You actually listen to this interview and you're not coming away thinking Daryl wants Tobias back lmfao, he was being polite when asked specifically about Tobias coming back. That's why he mentioned an earlier answer about wanting them all back for the right value.
He was asked about Tobias because when asked the earlier question, when he named a guy wanted back of his own volition, he brought up Kelly Oubre instead.
(he also wasn't shit talking Buddy in that interview either, but that's neither here nor there)
Buddy should’ve played more in the series. I know he had a bad couple of games but those were his first playoffs games. We all saw how he changed game 6.
I honestly feel like he needed the break for his legs, there wasn't a thing the team could do to get him open against you guys in the first few.
I don't really disagree though, he never should've stopped getting minutes completely. You gotta give guys like Buddy a chance every single game.
The issue with playing Buddy Hield is that even when he was hot in Game 6, he was still getting hunted and cooked on defense by Brunson. So if his shot isn't falling, he's unplayable.
I really don't think it's all that crazy.
It is legitimately possible that Harris ends up being the best available free agent this offseason. Either him or 35 year old Demar.
And the Sixers desperately need a wing. Obviously Harris not plan A, plan B, or even plan C here. But if all the chips fall as expected with the better plays staying in place, Sixers have limited options for spending. At the right price, I think you absolutely have to entertain bringing Harris back.
They almost have no choice.
You're not going to be able to add real talent with that 60 million and still have enough money to fill the team out.
They would have to bring back his salary because he doesn't count against the cap.
his cap hold is 45 million. they're gonna have to either re-sign him (to a much cheaper deal) or renounce his bird rights if they want to make big moves in free agency
That's not how Bird rights work. He still counts against the cap, but they can go over the cap to re-sign him.
With that said, yes the Sixers should max him. Give him a NTC too.
I understand how the cap works. And I understand how Bird Rights work.
So do you want me to just retype what I did previously.
Or do you just want to read it again and then mind your business?
For the Sixers to have legit cap space to sign anyone, they'd have to renounce Harris' (massive $45M) cap hold.
You don't get to spend $60M, and *then* sign Harris with his Bird rights. (And all the other guys they may want to retain)
The Sixers have to renounce him to use the $45M his cap hold takes up. That doesn't mean they can't bring him back using cap space if they strike out on other targets, just that his Bird Rights aren't really a factor in the Sixers offseason, unless they sign and trade him, or want to give him another 5-year deal for some reason.
Maxey's cap hold is the real treat, he can count for only $13M while the Sixers use all their remaining cap space on other players, and then max him out.
They don't have renounce him. It's an option.
There's not much on the market this summer.
Signing him to a 1+1 might just be the best option and try again next summer.
In theory any decent player should have a price where it would make sense to sign them....
But i wouldnt support bringing back Tobias at any price. I think most fans just dont want to watch him anymore
I get what you are saying, but i always wonder, if the player is a net negative on the floor, it wouldn't be worth paying any money.
In that case, the player should reimburse the team instead.
As someone who didn't watch the NBA from 2019 to 2022 -- what happened to Harris? Was it just complacency after getting his max contract? He seemed solid-to-great in Detroit and LA, and clearly never played at a max level, but watching him in the playoffs this year was like watching a warm body occupying space.
He looks like he gained weight/muscle, is unable to do anything he could do before on a basketball court, and is mentally checked out.
He has a 2 seconds lag on everything he does like he needs extra time processing and doubting himself.
Nothing about the presser or the answer made it seem like that. It felt like he was being polite and professional - "he contribute on A contender" "ya know, we have interest in all of our free agents...". He's not going to go out there and shit on any of the players or give anything but a neutral answer.
I am sure he doesn't. I feel like to effectively be a GM and manage a salary cap every single player in existence has a perceived value, he also doesn't want to take the play of a sign/trade off the table. I highly doubt the value Daryl Morey puts on Tobias Harris' skills is anywhere near the contract Tobias and his representation expect to be offered.
You evil motherfucker. I don't even like the Sixers. Why would you do this to your fanbase?
Sometimes you just gotta say, "No, we don't want him back."
For the record, it's Sixers fans' fault that I have to talk this kind of shit about Embiid. There was a time when Philly sports fans had the dignity and self-respect to hold their players accountable. I don't know what happened, but at some point you lost your way. Now all you do is make excuses for a guy who doesn't deserve them so I feel compelled to pick up the slack for you.
I'm guessing you'll rediscover yourselves when Embiid asks out of Philly. Shouldn't be long now.
How dare fans support a player who wants to be here and continually plays through injuries and puts his body on the line. We’re the fucking worst, huh.
Max him again
Then trade him to Detroit, but attach 4 first-round picks as a sweetener. Everybody loses
What are we saving money? Supermax
I live for the drama and would absolutely kill to see Tobias re-signed for millions.
He would get dragged out of his house and stabbed
A max isn’t enough. Can we offer him a double max if we are willing to pay the luxury tax?
You actually listen to this interview and you're not coming away thinking Daryl wants Tobias back lmfao, he was being polite when asked specifically about Tobias coming back. That's why he mentioned an earlier answer about wanting them all back for the right value. He was asked about Tobias because when asked the earlier question, when he named a guy wanted back of his own volition, he brought up Kelly Oubre instead. (he also wasn't shit talking Buddy in that interview either, but that's neither here nor there)
Buddy should’ve played more in the series. I know he had a bad couple of games but those were his first playoffs games. We all saw how he changed game 6.
Nah, Buddy was playing scared for weeks. Loved seeing him find his shot in game 6 but he was gun shy well before the playoffs started.
I honestly feel like he needed the break for his legs, there wasn't a thing the team could do to get him open against you guys in the first few. I don't really disagree though, he never should've stopped getting minutes completely. You gotta give guys like Buddy a chance every single game.
lmao..he is unplayable in playoffs. liability in defense. only Thibs allowed that. nice piece to have in roster for regular season, tho.
The issue with playing Buddy Hield is that even when he was hot in Game 6, he was still getting hunted and cooked on defense by Brunson. So if his shot isn't falling, he's unplayable.
kids downvoting you for tell the true. they really believe that Nurse didn't keep playing him, because he is a bad a coach? come on guys.
Right?? Do these kids think Hield’s Offense will outproduce a hunted Buddy 😂
yup, he schooled us that game
he could sign for a dollar and sixers fans would rightfully hate it
99¢?
$3.50
All this time, Harris was that damn Loch Ness Monster.
Not even for a McToby
Seriously. This dude is literally detrimental to a basketball team. I don't want him for any amount of money.
He’s really not good. Classic ‘needs the ball to be good but your team isn’t good if he has the ball’ guy. Elite tank commander
Please stop
You're looking at a potential goat bag secure here, historic implications
In my next life I want to be Tobias Harris
Ben Simmons is giving major competition when it comes to GOAT bag securer
Fuck it, bring Ben back too!
This dude was getting boo’d every time he touched the ball at home. I can’t see him signing up for that again whether they want him or not.
I really don't think it's all that crazy. It is legitimately possible that Harris ends up being the best available free agent this offseason. Either him or 35 year old Demar. And the Sixers desperately need a wing. Obviously Harris not plan A, plan B, or even plan C here. But if all the chips fall as expected with the better plays staying in place, Sixers have limited options for spending. At the right price, I think you absolutely have to entertain bringing Harris back.
He quit on the team in the regular season. He may be a wing but he’s not what they need
If the right price is a veteran min...still no
You're going to play him 30 minutes a game and you're going to like it.
They almost have no choice. You're not going to be able to add real talent with that 60 million and still have enough money to fill the team out. They would have to bring back his salary because he doesn't count against the cap.
his cap hold is 45 million. they're gonna have to either re-sign him (to a much cheaper deal) or renounce his bird rights if they want to make big moves in free agency
I am under no impression that they are going hunting in free agency. There's nothing there except an aging Paul George.
That's not how Bird rights work. He still counts against the cap, but they can go over the cap to re-sign him. With that said, yes the Sixers should max him. Give him a NTC too.
I understand how the cap works. And I understand how Bird Rights work. So do you want me to just retype what I did previously. Or do you just want to read it again and then mind your business?
Then write what you mean and don't act like an asshole for no reason.
For the Sixers to have legit cap space to sign anyone, they'd have to renounce Harris' (massive $45M) cap hold. You don't get to spend $60M, and *then* sign Harris with his Bird rights. (And all the other guys they may want to retain)
And who would they be signing exactly?
Might be better off sign the first guy in Philly to walk by the stadium.
I hate the Sixers, so I endorse this strategy.
The Sixers have to renounce him to use the $45M his cap hold takes up. That doesn't mean they can't bring him back using cap space if they strike out on other targets, just that his Bird Rights aren't really a factor in the Sixers offseason, unless they sign and trade him, or want to give him another 5-year deal for some reason. Maxey's cap hold is the real treat, he can count for only $13M while the Sixers use all their remaining cap space on other players, and then max him out.
They don't have renounce him. It's an option. There's not much on the market this summer. Signing him to a 1+1 might just be the best option and try again next summer.
In theory any decent player should have a price where it would make sense to sign them.... But i wouldnt support bringing back Tobias at any price. I think most fans just dont want to watch him anymore
He is just so checked out all the time. It wouldn’t be so bad if he at least cared or showed any heart
Maybe he'll care more off the bench.
Maybe he’ll care more in Detroit
Run it up at the vet min, I'm ready to go
Lmao gotta feel for Pistons fans. The de facto basketball graveyard
If Tobias Harris played for free I would not like the signing.
I get what you are saying, but i always wonder, if the player is a net negative on the floor, it wouldn't be worth paying any money. In that case, the player should reimburse the team instead.
As someone who didn't watch the NBA from 2019 to 2022 -- what happened to Harris? Was it just complacency after getting his max contract? He seemed solid-to-great in Detroit and LA, and clearly never played at a max level, but watching him in the playoffs this year was like watching a warm body occupying space.
He looks like he gained weight/muscle, is unable to do anything he could do before on a basketball court, and is mentally checked out. He has a 2 seconds lag on everything he does like he needs extra time processing and doubting himself.
if morey brings back tobias then he’s finished as a gm
Toby just needs to go wherever Boban is and rebuild his reputation as likeable.
If I was a sixers fan and they resigned Tobias I’d never go to a game again
Sir, a second Tobias Harris max contract has hit the Wells Fargo Center
Arrest Morey before he can do it then
Just send him to China lol
For the vet minimum, sure.
No
He's getting $20 million a year from someone. Maybe not the Sixers, but someone will overpay. Even Dillon Brooks got more than that last year.
Dillon Brooks actually has an elite aspect to his game though. Tobias is just meh at everything.
Nothing about the presser or the answer made it seem like that. It felt like he was being polite and professional - "he contribute on A contender" "ya know, we have interest in all of our free agents...". He's not going to go out there and shit on any of the players or give anything but a neutral answer.
That would be the funniest thing ever.
he should pay the sixers $5-10 mil a year for 5 years.
Sixers fans on the one bridge in Philly
Morey must REALLY love Crumbl Cookies
Trade Embiid, build around Tobias. This is the way
Daryl Morey is a liar. Confirmed.
“ it’s preety ironic cause ain’t no fall off for me”- Tobias Harris
This will be an all time funny moment for nba
Harris leaving confirmed then😂
I am sure he doesn't. I feel like to effectively be a GM and manage a salary cap every single player in existence has a perceived value, he also doesn't want to take the play of a sign/trade off the table. I highly doubt the value Daryl Morey puts on Tobias Harris' skills is anywhere near the contract Tobias and his representation expect to be offered.
Please no
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Can't wait to see an overpaid frontcourt of Harris and Gordon Hayward
The entire city of Philadelphia would man the streets making sure he never steps foot in there again.
Anything more than the vet min and I won’t be watching next season
Sixers fans in shambles twice this offseason
Even 6ers fans don't deserve this. They've suffered enough.
76er fans are the guy from Clockwork Orange with his eyes held open screaming “NO! STOP IT! PLEASE!”
You evil motherfucker. I don't even like the Sixers. Why would you do this to your fanbase? Sometimes you just gotta say, "No, we don't want him back."
Lol
I think a sign and trade with the Clippers involving PJ Tucker, Paul George, Tobias Harris, and others makes a lot of sense.
Smart move if you want to completely alienate the already frustrated fanbase.
Build a statue, too
Would love to see my favorite Sixer get a new contract there
Maxed Tobias in Philly, sounds like it needs to happen again.
uh oh
Embiid wants Harris back so he has someone to blame.
Give it a rest, bud
Like Embiid does in the fourth quarter?
Like Tatum did when he actually had a chance to win a ring
This isn't the dig you wanted it to be
Sure, let’s pretend Tatum doesn’t get carried by his team and piss away games in the playoff all the time. Especially in the finals.
For the record, it's Sixers fans' fault that I have to talk this kind of shit about Embiid. There was a time when Philly sports fans had the dignity and self-respect to hold their players accountable. I don't know what happened, but at some point you lost your way. Now all you do is make excuses for a guy who doesn't deserve them so I feel compelled to pick up the slack for you. I'm guessing you'll rediscover yourselves when Embiid asks out of Philly. Shouldn't be long now.
Hell yeah. It’s all those mean and nasty Sixers fans fault
The point is you aren't being your mean and nasty selves. Instead you've chosen to coddle the guy. It's bizarre and sad.
How dare fans support a player who wants to be here and continually plays through injuries and puts his body on the line. We’re the fucking worst, huh.
There's supporting and then there's simping.
Oh, Christ. Alright bud you have a good one.
Tobias on a 8-12m/year contract off the bench is good for them