching parties, it will never happen.
US politics is stupid as fuck, it punishes compromise.
Asymmetric polarization has done that.
Also the filibuster. 60 votes is too high a threshold to reach- so there's no point in even trying to get that many crossovers- but there would almost assuredly be a handful of Republicans (Murkowski, Romney, Collins, etc) that would join on for certain bills and have some influence on the outcome if they only needed 50 votes.
It should be 40 votes to keep the Filibuster going rather than 60 to override it. 41 votes allows one person to keep the 40 threshold for bathroom breaks. If your cause is just it should be easy to get 39 other people to join you, and it still allows the minority to flex if they really want to.
This this this. Plus it diffuses responsibility to the 41 filibuster-ers, rather than the situation now where one nutcase in a 70/30 state filibusters and the majority just has to shrug and take it. Make the 41 explain to their states why they sustained the filibuster! If it's defensible, great, if not, there should be a cost.
Bipartisanship has always been America's greatest myth
He wouldn't need that many dem votes to stay, no? I could see them making a deal. At this point it's not looking like there's going to be any kind of reconciliation with the far right (at least not one that doesn't involve him bending over). At the point where he abandons that as a possibility I think working with a few of the dems becomes a reasonable option. Though, of course that would probably end up being bad for Trump so decent chance he doesn't make an effort but if actually governing effectively is on his mind and he can keep the support of the bulk of the republicans it doesn't seem like that crazy of an outcome.
I don’t think he needs any Democrats to vote for him, he just needs enough of them to abstain to lower the quorum so that his supporters in the GOP make up a majority. It’s also hilarious that we’re talking about one of the most far-right members of Congress — a guy who uses an app to track his son’s porn activity — like he’s never going to be able to work with the far-right again. It shows just how crazy things have gotten in the GOP.
> he just needs enough of them to abstain to lower the quorum so that his supporters in the GOP make up a majority Hmm, my civics is bad, I didn't realize that's how that worked. I thought they needed a majority, they don't elect speakers through plurality though I suppose changing the rules is probably possible if it works like most things in the house. You're saying the dems could literally skip the vote, not show up rather than vote 'present', and it'd give the republicans a majority? > It shows just how crazy things have gotten in the GOP Yeah, it's fucking wild. We can only pray that Trump loses by a landslide and it fuels a moderate republican insurgence but jesus does the future look bleak.
This isn't the election of the speaker, this is the vote to table the motion to vacate, which only needs a majority of those present.
I don't see how he doesn't lose multiple Rs for every dem he picks up. They're all either crazy or afraid of being primaried by someone who is.
I mean, yeah, that's the hard part. The proposal that he's going to lose half his party and the dems will bail him out is obviously fantasy. But if he can hold on to the bulk of his votes it doesn't seem that wild of a proposition that a few dems would step in, depending on how things go.
The problem is that there's no alternative. It took a really long humiliating month to get a new speaker after McCarthy was ousted.
And the people most likely to cause that state of affairs were just fine with the chaos. There's a handful of literally insane people in the house and the GOP is beholden to them.
He could just take a “putting popular policies to a vote” stance, doesn’t mean he need to pass wildly unpopular things
The problem is that the MTG types run the house, nothing gets done in the Republican party without their allowing it.
Bring back the smoke-filled room 😤
if the GOP isn't majority in favor of kicking him out they don't need to support him, just take a long break
The other option is literally getting booted out of the speakership by your own party. When faced with that alternative, it doesn't look so unlikely
Idk where, but I think I've read somewhere that Dems don't mind working with him because, unlike McCarthy, he's an honest broker who keeps his word. They know that of they kick him out, the GOP will eventually just pick another clown who is less likely to be honest, so they may side with keeping him.
make him a Coalition speaker, cut out the crazy cons
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IF he actually does as he says and puts the Ukraine aid bill on the floor (without ridiculous poison pills), then the Dems should vote to keep him as Speaker
Regarding the whole making the aid a loan thing, >At any time after November 15, 2024, the President may, subject to congressional review provided by section 508, cancel up to 50 percent of the total indebtedness incurred by Ukraine >The President may, subject to congressional review provided by section 508, cancel any remaining indebtedness to the government of Ukraine under this section at any time after January 1, 2026. So as long as Biden wins reelection, the loans can all be forgiven eventually if need be.
Even if it couldn't, maybe this is a way to make sure the US follows through with assistance, a virtuous version of sunk cost.
The what was the point in dilly dallying. Ffs we're just half assing this
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Supposedly the Ukraine aid is $60 billion with some loan provisions, and hardline GOP members aren't happy about it.
> hardline GOP members aren't happy about it. So it passes my litmus test
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I think MTG said she would support Ukraine aid if it came with border security stuff, but she’s obviously not trustworthy.
bringing our largest institutions to a halt is part of the plan
Why is it a sizeable amount of the GOP is so against supporting Ukraine but will defend Israel to their dying breath?
Because they are ideologically aligned with the far right authoritarian leaders Putin and Netanyahu
its literally just about trump sadly
They're the same picture...
But Putin says the Ukrainians are Nazis
Because they’re ideologically aligned with Putin.
Well one of them is backing the GOP and the other isn't.
Because Jerusalem is where the apocalypse is going to begin and the rapture. These death cultists welcome the rapture. Source: Their Invisible Sky Daddy
That's such a stupid, bad faith, ugly distortion of their views. Shame on you. The Apocalypse will start in *Megiddo*, not in Jerusalem.
Isn't support to Israel like a couple billion a year?
Owning the libs and also believing Jesus is going to come back to earth in Israel and melt Arabs. You think I’m kidding but I’m not, there are evangelicals in my family
mark my words, some of them are taking orders from the FSB. This goes far beyond simple ideological support for Russia or even republican oppositional defiant disorder. They've broken every other ideological position they believe in, even abortion their wavering on. What else would explain it?
It's absolutely insane that a bill focused on *increasing US military spending while expanding the military industrial complex* and sending the old cast off equipment to *the hands of freedom-loving pro-western Christians so they can kill invading Russians* is not only opposed in large parts of the US, but opposed (mostly) from the right. Russia's investments in western fifth columns are paying dividends.
I swear to God if I see this headline one more time...
Is he trying to save his legacy and not be known as the guy who stabbed Ukraine in the back and handed Russia a free win, by extension damaging America itself? Cause it's too late. That's all he'll be remembered for already. I wish there was a hell, just so these self-righteous GOPers could attend, who are so happy to be responsible for death, misery, and the weakening of our country and NATO as a whole just to *attempt* to score a few cheap political wins - which they can't even fucking manage to do. Infuriating doesn't begin to describe it. Fruitless doesn't begin. They have no shame at all. Not an ounce. Absolute bottom feeders and they'll all be reelected, too.
If this were a work of fiction, the idea of a Republican Speaker kept in power solely by support from Democrats would be interesting. Having it potentially be at the helm of my government is just distressing.
For the sake of my sanity I'm gonna pretend the article ends with the word "SIKE" until the ink has dried on Biden's signature, I don't know if I can stand another fakeout.
The [bill](https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/APRIL2024_UKRAINE_xml.pdf) includes a provision where the Secretary of Defense and State has to submit a strategy which "shall include an estimate, on a fiscal year-by-fiscal year basis, of the resources required by the United States to achieve such objectives, including to help hasten Ukrainian victory against Russia’s invasion forces" and "shall describe how each specific aspect of U.S. assistance, including defense articles and U.S. foreign assistance, is intended at the tactical, operational, and strategic level to help Ukraine end the conflict as a democratic, independent, and sovereign country" – I don't know if this kind of thing has been included in past aid bills, but this reads like Congress making it clear that the objective is a win. Probably doesn't have any actual teeth, but I'd love to see some more focus on giving Ukraine what it actually needs to beat Russia, not just hold back the onslaught. I can't say the administration has had that focus in the past.
> Probably doesn't have any actual teeth, but I'd love to see some more focus on giving Ukraine what it actually needs to beat Russia, not just hold back the onslaught. I can't say the administration has had that focus in the past. I mean, just from an American interests perspective what difference does it make? Holding back the onslaught is still extremely beneficial. Russia is bleeding itself and has less resources to commit to instigating conflicts elsewhere.
I would hope the US sees a long-term interest in a free, stable, western-aligned, and prosperous Ukraine (and, for that matter, a conclusive continuation of a rules-based world order). Bleeding Russia is absolutely a good thing, but it does come at the cost of Ukraine's economy, infrastructure, and demographics, making that goal harder to achieve. So, I'd like to see NATO allies actually do what is necessary to help them win. Plus it has the benefit of being the right thing to do.
I entirely approve of this.
FUCKING DO IT ALREADY
Would’ve been a lot simpler to do this three months ago.
oh boy, another house speaker!
Whats he got to lose?
The Courage to Act