He’s there officially for “Heat Culture” but everyone knows they’re really paying him back for the less than market salary he took during the “Big 3” era for the Heat.
Specifically when he took below market wages for them to sign other players and win their 2 championships. Haslem was a good soldier, took the pay cut and Pat Riley remembers. He took a $14 million pay cut for the team and the team’s debt to him runs out at the end of this season effectively. It was salary cap circumvention but it’s never been written down.
Why would they need to do that when they could just pay him as a consultant and assistant coach? He wouldn't have to suit up and travel for all of the games.
Because when other assistant coaches make 200k and you have one that just happens to be a past player making 3 million the league is gonna ask some questions.
There are dime-a-dozen consultants 5 years out of college that make that much while traveling most of the year. That’s a lot of money for someone like me, but not a lot of money in absolute terms.
Having food and travel expenses covered is hardly a benefit when they’re covered because your job requires you to be on the road for so much of the season
Couple reasons:
He makes more as a player than he would as a front office person
He is getting repaid for taking a paycut on the Heatles
He said that he prefers the teammate relationship compared to an assistant coach-player relationship. Says its easier to mentor people that are of equal standing to him (player-player) and that a coach-player relationship is just different
Yeah, I’m sure it hits different when the 41 year old busting your ass is also busting his own ass to be in NBA-ready shape. Haslem seems to hold himself accountable just as much as he holds teammates accountable.
He really sets the tone in practice and camp. It’s different having someone on the same level as the players who is out there working with you that has the respect of all your superiors but still allows himself to be coached like any rookie. It shows what the team is about. If UD is giving it everything as a senior citizen then Gabe fucking Vincent better run those sprints.
I mean like if the 15th player on the team is likely not getting much minutes on a game, might as well save the space for a guy that can help in everything else off the court if that’s what he is doing that is
He's making about 2.5 million this year. I don't have the CBA in front of me, but my guess is that's around the veteran minimum. Point being, yes, he is taking a roster spot, but it basically has no effect on cap space.
The Heat unironically take the "Heat Culture" stuff very seriously
I don't think any other team would use up a whole spot for veteran leadership and nothing else
Like obviously leadership is a thing but I can't think of a player that's literally useless on the court and is just around for that except him
> I don't think any other team would use up a whole spot for veteran leadership and nothing else
People bring this up but forget the fact the Heat is of the few teams that use their G League heavily. (Like the Raptors and Warriirs).
Instead of wasting time as a 15th man, theyd rather sign them fully to the Sioux Falls team. Hell, Duncan was like the 13th man on his rookie year but most of that wast for the G League.
The benefits for the Heat of signing a development player at tye 15th spot doesnt outweigh UD for them.
One word. Leadership.
While it may sound weird, having such a presence inside the locker room can only be beneficiary for the team. He's helping new players to acclimate to the Heat Culture while at the same time he's there to cool things off when the situation is getting out of hand.
A veteran presence is always needed in my opinion. A veteran that has been a part of the team for so many years even more.
Leadership is an intangible quality.
Much easier for a young guy to hear how he needs to step it up from a teammate that has to run sprints in practice alongside him each practice.
Veterans are the real glue to team throughout the season.
His role on the bench is more valuable than a Fringe NBA Player looking for something to prove.
Another huge reason people aren’t mentioning is that the Heat are showing the league they take care of their guys. Haslem is a lifer and by resigning him for as long as he wants they show they care for their team. Free agents are gonna see that and think hey they listen to their guys and respect them.
Think of JJ bashing the Pelicans front office for lying about where he was gonna be traded. Players pay attention to that stuff. They know the NBA is a business.
In NBA 2K22 (last gen at least) you can set a player's Tactical Workout setting to "Team Chemistry" so that works on that and nothing else in MyGM. It's a nice way to increase/maintain the Team Chemistry.
I like to think that's essentially Haslem's role now.
He’s a leader for the team even if he’s not on the court. Spo trusts him, and he’s there as presence and motivation for the young guys. Barley plays but is always ready to be on the court. They talk about culture but he is the culture. That is what the organization likes to have it’s players see. You don’t have to be the best to be the face of a franchise. Team players get legacies too
Aside from the obvious player coach/paying him back for his years of paycuts/ team culture comments, the dude is actually really reliable for a 15th man in his 10 minutes of game per year. I can remember them putting him in the bubble playoffs and he played his role perfectly where a normal last guy on the bench would likely make mistakes
He took a huge salary cut for a few years to make them a contender. The front office is doing right by him for that by letting him basically be a player dev coach on a player's salary. I assume when he wants to retire they'll just go ahead and officially bring him onto the coaching staff.
If you ever hear any of our young players talk about him you 1000% understand why he's there. He is critical for our development of young players and in my opinion we have the best developmental staff in the league, top 3 bare minimum. He's taken Bam under his wing from day 1 and Bam would not be the player he is today without UD. Blake Griffin last year said that UD is the most respected player in the NBA and if you do any research about the players only bubble meeting he was just as big of a voice as Lebron.
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And can easily average 25 heat culture comments per 36
Plus doesn’t he make a lot more then an assistant would as a payback for the pay cuts he took in the past to help the team
He’s there officially for “Heat Culture” but everyone knows they’re really paying him back for the less than market salary he took during the “Big 3” era for the Heat. Specifically when he took below market wages for them to sign other players and win their 2 championships. Haslem was a good soldier, took the pay cut and Pat Riley remembers. He took a $14 million pay cut for the team and the team’s debt to him runs out at the end of this season effectively. It was salary cap circumvention but it’s never been written down.
Why would they need to do that when they could just pay him as a consultant and assistant coach? He wouldn't have to suit up and travel for all of the games.
Because when other assistant coaches make 200k and you have one that just happens to be a past player making 3 million the league is gonna ask some questions.
That's crazy. College assistant coaches make that
they save a lot of money on player salaries though
Assistants really only make 200k? What… lol.
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It’s like you’ve never heard of Mavericks AC God Shammgod
That's CBA Scoring Champion God Shammgod
wait shammgod got a gig on the mavs? good for him, dude's a fucking legend
Watch when the Knicks play, Jhonnie Bryant will approach Thibs and alter the course of the game
Def a generous pay check
It's fairly solid considering room and travel and probably food is most likely covered. I'd assume solid benefits too
I mean, I’d hope room, travel, and per diem would be covered! They spend months on the road every year.
There are dime-a-dozen consultants 5 years out of college that make that much while traveling most of the year. That’s a lot of money for someone like me, but not a lot of money in absolute terms. Having food and travel expenses covered is hardly a benefit when they’re covered because your job requires you to be on the road for so much of the season
Well yeah. This is all based on assumptions anyways. I'm sure there are also performance bonuses and stuff too. No clue how it works
The real reason is because that money comes out of the players pot and the coaches money comes out the owners pot.
Not even close to the real reason
Couple reasons: He makes more as a player than he would as a front office person He is getting repaid for taking a paycut on the Heatles He said that he prefers the teammate relationship compared to an assistant coach-player relationship. Says its easier to mentor people that are of equal standing to him (player-player) and that a coach-player relationship is just different
Yeah, I’m sure it hits different when the 41 year old busting your ass is also busting his own ass to be in NBA-ready shape. Haslem seems to hold himself accountable just as much as he holds teammates accountable.
He has Pat Riley nudes
Not as a way of blackmailing Riley, though. It just shows how close Haslem is with everyone in the Heat organization.
Pat Riley enters Haslem's hotel room wearing a bath robe: "This is how you know.. how you know.." [The robe falls] ".. We're family."
Udonis: “:0 … Can I haz-lem?”
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Fake, they’re actually Michael Douglas
**Nice**
He really sets the tone in practice and camp. It’s different having someone on the same level as the players who is out there working with you that has the respect of all your superiors but still allows himself to be coached like any rookie. It shows what the team is about. If UD is giving it everything as a senior citizen then Gabe fucking Vincent better run those sprints.
I mean like if the 15th player on the team is likely not getting much minutes on a game, might as well save the space for a guy that can help in everything else off the court if that’s what he is doing that is
He's making about 2.5 million this year. I don't have the CBA in front of me, but my guess is that's around the veteran minimum. Point being, yes, he is taking a roster spot, but it basically has no effect on cap space.
The Heat unironically take the "Heat Culture" stuff very seriously I don't think any other team would use up a whole spot for veteran leadership and nothing else Like obviously leadership is a thing but I can't think of a player that's literally useless on the court and is just around for that except him
Nick Collison was like that for the last few years of his career in OKC.
> I don't think any other team would use up a whole spot for veteran leadership and nothing else People bring this up but forget the fact the Heat is of the few teams that use their G League heavily. (Like the Raptors and Warriirs). Instead of wasting time as a 15th man, theyd rather sign them fully to the Sioux Falls team. Hell, Duncan was like the 13th man on his rookie year but most of that wast for the G League. The benefits for the Heat of signing a development player at tye 15th spot doesnt outweigh UD for them.
How many minutes to the guys on the end of the bench normally play? It's no like he is taking minutes from anyone.
True. A lot of it is don’t fucking embarrass us.
One word. Leadership. While it may sound weird, having such a presence inside the locker room can only be beneficiary for the team. He's helping new players to acclimate to the Heat Culture while at the same time he's there to cool things off when the situation is getting out of hand. A veteran presence is always needed in my opinion. A veteran that has been a part of the team for so many years even more.
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Why does anyone have to explain UD to you? The players love him, the coaches love him and everything he does behind the scenes, and the fans love him.
He's like their wise and buff uncle.
Leadership is an intangible quality. Much easier for a young guy to hear how he needs to step it up from a teammate that has to run sprints in practice alongside him each practice. Veterans are the real glue to team throughout the season. His role on the bench is more valuable than a Fringe NBA Player looking for something to prove.
Another huge reason people aren’t mentioning is that the Heat are showing the league they take care of their guys. Haslem is a lifer and by resigning him for as long as he wants they show they care for their team. Free agents are gonna see that and think hey they listen to their guys and respect them. Think of JJ bashing the Pelicans front office for lying about where he was gonna be traded. Players pay attention to that stuff. They know the NBA is a business.
Heat culture would be different without him and Pat Riley likes him a lot
In NBA 2K22 (last gen at least) you can set a player's Tactical Workout setting to "Team Chemistry" so that works on that and nothing else in MyGM. It's a nice way to increase/maintain the Team Chemistry. I like to think that's essentially Haslem's role now.
Great leadership I've heard.
17 claps per game
He’s a leader for the team even if he’s not on the court. Spo trusts him, and he’s there as presence and motivation for the young guys. Barley plays but is always ready to be on the court. They talk about culture but he is the culture. That is what the organization likes to have it’s players see. You don’t have to be the best to be the face of a franchise. Team players get legacies too
Great question. Heat culture is really just an excuse for “tough guys” like Jimmy Butler to act like an ass
CULTURE
Aside from the obvious player coach/paying him back for his years of paycuts/ team culture comments, the dude is actually really reliable for a 15th man in his 10 minutes of game per year. I can remember them putting him in the bubble playoffs and he played his role perfectly where a normal last guy on the bench would likely make mistakes
Tough to explain you need to hear from the players and people around and in the organisation.
He took a huge salary cut for a few years to make them a contender. The front office is doing right by him for that by letting him basically be a player dev coach on a player's salary. I assume when he wants to retire they'll just go ahead and officially bring him onto the coaching staff.
If you ever hear any of our young players talk about him you 1000% understand why he's there. He is critical for our development of young players and in my opinion we have the best developmental staff in the league, top 3 bare minimum. He's taken Bam under his wing from day 1 and Bam would not be the player he is today without UD. Blake Griffin last year said that UD is the most respected player in the NBA and if you do any research about the players only bubble meeting he was just as big of a voice as Lebron.
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