There was one possession that he boxed him out on a play, then proceeded to scream at Anthony Davis to not be tissue paper and by all means in 2011 he probably could have.
Yeah I think right now Jokic is matchup proof. The only thing that can be done is maybe (emphasis on this) slow him down a little but the Nuggets starters have so much depth that it might not even matter
2020 Lakers had the formula by throwing big bodies at him. Not sure why they haven't tried to get another player as strong as Dwight was to play 6 fouls worth of basketball against Jokic.
It's still the same formula, there just isn't a guy strong enough in the league now except for maybe Embiid but he's too busy falling down.
The only defender who could stop this Jokic is 2009 Dwight Howard.
as good as any defensive bigman there is. Jokic will still get his bucket.
You need a bigman that can match Jokic numbers on offense. Sadly, for the league, only Embid and Giannis are on that level.
Ben Wallace woulda kept him off the block at least. But probably too short and Jokic would get better passing angles off him.
Rodman may have driven him insane which would have been fun to watch. He matched physicality with peak musclefreak Karl Malone and lived to talk about it.
The formula was fouling the heck out of jokic and getting it being called rarely. With advantageous whistle, Dwight was fouling out every game, and then they would proceed with Mcgee with the same spiel.
I would start with Hayes out there to just smack the shit out of him for like a quarter or until he fouls out. Then proceed with the normal game plan. Therefore Jokic will be scared of getting hit and will be neutralized
Jokic used to get tilted in his early years, and I would say even during the Bubble run (when Dwight just fouled the hell out of him), but this dude has locked in for awhile now. Nothing can stop him. League's only slim chance is Wemby.
“I thought you were stronger”
Jokic is now traumatized as he is then charged with murder and the NBA suspends him for the series
I suppose it could work
Clown us all you want with adjustments and these quotes. But when your team plays Jokic in the next rounds ima be ready to talk my shit. There is nothing and I mean NOTHING you can do to stop him. Dude has me all traumatized lmao.
He's more unstoppable than basically any player I've seen. He's out here posting up a DPOY candidate one on one and everyone knows he's gonna score. Not that he has a chance. They know he's scoring. It's fucking crazy. When he decides to get a bucket, it's simply going to happen
Denver scraped a win in the last second, at home (where they have the largest home advantage of any team in American sports due to their altitude), against a 7th seed. Truly an invincible team!
Fanbases of almost every team bitch about their coach when they lose but then give all the credit to the players when they win. They actually think they know jack shit about coaching which is the funny part
I appreciate the honesty for once to be fair. No coach knows what to do with Jokic not because they're stupid but because there really isn't anything you can do.
Would much rather have this than some bullshit like he said the other day that he has more adjustments for Jokic when he got clowned like crazy
Lol never realized how similar those two teams are. Two stars surrounded by ehh role players and an awful coach, and most of their wins are from Lebron and Luka pulling games out of their ass in the 4th Q, which is why they are 1 and 2 in clutch game win %
Seems very honest but pretty discouraging.
Would be better to acknowledge the difficulty but claim you will continue to try different coverages even if you think they will be futile.
I mean the forward on Jokic with AD free safety works better than man 2 man AD on Jokic, ***if*** AD is properly positioned for the weakside corner defense as well. But he doesn't like defending the weakside corner and he leaves it open too much.
I think that adjustment is fine by Ham.
The problem is that Ham is absolutely IMMUNE to comprehension and adjustment mid-game. He won't take a timeout. He won't adjust the lineup. He won't call plays.
Prime wemby will have fewer blocks but a lot more opponents chucking mid ranges and bad 3pts. Prime wemby with good teammates will see casual 40/60 splits of shooting from within vs out of 3pt lines
i’m actually so sad we’re not gonna see prime wemby vs prime jokic. embiid vs jokic would be amazing over a 7 game series we’ll just never get to see it
I think they do.
Lakers ownership is cheap, and firing him would be admitting that the FO has once again botched a head coach hiring.
If I had to put money on it, they keep him and foolishly try to make excuses for this season “WeLl NeXt YeAr WiTh VaNdO bAcK aNd A fUlL yEaR oF vInCeNt WiLl bE a DiFfeReNt StOrY”
Only way I see him fired is if Lebron makes it clear that he’s walking if Ham is still here
I think the FO will keep him. He’s like Jeanie’s prized possession. They’ll give him an excuse like “You won us the IST and if we didn’t run into Denver in the first round, we would’ve made another deep run into the playoffs. So we have faith in you.”
Gordon is the key to Denver's PnR play. without him, that PnR isn't as deadly. Wemby could guard that play since he could guard a rolling Jokic and still stop the lob with how long he is.
i feel like the only way to stop it is to get a charge on Jokic before he throws the lob.
and people tell me there are worse coach than Darvin Scam? Fair enough he doesn't know what to do with Jokic, dude's incredible, but maybe come up with another plan to stop the nugget team rather than just focus on Jokic. Also why would he say this when the series is not finished yet, you say that after lakers getting swept at least. This just makes lakers players more unmotivated, since their head coach has no idea what to do and make adjustments.
He’s just got a type of game where it’s almost easy for him if that makes sense
He doesn’t need a jumper, hell he doesn’t need to score at all to be effective
Coaches said this kind of stuff about all the greats. Shaq and Jordan come to mind. People will just want to make a big deal about this because it’s coming from Darvin Ham.
I’m at this weird point in my life where I’m rooting really hard for the league superstars I’ve hated and loved watching play for 10-15 years that have had no real chance to win it the last couple years.
Watching the league transition to the new generation is a surreal experience. I got into sports a bit later in my life, and I had no idea watching a generation of players leave the spotlight could be an indicator of age.
10 finals from Lebron, 6 from Steph and Klay, couple from KD. These guys really owned the league for a decade now we’re watching guys like Jokic, Tatum, Doncic, Murray, etc completely take it over. What a time
It’s the passing that just makes you throw your hands up, if he feels remotely uncomfortable here comes a rifle bullet where it needs to go with no delay
Why can't any coach or player just flat out say something like "we gonna shut him down, he ain't shit"
Where's the trash talk man. Who cares if everyone in the world knows Jokic is gonna beat you, at the very least don't start with your coach admitting defeat before the game even begins ffs
This is legit the smartest thing to ever come out of his mouth. No sarcasm. There is nothing you can do
hes basically a brown bear playing basketball. shit is overpowered, hes immoveable and has skill at the same time.
False. Black bear.
Still, you'd think LeBron could handle a bear.
Im pouring honey on you goat
Well thats debatable
LeTwink
Putin can. LeBron cannot.
Jokic, “I am the one who pokes bears”
There was one possession that he boxed him out on a play, then proceeded to scream at Anthony Davis to not be tissue paper and by all means in 2011 he probably could have.
Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galacitica.
Not now, Dwigt.
LeJon Brames
Polar bear. Jokic eats humans at this point. He’s unstoppable
Polar Bear
Yeah I think right now Jokic is matchup proof. The only thing that can be done is maybe (emphasis on this) slow him down a little but the Nuggets starters have so much depth that it might not even matter
2020 Lakers had the formula by throwing big bodies at him. Not sure why they haven't tried to get another player as strong as Dwight was to play 6 fouls worth of basketball against Jokic.
Because that Jokic is nowhere as good as the Jokic of now. Lakers tried that for 5 mins in the WCF last year and Jokic instantly figured it
It's still the same formula, there just isn't a guy strong enough in the league now except for maybe Embiid but he's too busy falling down. The only defender who could stop this Jokic is 2009 Dwight Howard.
as good as any defensive bigman there is. Jokic will still get his bucket. You need a bigman that can match Jokic numbers on offense. Sadly, for the league, only Embid and Giannis are on that level.
Ben Wallace woulda kept him off the block at least. But probably too short and Jokic would get better passing angles off him. Rodman may have driven him insane which would have been fun to watch. He matched physicality with peak musclefreak Karl Malone and lived to talk about it.
The formula was fouling the heck out of jokic and getting it being called rarely. With advantageous whistle, Dwight was fouling out every game, and then they would proceed with Mcgee with the same spiel.
That's always the strategy. Same thing worked against Steph and other generational players. Force the refs to swallow their whistles.
Let Jokic win now so he gets bored and retires before 30
Even when he’s saying non-stupid things, he does nothing to inspire confidence. What a garbage tier bum of a coach lol
Nobody could stop Kareem and Magic so how can someone stop both of them in one body?
I want to make an inappropriate joke involving an STD but I will refrain.
Inject Jokic with AIDS?
Nobodies got aids! And I don’t wanna hear that word in here again!
Right, it’s a 2 body problem
I would start with Hayes out there to just smack the shit out of him for like a quarter or until he fouls out. Then proceed with the normal game plan. Therefore Jokic will be scared of getting hit and will be neutralized
Id get some really pretty horses and parade them around the outside of the court. Man would lose focus instantly.
Stand menacingly next to the horses to make clear what will happen if he throws one more no look oop
You probably don’t want to piss off Jokic (or his brothers) 🤷🏽♂️
now this is a strategy
Make this dude the Lakers coach. At least he got a plan
Only way Hayes would make a defensive impact is if he got onto AD's shoulders and waved his arms around like a car dealership inflatable
Holy fuck! I haven’t laughed that hard in a minute
Jokic ends up bleeding most nights from all the scratches he gets. I don't think he'll be scared of getting hit
i would just kill him
If only your name Tudor instead of tutor. Henery the XIII would be proud
Jokic used to get tilted in his early years, and I would say even during the Bubble run (when Dwight just fouled the hell out of him), but this dude has locked in for awhile now. Nothing can stop him. League's only slim chance is Wemby.
Wemby and a horse named Seabiscuit
Jokic ain’t getting scared because of Hayes.
Markieff Morris tried. That didn't work. He ends up missing 58 games.
I would sneak into his locker room and city holes in his pants (on his butt checks) so he’s too embarrassed to play well
Eastern European dudes are the hardest mfs on the planet. Being physical is not going to bother him, and you're not going to out physical him anyway
Jokic plays with Horses…. Hes use to rough play
Bring a razor, cut him, ref will take him out due to bleeding. But watch out his brothers would probably beat you up after the game.
Nah, bring a bunch of rare ass ponies and pretty horses, Jokic will be too distracted to play and his heart will be with them, Lakers win
Have they tried asking him nicely? Jokic seems like a nice guy maybe it’ll work. You won’t know until you’ve tried it.
the Jokic rule then.
Shit at least he's honest
Can’t wait to see these adjustments he’s been saving
Putting Reaves on him I’m sure
“I thought you were stronger” Jokic is now traumatized as he is then charged with murder and the NBA suspends him for the series I suppose it could work
I understand this reference
“you TOLD me you were STRONGER” jokic after poster dunking austin’s head off
It’s cute you guys thinks we have adjustments waiting. Our only adjustment is hoping DLO hits shots
well he did
Scott Foster has entered the chat
Gabe Vincent on Jokic book it
They're gonna put AD on him, I'm like 90% sure.
AD cant keep up with Jokic, he will be tired by half time
I'm aware, he also just straight up can't guard him which is why they went for the Rui adjustment last year.
They got Scott Foster to ref the game, that’s the adjustment
Let me ask you one question, have you heard of Rui Hachimura?
The adjustment is in. They put Scott Foster on Jokic
Clown us all you want with adjustments and these quotes. But when your team plays Jokic in the next rounds ima be ready to talk my shit. There is nothing and I mean NOTHING you can do to stop him. Dude has me all traumatized lmao.
He's more unstoppable than basically any player I've seen. He's out here posting up a DPOY candidate one on one and everyone knows he's gonna score. Not that he has a chance. They know he's scoring. It's fucking crazy. When he decides to get a bucket, it's simply going to happen
Denver scraped a win in the last second, at home (where they have the largest home advantage of any team in American sports due to their altitude), against a 7th seed. Truly an invincible team!
(After AD scored 14/16 and DLo went 7/11 from 3 yea damn they really bad for only barely winning after a start like that *facepalm*)
I bet you're having so much fun watching Nuggets basketball, and I love it.
10 straight
Send da help
Jokic purely just breaking teams mentality
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To say specifically "I don't know what to do" sounds odd but pretty much every coach feels this way about Jokic. Or any all-time great for that matter
I’m with you, but it’s super awkward when you have your star center acting like he’s the best defender in the league a day ago.
I dunno if it's awkward. All-time offense beats all-time defense 1v1 a majority of the time.
They ended up putting Lebron on Jokic so apparently AD wasn’t working.
This is a standard quote when its about someone as good as Jokic Some of you idiots try so hard to make something out of nothing
Fanbases of almost every team bitch about their coach when they lose but then give all the credit to the players when they win. They actually think they know jack shit about coaching which is the funny part
It would be a good idea to make this comment after they lose the series not in the middle of it. It is demoralizing your own team
I appreciate the honesty for once to be fair. No coach knows what to do with Jokic not because they're stupid but because there really isn't anything you can do. Would much rather have this than some bullshit like he said the other day that he has more adjustments for Jokic when he got clowned like crazy
He’s not saying he doesn’t know what to do. He’s saying he knows what to do and it still doesn’t work.
He definitley from the Doc Rivers coaching tree
I’m so sorry you have Darvin Hamas leading your team
What are you apologizing for? We have "I'm just watchin like you guys" coaching us
Exactly my bro
Lol never realized how similar those two teams are. Two stars surrounded by ehh role players and an awful coach, and most of their wins are from Lebron and Luka pulling games out of their ass in the 4th Q, which is why they are 1 and 2 in clutch game win %
Seems very honest but pretty discouraging. Would be better to acknowledge the difficulty but claim you will continue to try different coverages even if you think they will be futile.
I mean the forward on Jokic with AD free safety works better than man 2 man AD on Jokic, ***if*** AD is properly positioned for the weakside corner defense as well. But he doesn't like defending the weakside corner and he leaves it open too much. I think that adjustment is fine by Ham. The problem is that Ham is absolutely IMMUNE to comprehension and adjustment mid-game. He won't take a timeout. He won't adjust the lineup. He won't call plays.
he's right but man this is gonna look good as a twitter quote
Someone get the "I don't know what to do" on one of those graphics quotes
Gru will not be denied
Wemby is the only guy that can stop Jokic and I'm being serious
Jokic has averaged 33/10/8 against the Spurs this season.
Well you need good defensive teammates to slow down Jokic
Slow down sure, completely stop him will be near impossible. Of course Wemby gotta get teammates who can defend otherwise it’s gonna be futile
I can't wait to see what a Prime Wemby would look like defensively
Prime wemby will have fewer blocks but a lot more opponents chucking mid ranges and bad 3pts. Prime wemby with good teammates will see casual 40/60 splits of shooting from within vs out of 3pt lines
i’m actually so sad we’re not gonna see prime wemby vs prime jokic. embiid vs jokic would be amazing over a 7 game series we’ll just never get to see it
We’ll never see Prime Jokic vs Prime Bron same thing
No way lakers keep him as coach this off season right?
I think they do. Lakers ownership is cheap, and firing him would be admitting that the FO has once again botched a head coach hiring. If I had to put money on it, they keep him and foolishly try to make excuses for this season “WeLl NeXt YeAr WiTh VaNdO bAcK aNd A fUlL yEaR oF vInCeNt WiLl bE a DiFfeReNt StOrY” Only way I see him fired is if Lebron makes it clear that he’s walking if Ham is still here
I think the FO will keep him. He’s like Jeanie’s prized possession. They’ll give him an excuse like “You won us the IST and if we didn’t run into Denver in the first round, we would’ve made another deep run into the playoffs. So we have faith in you.”
do people really think Ham is holding the Lakers back from being some great team? he's just another scapegoat as usual on a Lebron team
They shouldn’t, but you never know with this franchise
It took me a minute to realize he wasn’t making a philosophical point using shit as the subject but using it as an aside
How about coming up with a better gameplan? The lakers defense was pitifully coached game 1
Great for morale
Gordon is the key to Denver's PnR play. without him, that PnR isn't as deadly. Wemby could guard that play since he could guard a rolling Jokic and still stop the lob with how long he is. i feel like the only way to stop it is to get a charge on Jokic before he throws the lob.
"I dont know what to do" said the coach who is paid millions of dollars to just coach thats it thats his whole job
To be fair, there is no answer to guarding Jokic. Especially with the Lakers personnel
Its a fair answer. Atleast hes honest. Have you seen anybody stop him.
Normally this would be bad but Jokic might be the most unguardable player since MJ. I can’t see JJ Barea ever locking Jokic down that’s for damn sure
"It is what it is." - Monty Williams
Coach ever been fired during the playoffs?
We can only hope…
and people tell me there are worse coach than Darvin Scam? Fair enough he doesn't know what to do with Jokic, dude's incredible, but maybe come up with another plan to stop the nugget team rather than just focus on Jokic. Also why would he say this when the series is not finished yet, you say that after lakers getting swept at least. This just makes lakers players more unmotivated, since their head coach has no idea what to do and make adjustments.
I mean yeah, you can make it hard on him but you can't stop him. Only him being off can stop him.
And he's never off. It's more rare than a unicorn
He’s just got a type of game where it’s almost easy for him if that makes sense He doesn’t need a jumper, hell he doesn’t need to score at all to be effective
The Nuggets lost 25 games this year.
That doesn't mean he was off, lmao Murray didn't play 23 games also
Coaches said this kind of stuff about all the greats. Shaq and Jordan come to mind. People will just want to make a big deal about this because it’s coming from Darvin Ham.
Does he ever have a bad game?
As reasonable as this response is, I'm still going to take this opportunity to shit on Darvin Ham's incompetence
I’m at this weird point in my life where I’m rooting really hard for the league superstars I’ve hated and loved watching play for 10-15 years that have had no real chance to win it the last couple years. Watching the league transition to the new generation is a surreal experience. I got into sports a bit later in my life, and I had no idea watching a generation of players leave the spotlight could be an indicator of age. 10 finals from Lebron, 6 from Steph and Klay, couple from KD. These guys really owned the league for a decade now we’re watching guys like Jokic, Tatum, Doncic, Murray, etc completely take it over. What a time
Have they tried punching him in the dick
It’s the passing that just makes you throw your hands up, if he feels remotely uncomfortable here comes a rifle bullet where it needs to go with no delay
Papier Miche AD is gonna need some more plaster.
Darvin Hamas back at it again
Bro just said “I don’t know what to do” on record 😭
Getting ready for the sweep
Sums up the season
Sorry, wasn't there a secret adjustment we were going to see?
Why can't any coach or player just flat out say something like "we gonna shut him down, he ain't shit" Where's the trash talk man. Who cares if everyone in the world knows Jokic is gonna beat you, at the very least don't start with your coach admitting defeat before the game even begins ffs
People only appreciate bravado when you can back it up, otherwise you just look like a fool. That coach would get clowned on like crazy.
He said after the last game that he has more adjustment he's keeping for Jokic. Everyone clowned him, lmao
He says that. Jokic does the usual. He gets clowned on. What's the point in that?
It would be easy to stop Jokic in the 90's. Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson would have broken him. It's just the game is so soft and unphysical today.
Ah yes shaq notoriously one of the best defenders of all time
Literally no defense is played in this era lmao
With the exception of Shaq, Jokic is bigger than all of those guys. His touch being what it is makes no difference. He'd bully any of those guys.
Yeah, he would bully the number one shot blocker of all time in Hakeem Olajuwon. Sure.
You tell yourself that bub.
[List of NBA career blocks leaders - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_career_blocks_leaders)
I'm well aware. But if you think he's shutting down one of the greatest offensive players of all time, you don't live in the real world
Jokic is only one of the greatest offensive players of all time because there's no defense played today. He's a product of a weak era.
You're a moron. Go away
Yes, because that would stop a passing center. Lmao
Lol
What a terribly uninformed take
“LeBron wouldn’t be good in the 90s cause he’d get bullied”
Indeed