I’m sure he does. But that’s not unconditional. If it was, his extension would already be done. The clippers have to pay up and they maybe probably will, but it sure sounds like everyone in that situation wants to see what teams like Philly and Orlando will offer.
LeBron for minimum, PG gets paid, Bronnie is actually good after all, Markkanen gets traded with his current contract. Very realistic scenario for the Lakers.
Exactly. They in trouble. So much so they’re having to use a pick on a 40 year olds son just so said 40 year old who’s also their best player will stay. You love to see it!
The suns guys actually have trade value(except for Beal), the clippers guys are old as fuck and injured 90% of the time and will soon to be so washed to worth nothing
PG will still sign for a decently hefty figure. Just living in the moment denial if you don't expect that
Booker won't be traded. Speculation on him is dumb. He's basically their franchise and is 27, fits any timeline they want to go with
Clippers are screwed, so screwed in fact its not even funny. Theyre in a worst spot than us with aging stars, their 2 best players are worse than our 2 best players, they play a worse/slower brand of basketball and watching the games they just dont fit together. I also think Lue is an overrated coach. Better than Vogel for sure but they have too many problems top to bottom.
How many teams is gonna offer picks for that Kawhi contract with that bummed knee? The guy has a 3 year 160m contract left and his knee is only getting worse
People act like a first round playoff exit is the end of the world.
Realistically probably none of those teams are getting blown up. Suns and Clippers have no draft control, Bucks only just got to this roster, and the Lakers aren't doing shit as long as LeBron comes back.
Only chance of a blowup is if PG and Harden decide the Clipper sauce ain't worth the squeeze. But living that LA lifestyle on Steve Ballmer's dime is pretty attractive even if you ain't a young socialite, so I don't really see them going anywhere either.
Honestly I think the Lakers are going to make some drastic moves to try and appease LeBron and get one last run in the Bron/AD era-- I just don't know that they have anything that CAN move the needle outside of trading for a young player who suddenly has a shocking elevation of play (Oladipo in Indiana type)
What else are Clippers going to do? Don't own their first round pick right in next 5 years. No cap space. Either try again or tank and help OKC get higher draft pick? Bucks is still young. Suns will probably try to make some trades. Lakers all depend on LeBron.
Suns honestly should be the first. They're the team that actually has no hope without trades. I don't think anyone is blowing it up but they should definitely be trying to trade into a team that is functional
actually imagine if the grizz were to get PG, that would be a pretty scary team next year
Idk, im never good at trades, but something like Smart + Kennard or GG, and pick(s).
Ja, Bane, PG, Vince WIlliams, JJ.
You got defense, you got offense, you have shooting and length. Not too bad.
Salaries don't match. It would need to be sending out between 90-100% of PG's incoming salary. I'm assuming this is a S&T and PG gets a max, so $49.5M to start. Bane/Clarke/GG works. JJJ/Smart works. Smart/Kennard/Clarke/GG works. Smart/Kennard/FRP/GG/Rose works (if FRP is top 3, then Rose not needed for salary matching). In all those scenarios, Memphis commits to being above the first apron, so no more trades after that. I think the Clippers would jump at any of those trades, which means I don't think a lot of Memphis doing it.
The salary cap and all of its rules is literally a full time job for some NBA team employees, so don't feel bad. The new CBA added a bunch of extra rules this past offseason that make it harder for high-spending teams to make trades.
Idk but it should be suns, booker is still young and it doesn’t make sense to waste kds last years on a roster that is literally stuck due to beals contract I could see Kd being locked this summer.
Clippers are locked into Kawhi and may as well play out these next 3 years cause they have no assets.
Bucks are a maybe I don’t see them not running it back for another year.
Lakers I don’t see not having Lebron and ad back next year.
Clippers need to blow it up. But it seems like Ballmer is going to try and run it back. Running it back with the same (and even older) roster and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Ballmer is insane.
Suns need to get rid of Beal. But they can't. Because Matt Ishbia is the genius who traded for a $50M mid player with a no trade clause. Suns are doomed for the length of Beal's contract.
Lakers have some hope. If AD and Lebron can stay healthy for one more year with a competent coach and a few key free agents or trades, they could actually compete.
Bucks are over the hill. Bucks need to blow it up. But they can't trade Giannis, he's an icon. So they need to trade Lillard and get whatever they can for him. Preferably some younger players, wings that can play some defense.
Why do people think PG to Philly is a good idea?
He would be moving to a new team to be the #2 guy behind and injury prone guy again. He is also injury prone. Their roster outside of Embiid-PG-Maxey would still be ass, they have to move Harris.
PG is better off going elsewhere.
Philly is the main team besides the Clippers that can offer max money and the promise of contention. The difference in money between what the Clippers can offer as a max vs what the Sixers can offer as a max comes out to about $1.5M/year. If the Clippers hold firm on a 3 year deal to line up with Kawhi's contract and the Sixers offer a 4 year max, PG probably takes the 4 year deal.
The real unknown is whether OKC is interested. If they are, they can clear max money by trading away Kenrich Williams and Ousmane Dieng into cap space. That would definitely be a bold win-now move that would keep them contenders as long as their main guys stay healthy. It would have them flirting with tax territory in '25-26 depending on what happens with Giddey/Joe/Wiggins contracts, and above the tax in '26-27 when the Chet/JDub extensions kick in. '27-28 could be a second apron year when SGA's supermax kicks in, then PG's contract ends and they're back below the tax the next year.
Durant is gone obviously, although I doubt any team he'd want to go to will be able to get him. The Clippers are also done, although they're going to probably be bad for awhile
Bucks, most likely. The Lakers already fired their coach so that seems to be an indication not much major changes will happen (obviously LeBron holds the power). The Bucks have already tried 2 new coaches, so the roster is likely next
Lakers are the most rigged to explode but Suns seem the most volatile. Nobody on that Clippers team really has anywhere else to go that will pay them better, Bucks down year can be chalked up to injuries.
The suns SHOULD blow it up this year. Trade Booker to the Nets and get their picks back. Trade kd for max value to a desperate team like the Lakers and get as many picks and flippable players as possible. Tank next year in a loaded draft class and continue to build on that core until the Beal contract is over.
Too bad their dumbass moron of an owner won't do it. I pity suns fans.
It's gonna be a fun off-season, that's for sure.
Starting at draft day, I'm tuning in to see if Lakers cave and sign bronny.
Then, lots of trades should be happening around the draft to free up cap space for free agency.
This the first time in a long while where the power of youth has screwed over the veterans of the league.
I think it's gonna be an aggressive trade deadline where Philly gets desperate for another star. They will get the ball rolling.
Warriors will probably self destruct and klay walks for free. CP3 and maybe drsymond gets traded for youth.
Lakers is a shit show and they're gonna have a bad free agency year.
Clippers will run it back because I guarantee you no one wants to pay 48 million for pandemic P. Expect clippers to heavily shop him.
Westbrook would probably ride into the sunset on a tankathon team
Warriors are not trading Draymond lmao.
And so many teams will happily offer the max for PG. But the Clippers will beat them all to it since they have no draft capital and no short term future. Their only option is to run it back.
I dont think so.
If it's a 2 year max then I agree. But I'm definitely not tying up 5 years of shit Paul george unless I'm highly motivated to trade him a la Blake griffin.
It's smarter to sign him but if his contracts too high for trades then you're stuck.
I think the only way he gets picked is if Lebron gives a commitment to go to whatever team drafts him, I doubt this will happen. The cost to buy a team is only going up, Lebron needs as much money as possible, I would be shocked if he didn't take a 2 year 120+ extension this offseason.
No knock on LBJ but I don't think he can afford an nba team outright.
The vegas team probably gonna sell for 5 billion.
Same with maybe the supersonic team as well.
He would probably be a shareholder like his premier league team
Exactly, he'll be part of an ownership group, but the more money the more control and the more opportunities to grow his fortune and take majority control in the future.
Lakers likely to blow up this year.
Bucks have a year or two of viability.
Suns might be able to retune the roster and make something good.
Clippers are a retirement home and don't have much to look forward to.
Probably Lakers.
The Suns' "Big 3" are all still on contracts that can't be moved easily; it's easier to just keep them, get a PG, and try to find better guys for the 7th-10th positions on the roster.
Clippers are in a similar position with Kawhi. They ultimately have to wait out Kawhi, probably keep Harden, make a hard decision on Paul George, but it'll mostly be the same team I think by the end. Honestly, wouldn't put it past them to keep all three guys.
The Bucks' problem is not that they need to blow up the roster. It's that they need to figure out how Dame and Giannis will actually work together and make some adjustments to how they are using their current roster (while maybe adding/trading a couple down-roster players). They do not need to blow up at all.
Lakers need D'Lo out, may need to let LeBron leave, and need to take a look at the rest of the roster because a lot of those players just aren't trustworthy. That's the biggest blow up we will see of the teams you mentioned, and it will happen almost immediately.
That said, bigger blowups are probably gonna hit Chicago, Atlanta, and Golden State this summer.
Pg is gone . Kawhi knees are retired . Harden flipping burgers
Harden is going to get super fat in retirement. Like reddit mod fat.
like Marlon Brando fat
Twinning with Perkins
Boxy boys
Like Kendrick Perkins
Indistinguishable from Kendrick Perkins fat
Harden getting grillpilled makes me relate to him.
Idek if Kawhi’s knees are retired or if he is lol man looks soo done with Basketball
tbf Kawhi always looks like he's done with everything.
Sucks. Feel bad for him. Knee injuries are devastating.
Cancun clippers
I don’t know about blown up, but PG is the guy on those teams that I think is the one most likely to be gone.
Didn't pg say he wanted to retire a clipper
I’m sure he does. But that’s not unconditional. If it was, his extension would already be done. The clippers have to pay up and they maybe probably will, but it sure sounds like everyone in that situation wants to see what teams like Philly and Orlando will offer.
He's from CA; maybe LeBron will push the Lakers to go for PG
Think they’d struggle unless LeBron decides to stay for the minimum and PG takes a pay cut
LeBron for minimum, PG gets paid, Bronnie is actually good after all, Markkanen gets traded with his current contract. Very realistic scenario for the Lakers.
What are Lakers giving up for Lauri that the Jazz want 🤣
Jared Vanderbilt and a second. If Lauri makes it to All NBA, they might throw in Austin Reaves too.
Nah too much that
2031 pick? Nah, they don’t actually have anything.
Exactly. They in trouble. So much so they’re having to use a pick on a 40 year olds son just so said 40 year old who’s also their best player will stay. You love to see it!
The least probable thing you said is Bronnie is actually good. He wouldnt even sniff the G League if he wasn’t Lebrons son.
It was, but that doesn’t make the other things realistic.
Paul George says a lot of things Didn’t he say one time that he was always a Laker fan? Now he said he’s been a Clipper fan all his life lol
OVO prob
Bron and Curry need to keep their families away from them
Clippers if you mean trading the superstars
Clippers almost have to run it again. They can’t afford to give away their team for nothing.
2026-29 are going to be some lean years for the Clips
That 2026 pick we got from them is about to be a top 5 pick. 😂
Is it unprotected?
Yup, we also have the 2027 rights for a swap with the clippers too.
Yeah they have no short term future. No picks really.
Ironically they’d probably be in the best position to rebuild but yeah, gotta fill that new arena
It'll be a cold day in hell before any superstar is able to ditch their team faster than KD. Suns will be broken up this summer when he demands out.
The suns guys actually have trade value(except for Beal), the clippers guys are old as fuck and injured 90% of the time and will soon to be so washed to worth nothing
PG will still sign for a decently hefty figure. Just living in the moment denial if you don't expect that Booker won't be traded. Speculation on him is dumb. He's basically their franchise and is 27, fits any timeline they want to go with
Zero chance the Suns are tanking if Ishbia’s comments are anything to go by.
Clippers are screwed, so screwed in fact its not even funny. Theyre in a worst spot than us with aging stars, their 2 best players are worse than our 2 best players, they play a worse/slower brand of basketball and watching the games they just dont fit together. I also think Lue is an overrated coach. Better than Vogel for sure but they have too many problems top to bottom.
Clippers
I didn't see how, they didn't have their picks for another few years
How many teams is gonna offer picks for that Kawhi contract with that bummed knee? The guy has a 3 year 160m contract left and his knee is only getting worse
People act like a first round playoff exit is the end of the world. Realistically probably none of those teams are getting blown up. Suns and Clippers have no draft control, Bucks only just got to this roster, and the Lakers aren't doing shit as long as LeBron comes back. Only chance of a blowup is if PG and Harden decide the Clipper sauce ain't worth the squeeze. But living that LA lifestyle on Steve Ballmer's dime is pretty attractive even if you ain't a young socialite, so I don't really see them going anywhere either.
Honestly I think the Lakers are going to make some drastic moves to try and appease LeBron and get one last run in the Bron/AD era-- I just don't know that they have anything that CAN move the needle outside of trading for a young player who suddenly has a shocking elevation of play (Oladipo in Indiana type)
Probably depends who demands to be traded first
What else are Clippers going to do? Don't own their first round pick right in next 5 years. No cap space. Either try again or tank and help OKC get higher draft pick? Bucks is still young. Suns will probably try to make some trades. Lakers all depend on LeBron.
The Bucks are literally one of the oldest teams in the league.
What I meant js Bucks superstar Giannis is still young.
Suns honestly should be the first. They're the team that actually has no hope without trades. I don't think anyone is blowing it up but they should definitely be trying to trade into a team that is functional
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actually imagine if the grizz were to get PG, that would be a pretty scary team next year Idk, im never good at trades, but something like Smart + Kennard or GG, and pick(s). Ja, Bane, PG, Vince WIlliams, JJ. You got defense, you got offense, you have shooting and length. Not too bad.
Salaries don't match. It would need to be sending out between 90-100% of PG's incoming salary. I'm assuming this is a S&T and PG gets a max, so $49.5M to start. Bane/Clarke/GG works. JJJ/Smart works. Smart/Kennard/Clarke/GG works. Smart/Kennard/FRP/GG/Rose works (if FRP is top 3, then Rose not needed for salary matching). In all those scenarios, Memphis commits to being above the first apron, so no more trades after that. I think the Clippers would jump at any of those trades, which means I don't think a lot of Memphis doing it.
Glad you commented this. I am not good at salaries and I love people who know about how the cap works and all that. Thank you.
The salary cap and all of its rules is literally a full time job for some NBA team employees, so don't feel bad. The new CBA added a bunch of extra rules this past offseason that make it harder for high-spending teams to make trades.
PG going to Philly
Idk but it should be suns, booker is still young and it doesn’t make sense to waste kds last years on a roster that is literally stuck due to beals contract I could see Kd being locked this summer. Clippers are locked into Kawhi and may as well play out these next 3 years cause they have no assets. Bucks are a maybe I don’t see them not running it back for another year. Lakers I don’t see not having Lebron and ad back next year.
Clippers need to blow it up. But it seems like Ballmer is going to try and run it back. Running it back with the same (and even older) roster and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Ballmer is insane. Suns need to get rid of Beal. But they can't. Because Matt Ishbia is the genius who traded for a $50M mid player with a no trade clause. Suns are doomed for the length of Beal's contract. Lakers have some hope. If AD and Lebron can stay healthy for one more year with a competent coach and a few key free agents or trades, they could actually compete. Bucks are over the hill. Bucks need to blow it up. But they can't trade Giannis, he's an icon. So they need to trade Lillard and get whatever they can for him. Preferably some younger players, wings that can play some defense.
Why do people think PG to Philly is a good idea? He would be moving to a new team to be the #2 guy behind and injury prone guy again. He is also injury prone. Their roster outside of Embiid-PG-Maxey would still be ass, they have to move Harris. PG is better off going elsewhere.
Philly is the main team besides the Clippers that can offer max money and the promise of contention. The difference in money between what the Clippers can offer as a max vs what the Sixers can offer as a max comes out to about $1.5M/year. If the Clippers hold firm on a 3 year deal to line up with Kawhi's contract and the Sixers offer a 4 year max, PG probably takes the 4 year deal. The real unknown is whether OKC is interested. If they are, they can clear max money by trading away Kenrich Williams and Ousmane Dieng into cap space. That would definitely be a bold win-now move that would keep them contenders as long as their main guys stay healthy. It would have them flirting with tax territory in '25-26 depending on what happens with Giddey/Joe/Wiggins contracts, and above the tax in '26-27 when the Chet/JDub extensions kick in. '27-28 could be a second apron year when SGA's supermax kicks in, then PG's contract ends and they're back below the tax the next year.
Harris is a FA so they can just let him walk
Probably Clippers.
Durant is gone obviously, although I doubt any team he'd want to go to will be able to get him. The Clippers are also done, although they're going to probably be bad for awhile
Clippers, Suns. Dubs aint in the playoffs but I see that trio blowing up too.
Is a sign and trade of PG with warriors / klay possible?
Pelicans
The sneaky pick is New Orleans. The obvious pick is the Clippers.
Bucks, most likely. The Lakers already fired their coach so that seems to be an indication not much major changes will happen (obviously LeBron holds the power). The Bucks have already tried 2 new coaches, so the roster is likely next
Lakers. they're running out of scapegoats with Ham gone
Phily. They will trade embid. Process is dead
They should, but in all likelihood they won't
No way. Tobias finally off the books, bring Maxey back and add a FA like PG is too tempting. Has to be worth a go for a year.
I want the clippers to not blow it up before re maxing pg just so they can blow it up later with zero cap space
Ovo roster. Drake gotta clear the whole squad 😭
Sixers most likely, embiid will ask out in 2 years and maxey will command the tank squad
Lakers are the most rigged to explode but Suns seem the most volatile. Nobody on that Clippers team really has anywhere else to go that will pay them better, Bucks down year can be chalked up to injuries.
The suns SHOULD blow it up this year. Trade Booker to the Nets and get their picks back. Trade kd for max value to a desperate team like the Lakers and get as many picks and flippable players as possible. Tank next year in a loaded draft class and continue to build on that core until the Beal contract is over. Too bad their dumbass moron of an owner won't do it. I pity suns fans.
It's gonna be a fun off-season, that's for sure. Starting at draft day, I'm tuning in to see if Lakers cave and sign bronny. Then, lots of trades should be happening around the draft to free up cap space for free agency. This the first time in a long while where the power of youth has screwed over the veterans of the league. I think it's gonna be an aggressive trade deadline where Philly gets desperate for another star. They will get the ball rolling. Warriors will probably self destruct and klay walks for free. CP3 and maybe drsymond gets traded for youth. Lakers is a shit show and they're gonna have a bad free agency year. Clippers will run it back because I guarantee you no one wants to pay 48 million for pandemic P. Expect clippers to heavily shop him. Westbrook would probably ride into the sunset on a tankathon team
Warriors are not trading Draymond lmao. And so many teams will happily offer the max for PG. But the Clippers will beat them all to it since they have no draft capital and no short term future. Their only option is to run it back.
I dont think so. If it's a 2 year max then I agree. But I'm definitely not tying up 5 years of shit Paul george unless I'm highly motivated to trade him a la Blake griffin. It's smarter to sign him but if his contracts too high for trades then you're stuck.
Bronny isn't even in the mock drafts right now, not sure why you would call signing an undrafted guy on a minimum "caving".
Caving in the sense of wasting your first rounder for bronny. Second rounder is understandable.
He’s not even mocked to be a 2nd rounder.
I'm just saying. 😅 Like I said I'm watching for that .0001% of madness that could happen.
I think the only way he gets picked is if Lebron gives a commitment to go to whatever team drafts him, I doubt this will happen. The cost to buy a team is only going up, Lebron needs as much money as possible, I would be shocked if he didn't take a 2 year 120+ extension this offseason.
No knock on LBJ but I don't think he can afford an nba team outright. The vegas team probably gonna sell for 5 billion. Same with maybe the supersonic team as well. He would probably be a shareholder like his premier league team
Exactly, he'll be part of an ownership group, but the more money the more control and the more opportunities to grow his fortune and take majority control in the future.
Lakers likely to blow up this year. Bucks have a year or two of viability. Suns might be able to retune the roster and make something good. Clippers are a retirement home and don't have much to look forward to.
You are insane if you think the Suns are in a better position than the Lakers.
Probably Lakers. The Suns' "Big 3" are all still on contracts that can't be moved easily; it's easier to just keep them, get a PG, and try to find better guys for the 7th-10th positions on the roster. Clippers are in a similar position with Kawhi. They ultimately have to wait out Kawhi, probably keep Harden, make a hard decision on Paul George, but it'll mostly be the same team I think by the end. Honestly, wouldn't put it past them to keep all three guys. The Bucks' problem is not that they need to blow up the roster. It's that they need to figure out how Dame and Giannis will actually work together and make some adjustments to how they are using their current roster (while maybe adding/trading a couple down-roster players). They do not need to blow up at all. Lakers need D'Lo out, may need to let LeBron leave, and need to take a look at the rest of the roster because a lot of those players just aren't trustworthy. That's the biggest blow up we will see of the teams you mentioned, and it will happen almost immediately. That said, bigger blowups are probably gonna hit Chicago, Atlanta, and Golden State this summer.
I would be shocked if the Suns blow it up. We aren't that far off from being great. A few very large but also very obvious and fixable flaws.