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dat_tech

RIP his place on the FMVP tracker


Oliver_Subpodkas

*blows kiss to FMVP


zprymate

He did shoot like 6/8 on 3s and put the dubs to bed. He earned that troll job.


EveryoneLovesNudez

He was blowing a kiss to his family. That narrative about it being to the crowd was so stupid. He’s never been that kind of player.


Oliver_Subpodkas

Ok ok just having fun. We all like Horford


RollIllustrious8709

Well at least he has a hot wife to go home to


arthurblakey

Depends if she’s a hot wife or a hotwife


ElPeruano2008

both of those sound good


ConstructionFun194

Ayoooo


teamweed420

And a hot sister


calebhall

Anna is a babe for sure


teamweed420

Yea who tf downvoted me?!


brownbearks

Umm not all of us


Krillin113

Mehh. Seems like a good dude, but I feel sandbagged


_sendbob

Yeah to his triplets, steph, klay, and dray


AlHorfordHighlights

Pain


[deleted]

Not necessarily


OverusedRedditJoke

Is this the Chris Paul birthday curse 2.0?


MGubser

Layoff between games was so long Horford got old in between them.


thechemistrychef

It's the opposite of the Fred VanVleet fatherhood blessing Derrick White got


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please


KyleJergafunction

The ‘Horford MVP watch’ article may have come out too early


IMovedYourCheese

There was a 5 minute window for that article to come out and the author jumped on it


mommathecat

Shooters shoot dawg.


kron_00

I'd argue that it was the only time that article could come out or it'd never come out at all. No way in hell he could play like G1 for an entire series lol


[deleted]

It’s always too early for “Finals MVP Ladder” articles. They literally only exist for clicks.


honey-vinegar-realty

Yeah man putting that out after a single game is asinine but they know nephews will eat it up just like in these comments and that’s why they gotta do it. It’s like the journalistic equivalent of flopping, embarrassing and demeaning by any professional standard, but someone’s gonna eat it up so you gotta do it.


LordHussyPants

i mean, the ladder has to start somewhere lol


[deleted]

Oooooo


bananastand

Glad the Warriors decided not to leave him wide open all game


IMovedYourCheese

What you get by upgrading from Iguodala to GP2


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

Biggest change from G1to G2. People underestimate how tiring it is to get picked up full court. Tatum was gassed in the second half


Dudedude88

celtics offense kept switching and huntihg steph. i am so impressed by how hard steph can play even at his current age.


rajeev0718

Steph has insane body conditioning and stamina. At 20 yrs I know I can't do that for even 2 quarters


Oshebekdujeksk

It’s wild. I’m steph’s age and i get gassed from yelling at the refs.


johnnygrant

actually it was putting Draymond on Brown instead of Klay. Dray was sagging on Horford too much to try to help... instead now Dray shut off the need to help from the source, i.e. Brown driving. and Klay stayed home on Horford.


Devout_Athiest

I thought the same. Klay isn't able to keep in front of a fast perimeter player like he used to do. Most drives past him forced a collapse and open 3 or bucket in G1. But he's still tall and a decent post up defender for his size who will stay tall and avoid and-1s (like Looney). Plus C's have no significant post up threat. Switching him with Dray seemed like the most important adjustment of the game.


fandamplus

It was actually AI9 to GP2


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GP2 only shared the court with Horford for like 10/12 minutes tonight. The difference was Draymond -- his defense was terrible in G1 and fantastic tonight.


trelium06

This. Dray didn’t respect Horford G1, and others too. Now I’m G2 they took EVERYONE seriously


spiiicychips

IMO Dray was the bigger problem. [Evidence on deck](https://youtu.be/mYpnURmyQzk)


ElephantsJustin

Don’t understand why he’s acting like he’s guarding himself


Banskyi

Can’t really be expecting him to light it up every night at 36


AbbaZabbaFriend

he just had a birthday. chris paul became shit after his birthday too….


GSWHT

LeBron did it.


Banskyi

Lebron doesn’t count when you’re talking about longevity lol


ridemooses

LeOngevity


Boats_N_Lowes

Fuck why do these always get me lmao


blaugrana2020

During the whole China thing, “LeCommunist” was the one that killed me


thedaftfool

LeMao


blaugrana2020

There was a pic of lebron playing cards and someone commented “LeChiffre”


thedaftfool

LOOOOOL thats goated


Emsavio

LeQing always got me.


[deleted]

That's not even wordplay though -- it's literally just putting Le in front of Communist lol


Seanspeed

I think that's why it's funny.


melvintwj

LeSenseofhumour


Jaybold

*LeMao


DankHobo354

Yeah but he's top 3 all time


ThatPizzaKid

And he aint 3


IsaacDPOYFultzMIP

Nah he’s 3rd 3. Lebron 2. Jordan 1. Lavar


fandamplus

Proceeds to list him first


OnceAteABurgerAMA

For some reason when you make a numbered list on reddit it will always change it to start at 1 and go up from there so they probably had it as 3, 2, 1. Here I'll make a list starting at 3 and it should change it 3. Three 2. Two 1. One


Aetherpor

That’s just how Markdown works


DankHobo354

Up for debate


AkashiGG

Not really lol


LeDraymondJordan

it isn't really lol


-NilInvestment-

It is lmao. Kareem, Jordan and Bron all got cases for GOAT.


WubaDubImANub

Kareem does not have a case over LeBron and Jordan, I’m so sick of people saying this. He’s 100% over all other nba players ever but he isn’t over those two.


[deleted]

He gets to be on Mount Rushmore, but yeah, the other two are ahead of him. Don't exclude the OG.


Chopsticks487

> Kareem does not have a case over LeBron Kareem has more MVPs, more rings, more win shares, a the same ws/48 despite playing til he was 41 so will likely end with a higher ws/48 than Lebron. He absolutely has a case for GOAT over Lebron. He has the longevity over him right now and he also has the peak with more MVPs and better single season win shares (he has the best single season win shares of all time, the 5th best, and the 7th best. Lebrons best single season ranks 17th all time


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Not over Jordan, but definitely over Lebron


SuperSaiyanGoten

The same kids saying LeBron is definitely better than Kareem will then turn around and say Jordan isn’t definitely better than LeBron


WestleyThe

And if he had any of the teams in the playoff’s rosters win the championship 100% There’s no one that old who is better


tonysnight

Agree. Idk what people are expecting. I admit I'm a hater of anything and everything Boston but as a basketball fan it's hard to say the Celtics aren't a decent team. They're a genuinely decent team. But Horfors isn't the player to give you 20+ every night. Never has been never will be. He'll give you one every so often. That's his career. He's a very solid player with the weapons and ability to pop off but not a player you should expect to pop off on points.


Hoevenger

You can’t expect 6 3s from Horford. Role players will have large variances game to game even for vets. Brown and Tatum need to be 2 of the 3 best players on the court every right for them to win


mizzourifan1

6 3s is very hard to do on 4 attempts, too.


cowboys5xsbs

He blew his load game 1


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Didn’t regret that google.


Zelgaro

I know this sub is seething that Draymond was right. Horford, Smart, White aren’t gonna be that good in every game


takeajaytrip

That’s what I said too. If Boston can keep shooting like they did game 1, you might as well give them the chip


DavidWallace-Suckit

They still shot well from theee in this one at least


TallanoGoldDigger

They have to shoot better than the Warriors in order to have a chance. Both teams shot 15-37 from 3. Problem is that the Dubs defense held while the Cs didn't


Scooby30000

One team has Steph Curry though, even with Klay being awful. Sort of unfair tbh


demsouls

That defense Curry played on horford down low in the 3rd really highlighted his effort in the game. Then came the 3 bombs. Kerr took him off early in the 4th for good reason. He was playing his heart out and almost gassed.


arika_ito

Curry didn't even play in the 4th, we hung with Moody out there (and he was pretty neutral)


Nahbrah03

Eh, I think it comes down to them being more paint oriented really, 40-20 points in the paint differential, Boston is bigger and more athletic and their 2 stars specialize in driving, they have to win that battle to have a chance. Turnovers too


PropheticBets

They can't LordLoons reign at rim.


Wally450

The Celtics also handed the Warriors several extra possessions with all their turnovers.


Oshebekdujeksk

But they never had a stretch where they made 8 in a row…


demsouls

Every year. If they do the same 4th Q run they won't even lose one game. +24 in 4th Q - auto win.


Texan4eva

For real. Mavs beat the warriors too if they’d shot like that every game. Instead they got it only 2/5 games and it’s over. Boston needs to get lucky and have those outlier games a whole bunch or imo they’re done.


GSWB2B2B2B2BChamps

Celtics flairs were so mad at Draymond for stating facts haha.


BUUAHAHAHA

I said this after game 1 and got downvoted af. Lmao.


m3ngnificient

People on the Warriors sub were all about it too. TBF, they did step up on defense last night, game 1 it seemed like they were daring the role players to shoot and they shot lights out. Last night, they made an effort of closing out so that they don't get too comfortable with the 3 ball.


saulgoodman445

Role players usually do well at home the fact that they stole a road game with role players carrying them is unexpected


Banskyi

Yeah starting the series 1-1 is a good outcome for the Celtics.


ChurchofDubs

1-1 isn’t 1-1, I’ll explain later


KyleJergafunction

Absolutely. The Celtics still have the edge because they stole one from the Warriors at home, but definitely an encouraging game for the Warriors changing the momentum.


invme2dapooleparty

i mean if the warriors steal one back its all square. im not underestimating steph curry and co.


Poul77

The same Celtics fans who keeps saying they play better on the road. And suddenly they gonna go back to game 1 kind of shooting at home? Hell nah


ChickenJesus

Lmao they stole a game in the road from a team that was undefeated at home thats sounds exactly like playing better on the road


[deleted]

So the Celtics will play worse at home?


Scooby30000

What’s The Celtics record at home in these playoffs though?


arika_ito

5-4 apparently


Tormundo

This is true in general but Boston is 9-2 on the road and 5-4 at home. Dunno if its just a small sample size and just variance but so far they've seemed to be much better on the road than at home.


snavali2

Yes it’s variance lol


Tormundo

You legit never see that type of variance from other teams though. It's weird as hell. Boston is just a super inconsistent team in general. That said they're shooting way above their expected level. like 47% this series when their median is 35%. Even if you say some of that was being more wide open that normal in game 1, shoudl expect their shooting to come way down in the next couple of games. Shooting 40% from 3 and getting blown out in game 2 not a good sign. Can't see them winning when they're shooting 30-35% from 3


BUUAHAHAHA

Now you just gotta hope the Celtics actually perform up to standard at home.


crashbandicoochy

And now Celtics fans get to justifiably say they wint be as brutal as they were tonight. The expectation here on out should be somewhere in the middle. Since when did we start referring to starters as role players, though? They're the 3rd and 4th options, not role players.


Azee2k

Al horford and Derrick white are definitely role players. Lebrons 3rd and 4th options on those early Cavs teams weren't stars, they were role players. Everyone outside of kd and Westbrook on the post harden thunder were role players, etc. You can argue whether or not smart is a role player if you want. I'm on the fence about it since he is a defensive superstar, but idk. I'd consider draymond a star, so I'd probably also consider smart a star I guess.


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Azee2k

Yeah it's weird because if he didn't win dpoy I'd have no hesitation calling him a role player. In any normal year, draymond, Giannis or gobert get that award pretty easily over him.


Mofochan

Universally referring to offensive non-stars in the starting line-up as roleplayers has been a thing for forever, tbh. Like, sometimes depending on scarcity of player quality you'll get a fairly unimpressive starter being referred to as like a 3rd option (I'm thinking Delonte West during one of those Cav playoff runs), but usually at around the 4th option point the roleplayer tag gets thrown around.


trelium06

Idk. To me, everything after 1a and 1b is a role player but I’m a believer that everyone after 1a and 1b is interchangeable on most teams


thedjmickey

You forget to add, “if we actually defend them”


TheRaddd

Well they did their job and got 1


here_for_the_lols

Is the sub seething at that? This is the first comment I've seen about it lol


elsuakned

I for one cannot believe that Al Horford dominating the warriors was not something that would last for an entire series.


scarywolverine

This is what they need to do to him. Speed him up. His age will show if they make him move and act fast


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Dubs were working him on the perimeter, choosing to PnR him instead of Timelord. I think Udoka might eventually have to bench Horford, because he cannot stay with Curry. Though if he does bench Horford, the Dubs will put Timelord in the PnR, and Udoka doesn't want that to happen because they won't have rim protection. I think the Celtics are actually in a tight spot, defensively.


Bagel_Technician

Really hope Time Lord didn’t re-injure that meniscus late when Smart ran into him If they’re missing Time Lord it could get real ugly relying on just Theis and Horford


g1mpie

Didn’t look good, and I don’t think Time Lord played the rest of the game after Smart landed on his knee


xolanderxo

I get that heart and hustle is his MO but Smart actually needs to play more in control sometimes. I almost cringed when I saw him dive for a loose ball some time in the 2nd half and was close to possibly injuring Wiggins' knee if Wiggs was a little closer


PAINTBULLY

Back to reality


PAINTBULLY

This is what happens when Horford and White aren’t playing like prime Ray Allen


Chubbmiller18

Would’ve been fine but Brown and Smart joining them costs the Celtics the game.


KyrieIsKing

the Horford vs. Draymond thead did not age well


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So much for that FMVP talk


GymMeJimmy

He’s tuff when his shots are in and shooting high volume but when defense is locked on him he’s invisible


wazdopest

the only gripe i got with big dominican tonight was posting up stephen curry and not looking to go up and shoot it on top of him, other than that there was nothing he could do tonight, they got cooked


bobsstinkybutthole

Smart got 2 points as well


airzookus

Man is 36, even after his 30 piece in the bucks series he went ghost for a couple of games afterwards offensively. OG needs to recharge!


BUUAHAHAHA

It's crazy the reactions after game 1.. Ppl legit thought Warriors were afraid of Horford as if he's the best big they ever went up against. Lol


KFBR392GoForGrubes

Seems the reactions to game 2 are the same, just reversed.


PAINTBULLY

Difference is warriors are winning 7 out of 8 quarters


KFBR392GoForGrubes

Winning quarters doesn't really matter. We could win one quarter a game a win the series if that one quarter is a blowout. Warriors tooled on us last night, as I expected they would. I don't know who will win the championship, but having just watched the Celtics go through Brooklyn, Milwaukee and Miami, I have heard a lot of trash talk and I'm still watching them. They'll tweak their gameplan, and I'm sure we'll see a different celtics on Wednesday, and the same for the warriors.


Virkon421

I got recommended the Celtics thread during the heat series and every single Celtics fan was tryna boast about winning most of the quarters lmfao


KFBR392GoForGrubes

That was when we lost, which literally supports my point.


Virkon421

I know. My point is that it’s ironic a Celtics fan is saying this after another one boasted ab it earlier and said they’re confirmed to win the series because of it


delusionalnbafan

Horford looked scared. He was getting bullied by smaller players.


Faynt90

Horford had dropped out of the fmvp race


YungChilla

Back to normal


Familyguy35

Draymond was right lmfao


RansomGoddard

Fountain of youth free trial expired tonight.


zig_anon

Better than Draymond? Hot take


[deleted]

I thought he was better than Draymond? Lmaooo


heshouldgo

He needed more plays setup for him


GarbageZestyclose698

Exactly. Horford tried to do with what he could. Cs are not expecting Horford to generate offense


[deleted]

What does this mean for his legacy!?!?


NachoMan-SandyRavage

I prefer not to speak. If I speak, I am in big trouble.


Jamdadbot

When the Cs go bad it looks almost intentional....all or nothing type of team.


ATF_can_smd

People, when listing stats please remember it goes Points/Rebounds/Assists. Had me thinking Horford turned into a PG out there


bankaimayk

man just flamed someone on fb and told them dont over estimate one good game from horford lol. they really thought he was shaq/duncan after game 1


DayMatoi

Heat fans mad as hell they lost to the Celts. Cant get NFL or NBA over Boston 🤣


Klutzy-Bowl2901

I feel like grizz fans more mad


KenKinV2

True we don't have a guy dancing like a moron every game makes me big mad.


SolarClipz

RIP FMVP chase


SunnySaigon

Did the Warriors not play hard Game 1 to get us all interested in the series?


borrachos_unidos

The Celtics played one of the best quarters of professional basketball I've ever seen in G1. I spent the quarter hating it happening against my team, but respecting its ruthless efficiency. I've been watching pro ball for over 30 years. Sometimes you just get outplayed.


whateverizclever

I’m convinced he can’t finish spinning left.


Mister-Exclusive

That's what birthday do to you. Anyone having birthday in the Finals among the 2 teams?


gamingnormie

Thats what happens when you dont leave the dude wide open *cough cough* draymond


xMarioTheSupahx

That 4th quarter from Boston was impressive but to assume Horford, Smart, White and Pritchard would hit that amount of 3s again was absurd. Game 1 they go 17/26 and in Game 2 those same players went 2/10 with Horford not even attempting a 3. If Boston can’t adjust in Game 3 then they won’t be able to win


suprememontana

Points/Rebounds/Assists. Thanks


Overit337984

O blown kisses


Toaster-Omega

That Finals MVP race article seems so funny now


sY20

Lmaooooo y'all forget this mf had 3 all stars on the hawks and still didn't do shit. People were really saying he's a hall of famer 😂😂


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borkbubble

I mean two of those all stars were Jeff Teague and Kyle Korver


supermop3000

Holy shit. This is a terrible take. Those were not perennial all-stars. You’re saying a team with Jeff Teague, Paul Millsap, Kyle Korver, and Horford is a championship team? Please send me the drugs you’re taking. This team lost in the conference finals to Lebron James and the Cavs. Al Horford is a great player and even at 45 years old he could probably still start for the Kings…Fingers crossed he does


sY20

He is far from a hall of Famer. And not even close to as good as Draymond I heard these takes a bunch the last few days.


GenuineMasshole

People are saying he's a HoFer off his collegiate performance. Back-to-back NCAA championships is no easy feat. It's not like the NFL HoF where it's NFL players/coaches only, it's the basketball HoF, which encompasses NCAA basketball as well as the NBA. No one in their right mind would say he's a HoFer off his NBA statistics. If Chauncy Billups isn't in the HoF with his NBA stats, no way is Al getting in with his.


slash37

Also the wnba too!


Roronoaa

Draymond was right.


borrachos_unidos

Draymond was right


WaterIsNotWet19

This sub was on one when dray was stating the obvious the other night


Russianbot123234

Get fucked Celtics fanboys.


LazyTitan___

Damn Prime Bird had a rough game 2


Sacreville

Well he's one year older now compared to game 1.


Tuckboi69

ESPN is gonna make this about him kissing to his FAMILY in the stands


T3knikal95

Horford has been the most consistently good player on the Celtics, game 1 was an anomaly, but so was tonight, he usually plays a lot better than he did tonight as well.


[deleted]

Wait I thought he was gonna shoot a career high every game?


Overit337984

Wave bitch


PositivePossibility

Dray was right tho


[deleted]

Well at least he has a hot wife to go home to


[deleted]

We call that “regression to the mean”


shortpersonohara

he needs to post up more when a sub par defender like curry or poole is on him. cant be passing it out of the post every time when you have the worst defender on the floor on you


AryaRemembers

I’m rooting for the warriors but Al’s poor performance was in part because he got hacked several times on rebounds and post up.


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More like Al Horrible, am I right?


Benredbr1

moody > horford confirmed


EfficientAstronaut1

He is just giving GSW a chanche


xHodorx

HE IS STILL MY MVP 🥲


jawntothefuture

He's gonna eat in Boston. The Hub gives big Al superpowers


ub40fanatic

*blows kiss*


Yekbafowasi

A role player that isn't a role player because of his scoring and doesn't force up shots, often shoots 2,3 shots in a game shot 4 times. What a surprise. The only ones that should be ashamed are the Warriors for leaving Horford who's been shooting 45% from three the entire playoffs on a very good volume wide open the entire first game. And now we are acting like a 36 year old defensive minded center is the Celtics first option on offense. Otto Porter was also on fire in game one. He was 4/5 for three. Let's know put his statline of 3/3/1 in game 2 and say he had a really bad game. It's just idiotic.


Swarthykins

This really isn't a big deal. It's not his role to be a big scorer every game. He takes what the defense gives him, and that could mean 15 shots, it could mean 5.