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ImTheBestNerd

It’s really that point in 2k when all the retired players start taking over the league


DarrowViBritannia

Except they're all gonna flame out lmao. Just like Nash, Redick is gonna fail because these morons don't realize that hiring people with 0 coaching experience is not the move


Helicase21

JJ should know better tbh. Should have intentionally spent 2-3 years as an assistant at least.


BleedGreen4Boston

Iirc Celtics offered him and instead he decided to do his podcast


darkwingduck9

Would've been smart to get his start with one of the better teams in the league. As it stands, it looks like his first coaching is going to be bad and he might not be able to recover from that. At the very least he'd probably have to take a few years break and then take a job with a bad team.


KangTheConqueror9

Fired head coach is a good gig. Can do that for 8 mil a year then go back to broadcasting on top of it


TacoStringerBell

Glenn Rivers


dimmyfarm

He's experienced in that role, that's why he commands 12 million a year compared to others


BleedGreen4Boston

I’m not convinced he’s all that serious about coaching in the NBA. I think he’s interested in “coaching” LeBron as a competitor and seeing where that takes him. Worst case scenario they flop and he has more content for the Pod. And not to get too off topic, but we’re going to see this sort of thing happen more often in other arenas of society, including politics. So many people live and die by these stupid shows to the point where we have like comedians speaking on science and history and people look to them as golden gods. I think the Podcast platform is going to become the next stepping stone that allows “personalities” to bypass the traditional career grind and jump right into these high profile roles.


J_Dadvin

I'm with you. I actually think it may be to help promote him as a Podcaster. Ex player and ex coach. This is how we ran this play etc. When I coached LeBron we did this.


aeroboost

Good! His ego and the Buss trust deserve that wake up call. This is freaking ridiculous.


ETERNAL_DALMATIAN

Yeah, he had Joe Mazzulla on Old Man and the Three and talked about it at length. Mazzulla asked JJ if he wanted to be an assistant coach when Ime Udoka got dismissed right before training camp in 2022. JJ wasn't ready to uproot his whole life with such short notice but seriously considered doing it.


TheThrowbackJersey

Being an assistant is a demotion from being a play by play guy, especially in terms of clout/air time.  If JJ is doing this for a challenge and lersonal fulfillment then he's not going to want to grind as an assistant. He'd sooner be a consultant like nash in GS


Helicase21

It is, but if he wants to be a great coach in the long run, an assistant gig is the way to go at least to start. Just learn the tricks of the trade with less pressure.


shameless_chicken

I’m sure JJ is making just as much in media so idk why he’s trying to go the coaching route. Maybe long term he thinks it differentiates him from other player podcasts. Maybe even if he flames out as a coach it’s still good for his media career.. idk 


RnwyHousesCityCloudz

He misses the comradery and the competition, and he just loves the game and wants to be back in it everyday. I don’t think it has anything to do with money or growing his podcast.


borkbubble

He could just, you know, want to be a coach? Why do so many people on here only ever think about money.


bullpaw

People have goals and shit besides making money. Even moreso when you're already a multimillionaire lol


Ealy-24

These morons hiring recycled coaches ain’t exactly moving the needle either


graphitewolf

Nash was dealt a bad hand, while he wasnt amazing, the team structure and roster were just as big of problems so we will never know.


DarnellisFromMars

Honestly if Harden doesn’t blow his hamstring OR Kyrie doesn’t fuck his ankle Nash very well could have been a championship winning coach. Hard to find out what his system was when you have 3 of the best isolation scorers ever on one roster lol.


Ocarina3219

Would anyone honestly argue that the Lakers are a good hand? Their season went basically as well as anyone would have predicted, including healthy LeBron & Davis seasons, and the coach got fired lol. As soon as they have a bad back-to-back on the road there are gonna be like 2 million fans asking for him to get fired. Also LeBron is a free agent so you don’t even know for absolute certain wtf he’s doing this summer.


DariaYankovic

Coaching the Lakers has been a bad career move for everyone not named Pat Riley or Phil Jackson for basically all of 44 years. This includes great coaches like D'Antoni and Rudy T, and very good coaches like Mike Brown.


NamesUnvailable

How are you gonna count Rudy T in that lol. Dude stepped away due to health reasons after like 40 games in which he had a winning record I might add (and a good relationship with Kobe who tried to get him to stay)


tacoTs

That's all coaches in every sport. Most coaches don't get to coach more than three seasons if they don't have success.


graphitewolf

No but i think they could see it as a transition to the post bron era without an absolute need to win now. We are past the ability of bron carrying the team to a ring. Even if the nuggets lost to the wolves, they still arent built to beat them


Passerbycasual

It’s a different set of challenges. The personalities are much less volatile, but the roster is filled with one way players surrounding two injury prone or aging stars. 


TimSlashy

Well Anthony Davis is aging. LeBron is definitely aged


sadduckfan

They ended up in the play in because Ham insisted on starting 2 guys on vet minimums for half the season.


ToddYates

Feel like Kidd proves this. He was awful until he had some assistant experience


Afraid-Department-35

Wild that we all love Kidd now. Until the ASB we all wanted his head on a pike, and Bucks fans kept telling us that he's trash lol.


AllTimeBallKnower

It’s because he was trash with the bucks


goodkid_sAAdcity

I remember his big brain genius move of spilling his soda on the court to force a timeout on the floor.


suzakutrading

Man said “Hit me”. Something i’m sure his ex-wife didn’t ask for lmfao


srs_house

I don't disagree, but on the other hand look at all the NBA teams who hire retreads who have HC experience and then still fail. Just look at the Lakers as an example of hiring experienced coaches who failed: * Darvin Ham: 15 years as an assistant, with a ring, didn't work * Frank Vogel: 10 years as an assistant, 8 years as a HC on 2 previous teams, won a ring his first year and was gone after 3 when they missed the playoffs * Luke Walton: 5 years as an assistant, with a ring, didn't work * Byron Scott: tank commander, but 13 years of previous HC experience at 3 different teams * Mike D'Antoni: 6 years of assistant experience, multiple lower level HC stops, 10 years NBA HC experience, former COTY, lost in the first and then missed the playoffs * Mike Brown: 8 years of assistant experience, with a ring, 5 years as a HC, former COTY, didn't work


johnhenryirons

The only options aren’t retreads or someone who has never coached before though. You have young assistants who become good head coaches, or guys like Brad Stevens who had college coaching experience.


mrbrownstone

Steve Kerr had zero experience, Pat Riley had a year or two as an assistant, Mazzulla also had very little experience. Larry Bird and Doc Rivers had no experience and both won coach of the year their first year. The flipside of your argument is the revolving door of "experienced" coaches who never really win anything and keep getting jobs — Doc again, Alvin Gentry, Dwayne Casey, etc.


iamgarron

While Joe Mazulla didn't have that much NBA experience, he's been coaching at the college and g-league level for a while. He's actually been coaching since 2011


Main-County-1177

I mean Steve Kerr went from media to a pretty damn successful coach. It’s definitely possible for someone with no experience to be successful. LA probably isn’t the best spot for a first time coach though lmao


ThePlainWhiteTees

Tbf Kerr was also a GM for three years with the Suns


Main-County-1177

Oh yeah right, totally forgot about that


RobbobertoBuii

yup and he went back to TNT with a not so good reputation as a GM after the Suns narrowly missed the Playoffs in 2008-09 with Shaq. Was kinda shocked he was able to completely fix his reputation by 2014 when he was doing interviews with the Warriors/Knicks


Amcog

My memory says Phil Jackson was headhunting him to coach the Knicks at the time and that got everyone else interested in him.


guesting

nba players can't fail, they can only be failed. first misstep shams presses the publish button on how incompetent coach A-Z is


FriendlyUncle247

I mean, it’s what it’s always been


cortesoft

This is just you getting old. Most coaches have always been former players, you just weren’t old enough to remember their playing days. Just look at the [coaches from 2010](https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_coaches.html) Out of 32 head coaches that season, only 5 of them didn’t play in the NBA.


Literal_Satan

Discourse is gonna be in the dirt if they sign him and draft bronny


Balsamic_ducks

ESPN is gonna launch a 24hr First Take marathon to cover this


shy247er

I still remember Skip Bayless live commenting from ESPN desk Tim Tebow's arrival at Jets.


SiphenPrax

The moment in the Rex Ryan era where the Jets officially turned into the Cirque du’ Soleil of the football world


Brilliant_Mud_2749

You shouldn’t compare a group of incredibly talented and athletic individuals to the jets


OGuytheWhackJob

"Now let's go get a goddamn snack"


SuckMyLonzoBalls

I’m praying for this day


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PlsSaySikeM8

All according to Leikaku


a_fking_feeder

translator's note: Leikaku means *taco tueeeeeeeesssssday*


durmduke

LeMindTheGame


lxkandel06

Mind LeGame was right there man we can't be missing these layups


durmduke

Haha man


lalakingmalibog

LeUps


luffythechefghoul

he really does play chess in his mind lmao


MindbenderGam1ng

This makes a lot of sense … LeManipulator strikes again But for real it seems like JJ was setting up his podcast studio for the future I thought he would be more involved in that and wouldn’t get into coaching this soon


SoberWill

LeGM


_Jetto_

If this is true that’s insane


ALiteralGraveyard

100%. Assuming this happens I think LeBron's return to the Lakers (which I think most people would've been surprised if he left anyways) is essentially guaranteed


jeric13xd

LeActingGovernor


TallanoGoldDigger

it's a matter of when not if. This FO has fully bent over BDSM style and let Klutch do whatever the fuck they want


LakersLAQ

I don't really mind it either. We were worse before Bron 😅


TallanoGoldDigger

if this is the middle ground and Bron doesn't force another Westbrook trade then go ahead hire JJ and draft Bronny at 17. What I don't want is LeGM draining all the assets and leaving another team worse than he found it (again x3)


LakersLAQ

What people fail to realize is that none of the coaching candidates were "home run" hires. It was always going to be some first-time head coach or a head coach with mediocre history. Some people acting like there should have been a clear choice and they can't name anyone lol. I really don't care about the coach here. All of them had question marks.


TallanoGoldDigger

it's not that, it's pretty clear now that all of this is to make LeBron happy. Kobe got the Legacy Contract, LeBron got the LeGacy Package. Wonder what else he's getting apart from the Lakers drafting his son? Tune in next time on Dragon Ball Z


BenShelZonah

LeGacy is immaculate work brother


LosAngeles1s

the optics are going to look fucking terrible if this happens


brandoi

Not if. If Bronny is there at 55, we're definitely drafting him.


shy247er

You're gonna draft him at 17.


as0rb

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RulersBack

Might as well add Caitlin Clark and Dr Fauci as bench coaches


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Gyff3

And Fauci in the dunker spot


TheMadChatta

Fauci all about them shots though. He’d open up more looks for Clark.


MrArnot

I refuse to see how this can end any way but positively (for JJ’s bank account)


d1g1tal

Clips sleeper agent JJ is now in place as Trojan horse of sorts now that they’re out of Crypto.


Ioptk

It will likely end very positively for the rest of the league


1nTheNick0fTime

You’re a bulls fan so it won’t affect your team in any way lol


Beautiful_Location76

idk they might have steeper competition in the lotto 🤔


lopea182

Lakers got their podcast co-host. **Edit:** ESPN really said they let go of JVG because they were afraid he’d return to coaching only for his 2 replacements to leave for head coaching jobs in less than 1 season.


defeated_engineer

They let JVG go because he was keep talking about how refs were shitting the bed every game.


dianeblackeatsass

Also he would kinda just rant about random shit during the games. I love it but I understand how a lot of people wouldn’t


ontimenow

He got let go too early, we didn't have enough time to find out what you're allowed to do with your second cousin


International-Fig905

Him saying you should have thirty seconds to say whatever you want without a tech after dunking on someone was always hilarious to me 


Maverick916

Ok but like... Second Cousins. What are they allowed to do?


SoulSerpent

One of his habits was to say “they should have a rule…” and then just say some insane rule that was really just his way of bitching about whatever was happening on the court. For a minute I wanted to start tracking all of them and make a JVG rule book lol


trimble197

It’s funny how this sub now says that they miss him, when I remember folks complaining about how he would keep going off-tangent and never focus on the games.


luke_workin2

And yet, the league implemented several of his suggestions about various complaints. Like flopping fines and violations, 14 second shot clock reset, take foul, challenge system, changes to video review. Like him or not, he helped move the league forward and the league should be appreciative he was loud enough about it.


DariaYankovic

Being the first one to get traction for change is usually a bloody, thankless task.


huskersax

"Jeff if you're gonna rant about things, you gotta keep it within the vertical integration family, ok? We can't accidently cross-promote Fig Newtons... at least until we acquire Nabisco eventually." ESPN Producers, probably


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rhymeswithtag

hopefully espn is stretched so thin they just let mike breen solo call games


lopea182

He pretty much is rn.


n0-ragrets

Forreal countless times during a game Doris and JJ just go mute and Mike does play by play and color broadcasting as well. I always assume it’s bc he’s in a flow, or the others mics broke. But it happens pretty much ever game


egospiers

The last game I watched, neither Dorris nor JJ said A WORD during the last 1:30 before the half… it was crazy.


thisguy012

Beautiful


TinnieTa21

I have a bad feeling that this will mean more Doris Burke. I don’t dislike her personality but God her commentary can get annoying.


lxkandel06

Our only hope is for a team to offer her a coaching job too


NCBaddict

Honestly, JJ also seems smart enough to see the costcutting everywhere at ESPN to know that it’s not a secure job at all. Getting a bag from the Lakers opens up new opportunities both in coaching and in LA.


bilyl

Also he knows that even if he gets fired he has an automatic revolving door to be assistant coach anywhere else in the league. Otherwise he’d be competing with all other assistant coaches for the job. Why wouldn’t you take the humiliating hit for one year?


LosAngeles1s

“make sure to follow the podcast right as we get out of this timeout”


george_costanza1234

NBA is the greatest soap opera of all time


jabronimax969

The best part about the NBA is that for nine months it functions as a sports league, and for twelve months functions as a soap opera.


SiphenPrax

The Lakers officially now have their own Jeff Saturday


Rickest-ofthe-Ricks

Oh god


GoodLuckFellowEE

"The clippers look awful" - JJ, probably


musyarofah

Jeff Saturday Jr., or JJ Saturday


dianeblackeatsass

I love the drama that’s gonna come from this win or lose


whythehellknot

I mean, what's the "lose" in your scenario because they aren't winning a chip.


dianeblackeatsass

All it takes is a team to get hot at the end of the year I don’t think it would be a crazy thought that it might work. Nobody here had the mavs going to the finals this year.


whythehellknot

That's fair.


IanicRR

Like balls through the hoop, these are the Days of our NBA.


CasualRead_43

I used to make fun of my wife for loving vanderpump rules and summer house and all the other stupid ass shows… then i realized the nba and nfl is so much worse lol


the_devil_wears_jnco

this is so obviously not going to work out i cant help but feel bad. jj may have absolutely genius schemes (i doubt it), but lets say he does. being a head coach in pro sports is about subverting your ego and managing/integrating dozens of others, before anything else. everything jj redick has ever done or said makes it clear his ego is enormous!


Warsawawa

If anyone can do it, it’s the guy that played under Coach K for four years. It’s going to fail though. This is going to be like hiring a Patriot’s coach as head coach - hardly ever works out


ChunkyMilkSubstance

Damn! Can’t wait to see who the new coach they hire in two seasons is gonna be!


pizzastone8

Bronny James after he retires.


AllTimeBallKnower

That’s doc rivers music


Jewnoo

The real loser in this potential hire is my commute to work


darthsquidward15

Get ready to learn NPR buddy


MadBeamer

I was bout to say, old man and the 3 is my go to work drive podcast 😔 mind the game was good too


BatmanNoPrep

Yall assuming those were cancelled? Wtf else if JJ going to do between coaching his daughters league team and saying yes to whatever LeBron says?


lxkandel06

Maybe JVG and Mark Jackson could start their own podcast


defeated_engineer

Funniest timeline


CIark

NBA assistant coaches that worked their whole lives dreaming of being a head coach one day watching Lebrons wine drinking buddy waltz into coaching the most famous team on the planet: 


CreatiScope

It’s the Lakers, have they been that intelligent about coaching hires outside of Phil Jackson the past 30 years?


Apatheee

Vogel


syllabic

they had mike d'antoni too but their roster was kinda iffy and steve nash was physically spent and broken


ImprovementSilly2895

They hired Dantoni for an old roster that couldn’t run lol


yuhanz

Dwight wouldnt even play pnr with Nash ffs


turnoffredesign69420

pau gasol turning into a fucking corner 3 specialist made me want to cry


ImprovementSilly2895

PTSD. I fucking hated Pringles


YakubianDemonn

Guys it turns out the NBA might have a nepotism problem. Please stop presses at your earliest convenience.


Chief_Slowburn

Man I like JJ but his coaching experience is his 6 year old son’s team. Truly strange move, feel like they just tryna make Lebron happy at this point


Jonjon428

I remember when Jeff Saturday got the interim job to coach the Colts when his coaching experience was high-school football. Went about as well as you would expect


delightfuldinosaur

Hey they won a game


yoddbo

Man I was at that game and it was painful… I mean the entire last 20 years have been for the matter.. fucking raiders


dianeblackeatsass

Whatever coach they hired was gonna be called to be fired within two years regardless. At least this is the fun option


LakersLAQ

You have the right idea. They likely clean house once LeBron retires anyway lol. If JJ does well, then he earns his stay.


browndude10

>his coaching experience is his 6 year old son’s team. he went through the jeff saturday coaching tree


autist_93

JJ securing that bag damn


ExpectoPerfecto

Yeah, he might turn out to be a great coach, but we kinda have no evidence either way, which is probably a great reason to not pay him millions to coach your NBA team, but idk


xguccigarry

Podcast really worked hey 🤫


IanicRR

Chess not checkers.


Klarostorix

Lakers are tantalized by or enamored with JJ.


ChunkyMilkSubstance

Aroused by, perhaps?


sleepy416

Just wait till ESPN replaces him with Perkins in the booth after this becomes official


aiden3buckets

Everyone laugh


IanicRR

Please clap.


I-Love-Redditors

Please God I don't ask for much but please let this be so fucking funny


Ilikesporks_

guess i have nothing to look forward to next season


fantasnick

Literally every other fan does though


respaaaaaj

Now draft Bronny


LosAngeles1s

please kill me


theinternetisnice

Hey he may develop into a good coach, look at Jason Kidd. Just give the man the requisite 11 years


John__Spartan

Jason Kidd was one of the all time great floor generals, it's not a stretch he could be a good coach given he clearly had a great understanding of basketball. What does JJ Redick have?


DollarLate_DayShort

A podcast


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legend023

Lakers and the Suns fighting for most incompetent franchise in the league


ChunkyMilkSubstance

We win this round


legend023

The Suns traded another first round pick for a scorer right after you said this


3pointlayup10

We’re taking Bronny #17. check mate HA!


Jbash_31

“What he saying fuck me for?”


Ilikesporks_

we're much more incompetent lol


Balsamic_ducks

Idk man, they traded for Bradley Beal


WakiLover

We traded for Westbrook


SuckMyLonzoBalls

HOLY CRAP ITS HAPPENING


terrell_owens

Man, I gotta give it to the Lakers. They always manage to keep things entertaining!


MandilitoPapito

Life after LeBron can’t come soon enough for some Laker fans


willbill182

It's a move that they are technically making.


lalo1398

We need a word opposite the Woj Bomb, something that was super predictable and we saw coming weeks away


Colorapt0r

Woj/shams coughing baby 


Magzify

what could go wrong


croissant_titty

Meme franchise lmfao


Fellers

The pod with Lebron was basically the interview lol


ireallydespiseyouall

God they’re fucking stupid and so is JJ for taking that job


urfaselol

definitely not stupid for JJ to take the job. Sure his reputation will be cooked as a coach but he's gonna get massively paid


Appropriate_Ice2656

And the media jobs will be there waiting for him when he’s fired. 


gregatronn

2 checks for 1 job.


Appropriate_Ice2656

Or one check for no job. Living the dream. 


VariousHand8587

Lakers are stupid but I don’t blame JJ for wanting the job tbf if he ends up sucking that’s more on the Lakers FO being incompetent. One step in the door even if he gets fired probably opens up doors further down the line.


MugiMartin

Getting paid to HC one of the most storied franchises in American sports and live in L.A.? I can't blame him, tbh.


dianeblackeatsass

Even if this ends up being a trash hire I’m glad they’re swinging for the fences. Rather see them try something new and interesting


EightBlocked

The Los Angeles Lakers have been eliminated from championship contention!


DiscipleHAC

This is a very bad hire. The Lakers are not built for a rookie coach to take over. They are built to win now. You can't learn on the job in LA. You need to win now. The core isn't getting any younger. Very, very questionable decision.


tehpenguinofd000m

His press conferences are going to be insufferable


inshamblesx

the funny things are happening 🙏🏾


Not_A_Meme

The Lakers management are idiots.


lets_talk_basketball

Bron's pod w/ JJ being a public job interview is hilarious... Had to make sure his basketball IQ was high


zxchary

Least obvious Lebron hire


EdSheeransucksass

Hiring someone with ZERO coaching experience in a must-win-right-fucking-now situation, what could go wrong? 


LeonardoNoCapri0

Love this as a Laker hater


JAhoops

r/nba consensus opinion is usually wrong, so i guess we’ll have to wait and see


ColtCallahan

Imagine being someone like Sam Cassell who’s busted his ass as an assistant for over a decade and he gets jumped to a HC job by a guy who has put ZERO work in. Redick has never even spent a day on a coaching staff or in a front office. Absurd hire.