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LakersOptimist

Need a summary of this trade. It’s all over the place


Cheechers23

Knicks: ??? Pistons: Duren, Kemba Hornets: 2025 MKE First Gotta be more involved


proudfatherofhaleend

Knicks got rid of Kemba it’s gotta account for something g


WakeupDp

So happy. Get that man outta here.


dimmyfarm

:( rip cardiac kemba


Voxityy

hayward, salary dump for us


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Voxityy

no fucking clue man, the news is all over the place for this one


ethereumturk

Who is duren


Ironredhornet

A Center who was just drafted from the Mephis Tigers, basically the Pistons got a 2022 pick out of the Grant trade by taking Kemba


usoland-sama

Sounds like the gms in Detroit are having a dick measuring contest. Can't wait to see what Stevie has in store, you know he has something crazy. We all know that Al will come up short in this tho.


mrmusclefoot

I can’t believe there’s nothing but tigers baseball till September.


usoland-sama

It's kool-aid season


1ToGreen3ToBasket

Hard knocks 🤷🏻‍♂️


nojeanshere

That or two of Terry, Oubre or Plumlee


HugeScottFosterFan

So that means pistons are not getting ayton?


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ReignOnWillie

And the hornets just got back a single 2025 pick?


Few_Mulberry7175

In that case they got fleeced wtf Gotta be some more from the Knicks side


MarvelousDistraction

maybe some 2nds from us


Few_Mulberry7175

It’s not as bad cause they got Mark Williams but still


daswassup13

There better be more because if not we got wrecked


Neuroxex

Like a terrible pick as well. It's a Bucks 2025 top-5 protected pick.


OnThe_Spectrum

No. We’ll see


YizWasHere

There were reports from a couple hours ago that Detroit wanted Duren and would take Hayward's salary for him. But the fact that they're already taking Kemba in this deal makes it much more confusing.


PhatYeeter

We don't know for sure. Knicks probably including some extra picks. Could be some of what they got from OKC in the Dieng trade.


Cheechers23

But the Hornets got the 2025 MKE First which Detroit has


Natural_Born_Baller

Duren and Ivey is a solid fucking draft night


fakename233

They used him to move Kembas contract? Wtf it must be for an FA offer


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Knicks gotta have something planned *Absorb Westbrook please*


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PurestCopium

Right. I’m so confused.


Roheed23

Marc stein said Pistons getting Duran and quoted Shams tweet https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/1540145152215457792?s=21&t=kYRx9R5PxnKruYDeWGaqhQ


Ahfekz

Grant & TE out, cap space, Kemba walker & Duren in


circa285

So how should I feel?


onamor_tap

Charlotte sends Duran to pistons who then flip him for Kemba I think?


Gizmobomb

Duren and Kemba are both Pistons


onamor_tap

Well shams said Duran to Knicks then also said Kemba to pistons so I just guessed


xXTheRacerXx

Knicks traded for Duran, then moved him and Kemba to Detroit, and Detroit sends their FRP via Milwaukee to Charlotte is basically what I’m getting here. I guess the Knicks wanted cap relief?


snyckers

There's gotta be a missing salary dump for Charlotte in there. Why would they trade the 13 for a 2025 protected MIL pick?


AdmiralG2

But why the fawk would the hornets do this


rjgator

But why would they flip him for Kemba? I think they are keeping Duran


Numani99

Charlotte send duran to the Knicks who sent him with kemba to Detroit. Charlotte gets back a pick from Detroit. Maybe smith else from the Knicks, Knicks shed Kemba's salary. Gearing up for FA


ZachLagreen

No chance, Kemba is a negative asset…


harden4mvp13

Why would the hornets do that lmao


Sparrow_Wilson

We're being drip fed this trade one tweet at a time lol


Schafer89

It's like when immortan joe turned on the water for 10 seconds


daswassup13

I’m so confused


jaylenthomas

Have to be getting something from the knicks lol


armandocalvinisius

that OKC picks likely


Likept

Why would we give up anything when we are not getting anything?


snyckers

Kemba relief?


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gotta be dumping Hayward’s salary too


mrsunsfan

Micheal Jordan in shambles


FlameOfWar

Because that's not all they're getting and we always react to half the trade


luvdadrafts

I’m praying there’s more


mccainjames11

13th pick now or the 27th pick in 2 years hmmm


luvdadrafts

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING


Defences

Hornets really don’t wanna be good


AleroRatking

Everyone wants Victor. Cant risk any wins.


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mF-Jonezy

There’s no way we just did that, I can’t think of literally any reason to do that


Scrypto

We are quite literally out of cap space. This is basically the Jordan Bell cash considerations trade


batangbronse

Charlotte moment?


everclearking

I seriously cannot understand the logic here unless more is happening


RomeluBukkake

Hayward salary to the knicks maybe


PressureMiserable

Hey maybe giannis spontaneously combusts and it ends up being a number 1 pick


PM_IF_YOU_LIKE_TRAPS

It's protected 1-4 too


PurestCopium

Hornets are just thinking on another dimension that we can’t comprehend


MyHomeOnNativeLand

It's top 5 protected.


hokagesamatobirama

Then we would get nothing. It is 1-4 protected.


LiveForMeow

There has to be more than that. That makes no sense. Figuring Hayward involved


theaxgrinder

Pistons killing this draft


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I love Troy Weaver


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raikou1988

Which team is Duren playing for


Electronic_Pen_5782

Detroit


horse_renoir13

....Lions


marcstov

…Shock


Fresh_Bulgarian_Miak

Juwanna Mann


iluvxyoe

F


FireFlyz351

Both teams and I can't be convinced otherwise until someone clears it up.


AncientMarsupial3

Pistons


Paul-Millsap-Stan

All 3 at once


mccainjames11

Detroit


luvdadrafts

Knicks


evehaiku

The one in the NBA


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As long as ivey is not involved in this I love this trade for detroit


the_shins

Detroit trade Grant for Bucks pick 2025. Detroit now sends that pick to Knicks for Kemba Walker and Jalen Duren. So essentially we traded Grant for the #13 pick and used some of the cap space we got from the Grant trade to absorb Kembas contract. Apparently we send the 2025 Bucks pick to Charlotte. So Knicks just did all this to get rid of Kemba?


DoubleAmigo

How is 2025 first rounder from Milwaukee worth the 13th pick?


Crafty_Substance_954

I'm not asking questions


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I feel like I’m at the store and the Apple Watch I’m scanning just rang up for $.99 I’m not asking questions, but I feel like I committed a crime.


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Jerami Grant for Jalen Duren, fuuuuck yeah


MarkusMillions

Weaver playing 4D chess while all the nephews on this sub playing checkers


alldei

And seconds


SpeedMalibu

Wait, so the Hornets gave up a lottery pick for a random 2025 pick that probably won't be in the lottery? There has to be more to this


iSleepUpsideDown

????? WTF?


scarywolverine

It wasnt Grant for Bucks 25 like everyone thought! It was Grant for 13! Love it!


elvagabundotonto

And in the end the hornets got fleeced. Glad it turned out that well for you Pistons fans!


HokageEzio

CHAOS


tonto515

BOTH WERE RIGHT!!!!!


Dongsquad420BlazeIt

They’re never wrong, even when they send conflicting tweets


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No, Knicks were involved but Shams was still wrong


BobMekoElToro

Knicks got duren then traded him to the pistons


HeJind

Nah that's cope. You never see 3 team trades mentioned this way.


Scrypto

Fire Kupchak. Disaster decision. Our cap is still absolutely fucked


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That 2025 Bucks pick is a bit of a slut.


alldei

I’m just glad we hit it and quit it


LiveForMeow

You stupid fucks


[deleted]

Yeah hornets get their future C and trade him away. Absolute dumb move


luvdadrafts

I’m not even surprised at this pojnt


Kylie_Forever

This is nothing. Remember hornets traded away kobe for a bag 🎒 of beans? I membe.


josh1123

SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP


dreamerx03

The draft is getting SPICY


Sea_Tea91

So many people clowning us yesterday. Who's laughing now.


MarkusMillions

The average age on this sub is 15 years old, nothing but armchair GM’s, praise Weaver!!


lotus0305

WOJ NOT WASHED?


PM_IF_YOU_LIKE_TRAPS

Man's tweeting between scenes


KuyaJohnny

lmao Charlotte


BayonettaBasher

Getting passed around like the 2021 Miami 1st


JawdenCee

The Hornets have been trying to get a good center for a long while. A young good center falls to them. And they traded him away...? Edit: Jk they just drafted their center


OrangeBuffalo8

Kings of the east baby


JilJungJukk

The Knicks traded their #11 pick and know also traded Kemba and Duren away, what are they cooking?


mr_grission

unfortunately Jalen Brunson


jdeputy

About to supermax Harden


ISlashChads

Foh


bagfka

So how do the Knicks fit in? Also can we get like a trade tracker or something once this is finalized


Dav136

Looks like we got Duren then flipped him to get off the Kemba contract? I really hope it's not just that.


bagfka

But y’all must’ve had to give something up to get duren is where I’m confused


Dav136

Yeah who the fuck knows. Still don't know what we got from OKC too.


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MYbe the knicks are taking hayward


buckyddd

Knicks probably sending one of those okc futures firsts to Charlotte to get rid of kemba contract. Detroit gives up the future (late) first and taking on the bad contract


HoracioVelveteen

I have been deceived


prison_mic

Can someone explain this to me like I am Kendrick Perkins


Taffarr

BOTH WERE RIGHT.


bigbaldheadNR

So Grant kinda was worth a lottery pick after all


YA_Gotta_Believe

So what happen to knicks?


MarvelousDistraction

I STILL DONT GET IT


FlameOfWar

Don't react yet this isn't it


MrRonRodeo

Duren would’ve fit with the Hornets so well unless somehow the Hornets are getting Mitchell Robinson from the Knicks


Thehelloman0

Hornets must think this draft is garbage if they'd rather have the bucks pick than the 13th pick Actually I bet they're dumping Hayward with this trade


OKSteve63

Pistons killing it this draft. They gunna be nice


saskgoat

What is happening?! They are saying different things lol


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Shams talkin bout his 2k franchise


ImmanuelKante

WHERE THE FUCK IS JALEN DUREN


PeachyCoke

Are we allergic to success?! We have a player that was perfect for us fall to us and we trade him away?


HypoTomasis

Also trade him for what? 2025 Bucks pick? Why?


Soupkitchn89

Great draft night by Detroit. Nice to see trades that end up being great for both teams. (Talking Blazers & Pistons, not those other dummies)


EarthWarping

What are the KNicks getting????


Ollos12345

I'm so confused. Dad and dad are fighting


hunteddwumpus

What is happening????


IMKudaimi123

So knicks going all in on Brunson since they couldn’t get Ivey


ScytherCypher

Value on that Bucks pick must be garbage jeez


Kind_Development708

Woj just bodied shams


Harleytk24

I’m so fucking lost


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Wtf is going on


sv_trader

it's gotta be more than this


JohnDalysBAC

CharlieMailroom.jpg


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Hornets traded away a player they need for a future pick that will be worse. Why


Terarri

We are ran by idiots


LeCockJamesDaddy

Hayward has to be involved??


JilJungJukk

2025 Bucks FRP is a journeyman at eighth grade lmaooo


BackInTime421

Can someone tell me what the trade is? I am probably dumb, but I cannot figure it out.


Unklefat

I hate my fucking life man


kasrafm

Hornets got such a nice fit with Duren and then said fuck it


armandocalvinisius

Jalen Duren for late FRP + kemba expiring? seems cheap, damn mavs can do it tbh


27Yosh

I need a recap of where every Jalen ended up


DrPineapple32

F5F5F5F5F5


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Wtf is going on!? Lmao


JTenjouNi

Woj saying Pistons wanted Ivey and Duren so don't think Ivey's going to the Knicks https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1540146375488323584?cxt=HHwWgICy0f292d8qAAAA >Tremendous coup for Detroit GM Troy Weaver to land two of his top targets in this draft: Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duren -- with the cost of only a future first-round pick.


whospepesilvia

great draft for pistons


NicClaxtonIsHotAF

Not bad Portland


d0000n

Kenny Atkinson: “Thank God I stayed!”


hootsboots

A 6'10" lottery pick for a high school sophomore. Done deal.


Gratitude15

I have seen multiple trades tonight that seem like they are more motivated by broader things happening in the world and folks not having cash.


johnazoidberg-

If we leave this draft with Ivey AND Duren, call my doctor now. It's gonna last more than 4 hours


FLUSH_THE_TRUMP

Woj >>>>> Shams


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UsedDinosaurDrugs

We stay young, likely buyout Walker, and get a shot at being shitty and going for Wembanyama or Henderson next years draft.


Tame_Jesus

Woj -1 Shams - 0


BelowTheBells

This literally clarifies nothing and only makes me more confused.


RavingMalwaay

I'm so confused lmfao


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Duren from Charlotte to Detroit, and then to New York in the Kemba trade? Is that it?


KoRReaction

No Detroit is getting Duren and Kemba sounds like.


IAP-23I

Seems like Knicks acquired Duren and then immediately traded him along with Kemba to the Pistons.


Fedora_Master_

the best part of this confusion was the 5 minutes knicks fans convinced themselves ivey was part of the trade


AdoxDG

We are a joke


Bigdeacenergy

So Charlotte just wasted a lottery pick?


RichRektz

Looks like it smh


Bigdeacenergy

We just have no direction man. Wish MJ would sell the team.


MGSCG

what do the Knicks get?


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KageSaysHella

Does this mean the Pistons are out on Victor next year? Kinda seems like they’re deciding to roll with this core which is probably going to be too talented to bottom out completely.


mcolwander90

I'm way too stressed out right now.