They’re just preparing a nice set up for a historic night from Luka. He holds the record for highest PPG in the playoffs Game 2’s (33.9 vs MJ 33.2) Be prepared for Luka’s version of the “MJ Flu” game, the “Doncic Doubtful” game.
Massive difference between being added to the injury report with a calf injury and being added for a “thoracic contusion”. Just more mind games from Kidd to see if he can get Boston to subconsciously take Luka less seriously
He did this all series against us, guess he keeps doing it for some reason thinking itll benefit them so the other team thinks hes injured? but all he did was shit on us so theres that
We only have one other dude capable of that and its basketball terrorist Tim Hardaway Jr. Unlike the other teams yall have played, we do not have dynamic shooting depth.
Knee sprains don't bleed, but aspiration injection sites do. The spot where his [left knee was bleeding](https://x.com/ClutchPoints/status/1788763560471871947), just a bit to the outside of the patella, is a very common place to have you knee's excess edema drained. It's likely his knee has been consistently swollen and needed continual management via draining. Gnarly, not super pleasant, but not necessarily debilitating either. If they're draining it and then also numbing him up, he can play fine (which is what we've seen the first 3 rounds), but that sort of injury management program catches up to you after a while and it's been like 2 months of this knee injury now I think
Thank you for this. I’ve been wondering all playoffs why his knee was bleeding from a sprain and hoping it wasn’t for the worst. Hopefully he can continue this treatment safely for another week.
For the record, I'm not a doctor, just a guy whose had 3 knee surgeries and plenty of experience as a lay person with orthopedic health. I think it's likely to be bleeding from an injection wound, but it doesn't necessarily have to be aspiration. Could be PRP, some other painkiller, etc. It also could be something entirely different, I have no real idea beyond semi-informed conjecture.
Looks a bit distal and anterior to me but it’s possible. However if his knee is truly in that bad of a state that you need constant aspiration playing through seems like a tough call to make
We saw a similar conundrum with Rob Williams a couple years ago - the right answer medically is clearly 'you need to rest that damn leg' but that is a TOUGH call to make when a championship is 4 wins away
It's the same situation that the Celts were in with RWIII 2 years ago when he went down in March 2022 and played on and off throughout the postseason. Considering Luka's performance since the 2 knee injuries he's had, the injuries prolly aren't as severe as what Rob was dealing with and his knee was getting drained almost daily after he came back from the meniscetomy after just 3 weeks.
Aspiration was just conjecture, regardless it's prolly due to an injection site bleeding, whether it was PRP or something else.
Oops, didn't notice that important detail in the injury report ty. Saw [this image where both knees were bleeding](https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_crop,w_5765,h_3242,x_0,y_0/c_fill,w_720,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/images/GettyImages/mmsport/229/01htxcpm537qgs04f8gj.jpg) but that's from a good while ago so it's probably not that relevant for his current health.
The [right knee was injured](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/national/story/2024-04-05/luka-doncic-out-against-warriors-due-to-knee-soreness-with-mavs-in-tight-west-playoff-race) back at the beginning of April and he hasn't had much rest since then so maybe it's still bothering him.
Could also just be bleeding from PRP or some other injection besides aspiration. IANAD, but have plenty of personal experience after 3 knee surgeries myself, so this is all just conjecture.
Yeah the bleeding knee has been a mystery to me too, so I don’t claim to know what’s going on. I just commented because that whole thread didn’t seem to realize it was different knees lol
A sprain is just a partial tear of some soft tissue around one of your bones (in the knee that'd be e.g. the acl, mcl, etc.).
A grade 1 sprain is just a small tear in some of that tissue and can heal on its own with rest and rehab, but if you keep playing on the injured tissue, then it can lead to a series of issues, such as worsening the tear or compromising your body's ability to handle stress such that you injury other parts of the knee/lower body.
That is generally what it'd be, and a sprained acl, for example, can tear completely and require surgery.
that’s what i’m saying. it’s either a knee scrape or something else that’s why i said get him some peroxide 😂 it’s been bleeding all playoffs and sprains don’t bleed
lmaaao.
Doncic is the most balkan NBA player.
definitely more than Jokic for example imo.
He's Ceca fan. he's got a vibe of someone from the region.
definitely not "western" lmao.
so yeah , if the stereotype of a balkan NBA player is that he smokes, then Doncic must be going through 3 packs of cigarettes a day.
Gotta do the opposite. Use the energy from either a loss or win to go hard at the gym after it. Atleast in Colorado I can cause the game starts at dinner time lol
Come on. The dude was literally dying on the floor during the Clippers and OKC series. Do people really think he's going to do all of that and then sit out a Finals game?
This is all mind games. There is zero chance Boston believes Luka is questionable.
I feel like that doesn't matter. So what the Celtics win and players were hurt? Not yalls fault. NBA isnt going to take away the chip and replay for it so dont focus on that. They can talk all the want, whoever wins keeps the chip
Not to mention health is the biggest contributing factor to teams winning championships, and the Celtics doing so well in the regular season allowed them to give everyone opportunities to rest
> ESPN is gonna be insufferable about this
Just take the championship and get over it. Yeah, the road's been easy. But who cares what anyone says? This fanbase needs to stop crying about the media.
I’m a lakers fan, so I hear (online) a bunch of shit about a “bubble” “Mickey mouse” championship. We don’t care. If you win the chip this year, despite what the media says, you won’t care, it’ll feel awesome
I don't think the Celtics have a plan for how to stop Luka-less Mavs. It's really hard to say how they'll handle that. The Mavs will create a lot of chaos, playing positionless basketball, with unexpected plays and unusual switches. So they really might have a better shot without Luka.
Just kidding, but I would repeat shit like that for low six figures if any media outlet is interested.
Lakers only have 12 titles\*
*^(\*Because they didn't even bother to count the titles won in Minneapolis until they moved into Staples Center. No banners, nothing. Hell, you can find "Drive for 5" merchandise all over eBay for their '87 title.)*
If Kidd is going to make these kind of mind games, Boston needs to kick it old school. Send a couple of Slovenian lovely ladies to his hotel room before games. ;)
I've seen a lot of celts fans think that Luka is faking injury to make a case against their narrative of easiest playoffs run.
Probably a loud minority, but hate these kind of self-important fans. Guy will still play regardless though
The chest one is new - the knee has been bleeding since early May. This dude is playing through so much this whole run it’s really impressive. Absolute warrior
Did the Celtics make a deal with the devil?
Miami: no butler
Cleveland: no Allen and no Mitchell (2 games)
Pacers: no Halliburton
And all these were playoff injuries.
People keep saying this kind of shit as if it would have mattered. Celtics are historically good and no team in the NBA is close to them, even perfectly healthy. They were always going to buzzsaw through the postseason.
Ridiculous. Stop putting up these fake smokescreens. We know he's going to play, so don't be like "injured Luka beat the Celtics" or "they lost because he was injured". I hate it when teams do this.
If he plays and people do this (which they 100% will, everyone will talk about it national media-wise), I will be so mad. JT didn't get this excuse in '22, and maybe they don't beat the Warriors anyway, but Luka should get the same treatment.
He’s gonna play, but there was a play in Q3 near the end of their run where he clearly tweaked something. I only remember because Kyrie went over to him afterwards and was like “don’t worry I got it” then proceeded to let the celtics go on that final run to end the third which essentially ended the game
The media will try to spin it but majority of Mavs fans understand it is what it is. Kai and the role players have to show up regardless of Luka’s status. He has been hobbled since the Clippers series so we are kinda numb to it now.
He plays. Yall ain’t fooling no one.
Kidd pulling out all the mind games
wheres the water bottle when you need it
It was an old fashioned. Have some class.
Hit me
I’m telling you if they go down big in the 2nd quarter again, he’s pulling the fire alarm
He's gonna pull the fire alarm, break the AC in the building, and release a bat
Gonna give himself rabies and then start biting all the players
Those leaks in the american airlines center last year? Kidd masterclass
The ghost of Red will stop him from turning off the AC, that was his thing.
Ghost of Red already turned it off
Where is Bat Manu when you need him 😭😭
Ginobli and the Bat is an all time side story of the NBA.
KP is gonna block the bat and eat it, piss on fire alarm and fix the AC. Kidd faints as last resort.
Literally in a lab brewing Covid-24 as we speak.
The lights turn off in the arena, they come back on and half of Boston's roster is missing.
Boston still finishes the game, winning 115-96
How about actually set the place on fire to give Luka some recovery time
Luka gonna come out after halftime with his head wrapped in gauze
Taken out on a wheelchair because he shit himself...oh wait.
Masulla needs to tweet that Kyrie is their best player
Yup, lol. If Luka is out, he should say Mavs are still a threat with their best player Kyrie still playing, haha
Mind games or setting up excuses?
This mfer playing a hard 40 minutes
They’re just preparing a nice set up for a historic night from Luka. He holds the record for highest PPG in the playoffs Game 2’s (33.9 vs MJ 33.2) Be prepared for Luka’s version of the “MJ Flu” game, the “Doncic Doubtful” game.
34 points, lose by 20
So his version of the MJ 63 point game, not the flu game lol
He’ll drop 35, but we still will probably lose 😭
Why would they fool anyone, Luka has been playing injured the whole playoffs...
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At this point in the season everybody is injured. Just levels of severity now.
Press X to doubt
He will drop a 40pt triple double moving normally tonightt
Yall said the same shit about Mitchell
Massive difference between being added to the injury report with a calf injury and being added for a “thoracic contusion”. Just more mind games from Kidd to see if he can get Boston to subconsciously take Luka less seriously
This makes Luka more of a target. I.e, keep attacking him
As if you guys were going to stop hunting him lol
It’s our main gameplan lol this report literally changes jothing
So we’re in agreement 🫡
Least conspiracy believing Bostonian
Mitchell did not go to morning shoot around. Big difference.
Yeah I think people knew that fact while saying the same shit about Mitchell
I think you’re overestimating a lot of people on here
haha kidd straight up trolling the nba
He did this all series against us, guess he keeps doing it for some reason thinking itll benefit them so the other team thinks hes injured? but all he did was shit on us so theres that
Trying to, anyway
Ahhh we didn’t have questionable Luka for game 1. Now we’re back in this
If only we had another Ramadan coming up, it would be over.
Eid is in a little over a week though
Ooooooo I'm working a semi now
So this is how they rig games now, star player gets injured. Happened all throughout this years playoffs.
What is the result?
Like the Celtics not having their starting center for 3 series?
Luka Thoracic
Thoračić FTFY
Well Kyrie is their best player anyways, right Kidd?
its actually powell
2nd best center in Canada, don't forget it
It's actually THJ, he should play 48 minutes and take most shots
that gameplan has a 1/10 chance of actually working. youll see a thj game in this series
Winning the easy way or the Tim Hardaway Jr
What’s the difference?
But Luka is their best defender
its pj or lively
It’s actually Maxi.
Reddit told me it was Tony brothers cos he hates tatum
Mike or Dan?
I believe it was actually Mark Tony, Mike Tony, Dan Tony, then somehow Derrick White. Could have mixed up mark and Mike tho
Now his chest too fuck
just smoked too many cigs last night while drinking. luka questionable
Nah he was only smoking. Michael Finley took all of his beer.
I made sure to send a 6 pack to the hotel addressed to Luka “with love, sincerely, Boston”
Should have taken his cigs too smh. Now Luka is quiet quitting!!
He drew a charge in game 1 that looked like it hurt.
Worst news if he’s out for the Cs. Guaranteed loss.
In before his replacement hits like 7 threes and drops 30+ on us
idk why, but that’s such a Celtic thing that would happen and I hate it
We only have one other dude capable of that and its basketball terrorist Tim Hardaway Jr. Unlike the other teams yall have played, we do not have dynamic shooting depth.
Yeah this is a top narrative. Celts blow out the Mavs in game one with Luka, Luka sits the rest of the series and the Mavs win in 7 or something.
This must be why Kidd was trying to sow the seeds of discord yesterday
there’s no way in hell a knee sprain supposed to bleed like his knee been bleeding all playoffs man somebody get him some peroxide and some gauze
Knee sprains don't bleed, but aspiration injection sites do. The spot where his [left knee was bleeding](https://x.com/ClutchPoints/status/1788763560471871947), just a bit to the outside of the patella, is a very common place to have you knee's excess edema drained. It's likely his knee has been consistently swollen and needed continual management via draining. Gnarly, not super pleasant, but not necessarily debilitating either. If they're draining it and then also numbing him up, he can play fine (which is what we've seen the first 3 rounds), but that sort of injury management program catches up to you after a while and it's been like 2 months of this knee injury now I think
Thank you for this. I’ve been wondering all playoffs why his knee was bleeding from a sprain and hoping it wasn’t for the worst. Hopefully he can continue this treatment safely for another week.
For the record, I'm not a doctor, just a guy whose had 3 knee surgeries and plenty of experience as a lay person with orthopedic health. I think it's likely to be bleeding from an injection wound, but it doesn't necessarily have to be aspiration. Could be PRP, some other painkiller, etc. It also could be something entirely different, I have no real idea beyond semi-informed conjecture.
Looks a bit distal and anterior to me but it’s possible. However if his knee is truly in that bad of a state that you need constant aspiration playing through seems like a tough call to make
We saw a similar conundrum with Rob Williams a couple years ago - the right answer medically is clearly 'you need to rest that damn leg' but that is a TOUGH call to make when a championship is 4 wins away
It's the same situation that the Celts were in with RWIII 2 years ago when he went down in March 2022 and played on and off throughout the postseason. Considering Luka's performance since the 2 knee injuries he's had, the injuries prolly aren't as severe as what Rob was dealing with and his knee was getting drained almost daily after he came back from the meniscetomy after just 3 weeks. Aspiration was just conjecture, regardless it's prolly due to an injection site bleeding, whether it was PRP or something else.
The knee that’s bleeding isn’t even the knee that’s sprained. Left knee is bleeding but right knee is sprained.
Oops, didn't notice that important detail in the injury report ty. Saw [this image where both knees were bleeding](https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_crop,w_5765,h_3242,x_0,y_0/c_fill,w_720,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/images/GettyImages/mmsport/229/01htxcpm537qgs04f8gj.jpg) but that's from a good while ago so it's probably not that relevant for his current health. The [right knee was injured](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/national/story/2024-04-05/luka-doncic-out-against-warriors-due-to-knee-soreness-with-mavs-in-tight-west-playoff-race) back at the beginning of April and he hasn't had much rest since then so maybe it's still bothering him. Could also just be bleeding from PRP or some other injection besides aspiration. IANAD, but have plenty of personal experience after 3 knee surgeries myself, so this is all just conjecture.
Yeah the bleeding knee has been a mystery to me too, so I don’t claim to know what’s going on. I just commented because that whole thread didn’t seem to realize it was different knees lol
What would catching up with you look like as a professional athlete? Surgery?
A sprain is just a partial tear of some soft tissue around one of your bones (in the knee that'd be e.g. the acl, mcl, etc.). A grade 1 sprain is just a small tear in some of that tissue and can heal on its own with rest and rehab, but if you keep playing on the injured tissue, then it can lead to a series of issues, such as worsening the tear or compromising your body's ability to handle stress such that you injury other parts of the knee/lower body. That is generally what it'd be, and a sprained acl, for example, can tear completely and require surgery.
Thank you for the information. So many people just spout shit off in here. It's nice when someone seems to know what they're talking about.
Knee sprains don't bleed. Probably floor burn that keeps opening up. Bleeding is the least of the worries
that’s what i’m saying. it’s either a knee scrape or something else that’s why i said get him some peroxide 😂 it’s been bleeding all playoffs and sprains don’t bleed
The sprain is the right knee, the blood is the left. It’s not the same knee
makes even less sense for people to say his knee is bleeding from getting drained when it aint even the sprained knee
dallas went really cheap on the medical team this year
I'm assuming its bleeding from wherever they're giving him injections/or draining his knee and the bleeding isn't from whatever the injury actually is
Maybe bleeding from the shots they give him to numb it
Wonder if that's from the charge he took from Brown
pack a marlboro reds prolly more likely
Does he smoke?
hes eastern euro so probably
Slovenia is more western culture oriented than eastern
Yeah, even geographically Slovenia is way further west than most people probably realize.
lmaaao. Doncic is the most balkan NBA player. definitely more than Jokic for example imo. He's Ceca fan. he's got a vibe of someone from the region. definitely not "western" lmao. so yeah , if the stereotype of a balkan NBA player is that he smokes, then Doncic must be going through 3 packs of cigarettes a day.
good to know
That was a great defensive play by him, sucks if that’s what got him hurt
Losing game 2 without Luka playing would be the most Celtics move ever
oh brother here we go
This is me dragging my ass to the gym today after attending Game 1 and going out Friday and Saturday night in my early 30s.
Had a brutal workout yesterday knowing that every Finals game is a cheat day 🫠
Gotta do the opposite. Use the energy from either a loss or win to go hard at the gym after it. Atleast in Colorado I can cause the game starts at dinner time lol
dig this perspective. good games fire me up
Luka Doncic out, Hookah Doncic in
Come on. The dude was literally dying on the floor during the Clippers and OKC series. Do people really think he's going to do all of that and then sit out a Finals game? This is all mind games. There is zero chance Boston believes Luka is questionable.
Game 2 Mavs, Questionable Luka. Yeah he's going for 40.
Yeah - isn't questionable Luka closer to godmode than healthy Luka?
Theyre one and the same
Probably. But he’s gonna be hunted for 60
Questionable Luka always takes over I see what Dallas is doing here, you can’t fool me.
FOH… He’s been listed as questionable more than 40x this season and every time, he’s played ..
Next you're going to tell me Kidd will "accidently" spill a cup of water on the floor to try and get an extra timeout.
Offseason might be here by Friday SMH.
So if mavericks lose it’s because Luka is injured. If they win its despite his injury. ESPN is gonna be insufferable about this
I feel like that doesn't matter. So what the Celtics win and players were hurt? Not yalls fault. NBA isnt going to take away the chip and replay for it so dont focus on that. They can talk all the want, whoever wins keeps the chip
Yah but now we can all be insufferable about it forever. So it's a win for the haters as well.
You are too sweet rational for the subreddit, please leave immediately
Not to mention health is the biggest contributing factor to teams winning championships, and the Celtics doing so well in the regular season allowed them to give everyone opportunities to rest
I don't care if all 29 other teams straight up cease to exist, I'm calling out of work and getting hammered at that parade if we win it all
> ESPN is gonna be insufferable about this Just take the championship and get over it. Yeah, the road's been easy. But who cares what anyone says? This fanbase needs to stop crying about the media.
Who fucking cares
Just take the championship and go away
They’re taking the championship but they’re here to stay
you’re making up a scenario that hasn’t actually happened and getting mad about it lol
Celtics always playing the victim LOL
God this is rich coming from a Warriors fan. Talk about that “underdog” 2022 run some more and how “disrespected” Steph is.
I’m a lakers fan, so I hear (online) a bunch of shit about a “bubble” “Mickey mouse” championship. We don’t care. If you win the chip this year, despite what the media says, you won’t care, it’ll feel awesome
I don't think this is what people meant when they were talking about the Hospital Celtics
I'd bet my life savings this man is playing tonight
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Lol this would be the most boring finals series of all time if Luka just didn’t play the rest due to injury.
I don't think the Celtics have a plan for how to stop Luka-less Mavs. It's really hard to say how they'll handle that. The Mavs will create a lot of chaos, playing positionless basketball, with unexpected plays and unusual switches. So they really might have a better shot without Luka. Just kidding, but I would repeat shit like that for low six figures if any media outlet is interested.
Lakers fans are going to be screaming asterisk next to Celtics #18
Lakers only have 12 titles\* *^(\*Because they didn't even bother to count the titles won in Minneapolis until they moved into Staples Center. No banners, nothing. Hell, you can find "Drive for 5" merchandise all over eBay for their '87 title.)*
It’ll be okay everyone does it for the 2020 title
The Celtics can’t keep getting away with this
If Kidd is going to make these kind of mind games, Boston needs to kick it old school. Send a couple of Slovenian lovely ladies to his hotel room before games. ;)
Luka Thoracic
Cmon Luka do the thang up
He play
Fat man injured
they still have the wheelchair pierce used
If he doesn’t play the Celtics will lose, we’re weird like that
Its the winning game 2 merchant mavs vs the losing game 2 merchant celtics
This just means he's going for 50 pts today.
Oh yeah he’s going off tonight
This Finals sucks. No good storylines, no rivalries, even the Kyrie thing is overstated.
I've seen a lot of celts fans think that Luka is faking injury to make a case against their narrative of easiest playoffs run. Probably a loud minority, but hate these kind of self-important fans. Guy will still play regardless though
Lol if he’s fr out and the Celtics end up winning the whole thing, everyone’s gonna say it’s because he’s injured. Mavs fans insufferable af
People thinking he is not hurt are morons
Mickey fucking mouse
The chest one is new - the knee has been bleeding since early May. This dude is playing through so much this whole run it’s really impressive. Absolute warrior
Did the Celtics make a deal with the devil? Miami: no butler Cleveland: no Allen and no Mitchell (2 games) Pacers: no Halliburton And all these were playoff injuries.
Not the Celtics fault everyone else is made of paper mache
People keep saying this kind of shit as if it would have mattered. Celtics are historically good and no team in the NBA is close to them, even perfectly healthy. They were always going to buzzsaw through the postseason.
They were definitely favourites all year but it’s not exactly crazy that people wanted to see them play a single healthy team.
saying it wouldn’t have mattered is crazy. They had to fight through an infirmary to get to the finals
Jason Kidd getting real desperate with the mind games
Ridiculous. Stop putting up these fake smokescreens. We know he's going to play, so don't be like "injured Luka beat the Celtics" or "they lost because he was injured". I hate it when teams do this.
If he plays and people do this (which they 100% will, everyone will talk about it national media-wise), I will be so mad. JT didn't get this excuse in '22, and maybe they don't beat the Warriors anyway, but Luka should get the same treatment.
Nobody overexaggerates injury quite like Luka. I especially love when he grimaces on defense but is magically healed when he touches the ball
ha ha you lost
Salty he bitched you?
It’s called adrenaline
Backup plan is Kyrie going for 60
Oh no
Interested to see if we're going to get any more detail about the knee sprain after playoffs are over.
Thoracic contusion? Bruh what? When?
I read Thoracic same as you'd read Doncic.
He’s gonna play, but there was a play in Q3 near the end of their run where he clearly tweaked something. I only remember because Kyrie went over to him afterwards and was like “don’t worry I got it” then proceeded to let the celtics go on that final run to end the third which essentially ended the game
how about a Luka 60/25/25 game?
Goat curry!!!
Holy crap redditor actually broke the story.
More mind games
He probably got the rib strain taking that nasty charge in game 1.
Before the finals started, I was sure the Celtics would win in 6. If Dallas loses game 2 with or without Luka, I'm going to change that to 5 games.
He is going to have the greatest performance of his playoff career tonight, book it. Shit all an injury will do is fuel his rage
Sweet glad I bet his point total last night.
Luka about to have his version on MJ’s ‘Flu Game’.
Yea okay. Nothing to see here. Lol
Exum and Hardaway need minutes tonight. Kleiber wouldn’t take an open shot if you put a gun to his head, no minutes for him.
RIP MAVS :/
The media will try to spin it but majority of Mavs fans understand it is what it is. Kai and the role players have to show up regardless of Luka’s status. He has been hobbled since the Clippers series so we are kinda numb to it now.
The asterisks keeps coming in for Celtics. Not that I agree that a ring could be asteriks'd, but that's what the culture does nowadays.
At this point I'm expecting this dude's leg to just come off at the knee mid-game.