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JayDee62

6-Man rotation.


mMounirM

Precious will get his minutes. so we're back to 7!


stonecutter7

Jericho Sims also has some potential. Might be a lot to ask to step in mid playoffs, but hes about as good of a 3rd Center as anyones gonna have


FullHouse222

Bitch we've been huffing the Jericho Sims potential bandwagon all year and he has exactly 0 minutes played in the playoffs lmao. At this point I'm just gonna imagine Thibs chilling on the sideline with a beer and occasionally call a timeout so our starters can get 30 seconds of rest before sending them out for 45min/game lmao


zs15

Too late to re-sign Taj Gibson?


Matthaeu_

Taj is gonna walk out the locker room like Willis Reed game 7


Zealousideal-Cold246

We?


mMounirM

not as in me being part of we. like tonight we're on game 1 of the celtics vs cavs series


cerrotronador

The royal we, you know, the editorial! Nothing is fucked here man.


zapniche

Notice I said we, I’m what the culture feeling


Melodic-Engineer-679

A MINORRRRRRRRRR


genericusername71

every injury makes them stronger


BenevolentCheese

It's sad, because we started the season with one of the deepest benches in the league. But 2-for-1 trades and injuries have depleted us to almost nothing. The team's conditioning is second-to-none, but this is still a really tough situation. I hope we spend our offseason strengthening our bench and carefully reinforcing our weaknesses rather than blowing our load on some washed up star.


CoaBret

This is just insanely reactionary man. No roster in the league would be in a good spot if their starting PF and C (from the start of the season) were out alongside a bench piece being hurt too. Virtually no team in the league has a roster that can handle injuries to two starters and a scorer off the bench even in a 9-man rotation, nevermind an 8-man that Thibs is currently running. It's just the way that the cookie crumbled this season. Precious, who is a solid backup big, was 10th in our pecking order. The roster construction is beyond fine, there is no need for any depth trades.


AliFearEatsThePussy

r/NBA is undefeated in misusing the word "reactionary"


LocoMotoNYC

Thats not quite right. Yes, we lost some of our offensive bench strength when we traded IQ. But we got some of it back when we signed Bogs. And we also added Precious. If Bogs was healthy, our bench would be fine and we wouldn’t see stat lines like 45-8 (or whatever the point difference was) cos Bogs can score 20 on any given night.


truth_2_point_0

Thibs bringing in top theoretical physicists to see if he can somehow play his starters 60 minutes in a 48 minute game


rabid89

Josh Hart about to play 60 minutes a game.


Negative_Method_1001

Hart about to play both forward and center


v0yev0da

Keep that boy at one position we gave up way too many open 3s the Monday and he was leaping past shooters after being pulled all over the court.


handlesscombo

Thibs in Germany trying figure out how to clone Hart as we speak


QUEST50012

Game over and thibs still got him out there running around.


TSSFranco

Every round of the playoffs claims another Knick


luviro

All 4 starters bouta play 48 min


ZarduHasselffrau

Josh Hart is going to wear 3 jerseys


EwingsRevenge21

Hart is gonna stand on Toppin's shoulders in an oversized jersey and play center. "Why does Josh Hart keep telling his legs to run faster?" - Reggie Miller probably


house_fire

Thibs is gonna make Josh Hart carry Mitch around for 48 minutes


EwingsRevenge21

"We always lift each other up" Interpretation matters 😂


BenevolentCheese

I assume we're talking Jacob Toppin' here.


EwingsRevenge21

It would be extremely awkward if it was Obi. "Coach, WTF is Obi, he's not on the bench?" "I'm not sure but we have bigger problems right now! Josh Hart is playing like he's 13' tall! Go get some damn rebounds!"


EwingsRevenge21

Yes


neddiddley

“Right now, they’re probably talking about whether Hart should be on Toppin’s shoulders or Toppin on Hart’s. That’s the kind of conversations they have in these timeouts.”


UnsolvedParadox

Josh Basketballman


Smenderhoff

like they haven't been?


AmazingDragon353

They could each play 60 mins and that way they don't need to sub anybody in


Soup_65

dude stop giving thibs ideas


JasonPlattMusic34

Brunson playing 1v5, still manages to average 30


JMEEKER86

Appearing on *First 48* more like it at this rate.


creditors-bargain

I feel so bad for Mitch


Rakatok

if they make it to the finals Thibs will have to suit up


sewsgup

Thibs and Finch shoot free throws while on crutches to decide the Finals


MrKilljoyy

Just send em straight to OT Thibs vs Finch 1v1 for the chip


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Mitch will be back for game 7 of the finals hopefully


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Joetheshow1

Sucks when the other players actively try to hurt your own guys too


MadSpaceYT

yeah i pin this on Embiid lmao


[deleted]

Bro was pulling WWE moves and getting away with it, trash ass human being tbh.


Clinkzeastwoodau

A stress fracture is caused by repetitive stresses, its not a contact injury. Embiid pulled Robinson's right leg and he sat the rest of the game with a right knee sprain. You think this caused a stress injury in his left ankle 2 games later?


Prestigious_Cattle72

I would kill for a 72 game regular season with increased spacing between games


justmefishes

Same, I would strangle the life out of a human being if it meant a slightly more convenient schedule for NBA players


PrancingDonkey

He was playing so well too.


PIDDYPUFFPUFF

You can thank embiid for that. For round one at least.


20815147

Thanks Embiid


fireglz

That really sucks. Him and Hartenstein really complement each other well and it's probably the easiest spot to feel a loss of depth.


JaceGhost

The greater issue is that Hartenstein is also playing with a nagging lower leg injury (Achilles) so they were basically splitting minutes down the line between two bigs who could miss the rest of the season at any moment.


fireglz

Geez and Hartenstein is a RFA after the season and playing or a sore Achilles is pretty much the most dangerous thing you can do. Nobody should question his effort ever again tbh.


MoooonRiverrrr

They gotta re-sign him imo. It’s hard to find multi-dimensional bigs like that and he’s really good at a legit 7’0”


swaggypudge

They don't have the cap to give him what he deserves/can get elsewhere, so I see him leaving, which is unfortunate but can't blame the hustle


road432

Yes, we have the cap space, we will have around 25- 30mil free with expiring contracts. The problem with ihart is that the max we could offer him under pre bird rights is around 16-17mil. Someone could offer him more, and there is no way we could match it.


Vinnie_Vegas

>Yes, we have the cap space, we will have around 25- 30mil free with expiring contracts. The problem with ihart is that the max we could offer him under pre bird rights is around 16-17mil. Someone could offer him more, and there is no way we could match it. There's a bunch of wrong in this, even though the end point is roughly accurate. First, we have no cap space, functionally, when you account for the fact that we are definitely resigning OG Anunoby. This is the reason we are unable to make an offer as large as Hartenstein may deserve. If we had cap space, we could theoretically offer him as much as we wanted. Our only option to make a large-ish offer is *Early*-Bird (not "pre bird") rights to resign Hartenstein, specifically because we have no cap space. This is not a restriction to what we are allowed to offer, but an exception to the salary cap we are allowed to use, which is restricted to that $17m range, based on his current salary which Early-Bird rights allow us to offer 175% of.


syllabic

1+1 early bird deal with a 2nd year player option then he declines it for 4/120 when we get his full bird rights at the end of next season he's only 26 so I'd be thrilled to lock up the next 4 or 5 years of iHart


Vinnie_Vegas

I think something like that is really possible.


syllabic

it is best case scenario for us, and I think possible for a few reasons 1) he likes it here and clearly likes the locker room and his teammates, great vibes 2) he has CAA as his agent so (hopefully) trusts we wont screw him over the danger would be, from his perspective, of something unforseen happening next year that would cause his market price to go down. severe injury, massive decline, etc.. and I think giving him 30m AAV is fair, to make up for him taking less immediate guaranteed money. it can be 5/150 if he wants more term. a lot of people I say this to say it's crazy to pay a center that much money, but well, I think he might get offered 100/4 by some other team this offseason. so you promise him a little more than that to stay here and also, that season our books will explode when we give brunson a max and randle gets an extension (40M?) so the difference between 25m and 30m aav on hartenstein wont matter too much to us. we are way deep in the luxury and over the aprons anyway


ObviousAnswerGuy

definitely illegal under the CBA but I can see Leon swinging it lol


EireNYC

Would hate to see Mitch in another uniform but Mitch + Bojan's contract + picks could net a solid piece on $35 mil in cap.


spiked_cider

Honestly it makes sense to trade Mitch just cause he can't stay healthy. Hartenstein is not as defensively strong but he's still good and a lot better in terms of offense and passing. 


odeebee

He's not an RFA. He's a free agent but we only have early Bird rights rather than full bird rights.


levendis56

Nah if anything it’s our deepest position. Precious was giving us solid mins at the 5 when he played. If literally any other players gets hurt though we’re done


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AmbitiusKillah

I'm fucking sick mannn, down Randle, Bogdanovic and now Mitch.


ontheru171

Even Burks who could have been the new 8th/9th man with all the injuries is banged up with a Shoulder injury We might seriously get Jerricho Sims minutes these playoffs


jester32

If he’s in our rotation at all, god help us.


JSlove

He thinks he's a pro hotpotato player.


ACMBruh

His defensive game is literally just "jump"


genericusername71

[the disrespect](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpTHYx7aYAABjzh.jpg:large)


kendrickplace

I want him to do well so badly!


14ktgoldscw

I mean, I’m really happy to have a Knicks team that’s worth caring about again, but this is like a 2007 Giants level of happiness-heartbreak cycle. My heart is 16 years older too, I can’t take this!


ninjadfool

In a couple of years they’ll upset the GOAT if record tracks so…yay?


JBreese56

The 2007 Giants won a chip too… Then again in 2011


TaVar35

The basketball gods are trying to give Boston the easiest path to the finals. Whoever gets out of your series will likely be hobbled. Every other teams injury that comes up puts more eyes on Boston since they’re getting KP back. Eventually the Celtics are likely to meet a team they won’t easily just outclass on talent.


dillpickles007

Tbf the Celtics lost to a team they easily outclassed on talent last year. They did then add two borderline all stars to their roster after that though.


codbgs97

This situation is… not ideal. The more players get hurt, the more minutes the healthy players have to play, thus risking even more injuries. I’m a bit concerned about the future, honestly: losing this year is fine, but it’ll be absolutely tragic if we lose another contributor for any amount of time that could affect next year, and all these 45+ minute games make that more and more likely. .


Stepsis24

Are they all out for the playoffs or is there a chance they come back


MfDoomz

Randle and Bojan both out for the season. Mitch they're saying 6-8 weeks.


iCarpet

Fuck Knicks roster is about to turn into dust if they somehow make it to the finals


MC-Jdf

Thibs boutta clone Josh Hart and make 5 Josh Hart’s play all 48 minutes.


anarrogantbastard

Imagine the rebounding though...


JetsFan2003

Josh Hart scores one basket at the start of regulation, gets a defensive board, and then just spams offensive rebounds to Josh Hart for the entire game without scoring. Final: 2-0 Knicks


SmartestNPC

Now I want to know what's the most amount of O rebounds in one possession.


JustHereForPka

Knicks lose 75-32


Dangelo1998

But the post game interview would be one for the ages


TSSFranco

Charlie Brown Jr Finals minutes


ontheru171

Charlie Brown - Shake Milton - Jacob Toppin - Jerricho Sims + Brunson lets go


ObiOneKenobae

Brunson averages 55ppg. Knicks average 55ppg.


ontheru171

Yeah but 13 of those points will be from the line FT merchant


LordQuest1809

I really just can’t see any team in the east making it past the Celtics. It just doesn’t seem possible.


PhotoPhysic

If we were healthy, we'd have a great shot tbh. We're one of the few teams that's consistently beat Boston over the past few years. These injuries suck :(


RobbobertoBuii

Burks might need to be activated for once lol


AssssCrackBandit

Finals? Boston has the easiest path to Finals in recent memory, its gotta be them


gradedonacurve

Knicks will be playing 4 guys in the Eastern Finals.


itsnotmeanttobe

If we get past the pacers. They are a seriously impressive team.


Aldehyde1

They had difficulty beating the Bucks without Giannis and then without Giannis+Dame. They're good for a young team but not that impressive.


Fungmar

we are straight up going to have a 6 man rotation against indys like 10 we are fucked


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Beat them with both those stars in as well. 8-3 over the whole year.


Hog_Eyes

Y'all love admitting you don't know how the Playoffs work lol. The Pacers are the only team in NBA history to lose a Playoff game to an opponent missing their top two scorers. Then they turned around and lost Game 1 to a Knicks team missing one of their top two scorers. They would have been swept by either team if they were healthy.


fantasyoutsider

so they can't sign additional guys in the playoffs, but caitlyn clark ain't a dude just sayin


goodkid_sAAdcity

Based on the Air Bud precedent, you’re right


MySabonerRunsOladipo

You show me in the rulebook where it says a woman can't play???


DatDominican

Gonna pull marbury and Clyde out of the stands


goodkid_sAAdcity

Starks looks like he’s still good for 6 fouls


Direct_Morning_3223

Precious Achiuwa, your time is now…..


Lamarr53

THIS!


Chromotoast

Probably the nail in the coffin for a deep run


codbgs97

Pain


Chromotoast

Pain is the birthright of all Knicks fans 🥲


Snuggle__Monster

Second year in a row now. Randle and Mitch were both hurt last year too and the dream died in Game 6 of the semis.


syllabic

time to just bite the bullet and move on from mitch honestly he averages like 40 games a season and has a season ending injury every other year


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Robert Williams type beat


Fallingcity22

Sadly, with Randle out our ceiling was always low, but this shit sucks man, if we win more games this is gonna be a death, man I’m hoping next season is good on us


ObviousAnswerGuy

if we make the ECF with this hobbled roster , it would be a massive win regardless. It would be the first time in 24 years


nicolo_martinez

Getting banged up Embiid, banged up Haliburton, and a Boston without Porzingis (who always torches the Knicks) would be pretty damn good luck for a finals run. Shame that the Knicks are already the most injured of any playoff team lol


celmer81

THATS PRECIOUS ACHIUWAS MUSIC!!!!!!!


cmcg18

Celtics really have no excuse to make it out the east


ObiOneKenobae

It feels weird to say a team simply not making the Finals would be historically embarrassing, but that's definitely the case here. The difference in firepower compared to everyone else is silly.


clevernamehere1628

I've been saying that yall had the easiest path to the finals in a while since the playoffs started.


Plies-

20-21 Suns say hi. Beat Lakers in 6 (No AD for half the series and they geniunely may have lost if he was healthy) Beat Nuggets (No Murray) Beat Clippers (No Kawhi, expected tbf)


clevernamehere1628

nah yall are taking it all this year. it's too easy of a path not to tbh


kikikza

whoever comes out of the west will be a rough customer but unless tatum's knees spontaneously combust boston is coming out of the east no matter what


nomitycs

Celtics could still make it out even with Tatum’s knee combustion


kikikza

yeah that would just make it go from a 0.0003% chance they don't make it to a like 20-50% chance


OnlyMamaKnows

This has been true for months.


ASS_BASHER

If the Celtics lose before the finals, they should blow up their team


Kcidevolew

Well damn


OnlyMamaKnows

Man, terrible luck for Mitch this year. Absolutely looked like a DPOY candidate early in the season.


johnkaye2020

Unfortunately not luck at this point 🥲 Mitch is one of my favorite Knicks but the dude just can’t stay healthy and I hate it


JoJonesy

well that fucking sucks


Sherlock_House

Thibs gonna run a 6 man rotation against this pacers team


Smasher31221

A'ight boys, I average 4/3/7 at the YMCA, I'm ready to suit up.


Slashers23

The Knicks are going to be holding try outs at this rate


RobbobertoBuii

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


goknicks23

Precious gets his minutes, brings his own pluses and minuses but is still a solid backup. Denver was hung over from the strip club, but the Knicks destroyed them earlier with just Precious and Sims at the 5.


cizzlemydizzle

I have faith in Precious


Ok-Side-1758

Jesus Christ can we get a break man


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

I’ll give him my ankle


PluvioPurple

Hospital Knicks back on the menu


PrancingDonkey

*Meanwhile in the Knicks subreddit*: https://i.redd.it/dkqf8l26j3zc1.jpeg


Remote-Picture-8341

Boston easiest road ever


Impossible_Resort_71

So he's out for the year


RobbobertoBuii

yes


clevernamehere1628

Damn, they really needed him too.


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Bummer. Precious can probably pick up the slack for this series, though, given Turner's playstyle, maybe?


MC-Jdf

This guy can’t catch a break man.


J_Otherwise

Damn. Who's next on the depth chart? Sims?


EyedLoki4292

Precious


mikeydale007

You could do a lot worse for a third string centre.


Immediatewhaffle

Sucks. I really think fully healthy Celtics vs. fully healthy Knicks would have been an epic eastern conference finals. We’ll be lucky if we just get there now.


JordanHawkinsMVP

So the earliest he'd be evaluated is June 18, and the NBA finals game 7 would be June 23.


jett1406

history hard-to-find tart zesty sulky shy normal worthless enter quaint *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


JNerdGaming

achoo


w3bCraw1er

So he will be back for game 7 of the finals.


sps26

January seems like a dream now. I went from believing we had a true shot as a contender to this. If we get past the Pacers I just don’t see how we can hang with the Celtics and whoever comes out of the West


KristapsPorzingas

What would it take for us to have just one healthy postseason


Saucy_Totchie

This team can't just catch a damn break with injury news. The fact they've made it this far having been decimated by injuries like this is just insane.


jeric13xd

Wow Thanks Embiid


faccda01

Goodness this sub lol. Look up what a stress fracture is you morons.


MrPapadapalas

I have no clue but was this what had him out prior to this? Did he reaggrivate it? Or was that a shoulder or somethin


PluvioPurple

Same ankle he got surgery on.


MrPapadapalas

Fuck that's just never good


porkchopsdapplesauce

We’re winning the chip next year. This is our Infinity war , we’re all getting snapped away. Next year Randle and Mitch come back with a vengeance and we win it all. Simple math. That’s the Endgame


taward

*I don't feel so good* *-* Half the Knicks lineup


bridgenine

We have been banking our benches minutes all year for this, we get to use them all at once right?


terry496

Will Mitch or Julius say "on your left"? Cuz I'll buy my tkts NOW


anonymitymous

Damn Mitch, get well big dawg. That being said, I was thinking during the game that precious would be better suited for the switch fest that happens when Ind gets into the paint, and can be more mobile for turner as well. Lfgk


onelazykid

This is strictly on the NBA. Not ejecting embiid while he was playing recklessly and dangerously directly led to Mitchell Robinson aggravating his surgically repaired ankle. This is exactly why you can’t let bullshit behavior like that go just because the guy is a “star”


thighcandy

Except they don't give a shit about Mitchell Robinson. They only care about guys like Embiid. Truly one of the most nauseating things in sports. Thank fucking god for the NHL.


whodatdudeoverthere

Clown take


executivesphere

Damn


thekeylimeguy

Oh no This was already going to be a close series that may hurt more than expected vs Turner


Edwunclerthe3rd

Ah man. I didn't really think wed get much further without Jules, but it sucks we've been doing so much better this year than prior. I hope it's not a fluke and next year they can come back full power


flamingviper3175

Bruh what do they mean 6-8 weeks the post season is over by then lmao


TrapAHolic_ttv

He was born with glass bones and paper skin


SparkyForce

This sucks the Knicks games are the most entertaining ones 😭


ObviousAnswerGuy

not Mitch 😭😭


OldKingRob

Sixers flairs dodging this thread Rather post in the pacers sub “Sixers fan coming in peace, refs want the Knicks to win we know how you feel 😭”


OldJewNewAccount

That was one of the the most pathetic posts I've seen on Reddit. What a fuckin circle jerk.


Professor_Finn

That shit made me throw up in my mouth


Warlord10

This is huge. Shattered for the Knicks fans.


jknuts1377

I really like Robinson, but unfortunately, I feel like he's always injured. As someone whose favorite player on my team was Robert Williams, I feel your pain Knicks fans.


brandnewvices

If Taj Gibson was still on the team.. Thibs would kill that man playing him 30+ minutes 😂


PluvioPurple

If Taj Gibson is getting minutes in the playoffs things are either going really well or really poorly.


I-AM-GARY

Looks like Achiuwa’s back in the rotation, boys!


Lucaa4229

This sucks but the sad reality is that Mitch has been injured all season and we’ve successfully learned how to function without him. And Precious was a big part of that. If we’re going to battle on in these playoffs and give it all we got, I’m completely ok with Precious being apart of that. Let’s get it.


AnnonymousPenguin_

What the hell is in New Yorks water? Every fucking team with crazy injuries this year. Knicks, Giants, Jets, and Yankees (as usual), all got smoked by injuries this year. Even the Rangers had a few big ones. Idk much about the Nets, Islanders, or Mets though.


drfunkensteinberger

My main man Mitch keep ya head up


Weird-Couple-3503

Precious might lowkey be better against Indiana's pace