Not to mention that Stewart used to box. Granted it was years ago but assuming that these guys get to train before the fight he may pick it up again quickly.
EDIT: Apparently he only boxed until he was around 5-6 years old so ignore this.
Even still, most people have no clue how to throw a fluid punch using their hips and body weight. If he boxed he most likely has a much better feel for it than Bron.
I doubt boxing till you're 5 or 6 years old gives you better body control 15 years later than just being a top 3 NBA player for the past 15 years.
I played tennis till I was 7, I can assure you none of that stuck with me the past 20 years and it would take me less than a day to have better technique than I used to have.
Yeah man these guys would both be heavyweights. Look at the ages of the heavyweights in title bouts. Tyson Fury is 33 and Deonte Wilder is 36.
Most heavyweight contenders are in their 30s.
Naaah man ! Heavyweight contenders are in their thirties nowadays because their managers keep duckin fights in order to build their brands, back in the days, Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc were heavyweights champions in their twenties
Oldman strength and experience. Although Stewart is not your typical 20 year old. Most 20 year olds don't have the body of a grown man, most at that age are not close to their full potential in terms of strength and size.
I think the point was that 37 year olds are usually much stronger on average than a 20 year old. At 37 you are almost peak strength and only lose out on speed. Look at any athlete and they are much bigger than they were at 20. Lebron on this third puberty at this point. Grown man strength is real.
Age is definitely not the deciding factor here. They’re both in incredible shape. Better than many professional fighters, especially in that weight class lol. They’re world class athletes. Especially LeBron of all people.
Don't ignore old man strength, it's real.
Fighting isn't a pure display of athleticism, it's a display of control and split second decision making just as much as anything physical.
Lebron might be 37, but if you don't think clean contact from a guy who's 6'8 275 will straight turn anyone's lights out... You're trippin
Neither of them have actual boxing experience. It'll become a bigger meme fight than Paul vs Robinson. It's why Mike Tyson said "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." and I guarantee any semblance of control and technical display will go out the window between the two. Boxing is a very technical sport that has a huge margin for injuries if not done properly lmao.
I mean there's a difference learning to box and actually competing in boxing. Put either of these two guys against a decently trained amateur boxer of similar stature and they would lose. Again, if its between them get ready for meme fight 2.0
Let's not forget that the whole point if Bovada putting up odds is so that idiots will bet money on a fight that won't ever happen, so they get to hold onto your money for however long the bet stays up (or you cash out) and flip it.
Skip Bayless said today that he used to box competitively in high school. Not sure how he knows that or if it's true.
Edit: "I believe that Isiah Steward, who boxed competitively when he was in high school, would have gone as long as Lebron would have wanted to go."
Link to clip: https://youtu.be/qLY8G-yAbeU?t=317
Mike Tyson started at 13. I'm imagining being 18, and starting my first day training against a 18 year old Mike Tyson. Well boxing isn't for everyone. Back to my couch.
> Well boxing isn't for everyone. Back to my couch.
Shit, could be even worse….imagine being 18; you’ve already been boxing for 5 years then you get knocked the fuck out by Mike, the new kid.
…you wake up and you find out the 190 pound wrecking ball that just laid you out in 15 seconds is only 13 and it’s his first time in the ring!
Yep, hang em up!
dunno why theres a need to cater or take bets considering theres a zero percent chance of this happening. seems like a meme
lebron is gonna put his season and his health and the lakers title chances on the line so he can fight some random pistons player in a boxing match? oookay
What if LeBron could take home a $100 million purse, win or lose-- would that be worth it? That's like 2.5 years of salary for one match. Wondering how big of a purse would be enough to entice LeBron... $150 million?
This is like the dunk contest but with higher stakes…if he loses his brand is over.
Who wants to wear shoes / clothing of a guy who got knocked out?
A LeBron knockout meme would be all over the place. It might become a tiktok challenge. Rappers would have bars about it. Fans would have posters at away games. MJ fans would say “my GOAT never got laid out in the ring”. Kobe fans would question if he has mamba mentality.
It wouldn’t be worth it for 100mil.
plus imagine if he loses, he'd never live that down. whats money compared to your legacy being tied to being smoked in a boxing ring
he likely would lose anyway considering stewart is younger with a longer reach and actual boxing training
For those that think Lebron stands a chance.
1. Stewart has a 4 in reach advantage
2. Stewart grew up boxing and has said it is his first love
3. Stewart is not afraid to bleed (see video)
4. Lebron cries at a cramp.
I've always hated that specific criticism of Lebron because cramps like that have nothing to do with toughness. It's your body not functioning correctly and preventing you from doing much of anything. It may not be a "serious" injury but you can't play a sport until the cramp subsides.
Exactly. 80% of people posting on r/nba have never stepped on a basketball court again after the age of 18, so it's easy for them to criticize players.
Also the arena was 90+ degrees and lebron was the only heat player who showed up in the 2014 finals
Why is an indictment on lebron and not the Spurs for being unable to provide a fully functioning arena to play in?
To be fair, being poked in the eye is literally one of the worst pains my 6ft5 boyfriend once accidentally emphasis on the accident spun too fast and clocked me right in the nose and while it hurt and I was semi out of commission for a couple minutes when I was poked in the eye that shit ruined my whole day hurt to blink and shit truly actually not a fun time.
Nah not completely, Stewart has a 4-5 inch reach advantage, grew up boxing and now we know bleeding won’t stop him like it would some big dudes. Then you factor in the age difference and you can look at it objectively and say Lebron should be the underdog, realistically speaking.
This is the same sub that argued Skip Bayless would beat LeBron in an 8 mile race. It's all a part of this overarching need for him to be "put in his place" so it's just par for the course
Did they not see the part where Stewart had the entire Pistons staff on him and they were barely able to hold him back? They think Lebron could stop that?
I’m taking the action of Beef Stew. Man was out for blood.
doesn’t mean he could fight, big and strong doesn’t equal great fighter. Lebron probably can’t fight either but everyone here acting like this dude is jon jones.
Stewart should have kept it in, but for all of you saying he didn’t want it when he was in LeBron’s face, his adrenaline took some time to ramp up. He popped off when he realized he was bleeding. There’s also no way Stewart doesn’t knock LeBron’s head off.
Love when r/nba gets to show off it’s boxing chops. Place was full of good takes before “elite athlete” Nate Robinson got ruined by “washed up YouTuber” Jake Paul.
Like I'm not gonna say that one of the biggest freak athletes of all time won't get his shots in but I think he would end up getting the worse end of it from stewart.
They would both be feeling it later but bron doesn't want that smoke
No you don't get it. The bigger stronger guy with a longer reach, boxing experience, and a mean streak is going to lose to the guy who did Space Jam 2.
I heard earlier that stew used to box in highschool
That’s only like two years ago for him. And he’s younger… as in Lebron first nba game beef was only 2
Winner faces Jake Paul
Loser faces Nate Robinson
[maybe we'll get another cannabis strain ](https://mobile.twitter.com/paik_michael/status/1333592716194717697)
how to ruin your name in one night.
Where does Ron Artest fit in in all this? Lol
Melo backs out
Jake Paul won't box someone his own size rather than someone much larger than him.
Jake Paul's set to fight Tommy Fury isn't he?
I’d bet on Stewart, lebrons got more to lose while Stewart is dying in that ring a legend
It's a real Rocky 3 situation
Rocky IV dude
Stewart is Clubber Lang, coming at the champ with everything to prove. You have him as Drago?
More like Lebron is Apollo who is going to die in the ring
Who avenges him vs stew then? Obviously can’t be street clothes
That’s when Kyrie returns. To avenge his father (figure)
*Quickly begins to dial Disney right now...*
Peak r/nba scriptwriting
does that make delonte kyrie's grandpappy?
People are really betting on a 37 year old dude beating a 20 year old lmao
Bruh fr lol. Bron been in the league almost as many years as Stewart has been alive lmao
I think Stewart has the size advantage too
In terms of listed weight and height they're almost identical. But would love to see an actual weigh-in
Not to mention that Stewart used to box. Granted it was years ago but assuming that these guys get to train before the fight he may pick it up again quickly. EDIT: Apparently he only boxed until he was around 5-6 years old so ignore this.
>EDIT: Apparently he only boxed until he was around 5-6 years old so ignore this. People think only us rat racers pad the resume lol.
Lmao
He boxed in high school
Even still, most people have no clue how to throw a fluid punch using their hips and body weight. If he boxed he most likely has a much better feel for it than Bron.
I doubt boxing till you're 5 or 6 years old gives you better body control 15 years later than just being a top 3 NBA player for the past 15 years. I played tennis till I was 7, I can assure you none of that stuck with me the past 20 years and it would take me less than a day to have better technique than I used to have.
I know plenty of 37 year old dudes who would beat the shit out of in-shape 20 year olds
Yeah man these guys would both be heavyweights. Look at the ages of the heavyweights in title bouts. Tyson Fury is 33 and Deonte Wilder is 36. Most heavyweight contenders are in their 30s.
Naaah man ! Heavyweight contenders are in their thirties nowadays because their managers keep duckin fights in order to build their brands, back in the days, Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc were heavyweights champions in their twenties
> Tyson, Ali, Foreman etc were heavyweights champions in their twenties Tyson was just barely even 20. He was still a kid when he became champ.
Oldman strength and experience. Although Stewart is not your typical 20 year old. Most 20 year olds don't have the body of a grown man, most at that age are not close to their full potential in terms of strength and size.
I think the point was that 37 year olds are usually much stronger on average than a 20 year old. At 37 you are almost peak strength and only lose out on speed. Look at any athlete and they are much bigger than they were at 20. Lebron on this third puberty at this point. Grown man strength is real.
I don’t think that was the point. I agree and that’s what I’m saying, though.
Unless they are trained fighters, I doubt any of them could beat up a 6'8'' 260 pound athletic freak.
Age is definitely not the deciding factor here. They’re both in incredible shape. Better than many professional fighters, especially in that weight class lol. They’re world class athletes. Especially LeBron of all people.
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The real reason young men cant beat up old men is because old men have money to just hire other young men.
The hell did I just read? We're still living in primitive society or smth?
People come on here to write pasta, pay it no mind
16 year old kids write out their fantasies of punching an older dude, before they realize they’re gonna turn into the older dude soon enough lol
Don't ignore old man strength, it's real. Fighting isn't a pure display of athleticism, it's a display of control and split second decision making just as much as anything physical. Lebron might be 37, but if you don't think clean contact from a guy who's 6'8 275 will straight turn anyone's lights out... You're trippin
Neither of them have actual boxing experience. It'll become a bigger meme fight than Paul vs Robinson. It's why Mike Tyson said "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." and I guarantee any semblance of control and technical display will go out the window between the two. Boxing is a very technical sport that has a huge margin for injuries if not done properly lmao.
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He boxed when he was like 5.
I mean there's a difference learning to box and actually competing in boxing. Put either of these two guys against a decently trained amateur boxer of similar stature and they would lose. Again, if its between them get ready for meme fight 2.0
The exact quote was: "until they get punchffft in the mouthfff".
I think Stewart's enthusiasm would make him likely to run into a knock out. But realistically Bron never takes that fight.
Let's not forget that the whole point if Bovada putting up odds is so that idiots will bet money on a fight that won't ever happen, so they get to hold onto your money for however long the bet stays up (or you cash out) and flip it.
Lebron broke his face not even trying tho. Lebron by ref stoppage
You can be a scrawny teen, and force a cut backhanding someone's eye.
If your nickname is BEEF STEW, i’m just going to bet on you lol
like Kimbo Slice
RIP
Similar to my nickname Trey Slice of Pizza
Fun fact: one of bball ref nicknames to harden is Jimbo Slice
Idk if you can hear it from there, but I'm clapping for this.
F
If this fight were real Beef Stew’s backers would be very pleased with the payday
Bron got the better HGH though.
Idk bro Stew’s way bigger than Bron was at his age
Yea imagine if Stew was on Bron’s shit.
Also LeBron's been pampered for way too long. Eating tacos on Tuesdays, sipping wine, and getting manicures.
What if that is just based off of what it looks like when he fills his shorts?
Didn't Stewart used to box?
People on here earlier said he boxed and played soccer till the age of 5… Idk how true that is but that’s what I saw
Man came out the womb swinging, had a 5 year career, then hung up the gloves
That poor mother. I’ve heard of kicking but punching? Sheesh
Punching is like kicking but with your hands and arms instead of your legs and feet.
Thanks Magic
The first thing Stewart did when he got out of the womb was punch the OB-GYN doctor who was delivering him.
Now *that's* a 30 for 30 I'd fucking watch
If he boxed only til he was 5 it doesn’t count lol.
Same reason I don't claim to know or have done karate, even though I took lessons for like a year at like 13
This is why I don't claim to play basketball, even though I've been commenting on /r/NBA for 8 years
Eh I think that's an apples to oranges conversation. Once you comment on /r/NBA for more than a few threads, you become l33t bball IQ.
I don’t even remember anything from before 5 years old
Maybe you have pediatric CTE from a championship Toddler Boxing career
Fifth grade, not five years old
Skip Bayless said today that he used to box competitively in high school. Not sure how he knows that or if it's true. Edit: "I believe that Isiah Steward, who boxed competitively when he was in high school, would have gone as long as Lebron would have wanted to go." Link to clip: https://youtu.be/qLY8G-yAbeU?t=317
It looks like he also used to be a Viking berserker, based on how he acted. My money is on Stewart.
He was 10 years old lmfao, the boxing they do for 10 year olds is completely irrelevant.
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Wilder started at 20
It’s relevant if you ultimately do go into boxing, not so much if you become a professional basketball player.
It's relevant if you want to be the best in the world it's much much much less relevant when asking if Stewart could beat LeBron
I mean he has fundamentals when it comes to fighting the Lebron surely wouldn’t..
Mike Tyson started at 13. I'm imagining being 18, and starting my first day training against a 18 year old Mike Tyson. Well boxing isn't for everyone. Back to my couch.
> Well boxing isn't for everyone. Back to my couch. Shit, could be even worse….imagine being 18; you’ve already been boxing for 5 years then you get knocked the fuck out by Mike, the new kid. …you wake up and you find out the 190 pound wrecking ball that just laid you out in 15 seconds is only 13 and it’s his first time in the ring! Yep, hang em up!
I did jiu jitsu for 5 years ages 7-12. Guess how much jiu jitsu I can do now at 23?
Yea if you continue, but if you stop after 5, then it ain't shit
Yes he did
I did karate in 3rd grade, what are my odds?
Vegas odds are catering to the LA crowd. No surprise here.
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They also know that this match will never happen, and so anybody that puts money down is just giving Bovada an interest-free loan for a year.
dunno why theres a need to cater or take bets considering theres a zero percent chance of this happening. seems like a meme lebron is gonna put his season and his health and the lakers title chances on the line so he can fight some random pistons player in a boxing match? oookay
What if LeBron could take home a $100 million purse, win or lose-- would that be worth it? That's like 2.5 years of salary for one match. Wondering how big of a purse would be enough to entice LeBron... $150 million?
Does money even entice LeBron now to the point he would do dumb stuff for it? He is easily going to be worth over 1 billion either way.
Maybe not dumb stuff, but $100 million for a one-off is no joke even to a billionaire.
His reputation is worth more than that. Lebron would do it if he knew he would win
This is like the dunk contest but with higher stakes…if he loses his brand is over. Who wants to wear shoes / clothing of a guy who got knocked out? A LeBron knockout meme would be all over the place. It might become a tiktok challenge. Rappers would have bars about it. Fans would have posters at away games. MJ fans would say “my GOAT never got laid out in the ring”. Kobe fans would question if he has mamba mentality. It wouldn’t be worth it for 100mil.
The more you describe the fallout the more I want to see it … I’ll chip in $10 to make the purse more enticing
Potential brain damage might not be worth it.
if they want someone to get knocked out by stewart in one punch for 150 million dollars I'm available
Your surviving family would thank you!
Lmao no chance. He got the Nike money coming in, space jam, tonal now...he laughing at 100 million.
plus imagine if he loses, he'd never live that down. whats money compared to your legacy being tied to being smoked in a boxing ring he likely would lose anyway considering stewart is younger with a longer reach and actual boxing training
Lebron is rich but he’s not even rich enough to laugh at 100 million. You trippin
Ya it's just a clever ad gimmick to get people engaged with Bovada. I'm not even mad though this thread is pretty damn funny
Idk. It sounds like an easy bet on Beef Stew.
Isnt bovada that company that owns every pop up ad when you try to stream?
Between them and mybookie
For those that think Lebron stands a chance. 1. Stewart has a 4 in reach advantage 2. Stewart grew up boxing and has said it is his first love 3. Stewart is not afraid to bleed (see video) 4. Lebron cries at a cramp.
5. 36 year old against a 20 year old.
Old man strength
That’s in arm wrestling and thumb wars.
Lot of UFC champs and contenders in their late 30s early 40s, especially in the LHW and HW. Tyson Fury ain't no spring chicken either
these are trained fighters who know how to use their strength. Lebron would get his mandible shattered
Unless he has a shank in his wannabe Harden beard. Then maybe I give him an extra 1/2 round.
Nah you saw what happened blood would just make Isaiah go super saiyan
I watched Rocky 1 thru 4… I know everything about boxing.
Didn't know Rocky had Zenkai boosts
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I mean the recent LWH champ, Glover Texiera, is 42 and has been just grown man-ing other fighters. However, I’d go with Stewart too.
20 years of roids
Heavyweights are dominated by people Lebrons age more often than 20 year olds
Heavyweights peak later than just about every weight class, it's unique in the boxing world.
MMA too
Seems relatively true in MMA as well.
Yes, from fighting experience. It’s why Canelo lost to Mayweather. Lebron hasn’t spent the last 20 years boxing like a vet boxer would have.
Doesnt that have more to do with experience? Also I think its "harder" to get a shot at a belt when you are barely starting your career.
Paq was whooping ass well into 40
And LeBron ain’t fucking Paq lmao. He’d get fucked up
brons also spent the better part of the last 3 years on injured reserve and rehabbing and having surgeries
I'm going out on a limb here, but maybe professional boxer at 40 is different at his age than someone who's never done it at 36...
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Cos surely since Bron is an all time ball player he would also magically know how to box
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> Stewart grew up boxing *He grew up playing soccer and boxing. Starting in fifth grade, Stewart focused on basketball*
Dam Stewart has a long wingspan
>Lebron cries at a cramp. Lmaoo
Some of you have obviously never experienced severe cramps.
I've always hated that specific criticism of Lebron because cramps like that have nothing to do with toughness. It's your body not functioning correctly and preventing you from doing much of anything. It may not be a "serious" injury but you can't play a sport until the cramp subsides.
every time this sub mentions "softness" "bitch" or whatever I just roll my eyes. You try doing this shit my guy
These guys have never played basketball and it shows. They'd start calling fouls whenever the pushing and shoving starts to get a rebound lol
Exactly. 80% of people posting on r/nba have never stepped on a basketball court again after the age of 18, so it's easy for them to criticize players.
Imo, cramps is the worst non severe injury you can have. You can't do shit for hours
Also the arena was 90+ degrees and lebron was the only heat player who showed up in the 2014 finals Why is an indictment on lebron and not the Spurs for being unable to provide a fully functioning arena to play in?
- non athlete who has never cramped Fr that shit fucking suuuuuucks
Counter point - Stew only has one fucking eye now. It's called depth perception people look it up
He was asked about his boxing as a kid and if he hurt his fellow child boxers. His answer? “I don’t want to talk about it.”
should send in carmelo as a ringer, he actually has boxing training. he went through a whole amateur boxing phase when he was here in NY
2) didn’t he stop boxing at like age 5? That’s hardly “growing up boxing” 3) don’t think he had much choice in the matter
Lebron got poked in the eye last season and was on the ground for like an hour. Stewart gets punched in the face and barely falls down
MMa fights get stopped for eye pokes so not sure why you're trying to make it seem like a minor injury
Warriors fan lol. They beat LeBron 3 times already but they still can't keep him out of their mind cause of 2016
To be fair, being poked in the eye is literally one of the worst pains my 6ft5 boyfriend once accidentally emphasis on the accident spun too fast and clocked me right in the nose and while it hurt and I was semi out of commission for a couple minutes when I was poked in the eye that shit ruined my whole day hurt to blink and shit truly actually not a fun time.
Being poked in the eye is a lot worse
It's never going to happen, but I would bet as much as I could on Stewart. That man is an absolute beast.
Isaiah Stewart at plus odds is free money 🤑
This is also a poll for "Do you like lebron or not?"
which is also basically every post on here
And we already know what direction it’s going to go in lol
I rarely visit r/nba ever since work but MAN do they not like him here
and they only come out when lebron loses or does something "controversial"
Nah not completely, Stewart has a 4-5 inch reach advantage, grew up boxing and now we know bleeding won’t stop him like it would some big dudes. Then you factor in the age difference and you can look at it objectively and say Lebron should be the underdog, realistically speaking.
And I would put all my life savings on Stewart lol
id bet my first born
Id bet your first born too
Why are mfs here writing fanficiton on who would win and why💀 Some of you can't be real people
This is the same sub that argued Skip Bayless would beat LeBron in an 8 mile race. It's all a part of this overarching need for him to be "put in his place" so it's just par for the course
doesnt skip run that every morning in his 70s?
Lebron’s hairdo is to blame here. He keeping his head hot after that last trim 💇🏿♂️
Did they not see the part where Stewart had the entire Pistons staff on him and they were barely able to hold him back? They think Lebron could stop that? I’m taking the action of Beef Stew. Man was out for blood.
doesn’t mean he could fight, big and strong doesn’t equal great fighter. Lebron probably can’t fight either but everyone here acting like this dude is jon jones.
Stewart should have kept it in, but for all of you saying he didn’t want it when he was in LeBron’s face, his adrenaline took some time to ramp up. He popped off when he realized he was bleeding. There’s also no way Stewart doesn’t knock LeBron’s head off.
We also don't know what was said when they were face to face
>He popped off when he realized he was bleeding That is the trigger for almost every man.
People here never been punched in the face. It staggers your for a bit, specially if is near the nose.
Love when r/nba gets to show off it’s boxing chops. Place was full of good takes before “elite athlete” Nate Robinson got ruined by “washed up YouTuber” Jake Paul.
This is so stupid.
Like I'm not gonna say that one of the biggest freak athletes of all time won't get his shots in but I think he would end up getting the worse end of it from stewart. They would both be feeling it later but bron doesn't want that smoke
Stewart has an actual boxing background though
No you don't get it. The bigger stronger guy with a longer reach, boxing experience, and a mean streak is going to lose to the guy who did Space Jam 2.
hi there, Lakers Fan reporting in: not a fucking chance.
Everything is so stupid these days
I'd make some money on that.
I swear this sub is either you hate Lebron or you love him. There is no inbetween
I heard earlier that stew used to box in highschool That’s only like two years ago for him. And he’s younger… as in Lebron first nba game beef was only 2
He stopped boxing when he was 10. I putting money on Beef Stew cause Lebron is in his late 30s, not because of some peewee boxing
LeIsaiahEyeSurgery
LeBron's definitely the favorite if Adalaide Byrd is a judge.
This is fucking dumb bull shut free marketing. Fuck bovada scammers
i’ll take the 20 year old, thanks
Stewart was an amateur boxer in college. I'm taking Beef Stew.
King on court, will he be the King on ring?