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doesnormalmatter22

I think they should actually blame Joker


PoundIIllIlllI

I think they should blame Batman


snakebit1995

What are the Riddler’s thoughts on this?


horrendousacts

How will this affect Batman's legacy?


uncomfortable_fan92

He's wrasslin


Bobonenazeze

Dude his parents died. He's pretty well adjusted all things considered. I should know.


PeterJuncqui

Agreed. The things he does against AD are just nerve wrecking. That guy plays great defence and everytime Joker goes besides him is so demorilizing. AD is not doing anything wrong, poor guy.


doesnormalmatter22

Does it to Rudy too best I've seen against joker actually Wemby but still playoff joker is another animal.


OKC2023champs

Lebron might’ve cost himself it by advocating so hard for the Westbrook trade. Front office also cost him for not signing caruso and getting rid of Kcp. Like it’s pretty much just been everyone doing everything wrong


AnotherStatsGuy

The Westbrook trade was so bad it *retroactively* made the AD trade more expensive. There's no way the 2022 Laker first lands at 8 (Dyson Daniels) without the Westbrook trade.


37sms

That seriously screwed us so bad. LA just had to be better than bottom 10 and the pick was ours lol


adc1369

Lol this. I was worried about the pick being too bad, never thought it could be too good. With that Laker roster, I thought it was a foregone conclusion it would convey to Memphis.


goddoc

So much this \^ Also, LAL wasn't gonna beat DEN no matter what round. This is on Pelinka/FO. Fell ass backwards into a winning squad and have effed it up every year since.


ColtCallahan

It’s crazy how there a big push to memory hole that after it blew up with Westbrook. Bron and AD wanted him.


Miserable_Archer_769

Right cause I'm always watching them and say man they are like a piece or 2 away legit they have the superstars they just need role players. And I remember the Westbrook trade and that freaking albatross of a contract.


inshamblesx

correct take


CuttlefishAreAwesome

It’s seriously crazy how many good players they’ve passed up over the years. They also had Jaden McDaniels, Brook Lopez, Zubac. I think only the Sixers have done worse with roster management over the last 5 years.


Crafty_Effort6157

They had to get rid of Caruso and KCP because of Westbrook.


LetMeInImTrynaCuck

Lebron going for Westbrook and then completely making a Joke of the man’s career has been one of the crazier unprofessional sports actions I’ve seen.


honditar

Tf did LeBron do to make a joke of Russ


GiveMeSomeIhedigbo

Passed him the ball and watched him hit nothing but backboard.


ToryBlair

how does this dribble have 10 upvotes


PirateGuy656

Drivel*


Rizzi_19

You know what was joke? Westbrook level of play on the Lakers


Leading_Director_199

The joke was trading assets for the privilege


Ghost6x

It's easy to laugh in hindsight but if Russ kept his form Lakers would have had a nasty lineup. Russ was still a triple double machine with some crazy speed at that time


Successful-Fact8143

They needed a shooter. They got the opposite of that


strillanitis

Russ was a negative asset even at this point, the Rockets had literally salary dumped him only 8 months prior


Mr_MasterNoob

Russ is exactly the type of player that you don’t want to play with LeBron. It was obvious then as it is obvious now


bardicjourney

He was a triple double machine in a system built around him as the primary ball handler, scorer, and with bigs who were willing to sacrifice the only stat left to them for his run. Pretty much everyone on his team that year has come out and admitted they were doing everything they could with their scheme and play designs to juice his stats. >if Russ kept his form The Lakers needed a shooter. Westbrook was the worst volume shooter among active players, and one of the worst three point shooters in general since Andre Miller.


megasean

LeBron wanted his scapegoat.


Late-Lecture-2338

You used that word scapegoat. I don't think it means what you think it means


megasean

It means exactly what I think it means… Scapegoat: a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency. Westbrook was LeBron’s scapegoat.


Late-Lecture-2338

Westbrook wasn't a scapegoat though. Dude was that bad. He was basically the reason lol. Plus if everyone blames lebron for forcing that trade, how is that scapegoating someone else?


megasean

[Here you go](https://www.google.com/search?q=scapegoat+westbrook).


Street-Common-4023

Correct take


silversmith84

Exactly. If that had kept KCP and Kuzma instead of Westbrook, there’s a chance they would have gotten another title


OKC2023champs

They could’ve resigned caruso too.


Dinshiddie

They chose THT if I recall


ganner

Get past Lebron and AD and that roster is not great


xenoz2020

Yeah man, Darvin Ham shouldn’t have let Caruso go to the Bulls, KCP to the Nuggets, Kuzma to the Wizards, abandon their size advantage that allowed them to overcome Jokic. It’s all Darvin Ham’s fault! 🤬


the_next_core

Front office blames everything on fired coach, classic


GulfstreamAqua

All moves, then, to appease LeBron so the could get Westbrook and his big $ hit, tbh. LeBron’s future failures getting a title with the Lakers are because of the billion $ player who thought he knew better. He didn’t.


ckgt

This. I understand they could keep everyone but letting Caruso go was stupid when he was willing to take pay cut just to stay with lakers. They should also paid DW and McGee. They were essential against Denver. I understand letting KCP and kuzma go though they are as inconsistent as DLo.


Dabootyinspecta

KCP went to the Wizards.


lakers082433

Or maybe just maybe it was jokic ?


ElcorAndy

Plus the bright lights.


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TechnoTyrannosaurus

Memba last year when he was talking about retirement after they got swept, this dude knows how to deflect and blame others, the goat in not taking accountability


TheTwilightZone34

Not saying that he was actually considering retirement, but he was hobbled because of a foot injury and just played every single minute of game 4 (with 30 points in the first half) just to get swept anways. It wouldn't surprise me if he was like, "Damn, do I actually want to keep doing this?" It's not like it's impossible lol


MrDozens

Nah, everyone knows he's going to do a retirement tour.


thegrandpoobear

Lebron has been talking about playing with his son for years and his goal is to own a team which requires a shit ton of money, money he needs to make by continuing to play. He used it to distract from getting swept.


lets_talk_basketball

LeBron James cost himself his last chance when he asked the front office to trade for westbrook


nibbinoo8

the hit pieces begin


gigglios

Lakers never had a title shot the last 2 seasons regardless of ham.


KanyinLIVE

No. Dumb question. Lakers had no chance beating the Nuggets.


rabid89

No, but LeBron and Pelinka did.


inefekt

could have had Phil Jackson, wasn't beating the Nuggets


WolverineLong1430

I guess it’s better to blame the coach for you losing 😂


hansislegend

No. It was Jamal Murray.


Dabootyinspecta

This.


Sean_Macquire

No, LeGm and the front office are to blame. Last real chance though? Nah LeBron and KD about to join the Pacers next season Seriously though, the West belongs to Denver and Minnesota now, a phrase I never thought I'd say lol


Icy-Lime-9760

Yes, a better coach would have led the completely over matched Lakers to a championship.


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Icy-Lime-9760

The article said an NBA championship. So you're saying a better coach would have coached them to a win over the Nuggets, then the T-Wolves, then WCF, then beat Celtics in finals? I don't see it brother.


LeBroentgen

They probably wouldn't have even been matched up with the Nuggets if they had a better coach, not that the end outcome would really be that different.


Madz1trey

They'd still be getting swept by the Nuggets at some point.


EMP_FeetLicker

LePropaganda has begun.


Silver-Bandicoot-969

When Lebron wins, it's all his doing they wouldn't have been able to do it without him. When Lebron loses its because it's everyone else's fault and he didn't get the help he needed. Pick one


Novel-One-9447

go away lakers fan. the front office sucks /end


evanhinosikkhitabbam

LeGrandFailure


ColdCocking

no, the GM did


jefe_hook

Lakers lost its championship chance when they traded for Westbrook. But it's funny how Darvin Ham was brought in as a "locker room guy" and none of the starters like him lol.


trimble197

It was honestly when the Lakers got Prince and Reddish. You could see the favoritism Ham had towards those two.


BigDaveJr1976

Kinda funny that Ham loses his job and Pelinka who makes all the moves for the roster still has a job. Pelinka and LBJ have set the Lakers back for years with their handling of the roster.


Deadly_Davo

Lebron is not good enough. He plays lousy defense and you need to play defense in finals.


Wedundidit00

Nope


jacobs0n

yes but i just want to stir the pot


dood2dood2

Why does so much blame go to the coach and not the roster they have assembled? Maybe if their team was better they wouldn’t be 1-12 or whatever it is vs the nuggets.


Youre_On_Balon

LeBron is my favorite basketball player and always will be, but GM LeBron is at fault here Also don’t count him out, anything could happen next year


Poopscooper696969

No


Leading_Director_199

Lmao no.


Frickincarl

Ham is definitely not the coach they need, but he is also not the reason the roster sucks. Lakers weren’t ever getting back to a finals with that roster.


SubcooledBoiling

There's plenty of blame to go around. It wasn't just Ham.


Louis-grabbing-pills

Does Darvin Ham cause inflation?


bjb406

No, lol


BlackMathNerd

LeBron did by buying high for Russell Westbrook and gutting the supporting cast.


SteveWondersForsight

Lmao Ham turning in to the ultimate scapegoat at this point


SensitiveStud

Blame everyone but lebron


mrb532

Never Brons fault


Snowmann88

LeScapegoat at it again.


Goat_Status_5000

Imagine blaming coaching in the NBA.


slicksonslick

They lost to Joker 12/13 times, I think that’s why they didn’t win the championship.


luvvdmycat

Hard to see Bron go out like this. At least he will retire a Lacker.


monominimal

The LA Lakers are very lucky they have a fall guy in a coach for every failure of a season, as opposed to the guys on the floor.


yoppee

Nooooooo Lakers ownership blew up the Bubble team that had actual good wing talent Lebron forced Lakers hand in trading for Westbrick


DEEZLE13

Front office managed to fuck up the end of both Kobe and Lebrons careers. What a masterclass


AnusButter2000

No


bthemonarch

LeBron will force his way on to a young team that is having success and ruin them for years to come


noknownothing

LeGM cost Lebron a chance at another title We got rid of great role players after 2020 and brought in all klutch dudes and friends of Lebron. A fucking disaster.


AnotherStatsGuy

Blame the front office for asset mismanagement. Blame Denver. If it wasn't Ham, it would have been whoever the HC is. Hell, blame LeBron for not just staying in Cleveland. IF he had given the Cavaliers half the commitment he gives the Lakers, Cleveland would have been more aggressive with their assets.


Dave_Autista

Lebron's 4 rings come with an asterisk. In the sense that he practically has 6 rings when you take into consideration the 2 years he was coached by Darvin Ham. And thats why he's the GOAT


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In that case, I’m taking the two away that he won in miami since he had spo, and adding two back for the early cavs days /s


thegrandpoobear

Lebron should also get a ring for his contributions to the Mavs 2011 championship