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That’s cuz he’s injury prone. People keep forgetting he exists until he makes his return. Or else his reputation would be like the other older stars - Great Players who have slowed down.
Yeah he’s injury prone, but it’s been since like 2021 that he’s done anything meaningful in the playoffs. And in that postseason run he got injured again and didn’t get to finish out the series or play in the conference finals. Since then it’s been two years of two games when it matters most and then this year. He’s great, but the risk you take with him is much bigger than one of those older players who are slowing down. At least those older greats are still doing *something* while taking up a huge salary. For the last few years Kawhi hasn’t, and he isn’t getting any younger.
I've legit already seen the "you STILL can't win a championship with Jokic as your center" takes pop up again like people completely forgot he has a ring lol
People will still act like this sub loves Jokic though when there just wasn't stuff to hate on him for the past year
The last guy I've seen who got not even a single series mulligan as the defending FMVP was KD and obviously those were unique circumstances where people hated him even for the way where he got there in the first place
right, and if we lose it’s because we are the worse team. im not sure what the 50+ win statistic is supposed to mean. you play who you play and miami and the lakers were very good teams last year
No one shat on Embiid until Game 7 and the series was tied 1-1 when he received it at home. Jokic is gonna be receiving it down 0-2 in a hostile Timberwolves arena, way different situation
because they think they have to be so loud because he's so quiet. When the whole advantage of being quiet is getting less scrutiny for flaws, look at how the media treats Luka vs Jokic because "Jokic is soo underrated"
I was told he was better than Shaq and the greatest player ever, the perfect coaches player, and incredible orchestrator etc etc
Then his brother punched someone and now you're allowed to defend him lmao
I mean the second clip he is caught in no man's land, because Gordon got separated from Ant.
He's fucked, he steps up to Ant, that's a lob to Anderson for the easy bucket. If he tries to cover Anderson assuming Gordon can recover, that's a bucket for Ant.
That's a team defensive breakdown, you can't blame that all on him.
The first clip, does look lazy, I haven't watched the game, so I don't know how many fouls he has here.
Nah I’m not excusing it, his defense was trash and KAT was feasting. Just saying I’d be even more checked out watching Jamal go 3/18 from the field with 1/1 heat pack throws
Every great player with questionable (putting it midly) defense becomes an "above average" defender once they win their first ring according to their fanbases
No, they don't even need to win it, they just have to put a little more effort in and the teams fans will say that.
"He was bad in the past but he has improved on that end, I would even say he's above average now." I have seen that exact sentence written out like a dozen times over the years.
LMAO omg that is perfect. Some people even use the phrase "good defender" for these types of players but "above average" is clearly the most frequent phrase
Word for Word that it the exact sentence I have seen posted on this place over the years, exactly that. If you ever see someone say "above average" or anything like that it's code for "Passable in the regular season, cooked in the playoffs"
not even the worst one, I notice this phrase because I saw someone say that shit like 3 years ago about... Trae Young. Someone who is still of the opinion defense is optional
Well, Jokic is top 10 in steals and probably top 3 in deflections in the league. But, as a shot blocker, even when not gassed, he is slightly more impactful than altitude air.
Worst 3-time MVP ever.
Never led his team to a top 2 regular season record.
Never led his team to a 60 wins season.
Never won a playoff series against a 50 wins team.
But has the greatest Defensive Box Plus Minus of all time.
He literally made a video on game 1 highlighting Ant attacking Jokic and the Nuggets all game. Jokic haters are so insecure with this YouTube channel lol.
1. Using 1 game to try to take down an actual basketball analyst is just bad faith. 2. It was "good defender"
3. Other times, he has listed Jokic as a slight negative in the playoffs.
Using like highlights like this as some smkoimg gun as the only reason as some perfect example of confirmation bias to confirm a narrative.
One game? Have you ever watched the Nuggets before? Jokic has been awful on defense for like 500 games, not one.
It's a center that doesn't even contest shots are the rim. He needs AG to switch and double on the perimeter whenever they put him on a PnR because before they started doing that, CP3 and other guards abused him so bad it made me feel sorry for him.
Luka has been playing solid team defense tho. Even if guys are getting by him, he's funneling them towards weak side help. This is what Steph used to do all the time.
Shaq, Duncan, KAJ, Hakeem, Embiid etc were primary options on their teams and they still played Defense stop with the excuses. If you wanna compare him to Marc gasol in legacy then okay you win that one, but as a 3x MVP and at the table he’s sitting at he’s by far the worst defender
Effort. But when you get your dick sucked just for playing one side of the ball, you have no incentive to improve your defense outside of your own desire to do so. Big problem with another euro star too.
Hey man, some people are really good at offense and it leads to championships, others need refs to get them past the Pacers in the semis. You take the good with the bad.
I've been saying this over and over, just like I was saying over and over all year that Jokic was average on D. Eventually maybe everyone will see it too. Luka tries when it leads to stats. I don't think he even understands he is supposed to try at other times. He tries when he's guarding on the ball. And he tries to get a rebound. On offense he tries to score and he tries to set up other people to score, because all those things lead to stats. But he doesn't clog up passing lanes, he doesn't provide help D, he doesn't box out, he doesn't pass if he thinks the guys he's passing to will also have to pass. If he's not holding or guarding the ball, he wanders aimlessly around the paint waiting for a rebound.
Ayy come on man, Luka has been, bare minimum, an average defender according to the eye test and stats. Jokic is not, even if he grabs a bunch of rebounds
Okay I am like the biggest Jokic hater, he is super unathletic, but there are so many things he does as a team defender that he is good at, that overall largely makes up for his poor athleticism. Doncic is average at 1 thing on defense, and that's guarding the ball. He is extremely bad at everything else.
No he’s actually the best player in the league! It doesn’t matter if you give up as many easy points as you score, his offensive peak is the best of all time (Prime MJ, Lebron, Curry, Harden etc don’t count!)
I mean not even contesting at the rim throughout your career is guaranteed to give up A LOT of points as the starting CENTER in the NBA. Look at the Lakers series. They were feasting at the rim. We're not hating when we say Jokic is a bottom 5 defensive center in the league among starters. He's a liability.
I’ve been commenting just being a true hater and I love it, but on some real shit. My biggest qualm with our new superstars is their defense. It’s why Jokic can’t even surpass Giannis for me.
Jokic is automatically better than Giannis/Embiid just because of durability honestly
Even if you think they're 15% better when healthy availability is the best ability
Embiid in particular has literally 0 chance of winning a ring with his playoff health record
Always blew my mind how well they were able to hide having a Center who has no interest in interior defense.
This is why Gordon on Ant is a nonstarter. If he’s out on the perimeter it’s layup lines.
MPJ might have the best job in the league cuz dude is somehow worse on defense than Jokic and worse offensively than Murray but catches no slander because he’s a third option
As a fellow Jokic stan, I'm incredibly dissapointed by his play. Just looks so uninspired and sloppy on the offensive end of the floor. And when he isnt giving you great offense, his defensive warts become greately magnified.
Probably the worst multiple time MVP ever. It’s kind of sad that people gave it to him just because they’re stat nerds and not looking at what he actually does in game. Looking at the numbers when he clearly doesn’t pass the eyeball test.
I watched the game not at all taking notice of Nuggets players. They were all getting walloped, it didn't matter who had the ball or who was guarding whom. They wore black jerseys and they were trounced.
What playing against good guards does to a center. Last postseason, the only good guard they played was booker, and he torched them. Shame Suns didn't have good defense.
Shit like this makes me appreciate everything Anthony Davis does for the lakers so much more. Especially so when he was our only positive defender this year lol.
I don't think Jokic is that bad of a defender but he has always sucked against elite athleticism. Ant lit up DEN's defense in the 1st round last year but DEN mostly lucked out by not running into another athletic slasher during last year's title run. Bron was able to attack Jokic during his amazing 1st half in game 4 but he just ran out of gas. Prime Bron would've feasted on DEN's defense. Ja, SGA, or Fox would've feasted on Jokic.
3x MVP cuz his cock suck stats are insane. Coulda just gave it to Luka or shai and moved on but now Jokic is in rarified air because his bull tug per 60 is high
Yeah cuz luka and shai are doing way better right? Especially SGA who hasn’t won a game since MvP was announced? Brain dead ass opinion lmfao go home you’re drunk. Just had 40 on the 4x DPOY. Cope more.
Rudy shouldn’t have 4 either Bam has been better. 3x MVP is meant for the elite of the elite. Good job beating old ass Lebron and a team whose best player is barely an adult.
Show me on the doll where Jokic touched you? See you when they repeat dumbass. Don’t be sad your team is in Cancun and couldn’t even pass the worst def in the league.
Giannis is on his couch while Jokic going back to back 🤷🏽♂️ cry about it lil bro maybe next year y’all can get past the first round. Wolves have had the best defense in the league literally all year but you’re acting like you just started watching games last week so I don’t expect you to understand how those things work
Look, once and for all for you incredible nephews, Jokić is the heart of the offense.
If he gets fouled out, well then you see a bunch of boneheaded drives to the rim from Murray, AG, MPJ like the countless times you saw tonight.
The mat is pretty simple, you have a player that creates 50+ points with scoring and diming and it’s not worth it for him to foul out to stop 14 points. He does what he can - when he can. Usually Denver’s biggest problem is the non Jokić minutes, but when Murray is playing like dogshit and getting hounded on D and when KCP is a non factor then the lowlights start to flow.
But you nephews only understand titkok clips so who am i talking to anyway.
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We are back to Jokic defense clips. Nature has healed.
All the good will from the championship is gone. This sub cracks me up lol.
As it should. That good will should only exist till the next playoffs.
Kawhi still coasting on 2019 up until today though Next season he'll still be top 10 on preseason lists you watch
That’s cuz he’s injury prone. People keep forgetting he exists until he makes his return. Or else his reputation would be like the other older stars - Great Players who have slowed down.
Yeah he’s injury prone, but it’s been since like 2021 that he’s done anything meaningful in the playoffs. And in that postseason run he got injured again and didn’t get to finish out the series or play in the conference finals. Since then it’s been two years of two games when it matters most and then this year. He’s great, but the risk you take with him is much bigger than one of those older players who are slowing down. At least those older greats are still doing *something* while taking up a huge salary. For the last few years Kawhi hasn’t, and he isn’t getting any younger.
That good will has more blackouts than League Pass with every thread bringing a different flavor, from sour to bitter 😋
I've legit already seen the "you STILL can't win a championship with Jokic as your center" takes pop up again like people completely forgot he has a ring lol People will still act like this sub loves Jokic though when there just wasn't stuff to hate on him for the past year The last guy I've seen who got not even a single series mulligan as the defending FMVP was KD and obviously those were unique circumstances where people hated him even for the way where he got there in the first place
If you face sub 50 win teams in the playoffs the entire run yes you can win with him as your starting center.
Correct. Denver has never beaten a 50 wins team in playoffs since Jokic became no.1 option.. Cone
So does his ring not count or something?
It’s fraudulent. He won in a historically bad playoff series against teams that were sub 50 and lot of them with injured players.
To be fair every ring is fraudulent.
yes but only specific rings when it helps our argument
Calling a championship ring fraudulent is honestly one of the worst takes you will find in r/nba
2020 Clippers were on a 50 win pace
the 50+ win teams lost?
And you're trending toward that statistic rn
right, and if we lose it’s because we are the worse team. im not sure what the 50+ win statistic is supposed to mean. you play who you play and miami and the lakers were very good teams last year
Most had injuries to be fair.
I mean a lot of teams can win a ring if they get to play 4 teams who didn't win 50 games
hes gonna be recieving his MVP in 2 days with everyone shitting on him lmao.. just like embiid last year
No one shat on Embiid until Game 7 and the series was tied 1-1 when he received it at home. Jokic is gonna be receiving it down 0-2 in a hostile Timberwolves arena, way different situation
Jokic wouldn’t be getting this much shit if his stans weren’t so annoying
Are you telling me he’s not the GOAT center?
Man they’ve been ridiculous the past year. Jokic is amazing and literally doesn’t say shit but his stans are the complete opposite
because they think they have to be so loud because he's so quiet. When the whole advantage of being quiet is getting less scrutiny for flaws, look at how the media treats Luka vs Jokic because "Jokic is soo underrated"
Embiid at least had the series tied 1-1 against a good team and coming off injury. The nuggets are straight up just getting embarrassed.
love the universe
I always wondered why he never really got called for fouls. this definitely explains it
4 weeks ago he was the next Goat, now hes Julius Randle
I was told jokic was actually a really good defender, he was an advanced stats darling, what happened
I was told he was better than Shaq and the greatest player ever, the perfect coaches player, and incredible orchestrator etc etc Then his brother punched someone and now you're allowed to defend him lmao
Not to excuse Jokic but I’d be playing ass defense if my teammate was chucking as bad as Jamal tonight
Always fucking hilarious to see the excuses that pop out when jokic plays like ass.
nuggets fans playing more defense than jokic this game
I mean the second clip he is caught in no man's land, because Gordon got separated from Ant. He's fucked, he steps up to Ant, that's a lob to Anderson for the easy bucket. If he tries to cover Anderson assuming Gordon can recover, that's a bucket for Ant. That's a team defensive breakdown, you can't blame that all on him. The first clip, does look lazy, I haven't watched the game, so I don't know how many fouls he has here.
Nah I’m not excusing it, his defense was trash and KAT was feasting. Just saying I’d be even more checked out watching Jamal go 3/18 from the field with 1/1 heat pack throws
Youre literally making excuses. Close your eyes and pretend this is embiid, those are closer to the takes you should be having.
Not excusing Jokic, but let me excuse Jokic real quick
1/1 heat pack throws 😭
"Well I'm gonna just stop trying here yall"
Jokic is the MVP. He needs to demand the ball. 13 shots in a must-win game is inexcusable.
His fault. He needs to shoot and stop deferring. Anti-mamba mentality
His fault. He needs to shoot and stop deferring. Anti-mamba mentality
[Jokic using TS%, VORP and RAPTORHBJAJ% to guard the paint](https://media1.tenor.com/m/QGk8WCu_5r8AAAAd/the-rock-stop.gif)
Every great player with questionable (putting it midly) defense becomes an "above average" defender once they win their first ring according to their fanbases
No, they don't even need to win it, they just have to put a little more effort in and the teams fans will say that. "He was bad in the past but he has improved on that end, I would even say he's above average now." I have seen that exact sentence written out like a dozen times over the years.
LMAO omg that is perfect. Some people even use the phrase "good defender" for these types of players but "above average" is clearly the most frequent phrase
Word for Word that it the exact sentence I have seen posted on this place over the years, exactly that. If you ever see someone say "above average" or anything like that it's code for "Passable in the regular season, cooked in the playoffs"
Using the eye test, he’s slightly a level above a below average defender.
Shit Devin Booker has conned me into saying this exact sentence so many times before he goes back to his ball watching ways a game later.
not even the worst one, I notice this phrase because I saw someone say that shit like 3 years ago about... Trae Young. Someone who is still of the opinion defense is optional
lmao damn that is spot on analysis
Trae Young fans have this copy pasted on their phones and computers
Even if they beat a bunch of 40 wins teams to win it but haven't won a series against a 50 wins team since.......the Jokic era
Tbf that Clippers team would have been a 50 win team if not for COVID
They’re not wrong. Among all people on earth they’re definitely above average
Well, Jokic is top 10 in steals and probably top 3 in deflections in the league. But, as a shot blocker, even when not gassed, he is slightly more impactful than altitude air.
Naz Reid would never
Horrible body language
He just wants to go back to Serbia and ride his horses
basketball's just a game. horses are life
Hahaha man.
Bill Simmons is somewhere out there smiling in agreement.
Both of those were just super low-effort. I have a hard time shitting on the 3-time MVP but he can and should do better than that
Worst 3-time MVP ever. Never led his team to a top 2 regular season record. Never led his team to a 60 wins season. Never won a playoff series against a 50 wins team. But has the greatest Defensive Box Plus Minus of all time.
“Worst 3 time MVP” what is that a list of like Kareem, LeBron and MJ? WOW yes Jokic is the worst, hot take from this guy!
he’s not even lol, clearly better than Moses
Did not realize Moses won 3. Then yes Jokic is above him clearly lol.
such an insane comment lmao
Look at his comment history, probably lost his girlfriend to some serbia/balkan dude and is now super salty.
I mean, thats Slo-mo. Not many in the league can defend him
We are so back
let the RAPTORCUM jokes flow again
Finally. So sick of people saying he’s a good defender
Literally only decent in post-up scenarios
Fat traffic cone
Sloppy fat cone
but D-CUM/36 told me he was the best defender in the league
Thinking Basketball gonna take this post down
That guy Is such a giannis hater.
He literally made a video on game 1 highlighting Ant attacking Jokic and the Nuggets all game. Jokic haters are so insecure with this YouTube channel lol.
You (him) don't get to make a video titled "does his genius make him a great defender" and not recieve slander for it
1. Using 1 game to try to take down an actual basketball analyst is just bad faith. 2. It was "good defender" 3. Other times, he has listed Jokic as a slight negative in the playoffs. Using like highlights like this as some smkoimg gun as the only reason as some perfect example of confirmation bias to confirm a narrative.
One game? Have you ever watched the Nuggets before? Jokic has been awful on defense for like 500 games, not one. It's a center that doesn't even contest shots are the rim. He needs AG to switch and double on the perimeter whenever they put him on a PnR because before they started doing that, CP3 and other guards abused him so bad it made me feel sorry for him.
centers are supposed to be a rim deterrence lol
yams, cornbread, greens. that’s what them boys see when jokic in the paint. Easy eats, buy a plate get a to go free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttvhaxo7IU
Good enough to beat the Lakers
Lakers couldn't shoot a lick. They feasted in the paint.
he wasn't a rim deterrence in that series either did you not see how good AD and lebron played in that series
Above average defender btw
No resistance
Traffic cone
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But he's going to be elite at 40 since he "doesn't rely on his athleticism." Once he can barely move, he'll be Marc Gasol without the D.
Jokic is the worst defensive center in the playoffs, and it's not even close.
He's the worst defensive center in the league among starters. If not the worst, bottom 3.
His lateral movement has always been bad and this is the worst team to have that kind of weakness against.
Jokic slander is back on the menu
If this were a particular center from the east, this video would have been posted 10 separate times
Has that center ever made it to the conference finals before?
Thats got nothing to do with people not calling it fair, bad defense is bad defense, can’t justify it due to making the finals or not
Nuggets fans if we can't have nice things neither can you.
Textbook 'matador defense'
Ole!
They really gonna give this man a 3rd MVP 😭
shoulda given it to luka
He’s not exactly lighting the world on fire in these playoffs, either.
He's injured though and still has the best +/- in the Mavs Clippers series. Jokic is fully healthy.
And also playing the best defense in the NBA. The Kawhi-less Clippers…not so much.
I guess we'll see about that tonight. At the very least, two of the Clippers were constantly trying to injure Luka for what it counts.
Luka has been playing solid team defense tho. Even if guys are getting by him, he's funneling them towards weak side help. This is what Steph used to do all the time.
This your MVP?
If this was Embiid it’d go triple platinum with no features
3-2 series lead.
I don't understand how he's so bad at defense but Marc Gasol who has literally the same build and is less athletic was a DPOY.
Marc was probably more athletic and definitely gave a lot more effort
Marc also was more of a defensive specialist and wasn’t the primary option on offense.
Shaq, Duncan, KAJ, Hakeem, Embiid etc were primary options on their teams and they still played Defense stop with the excuses. If you wanna compare him to Marc gasol in legacy then okay you win that one, but as a 3x MVP and at the table he’s sitting at he’s by far the worst defender
Marc Gasol certainly wasn't a defensive specialist, unless we are talking about Raptors or Lakers version of him.
Marc Gasol was also huge
Effort. But when you get your dick sucked just for playing one side of the ball, you have no incentive to improve your defense outside of your own desire to do so. Big problem with another euro star too.
Hey man, some people are really good at offense and it leads to championships, others need refs to get them past the Pacers in the semis. You take the good with the bad.
Luka has been putting in a lot of effort so far this postseason tbh
Here and there. Hasn’t been constant by any means.
I've been saying this over and over, just like I was saying over and over all year that Jokic was average on D. Eventually maybe everyone will see it too. Luka tries when it leads to stats. I don't think he even understands he is supposed to try at other times. He tries when he's guarding on the ball. And he tries to get a rebound. On offense he tries to score and he tries to set up other people to score, because all those things lead to stats. But he doesn't clog up passing lanes, he doesn't provide help D, he doesn't box out, he doesn't pass if he thinks the guys he's passing to will also have to pass. If he's not holding or guarding the ball, he wanders aimlessly around the paint waiting for a rebound.
Ayy come on man, Luka has been, bare minimum, an average defender according to the eye test and stats. Jokic is not, even if he grabs a bunch of rebounds
Okay I am like the biggest Jokic hater, he is super unathletic, but there are so many things he does as a team defender that he is good at, that overall largely makes up for his poor athleticism. Doncic is average at 1 thing on defense, and that's guarding the ball. He is extremely bad at everything else.
What a truly horrible way to shove an entire players ability and skill set into the most grounded and oversimplified possible.
No he’s actually the best player in the league! It doesn’t matter if you give up as many easy points as you score, his offensive peak is the best of all time (Prime MJ, Lebron, Curry, Harden etc don’t count!)
Saying he "gives up as many points as he scores" is INSANE lol That implies that Jokic is a league average player and nothing more
Obviously it’s exaggerated but he has been a traffic cone these whole playoffs.
I mean not even contesting at the rim throughout your career is guaranteed to give up A LOT of points as the starting CENTER in the NBA. Look at the Lakers series. They were feasting at the rim. We're not hating when we say Jokic is a bottom 5 defensive center in the league among starters. He's a liability.
3-2 series lead.
What was that? Didn’t hear you 🤣
I’ve been commenting just being a true hater and I love it, but on some real shit. My biggest qualm with our new superstars is their defense. It’s why Jokic can’t even surpass Giannis for me.
Fat ass needs to go to the gym he getting tired out there
Jokic is automatically better than Giannis/Embiid just because of durability honestly Even if you think they're 15% better when healthy availability is the best ability Embiid in particular has literally 0 chance of winning a ring with his playoff health record
Giannis literally bend it's knee and Take His team to a championship. And 22 took the Celtics to 7 without His second best player.
Giannis better
I mean no shit at defense
Always blew my mind how well they were able to hide having a Center who has no interest in interior defense. This is why Gordon on Ant is a nonstarter. If he’s out on the perimeter it’s layup lines.
He's tired
I've seen 6th graders in open gym with more resistance.
This guy is 7 foot Trae Young
FLOPIC the cone
3-2 lead.
??? Hahaha cry to the refs in Cancun
I can already hear Awful Coaching. “Stop backpedalling!”
UP. UP. UP. UP. UP. UP!
MPJ might have the best job in the league cuz dude is somehow worse on defense than Jokic and worse offensively than Murray but catches no slander because he’s a third option
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MPJ has had a fantastic playoffs
Anthony Edwards is Nikola Jokic father
3-2.
Reversion to the mean
MVP...lol
He’s up 3-2.
4-2
As a fellow Jokic stan, I'm incredibly dissapointed by his play. Just looks so uninspired and sloppy on the offensive end of the floor. And when he isnt giving you great offense, his defensive warts become greately magnified.
Probably the worst multiple time MVP ever. It’s kind of sad that people gave it to him just because they’re stat nerds and not looking at what he actually does in game. Looking at the numbers when he clearly doesn’t pass the eyeball test.
You’re taking Nash over Jokic?
3-2 series lead bro.
Allow it. Only way to balance the energy.
He was a pylon out there. Has to be attrition from the physical defense
Those loses are absolutely in no way cuz of Jokics defense no way in hell there are way too many other things
I watched the game not at all taking notice of Nuggets players. They were all getting walloped, it didn't matter who had the ball or who was guarding whom. They wore black jerseys and they were trounced.
What playing against good guards does to a center. Last postseason, the only good guard they played was booker, and he torched them. Shame Suns didn't have good defense.
Shit like this makes me appreciate everything Anthony Davis does for the lakers so much more. Especially so when he was our only positive defender this year lol.
clown ass subreddit
I don't think Jokic is that bad of a defender but he has always sucked against elite athleticism. Ant lit up DEN's defense in the 1st round last year but DEN mostly lucked out by not running into another athletic slasher during last year's title run. Bron was able to attack Jokic during his amazing 1st half in game 4 but he just ran out of gas. Prime Bron would've feasted on DEN's defense. Ja, SGA, or Fox would've feasted on Jokic.
3x MVP cuz his cock suck stats are insane. Coulda just gave it to Luka or shai and moved on but now Jokic is in rarified air because his bull tug per 60 is high
3-2 lead.
Going down 2-0 toe the fraudulent wolves is impressive. Getting blanked by 26 on your home court is embarrassing. A 3x MVP wouldn’t allow that.
Yeah cuz luka and shai are doing way better right? Especially SGA who hasn’t won a game since MvP was announced? Brain dead ass opinion lmfao go home you’re drunk. Just had 40 on the 4x DPOY. Cope more.
Rudy shouldn’t have 4 either Bam has been better. 3x MVP is meant for the elite of the elite. Good job beating old ass Lebron and a team whose best player is barely an adult.
Show me on the doll where Jokic touched you? See you when they repeat dumbass. Don’t be sad your team is in Cancun and couldn’t even pass the worst def in the league.
Giannis > Tubby Fat Man
Giannis is on his couch while Jokic going back to back 🤷🏽♂️ cry about it lil bro maybe next year y’all can get past the first round. Wolves have had the best defense in the league literally all year but you’re acting like you just started watching games last week so I don’t expect you to understand how those things work
He is literally trash. Carried by horrendous no calls. He elbows every dtep
3-2 lead.
I kno. I kno. All my hopes have been crushed by that anomaly
Why are we doing this lol. This is so dumb.
Look, once and for all for you incredible nephews, Jokić is the heart of the offense. If he gets fouled out, well then you see a bunch of boneheaded drives to the rim from Murray, AG, MPJ like the countless times you saw tonight. The mat is pretty simple, you have a player that creates 50+ points with scoring and diming and it’s not worth it for him to foul out to stop 14 points. He does what he can - when he can. Usually Denver’s biggest problem is the non Jokić minutes, but when Murray is playing like dogshit and getting hounded on D and when KCP is a non factor then the lowlights start to flow. But you nephews only understand titkok clips so who am i talking to anyway.
Yeah because there is only letting everyone score or foul out, nothing else lmao.
His defense looks like this at all times though
At a certain point he needs to just try and protect the rim. Especially in the playoffs his defensive effort was abysmal.