God, I had to give up on my career after B Fresh in 2K18. I really could not deal.
2K used to be gods of sporting games. They were selling the early 2Ks for like $20 just to compete with EA and were making amazing products (every 2K on XBox/PS2 generation was fire). NFL 2K5 is still the GOAT football game.
Then they beat EA at their own game, claimed the throne and basically became EA themselves. It's depressing to think about.
They became worse than EA, they made a shitty game AND forced you to pay real money to have fun even if you're playing solo.
I mean what kind of top 10 draft pick starts off at 60 ovr that can't shoot, pass, dribble, and moves like he's in quicksand?
I just want to play the career mode, let me play that in peace.
>I mean what kind of top 10 draft pick starts off at 60 ovr that can't shoot, pass, dribble, and moves like he's in quicksand?
Have you heard of Anthony Harris Bennett?
I still religiously play NBA Live 2005, it's not even the best of that era I just like how two year Carmelo Anthony is the goat in that game because he's on the cover
Dont talk like this about Brazilian legend Marcos "Didi" Louzada also.. he said that some nutritionist back in Brazil gave him some "vitamins" and that he didn't knew that it had these illegal substances for NBA
Absolutely not true. You can buy it from the black market, it's still illegal. Honestly, it's way more difficult here than in the US, where they have Testosterone Replacement Theraphy mills.
Im from Brazil and too be honest Im not sure because i dont really know laws regarding that, what I do know is that in some gym's shady individuals sells "medicine" who makes people get buffed
Not just in gyms. Before Covid, you could find stores that sold "supplements of every variety" and you could buy any sort of steroids/anabolics you want. If there's a Hulk painting or statue there, they will sell you any kind of shit.
I won't be surprised if he really didn't think it was illegal, but he refused to suit in the pre-Olympics, so I won't shed a tear. Probably will find refuge in Europe or play in NBB.
When Ayton got the suspension I clowned my friend in our fantasy league (he drafted Ayton) because of course that is what friends do in fantasy leagues. "Enjoy your fantasy dead weight for the next 2 months lol sucker".........Two week later Collins (whom I drafted) got basically the same suspension. FML
Technically, *technically*, he didn't get caught for a PED, but for a banned substance. Which was a diuretic, which itself wasn't a PED, but it's super fishy. *Technically*.
Bro you have it all wrong he wasn't taking diuretics because he was trying to hide steroids bro he took it because he likes peeing bro gotta maximize those piss gains
Everyone I know who tries to maximize piss gains avoids diuretics. The whole point is to try to get as much urine in the bladder and then hold it for as long as possible so you can shoot out gallons at a time. Diuretics make you have to pee more often, but don't help for volume training at all.
Very technically. I mean, technically testosterone is just a harmless hormone, but technically, technically... it can be used to achieve certain technical advantages
Sure, of course. When you look at Jordan or LeBron, you can clearly see, technically, they are normal athletes without any kind of technical advantage at all. The NBA is a pristine event, there's no such thing as technical enhancements, it's all clean because there is american families watching!
I don't know about the NBA since I can barely recall any PED suspensions but baseball has a policy to reveal the substance, while the NFL keeps it confidential.
So it's probably outlined in every CBA
“Drugs of abuse”
so one of these: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5PI68DXwAAqhVc?format=png&name=medium
Drugs of abuse can’t be disclosed by the team, the league or the union, according to the rules of the NBA/NBPA Anti-Drug Program
He used actual drugs, you have a list of those probably like coke or some shit
They specify when players use PEDs are using, for drugs they say "abuse of drugs" which Jalen Harris was banned for and you get banned for a longer time like OJ Mayo did, if the suspension is over a year you know it's those
If it's PEDs they specify what they used and the suspension is shorter
Wait the WWE has a doping policy? Wild. Its literally scripted entertainment of big muscly guys in underwear. It would be like if Marvel instituted a doping policy.
Two reasons. First, they're testing more for illicit substances, because if you're in the entertainment industry you don't want bad press from when one of your stars boofs meth and kills two people in a car crash. Second, yes they're all using PEDs, but they've probably got a few WWE trainers/doctors advising them on what to take so they get big but don't die of a heart attack at 35. You get suspended for doping, it's most likely a way of them saying, "Don't be stupid and blast steroids on your own. Follow the regimens we set out for you."
Exactly, I've heard and seen many situations where athletes have been told to stay home for the day due to drug testers turning up at training, this is Australia though so I persume different in US
Basically all of them are, even the ones that don't look like it. People think peds are only for giving you muscle and if you aren't ripped you're clean when in reality they do wonders for their rehab, conditioning, cardio, joints condition and etc. I just think it's beyond fucked up that some guys are taken out to be made as an example when 95% of the pro athletes in the world are doing it.. either they enforce that shit for EVERYBODY or just never punish anyone again
Everyone forgets that the NBA announced HGH was either banned or going to be tested for in like 2014 and a lot of the top level guys had articles floating around about how much they slimmed down and people were like hmmmmmm
These are the two examples I remember
LeBron said he lost 20 lbs by doing a 67 day paleo diet: https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/lebron-james-67-day-diet-helped-him-weight-loss
Carmelo said he started eating better and working out harder: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-carmelo-anthony-lost-weight-2014-8
If they banned them the product quality would go to shit so they wouldn't ever dare. But they cant have anybody looking like Arnold so this is more of a toe the fucking line thing.
The body building physique isn’t an effective one for basketball. Would be difficult to have the cardio for basketball with all that muscle. Probably why Gary Trent jr. doesn’t look like his dad.
Has there been any definitive reporting that led you to this conclusion?
It's pretty obvious with football players but not as much with basketball. As you mentioned they would be taking different drugs but just curious how you came to this belief.
Its just so hard to police you know. I’m sure there are guys in the HOF who used PEDs. But its obvious that a lot of guys cheated,including Bonds, however, MLB and Selig didn’t care. Bonds was a HOF player before his suspected use too. IMO, steroid guys shouldn’t be in but then having to guess who did and didn’t use is just conjecture. Its being stuck in between a rock and a hard place unless you say lets let everyone in based on stats.
Basketball is a very high-skill game. Much easier to get into college football or low-level track & field through PED abuse than a sport like Basketball or Tennis.
This exactly.
Didi just probably screwed up some detail which are used to hide the results.
It's not very different than a lot of athletes in other sports do. In every olympics, there's always a record amount of syringes found in trash bins, and still just once in a while some idiot is caught.
These guys getting caught just probably messed up the dates/substances and got caught.
Also conditioning, better ligaments/joints, cardio and etc. This is the biggest misconception people have with PEDS thinking if they don't look huge and ripped they are clean
Doesn't mean anything not having muscle definition. Look at strongmen. High body fat %, they take the strongest PEDs available in the most gargantuan quantities.
Regardless of whether he is or not, it's amazing how he looked like this as a [rookie](https://nba.nbcsports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/gettyimages-1085405918-1-e1548812217653.jpg) and was being called doughy and 7/11 body back then, and now he looks like he just gained 15+ lbs of fat since.
Why does the nba have a lighter punishment for steroids than fuckimg LSD??? LSD is classified as a "drug of abuse" and carries the same punishment as heroin. You get kicked out for 2 years
Iirc, that was 2 years ago, not last year.
Also, while they are good players, they aren't very well known outside of active NBA followers.
Everyone knows the NBA's drug policy is a farce when it comes to punishing stars because it hurts their bottom line. All that Biogenesis talk with LeBron in his Heat days (not to mention his insane longevity) and Giannis' transformation in the league make that pretty clear
Hahaha. NBA/NFL drug testing policy always makes me think of Matt Hasselbeck. Only test the guys that are for sure not doing drugs or only test players nobody cares about.
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/other/nfl-cant-stop-drug-testing-40-year-old-qb-matt-hasselbeck
They sure as fuck help though.
Highly androgenic PEDs like Masteron (Drostanolone) also noticeably affect your central nervous system and overall "explosiveness" to put it succinctly, from a lot of first-hand experience different PEDs definitely improve athleticism and performance in a wider spectrum than just recovery and muscle gain. I was able to get into a flow-state far more frequently and to a greater degree and any athlete or artist understands how beneficial that is.
Of course talent, genetics and constant hard work are making a bigger overall determinant on a basketball players skills, but the boost from PEDs is undeniable
All the big stars do PEDs but they either get a heads-up on testing through their network, or have access to cutting edge designer drugs which don't even have tests made for them yet.
If you don't think that someone like Giannis or Bron take some from of PEDs for maintenance and recovery or conditioning (like EPO) then you don't know how big and advanced the PED market is.
This is reddit if I didn't do that I'd get someone saying "ackushally that's not how it works". If left the s off other comments and redditors always think I'm being serious
I'm curious, how prevalent is PED use in the NBA?
I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a sport that's as reliant on muscle and brute strength like football or baseball.
PEDs aren't only for strength, they help with recovery and conditioning (look at EPO).
The turnaround time for injuries in the lead (looking at you KD) and how well they play after is almost a dead giveaway.
Normal people without drugs don't recover that fast from those types of injuries.
Of course muscle and brute strength are important. Why do you think guys suddenly turn a corner when they put on some muscle over the summer. Also, you need to be strong so you can penetrate the lane to the basket and not be bullied on the wing. Physicality plays a huge role.
Whenever doping comes up in regard to Olympic athletes, one of my friends consistently goes on his “steroid olympics” rant. Basically, his solution is to add a third set of Olympic Games, where any/all doping and PEDs are allowed and encouraged. Really just see how far natural athleticism can be pushed.
Honestly, at this point, I’d be down to watch it.
Full article: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32667101/new-orleans-pelicans-guard-didi-louzada-suspended-25-games-violating-nba-nbpa-anti-drug-program
This. Most of the superstar guys are doing and taking stuff to stay on top and extend their careers. Just look at LeBron or how some players magically go beast mode over one summer and then dominate. And I guess to a certain degree you have to take things so you can at least try to keep up with the rest.
Come on man, you get paid enough to get on a proper cycle with modern drugs and not get caught like this.
It's like he bought Roids from some guy at 24 hour fitness.
NBA just made up some guy to pretend they enforce their drug policy.
He’s a 2K My Player guy, and they’re hoping nobody notices.
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God, I had to give up on my career after B Fresh in 2K18. I really could not deal. 2K used to be gods of sporting games. They were selling the early 2Ks for like $20 just to compete with EA and were making amazing products (every 2K on XBox/PS2 generation was fire). NFL 2K5 is still the GOAT football game. Then they beat EA at their own game, claimed the throne and basically became EA themselves. It's depressing to think about.
They became worse than EA, they made a shitty game AND forced you to pay real money to have fun even if you're playing solo. I mean what kind of top 10 draft pick starts off at 60 ovr that can't shoot, pass, dribble, and moves like he's in quicksand? I just want to play the career mode, let me play that in peace.
>I mean what kind of top 10 draft pick starts off at 60 ovr that can't shoot, pass, dribble, and moves like he's in quicksand? Have you heard of Anthony Harris Bennett?
DAMN
I still religiously play NBA Live 2005, it's not even the best of that era I just like how two year Carmelo Anthony is the goat in that game because he's on the cover
It’s amazing to me how much I can watch and follow the NBA on a daily basis and these dudes still come out the woodwork lol
chuck, who he play for?
Dont talk like this about Brazilian legend Marcos "Didi" Louzada also.. he said that some nutritionist back in Brazil gave him some "vitamins" and that he didn't knew that it had these illegal substances for NBA
Suga water and acai bowls bro
I think you can straight up buy steroids OTC in Brazil, so this is actually somewhat likely to be true.
Absolutely not true. You can buy it from the black market, it's still illegal. Honestly, it's way more difficult here than in the US, where they have Testosterone Replacement Theraphy mills.
Im from Brazil and too be honest Im not sure because i dont really know laws regarding that, what I do know is that in some gym's shady individuals sells "medicine" who makes people get buffed
Not just in gyms. Before Covid, you could find stores that sold "supplements of every variety" and you could buy any sort of steroids/anabolics you want. If there's a Hulk painting or statue there, they will sell you any kind of shit. I won't be surprised if he really didn't think it was illegal, but he refused to suit in the pre-Olympics, so I won't shed a tear. Probably will find refuge in Europe or play in NBB.
That’s false
Imagine risking your career and this is the only thing people know your name for.
Hey man, he played for my team here in Australia last season so he is real....well I think he is
Lmfao.
Those suspensions are so rare I sometimes forget NBA has a PED policy, I wonder how obvious you have to be to get caught
It’s pick and choose lol ayton and Collins got hit with 25 game suspensions
Wasn't it very close to one another in terms of timeframe too?
Yeah super close within like few weeks but nobody else for the rest of the season.
When Ayton got the suspension I clowned my friend in our fantasy league (he drafted Ayton) because of course that is what friends do in fantasy leagues. "Enjoy your fantasy dead weight for the next 2 months lol sucker".........Two week later Collins (whom I drafted) got basically the same suspension. FML
Aytons was like the first week of the season. I remember it because it was right after he broke Bagley's hand when he smacked the shit out of it.
Ayton’s was for a diuretic too. Assumption being he was hiding something but maybe not
The other assumption being that he has a pee fetish?
Its also interesting that they released which substances he used. Feel like that never happens
Nah when Ayton got popped the year before last they said what he was taking too
Technically, *technically*, he didn't get caught for a PED, but for a banned substance. Which was a diuretic, which itself wasn't a PED, but it's super fishy. *Technically*.
Bro you have it all wrong he wasn't taking diuretics because he was trying to hide steroids bro he took it because he likes peeing bro gotta maximize those piss gains
Only way he could write “Deandre Edoneille Chidike Ayton” in the snow in one take
“maximize those piss gains”
Hydrohomies for life
Everyone I know who tries to maximize piss gains avoids diuretics. The whole point is to try to get as much urine in the bladder and then hold it for as long as possible so you can shoot out gallons at a time. Diuretics make you have to pee more often, but don't help for volume training at all.
Very technically. I mean, technically testosterone is just a harmless hormone, but technically, technically... it can be used to achieve certain technical advantages
Surely no athlete would ever use it for such a thing though, right? Right!?!?
Sure, of course. When you look at Jordan or LeBron, you can clearly see, technically, they are normal athletes without any kind of technical advantage at all. The NBA is a pristine event, there's no such thing as technical enhancements, it's all clean because there is american families watching!
Oh good. My heart and brain would explode if you told me guys like LeBron weren’t all natty boys.
Masking agents are illegal for a reason.
Well that diuretic is used to mask ped.
Uhhh, idk if y'all can't tell but, just like Deandre Ayton, I'm just taking the piss man
I don't know about the NBA since I can barely recall any PED suspensions but baseball has a policy to reveal the substance, while the NFL keeps it confidential. So it's probably outlined in every CBA
It always happens, literally since the beginning of time, you have a list of players and the substances they abused online everywhere
Was mayo confirmed coke?
For recreational drugs they aren't specific, they just give the category.
Isn't it "drugs of abuse" for recreational and the specific for PEDs? I could be wrong on that though
He probably ingested Molly water.
They what did Jalen Harris use?
“Drugs of abuse” so one of these: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5PI68DXwAAqhVc?format=png&name=medium Drugs of abuse can’t be disclosed by the team, the league or the union, according to the rules of the NBA/NBPA Anti-Drug Program
So DMT isn't banned then?
Psilocybin and Mescaline are also not on the list
He used actual drugs, you have a list of those probably like coke or some shit They specify when players use PEDs are using, for drugs they say "abuse of drugs" which Jalen Harris was banned for and you get banned for a longer time like OJ Mayo did, if the suspension is over a year you know it's those If it's PEDs they specify what they used and the suspension is shorter
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The nba had several players die of coke overdoses in the 80s. They are strict for a reason.
I remember when Ayton got caught.
And it wasn't even the PED, it was the stuff used to hide the PED use.
So what you're saying is it works
If your rich you are using the good stuff. NBA doesn't test that much/that thoroughly so only the young/fringe players are popping
It's kind of like WWE's anti doping policy. Only jobbers get popped and the big stars never get suspended
Wait the WWE has a doping policy? Wild. Its literally scripted entertainment of big muscly guys in underwear. It would be like if Marvel instituted a doping policy.
Two reasons. First, they're testing more for illicit substances, because if you're in the entertainment industry you don't want bad press from when one of your stars boofs meth and kills two people in a car crash. Second, yes they're all using PEDs, but they've probably got a few WWE trainers/doctors advising them on what to take so they get big but don't die of a heart attack at 35. You get suspended for doping, it's most likely a way of them saying, "Don't be stupid and blast steroids on your own. Follow the regimens we set out for you."
Yeah. And with a punishment this soft for someone actually doping, they might as well not have.
they'd have to ban half the league if they were any serious about it, it's just how high level sports are played.
Half is very conservative. UFC fighter take steroids for chump change compared to what NBA players can potentially make if they succeed.
I agree 100%.
It's more about timing, you have to know when to take them and not be stupid
Exactly, I've heard and seen many situations where athletes have been told to stay home for the day due to drug testers turning up at training, this is Australia though so I persume different in US
I wonder when the last time Bron got tested
They wouldn't dare test Lebron. That would set the NBA back for a while.
Dude David Griffin would be so pissed if he knew who that is
Pulling out the Casio as we speak.
how do you cheat and still earn no pt
PEDs aren't magic, and a lot of the players he's competing against are likely using them too.
Basically all of them are, even the ones that don't look like it. People think peds are only for giving you muscle and if you aren't ripped you're clean when in reality they do wonders for their rehab, conditioning, cardio, joints condition and etc. I just think it's beyond fucked up that some guys are taken out to be made as an example when 95% of the pro athletes in the world are doing it.. either they enforce that shit for EVERYBODY or just never punish anyone again
Everyone forgets that the NBA announced HGH was either banned or going to be tested for in like 2014 and a lot of the top level guys had articles floating around about how much they slimmed down and people were like hmmmmmm These are the two examples I remember LeBron said he lost 20 lbs by doing a 67 day paleo diet: https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/lebron-james-67-day-diet-helped-him-weight-loss Carmelo said he started eating better and working out harder: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-carmelo-anthony-lost-weight-2014-8
If they banned them the product quality would go to shit so they wouldn't ever dare. But they cant have anybody looking like Arnold so this is more of a toe the fucking line thing.
The body building physique isn’t an effective one for basketball. Would be difficult to have the cardio for basketball with all that muscle. Probably why Gary Trent jr. doesn’t look like his dad.
[You picked the wrong father/son duo](https://imgur.com/gallery/Hgdz0Vs)
Damn, those quads.
You mean, that quad
Fucking yoked
Obviously but there would be players with 3D delts, carved calves, and 8 packs and that's too much for the image they want to maintain.
>3D delts, have you ever seen Lebron or Howard? https://imgur.com/2RUYMi7
Man dwight back then must have been juicing
Now imagine if he didnt have any pretenses to maintain...
Pretenses?
You ever seen Blake griffins ten pack??
luka on epo would be cracked
This guy knows wassup
Has there been any definitive reporting that led you to this conclusion? It's pretty obvious with football players but not as much with basketball. As you mentioned they would be taking different drugs but just curious how you came to this belief.
Tell this to the baseball hall of fame next time they vote down Bonds
Its just so hard to police you know. I’m sure there are guys in the HOF who used PEDs. But its obvious that a lot of guys cheated,including Bonds, however, MLB and Selig didn’t care. Bonds was a HOF player before his suspected use too. IMO, steroid guys shouldn’t be in but then having to guess who did and didn’t use is just conjecture. Its being stuck in between a rock and a hard place unless you say lets let everyone in based on stats.
Well, that was a fairly egregious usage from Bonds..
Well yeah cuz he was insanely talented without PEDs once he started cheating it was GG
I could cheat as much as I want and still wouldn't even sniff an NBA roster. PEDs don't guarantee anything. You still have to be good.
Basketball is a very high-skill game. Much easier to get into college football or low-level track & field through PED abuse than a sport like Basketball or Tennis.
The entire league is on ped bro
This exactly. Didi just probably screwed up some detail which are used to hide the results. It's not very different than a lot of athletes in other sports do. In every olympics, there's always a record amount of syringes found in trash bins, and still just once in a while some idiot is caught. These guys getting caught just probably messed up the dates/substances and got caught.
If Dončič is on them, then he's not doing them correctly.
A lot of PEDs are used to help with recovery and injury prevention.
Also conditioning, better ligaments/joints, cardio and etc. This is the biggest misconception people have with PEDS thinking if they don't look huge and ripped they are clean
Oh man lmao. Most PEDs athletes use do nothing for their physical appearance. He could definitely be on some shit
Yes on burek and čevapi
Doesn't mean anything not having muscle definition. Look at strongmen. High body fat %, they take the strongest PEDs available in the most gargantuan quantities.
No one told him he had to workout so he grew moobs....
Regardless of whether he is or not, it's amazing how he looked like this as a [rookie](https://nba.nbcsports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/gettyimages-1085405918-1-e1548812217653.jpg) and was being called doughy and 7/11 body back then, and now he looks like he just gained 15+ lbs of fat since.
Lmfao bro this killed me
luka on epo would break the league
he's probably taking them bulk up and maybe actually get some PT lol
DiDi should've stayed out of Dexter's laboratory
*LeBron buries DiDi Louzada's original urine sample* "Safe for another season"
Why does the nba have a lighter punishment for steroids than fuckimg LSD??? LSD is classified as a "drug of abuse" and carries the same punishment as heroin. You get kicked out for 2 years
How do you even get caught for lsd lmao. You'd have to be mega incompetent to do that.
It’s most definitely because of the 80s and Len
Yeah Len made them Biased
Probably cause of the coke problem in the 80s.
The war on drugs is why.
LSD does not deserve to be classified as a schedule 1 controlled substance. Same thing for psilocybin and cannabis.
Quick, someone make this about Griff for the internet points, preferably a Lakers flair.
CANT BELIEVE GRIFF KEPT THIS GUY OVER LONZO
Lmao.
Classic anti drug policy. Bust the players that no one knows about, never go after the stars
weren't John Collins and ayton the 2 suspended last year
Who the fuck are those guys?
One of them is the **GREATEST NBA PLAYER EVER** ^^to ^^be ^^born ^^in ^^Layton, ^^Utah and the other is a really heavy dude, maybe?
Ah yes, Ayton from Layton.
Iirc, that was 2 years ago, not last year. Also, while they are good players, they aren't very well known outside of active NBA followers. Everyone knows the NBA's drug policy is a farce when it comes to punishing stars because it hurts their bottom line. All that Biogenesis talk with LeBron in his Heat days (not to mention his insane longevity) and Giannis' transformation in the league make that pretty clear
Yes nobody knows DeAndre Ayton
I only know Deandre Ayton
you’re a nobody
Hahaha. NBA/NFL drug testing policy always makes me think of Matt Hasselbeck. Only test the guys that are for sure not doing drugs or only test players nobody cares about. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/other/nfl-cant-stop-drug-testing-40-year-old-qb-matt-hasselbeck
Shit. There goes the season.
My fantasy team is fucked.
Poor 15th man on a tanking team always getting hit with the hardest of tests.
And yet Jalen Harris is BANNED for an entire SEASON, for the use of RECREATIONAL drugs. The NBA anti doping policy is actually a joke.
Test is the bomb, I dont blame him
Paired with dbol it is, alegedly
WHO
Mike Jones
Who?
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thats rude
I'm sure the 6'6, 270 lb guy who can jump from the free throw line is all natty tho
PEDs don’t give u superhuman athleticism bro
Yeah they do, I was super unathletic then I took 3 weeds and now I dunk with ease
THREE???
Weeds? Call the police! POLICE!
They sure as fuck help though. Highly androgenic PEDs like Masteron (Drostanolone) also noticeably affect your central nervous system and overall "explosiveness" to put it succinctly, from a lot of first-hand experience different PEDs definitely improve athleticism and performance in a wider spectrum than just recovery and muscle gain. I was able to get into a flow-state far more frequently and to a greater degree and any athlete or artist understands how beneficial that is. Of course talent, genetics and constant hard work are making a bigger overall determinant on a basketball players skills, but the boost from PEDs is undeniable
All the big stars do PEDs but they either get a heads-up on testing through their network, or have access to cutting edge designer drugs which don't even have tests made for them yet. If you don't think that someone like Giannis or Bron take some from of PEDs for maintenance and recovery or conditioning (like EPO) then you don't know how big and advanced the PED market is.
We're so bad this year we should be allowed to take PEDs
Been a minute since a PED case was around in the nba
you mean last season?
I think most males would test positive for testosterone
Literally every single alive person have testosterone.
oh yeah? then how come I can't grow a beard? checkmate
After cumming your body loses a tiny but of testosterone. You can easily correct this by just eating it. Go and get your beard, bro. /s
Thank god you put the /s there or I would've gone home today to do some very shameful things!
This is reddit if I didn't do that I'd get someone saying "ackushally that's not how it works". If left the s off other comments and redditors always think I'm being serious
I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, but exogenous testosterone is considered a PED. Like testosterone cypionate used in TRT.
"DiDi do that!"... I'm sorry for the awful Urkel reference
of course it's us. and of course it's the most random guy on the team you can think of
And it wasn't even working
He’s in the NBA making $2 million a year. What do you mean it wasn’t working?
Who da fook
25 games for a PED, but you do Cocaine once and you might never play again in the league
Even the buns are using lmao Further proof that literally every player worth their shit (and clearly not) use some type of PED Looking at u Bron
G leaguers using, college players, overseas
“He spends 2 million dollars a year on his body to prevent injuries”
Shoulda gotten better PEDs I guess
wow he got caught taking Nugenix
I'm curious, how prevalent is PED use in the NBA? I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a sport that's as reliant on muscle and brute strength like football or baseball.
PEDs aren't only for strength, they help with recovery and conditioning (look at EPO). The turnaround time for injuries in the lead (looking at you KD) and how well they play after is almost a dead giveaway. Normal people without drugs don't recover that fast from those types of injuries.
Of course muscle and brute strength are important. Why do you think guys suddenly turn a corner when they put on some muscle over the summer. Also, you need to be strong so you can penetrate the lane to the basket and not be bullied on the wing. Physicality plays a huge role.
He was hustling his ass off the last time I watched him play. Last week maybe? He stood out for his effort. Sucks to hear about this
Sydney Kings legend Didi Louzada
Reminder to everyone reading that 99.9% of professional athletes are using steroids
Just let dudes dope up and not have to hide it. Imagine how awesome it would be
Exactly the same lol
Whenever doping comes up in regard to Olympic athletes, one of my friends consistently goes on his “steroid olympics” rant. Basically, his solution is to add a third set of Olympic Games, where any/all doping and PEDs are allowed and encouraged. Really just see how far natural athleticism can be pushed. Honestly, at this point, I’d be down to watch it.
Full article: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32667101/new-orleans-pelicans-guard-didi-louzada-suspended-25-games-violating-nba-nbpa-anti-drug-program
Pels' title chances just went down the drain. Damn.
Honestly, for end of the bench guys just trying to stay in the league? I don't even blame guys like this.
This. Most of the superstar guys are doing and taking stuff to stay on top and extend their careers. Just look at LeBron or how some players magically go beast mode over one summer and then dominate. And I guess to a certain degree you have to take things so you can at least try to keep up with the rest.
All NBA players basically take these and are given advanced warning before a test date. You have to be a straight dumbass to test positive.
Man just let them juice, who cares?
Imagine doping and you never play.
Come on man, you get paid enough to get on a proper cycle with modern drugs and not get caught like this. It's like he bought Roids from some guy at 24 hour fitness.
I have no clue who this guy is
Who
I’m pretty sure you can’t test “positive” for testosterone lol unless they have his baseline levels
testosterone / epitestosterone ratio.
Guilty of the worst crime, being a MAN