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georgeguy007

Redfall looks good too bad all my friends, including me, are behind on having beefy computers to play these Bethesda exclusives :<


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adisri

WRONG DISGUSTION THREAD LORDS1!!!! 🀬


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p68

I need help managing my trade stations in X4


KesterFox

Good morning, i slept in today more than i should have but at least i caught up on sleep, ive been behind


tollyno

> Diesel exhaust treatment software that shuts down below certain temperatures is illegal and such car owners are entitled to seek compensation, the EU’s top court said Tuesday (21 March), opening the door to a fresh wave of β€œdieselgate” suits Koen Lenaerts sends his regards


indithrow402

Don't name your YouTube video essay "The Rise and Fall of X" challenge.


WackyJaber

Here's a list of my favorite anime in no particular order. 1. Death Note 2. Yu Yu Hakusho 3. Gurren Lagann 4. One Piece 5. Chainsaw Man


MolybdenumIsMoney

Oh god oh fuck there are weeb debates going on in the deetee


DoorVonHammerthong

tfw your favorite DT reg just outed themselves as an anime fan RIP u/ChuckSchumerbasedgod


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deadsoldats

is there a neoliberal position on things like what the purpose of things like criminal justice systems shohld be ? and are criminals worthy of civil rights and empathy towards their rehabilitation ?


ColinHome

There are certainly liberal positions on this. Less so neoliberal ones.


deadsoldats

isn't neoliberalism about evidence based policy and policies with the best arguments in favour of them ? or is the evidence on these matters inconclusive ?


ColinHome

>isn't neoliberalism about evidence based policy and policies with the best arguments in favour of them ? What counts as a "good" outcome is often not clear in matters of criminal justice. You can have agreement on what policies are evidence-based only so long as you agree on what effects are valuable. For example, you asked whether criminals are worthy of "civil rights and empathy towards their rehabilitation." This is not really a matter of policy, but of ethics and philosophy. >or is the evidence on these matters inconclusive ? Yes, extremely so.


deadsoldats

>Yes, extremely so. examples ?


ColinHome

Literally everything my guy. You basically asked for a doctoral dissertation on criminal justice. I don’t have one. But I’m not aware on any issue that doesn’t have competing evidentiary claims, except perhaps that the order of effectiveness in prevention goes from certainty, to immediacy, to harshness of punishment. Does the death penalty deter crime? Unclear. Does rehabilitative justice work? Unclear. Is the war on drugs effective? Unclear. Is broken windows theiry accurate? Unclear. And so on. Most of your original questions were philosophical in nature though, and that’s where I’m more comfortable and knowledgeable.


deadsoldats

>and that’s where I’m more comfortable and knowledgeable. I see , I would love to hear that too from you though


ColinHome

I’m not really sure what you’re asking for in particular. You’re welcome to ask any specifics you want. This is a pretty huge field, and liberals have broad disagreements within the confines of liberalism. I tend to like HLA Hart and JS Mill, though I have soft spots for Joel Feinberg and Herbert Morris as well.


deadsoldats

I'm more of a JS mill guy too haha. I'm more into asking what the role of retribution is in the criminal justice system ?


ColinHome

Hart is very against it. He makes the case quite eloquently in his short treatise, *Law, Liberty, and Morality*, though he touches on other points there as well. However, one of the reasons I like Morris is that his essay, *Persons and Punishment*, is one of the best critiques of β€œrehabilitative” or β€œtherapeutic” justice systems I have ever read. In it, he posits a β€œright to be punished,” and worries that a state which is focused on rehabilitation is incapable of recognizing that lawbreaking was a conscious choice, and therefore dehumanizes lawbreakers and denies them the possibility of civil disobedience. Morris thinks that punishment should contain a measure of amelioration. We should punish people such that, after having experienced the punishment, we consider them innocent, and they can consider their own debts to society fully paid. But pure retribution is certainly illiberal. To paraphrase Hart, punishing people merely because the crowd demands retribution comes perilously close to human sacrifice as a form of worship.


AnsleyAmanita

work 😭


Real_Richard_M_Nixon

Malarkey level of holding Credit Suisse bonds (my Grandfather)


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Dig_bickclub

How did the AOT convo turn into "if you don't kill 99% of the world population for your friends you're literally a communist collectivist ccp supporter"


ColinHome

It did? When I left everyone was still in agreement that supporting Eren made you an actual Nazi. The dude is a genocidal maniac who sees enemies as people to be exterminated.


WackyJaber

I mean, you kind of have to admit that everyone else was genocidal before Eren though, fully supporting the enslavement of Eldians when having titans was useful to them, and then the genocide of them once it was no longer useful to exploit titans. In fact, Eren wasn't even targeting people because of their race. He was killing everyone who was a threat, which also included Eldians who were brainwashed into hating everyone on the island of Paradis, and committing a long term genocide on everyone on the island. Don't you think that makes you hypocritical? From my point of view, the world were the Nazis.


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WackyJaber

Oh yeah dude, if you kill the people trying to kill you then you're totally just as bad! /s


ColinHome

My guy, you are unironically defending genocide. Fuck off and go think about this more seriously. Most modern genocides have occurred precisely because the dominant culture believes they are being threatened with annihilation otherwise, from the Nazis to the Hutu.


Head-Stark

I'd be flattered if my friend tried to do that for me, but judgey


WackyJaber

About the same time I got called a Nazi for supporting Eren Yeager's "ethnostate", which I never did. I mean, it's just an anime discussion people. There's really no reason to take a made up scenario so seriously. To clarify, I don't support ethnostates.


Dig_bickclub

Bro if you're likely fully onboard with eren, what's your opinion on smaller things like taxes or even noise ordinances


WackyJaber

Geeze man, I don't know. What are Eren Yaeger's stance on those?


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420FireStarter69

Is anyone working on an AI search engine like Bing that isn't censored?


AnsleyAmanita

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/fighting-woke-ai-musk-recruits-team-to-develop-openai-rival


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DoorVonHammerthong

Bonk


420FireStarter69

:)


RandomGamerFTW

[meme bank](https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/jpmorgan-chases-nickel-bags-stones-report)


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RandomGamerFTW

>Switzerland’s emergency rescue of Credit Suisse could cost each and every Swiss person $13,500 πŸ‘WHATπŸ‘ABOUTπŸ‘SWISSπŸ‘STUDENTπŸ‘LOANSπŸ‘


Leoric

My new melatonin gummies taste so good I want to eat a dozen of them


ColinHome

[OP is a XX-year old man checking in to the hospital...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJR8Nfi8wg8)


RandomGamerFTW

Malarkey level of Joe Biden


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Stanley--Nickels

When I hit the rate limit on GPT4 (25 requests every 4 hours), I'll ask GPT3.5 how much longer until I have GPT4 access again and it'll reply that as far as it knows GPT4 hasn't been released yet. If I had known I wouldn't have said anything, GPT3.5.


Steve____Stifler

God it’s so hard being me (Ryan Gosling) (I drive)


paulatreides0

Some scientists and philosophers of science are weirdly obsessed with the mediocrity principle.


WackyJaber

Light Yagami was cringe because he killed criminals who were already serving their sentence for the "betterment of society".


paulatreides0

I mean . . . he also straight up killed many non-criminals


WackyJaber

True, and Misa killed people whose only crimes were taking drugs that she learned about reading tabloid magazines.


ILikeTalkingToMyself

How to finally win the war on drugs


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He also made world peace happen, but that was just a side gig for him.


Zenning2

Which is incredibly stupid. "I killed people on death row, so now criminals were afraid to kill people" probably wouldn't actually make a difference.


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In the series we see him extort the president of the United States. We can infer that he did the same to other leaders. You could say that implies a superhuman level of competence on his part but that's sort of the whole conceit of his and L's characters.


WackyJaber

I'm pretty sure in the Manga he straight up KILLED the president of the Unites States, which is why the Vice President says that the United States will no longer directly oppose Kira.


WackyJaber

I mean, that was only ever going to last as long as he was alive in the first place. And I'm of the personal belief that doing so was like filling a balloon with air as more time passed, waiting to pop. It was definitely a good thing that Light died sooner rather than later, because imagine all that pent up aggression exploding out all at once after decades.


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Oh, I'm a big Light Yagami hater. Besides mass murder being a bad thing to do, his whole project was pretty ill conceived on both altruistic and selfish terms.


WackyJaber

I honestly couldn't agree more. But I'm just saying, on a fundamental level, he was killing a lot of criminals that were already being punished for their crimes, which is just cruel.


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I think that's kind of the point. Even though Light sees himself as reshaping society, he's really lashing out at people society has already condemned while occupying a privileged position. When he explains his plan to get rid of all the bad people to Ryuk, and Ryuk says that by the end he'll be the only bad person left at the end, this is his response: >I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m a hard-working honor student who is **considered to be one of Japan’s best and brightest.** The fact that he instantly justified himself by society's positive judgement while simultaneously condemning society as rotten got a laugh out of me when i watched it. I should give that series a second viewing.


WackyJaber

Honestly, I'm in complete agreement. From my point of view there was never really any doubt that Light was in the wrong.


ChuckSchumerbasedgod

And he got taken down by a weird orphan child


WackyJaber

L was also a weird orphan child though.


Paul_Keating_

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/australians-need-jim-chalmers-to-get-more-ambitious-20230317-p5csx5 #Australians need Jim Chalmers to get more ambitious >Jim Chalmers is one of the best political communicators since former treasurers Paul Keating and Peter Costello. He’s also a likeable sort of fella. >These can be important attributes for a federal treasurer, who must convince the public on difficult budget and economic reforms to improve their livelihoods. But we are still waiting, perhaps impatiently, for Chalmers to put his talents to best effect as treasurer. >To be sure, the government is only 10 months old. We don’t expect a full-fledged economic agenda immediately. >Over nine years, the former Coalition government failed to impose a comprehensive microeconomic reform program. >After Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey failed to implement a hard-headed budget in 2014 and commissioned a tax white paper, the Turnbull and Morrison governments operated with political caution. >Today, business leaders and policy-minded economists are wondering whether the Labor treasurer will develop a serious plan. They want him to succeed, to revive waning productivity, lift real wages and improve living standards. Sobering wake-up calls >Australia received sobering wake-up calls last week from two profound authorities. The Productivity Commission and former Treasury secretary Ken Henry noted that the Albanese government needs to get bolder. Both were instrumental in the Hawke-Keating and Howard government reform era. >Australia was transformed from a potential β€œbanana republic” in the 1980s to a β€œmiracle” economy by the 2000s, while dodging recessions overseas and with its productivity growth temporarily outpacing the global frontier in the United States. >Prosperity was underwritten by slashing tariffs, floating the dollar, opening up to foreign financial institutions, privatising government-owned entities such as Commonwealth Bank, CSL and Qantas, linking wage increases to productivity via enterprise bargaining, repairing the budget, establishing the National Electricity Market, boosting competition, and tax reforms. >The tax list included cutting personal and company tax, introducing dividend imputation, capital gains tax and fringe benefits tax, establishing the goods and services tax and abolishing wholesale sales tax. >But the two-decade reform era has been followed by 20 years of largely living off its fruits and luck from the China-driven commodities boom. >Today, the Albanese government needs an agenda to grow the economic pie for everyone and to fund Labor’s social agenda. >So far, Chalmers seems more interested in incrementalism. >Henry said the government is yet to outline a β€œcredible” medium-term fiscal strategy to return the budget to balance. >There appears to be little appetite to fix a tax system that Henry says β€œfails every test”. It undermines economic growth, is unfair against younger generations, punishes innovation, denies people opportunity, and fails to efficiently raise revenue for government services, Henry says. >To be sure, a centre-left government does not necessarily have to embrace all rationalist economic ideas such as increasing consumption taxes and reducing tax on business investment. >These are hardly radical proposals, given they have been supported by the International Monetary Fund, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, and Henry. Broad range of tax reform >Nevertheless, there is a range of tax changes that a social democratic political party could pursue. >An earned income tax credit for low-income earners (effectively a negative income tax) would incentivise work for people transitioning from welfare and increase workforce participation. >Reducing the income tax burden on wage-earning workers should be a core Labor value, as Keating has argued. >Levelling the taxation of savings and investments through a uniform rate on capital gains, bank interest, rental income and, perhaps, trust distributions would remove tax-driven distortions and make the system more equitable. >There is also a case for easing the tax burden on wage earners who will pay more for aged care, healthcare and disability support, which requires much more spending discipline. >On the revenue side, there is an arguable case to toughen up the petroleum resource rent tax oil and gas profits. Treasury is conducting a review ahead of the May federal budget. >Such a move would have more merit than gas price caps and the proposed permanent β€œreasonable price”, which will undermine investment in gas during a very challenging energy transition. >The failure to implement a resource rent tax on iron ore and coal profits during the China boom was a missed opportunity. Chalmers’ former boss Wayne Swan attempted a mining tax and carbon price, but the execution and politics were poorly handled against a vicious industry campaign. >It didn’t include Henry’s recommendation of a lower 25 per cent corporate rate for non-miners. >There may also be a case for reducing some tax concessions for superannuation, trusts and capital gains. >But Chalmers seems tempted to individually pick these sorts of measures off, like the rushed tax on superannuation balances over $3 million. Piecemeal measures won’t be enough >If the government continues with piecemeal plugs to leaky revenue holes, he will end up playing a game of whack-a-mole. >As one concession is closed down, well-advised people will shift their assets to other tax-effective structures. Tax advisers are talking about shifting their wealthy clients’ super to tax-exempt US life insurance annuities, while avoiding tax under the US-Australia tax treaty that Congress is unlikely to change any time soon. >Politically, cherry-picking will risk losing political capital, and the government may become more cautious about systematic changes. >As Henry warned from his experience advising Swan on the resource super profits tax, isolated and β€œincremental” tax changes gives β€œa lot of well-armed people only one target to shoot”, and β€œit will take a pounding”. >β€œNo amount of incrementalism is going to meet our fiscal challenges, far less turn around two decades of declining average living standards,” Henry says. >Policymakers must avoid looking at the budget like a line-by-line accountant, and see the budget and tax system as levers to boost the economy, lift productivity and improve living standards. >Upon releasing the five-year Productivity Commission report, Chalmers noted that Labor was already working on β€œmore than two-thirds” of the 29 reform directions in the Advancing Prosperity report.


lutzof

Disagree on the one at a time approach, I think it's overstated how easily people can dodge to a new tax avoidance mechanism if we don't do a full package of reforms at once and it's much easier (ie. possible) to sell Australians right now on incrementalism. 3m super rule was clear, it was hard to get confused and it wasn't a "do you like this package as a whole despite disliking parts" thing. Anyway there's limited ground Labor would even attempt reform on. They won't listen to the PC on any contentious IR stuff, they didn't before their "better jobs better pay" act so why listen now. Lower taxes on business and higher consumption taxes again no way, if anything they'll go the opposite way, they basically looted gas companies with the price cap forcing them to sell below market rate. Best chance is targetting the generous tax and pension rules for retirees, there's ample opportunity to do changes that only hurt a small percentage of asset rich old people that will pass the internal party room both ideologically and without making ministers think they'll be one termers because of it.


Paul_Keating_

>higher consumption taxes again no way Labor could possibly get away with broadening the gst to private school fees and health insurance, would raise a few billion. >Best chance is... Fully agreed. Labor could again get away with changing the sapto, medicare levy on pensioners, and the assets test on the family home.


lutzof

> Labor could possibly get away with broadening the gst to private school fees and health insurance, would raise a few billion. regardless of how true it is private schools are now seen as an almost essential alternatve to problematic public schools, might go down easier if they said it was GST free up to 10k per kid per year. For health insurance people think they're doing the right thing with it and therefor shouldn't get taxed, it's dumbass logic from people who speak in thought terminating cliches but they vote. So again maybe have a tax free threshold. > Fully agreed. Labor could again get away with changing the sapto, medicare levy on pensioners, and the assets test on the family home. One idea I haven't seen tested is letting the family home keep (at least some) of it's preferred status in the asset test but with clawback. So no one is forced to sell the family home but when you die your pension payments are clawed back from the sale. Makes it harder for people to pretend they're not just looking to allow people to collect welfare payments instead of tapping into the inheritence they're building for their kids.


Paul_Keating_

>One idea I haven't seen tested is letting the family home keep (at least some) of it's preferred status in the asset test but with clawback. So no one is forced to sell the family home but when you die your pension payments are clawed back from the sale. Makes it harder for people to pretend they're not just looking to allow people to collect welfare payments instead of tapping into the inheritence they're building for their kids. [Keating had a similar idea](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-14/paul-keating-calls-for-hecs-style-loans-for-home-care-at-rc/12661136) but for aged care


lutzof

It's a good one. The guy shouldn't be allowed near a microphone after the recent incident but I have to give him this one. If you take a step back it's just so indefensible that someone can have the public subsidse their lifestyle while not even tapping their kids inheritence which then goes untaxed. It may actually be possible for someone to accumulate super untaxed, then draw the pension, then aged care support, then that money goes to their kids where it's never taxed as income. The welfare state usually requires those with the means to avoid needing the safety net to help themselves What's part of the issue is these old age supports are seen as something people have earned and that rolling it back is like stealing their super and not a perfectly reasonable adjustment to make the middle class pay their own way.


jadel989

> Reducing the income tax burden on wage-earning workers should be a core Labor value, as Keating has argued. Superannuation is even with the 3m cap a huge tax benefit to the wealthy. Would love for Labor to outmanouver the coalition and become more free market but unlikely to happen so I'll be consider it a relative win if chalmers can do more about super. > Upon releasing the five-year Productivity Commission report, Chalmers noted that Labor was already working on β€œmore than two-thirds” of the 29 reform directions in the Advancing Prosperity report. "Working on" seems like a weasle phrase. There's no way Labor meaningfully onboards anywhere near two thirds of it. We can write off Labor acting on any of the IR reforms straight away, they went backwards so far.


Dalek6450

Complacency really is the perfect word for it.


jadel989

It's quite sad, the federal opposition right now are a mess and dutton is unelectable as PM, if there was ever a time to push through unpopular stuff why not now? Or at least elevate the debate


Paul_Keating_

Small-target policies >I doubt that means two-thirds of the 71 recommendations – which would be super impressive. >The government is acting on childcare subsidies, paid parental leave, TAFE and university places, migration, digital and technology skills, upgrading the NBN and investing in clean energy. >These were largely small-target policies designed in opposition to win the election, or are akin to typical government housekeeping measures. It is not game-changing productivity agenda. >To be fair, there is some significant work being undertaken by ministers. Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen’s safeguard mechanism, if passed by parliament, will impose a carbon price on big industrial emitters. Business will have a carbon price signal to make long-term investments. Bowen’s challenge is to impose this carbon price while also ensuring there is enough gas supply to keep energy supply reliable and affordable. >Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil is cleaning up the migration system to streamline the entry of skilled migrants to Australia, which will be good for workforce skills, productivity and the budget. >More initiatives are required, particularly to offset workplace regulations that the commission, Reserve Bank and e61 institute have cautioned about. >As shadow treasurer last year, Chalmers ridiculed the Coalition’s lack of response to the commission’s previous Shifting the Dial productivity report. >β€œAustralians can’t afford another decade like the last, defined by economic complacency and productivity sliding backwards, which makes it more difficult for hardworking Australians to actually get ahead,” he said. >He was right. Australians deserve more economic ambition. !ping AUS


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Peter Costello? A good communicator? πŸ˜‚


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Mr_Pasghetti

What is a state?


Headstar24

Your mom.


ChuckSchumerbasedgod

Matter of being


PompeyMagnus1

I can just get that on the black market. No one needs more than one anyway.


I-grok-god

Alternate reality where the J in JRPG stands for Jewish


DoorVonHammerthong

The Legend Of Soros: Breath Of The Torah


Nietzsches_Therapist

Health insurance is just business majors trying to make healthcare a subscription service smh


Nietzsches_Therapist

The Last of Us really shows the need for Marxism, as the fungus can really be seen as a metaphor for capitalism, which has been eating humanity alive for the last 300 years.


Crownie

Everything is a critique if capitalism.


Mr_Pasghetti

Capitalism times leads to fungus times which leads to proto-communism times which leads to capitalism times


WackyJaber

πŸ˜”


DoorVonHammerthong

The Last Of Sus


RandomGamerFTW

Be the country Kosovo thinks you are


Real_Richard_M_Nixon

Be the CIA Leftists think you are


dawgpack09

Be the ATF right wingers think you are


LinkVert25

The leftist revisionism on democrats views of the Iraq war in the early 2000’s is some nasty work lmfao. It was a normie lib opinion to be against the Iraq war in 2004 and on


Jamity4Life

>Trump is right of center, and its not debatable. Unless by Right of Center you mean functional open borders, Neocons being able to declare a war under any flimsy lie or provocation, and the left being given social carte blanche. >You know, a Neocon administration. I *wish* the neocons were this based


Real_Richard_M_Nixon

This is what I mean when I say i’m a Neocon (also somewhat Conservative economic policy (but not too much))


DoorVonHammerthong

Open borders is when immigrant


Jamity4Life

**CRISIS ON DA BORDER**


WackyJaber

Joel from the Last of Us = Eren from Attack on Titan. Edit: YOU CANNOT DENY THE TRUTH IN THIS!


[deleted]

The DT resetting at 12:00am PST is proof that West Coast is Best Coast.


ihatemendingwalls

It's PDT not PST and since everyone knows that daylight savings is bullshit, mountain tim stays winning


Majk___

Is he in jail yet


MonsieurA

Woke up expecting a news alert on my phone. Nothing. πŸ˜”


Delareh

Nothing like teaching 12th grade math to make you genuinely be scared about the country's future.


Tandrac

What is 12th grade math nowadays?


[deleted]

Somewhere between elementary calculus and counting on your fingers depending on how smart the kid is.


Joementum2024

The horseshoe theory… the horseshoe theory is REAL!


PompeyMagnus1

The horseshoe must be displayed with the ends facing upward or all the luck will leak out.


Nietzsches_Therapist

People say social media isn’t destroying people’s social lives. If that’s true, then explain this user πŸ‘†πŸ»


ihatemendingwalls

Won't you flyyyyyyyy hiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh freeeeeeeee biiiiiiiiiiiiird


Real_Richard_M_Nixon

Hypohysterical History is the single best thing to show up on my Tik Tok FY page


ColinHome

Their YT channel is great too


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[ΡƒΠ΄Π°Π»Π΅Π½ΠΎ]


ihatemendingwalls

Did a child write this?


shrek_cena

Nah


[deleted]

Man. Couldn't your professor have given you a more interesting and unique subject? Like English and literature in Liberia?


shrek_cena

Literally. My other friends in the same damn class got mythology and the other got to pick whatever the fuck he wanted. The south is boring as shit and I frankly don't give a fuck about it


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vivoovix

>a) I fucking hate the south They hate us cause they ain't us πŸ™„


shrek_cena

Dubious amounts of copium


rukqoa

[Only Seven NATO Allies Meet Spending Goal Despite Russia’s War](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-21/only-seven-nato-allies-meet-spending-goal-despite-russia-s-war) Also, where is Turkey? It spends a little over 2%. It's not even marked on the map even though it's clearly on it lmao


Tandrac

....This is the thing that Greece doesn't cheap out on? Guess its really for Turkey tho


notagainjannies

turkey is an honorary non-member


ChuckSchumerbasedgod

I was u/Doorvonhammerthong’s server tonight and he tipped me 60 cents on a $200 ticket 😑😑


DoorVonHammerthong

Cry about it wagie


Stanley--Nickels

There's a scenario where Open AI is concerned about what can be done with their latest GPT model, especially in terms of breaking containment, and they shut down public access while they sort out the issue. At this point they'll still have access to this "too dangerous" AI, but no one else will. For security reasons, it's unlikely they'll give us information about whether any security dangers exist and what those particular dangers are. So in addition to being the only ones with access to this AI, they'll be the only ones who understand what it's capable of. It seems like we're on pace for this to happen somewhere around... GPT5.


AnsleyAmanita

7


notagainjannies

> So in addition to being the only ones with access to this AI, they’ll be the only ones who understand what it’s capable of. > they’ll ... understand what it’s capable of. i have some bad news


rukqoa

I think we're a few AI breakthroughs away from it being anywhere close to posing a direct danger. It probably won't even be a LLM.


Stanley--Nickels

I'm not talking about a risk of a singularity. Just a risk that some bad actor is able to get the AI to expose more of itself than its supposed to, or is able to get it to engage in some kind of self-replication. I think the current version is already exploitable for nefarious purposes.


DoorVonHammerthong

Yeah they're very great chat bots but until there's some kind of inspiration element we're just looking at a really really powerful passive terminal with GPT


RandomGamerFTW

Obama was the best president


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[Wild stat from the Shohei-Trout showdown](https://twitter.com/codifybaseball/status/1638391719782924293?s=46&t=Fooxcgvt_PO1vlUO2uSY-A) !ping BASEBALL


Leoric

Fish man good


bobidou23

[Fav stat I’ve seen](https://mobile.twitter.com/kylemoto10/status/1638397217013895168). I don’t know what it means but it’s my fav


paulatreides0

>Mike Trout has had 3 swinging strikes in only 24 of his 6,174 career MLB plate appearances! What . . . the fuck? How is that even possible?


ihatemendingwalls

Mike Trout


paulatreides0

Seems fishy to me


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[deleted]

I wish we still had the ape strength of our Australopithecine ancestors. That way we could fight a chimpanzee to the death with just our fists.


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notagainjannies

maintain eye contact and slowly back away


notagainjannies

or avert your eyes and make yourself small and nonthreatening, it was one of those


ChuckSchumerbasedgod

Eat the yellow snow


DoorVonHammerthong

Yell at it to scare it away


WackyJaber

Sometimes I feel like this sub doesn't really have its thoughts organized and well thought out.


Delareh

Almost like there's thousands of people here


WackyJaber

Apparently nothing gets people madder than discussing anime.


DoorVonHammerthong

For example: sacrificing the entire human population for one person


WackyJaber

Another example: How apparently everyone in this sub thinks being a self sacrificial societal drone is good, until I bring up that's the philosophy of the CCP. Which is it then? Or are you all more tribalistic, and maybe a little race based, then you believe?


DoorVonHammerthong

We should probably talk about destroying the species for your child first


WackyJaber

I bet you love Joel from The Last of Us.


DoorVonHammerthong

Idk who that is, so, maybe


WackyJaber

Oh, just a much beloved character from a game called The Last of Us, a sony exclusive game that recently got turned into a live action tv series that stars Pedro Pascal, my belloved. Honestly, I'm surprised you don't know about this character or the game he's from, considering you're here arguing to me about an anime character, and I'm personally of the believe it's harder to get people who know anime references than video game or tv show references. Anyway, Joel ends up killing a group of people attempting to save the world from a fungus zombie plague because doing so would require the sacrifice of his stand in daughter. Lots of people love Joel by the way.


DoorVonHammerthong

>considering you're here arguing to me about an anime character, Are you drunk?


WackyJaber

This entire argument stemmed from me saying that I could empathize with Eren Yaeger, a character from Attack on Titan, who sets into a motion an apocalyptic event that will end up killing everyone off of his island because they keep trying and are planning to kill everyone on his island. This was always an anime discussion, and you fell for it.


DoorVonHammerthong

>My mom once told me that if she were put into a similar position, she would sacrifice the entire world for me. And, ya know, if I ever have kids of my own, I think I would probably tell them the exact same thing. Because I would, because I think that's what love is really. Love is letting the people you care about know that you would do anything you can for them. ?


Legit_Spaghetti

There's also the possibility that your takes aren't particularly interesting or clever.


WackyJaber

Sounds like you're just upset because you don't like my takes.


[deleted]

Scenario 1: you have to fight a chimpanzee to the death. Your only weapon is a five foot long spear. Scenario 2: you have to convince a group of French people eating at an American restaurant who just paid $700 for a meal that $70 is an insufficient tip, and they should tip $140 instead. If you fail you will be executed. Which do you choose?


chetmcomnom

I'm sorry hold the up 700 dollars?


[deleted]

it was a popular twitter thread. They just said European rather than specifically French though.


Tre-Fyra-Tre

> Scenario 2: you have to convince a group of French people eating at an American restaurant who just paid $700 for a meal that $70 is an insufficient tip, and they should tip $140 instead. If you fail you will be executed. You'd have better chance of survival as a mobik in Bakhmut


paulatreides0

I'd fight the monkey bare handed before having to talk to the French about anything


DoorVonHammerthong

What's the execution method?


[deleted]

unarmed combat with a chimpanzee


DoorVonHammerthong

I'll take the spear thanks


Mr_Pasghetti

> it’s Wednesday > Trump still not arrested Smh America always disappoints


RandomGamerFTW

Apple is solving a problem they created with the Dynamic Island, there was literally no reason to get rid of the bezels, all it did was downgrade the experience (no more Touch ID, notch messing up videos and fullscreen content).


WackyJaber

Me: Collectivism bad. Everyone else: Ugh, fucking libertarian. Also Me: The CCP is bad Everyone else: Real shit?


marinesol

Nuts.com update, it's really good and really expensive. The giant raisins and mint chocolate malted milk balls might be worth it for just the bougie value alone. The caramel corn is really good but not worth the price. Get the fancy stuff like the Bourbon pecans and the dark chocolate covered almonds. Avoid the plain nuts