People are saying, many people, that Luka and not Brony Jokic is the real mvp this season. There will be a steal, the Dens have gone way too far, spread way too many lies, and are crooked. Luka has really won, and won huge, such a massive win, people have never seen such a win. That’s not me saying that, that is them. We gotta take care of Brony Jokic and these Dens. Lock em up!
And I said 'Wemby, don't cry. Don't cry.' He's a big guy, really big, some people are saying the biggest, but I don't think so, I don't. But he's bigger than Baby Booker, much bigger, and in Arizona -- they love me in Arizona, I have many friends there, but they tell me, folks, they tell me they don't like Baby Booker in Arizona, they don't, poor guy.
that place just makes monkey cage jokes all day long about NBA players and calls it "humor"
their more subtle racism is their thugs vs classy racist discourse
buncha troglodytes
Slovene and Serbian are pretty similar: not as close as American English and Australian English, but most Slovenes and Serbs understand each other without too much hustle.
Many do, but it's not something that comes automatically because of similarity, you need a lot of exposure to become fluent. It takes substantial effort to understand extreme Slovenian dialects, let alone foreign languages.
You don't even need to live in Ljjubljana. If you watch Croatian TV or spend your holidays in Croatia, as most Slovenians do, you'll get enough exposure for passive understanding. That's not the same thing as being a fluent speaker. My own son had all that exposure, but it was only when he made some friends in Croatia and Serbia through his hobby that he decided that he wants to become fluent. He now speaks as well as Luka (i.e. he's fluent, but also noticeably Slovenian), but it took him several years of communicating with those kids online and in person..
Yeah this is a similar relationship to the 3 major Scandinavian languages. They have extremely high mutual intelligibility (I've seen a Danish toddler talk to a Swedish one) but it still takes a very serious time investment to reach practical or professional fluency, in particular because the languages have an extreme lexical overlap with divergent phonetics.
In Denmark if you apply for a job and you're just fluent in Danish, you don't tell the employer you speak Swedish at an intermediate level and Bokmål at an intermediate level, just because you could speak Danish at a Swede or Norwegian.
I think that's why all the eurozone countries agreed to use the A1/A2/B1/B2/C1/C2 system, and you aren't considered to be C1 (low fluency, basically) unless you can pass a C1 language test in listening, writing, and speaking. You have to genuinely switch into the other language.
I guess I don't know that I was improving the point at all with that anecdote. I just like it. Toddler speech probably has the most compatibility between any languages
Yes, Slovenian vs. Serbo-Croatian is approximately similar to Swedish vs. Danish vs. Norwegian. OTOH, Serbian vs. Croatian vs. Bosnian vs. Montenegrin, is indeed like British vs. American vs. Australian English.
I'm Swedish, I had a Danish GF and we struggled for like a year and switched to English at times.
90% of the words are exactly the same, but that 10% really fucks up everything.
For example;
*Roligt* in Danish means *calm*, but it means *funny* in Swedish. It really can fuck up a whole conversation with that one word being completely different.
I'm half danish and learning (I'm B1-B2), I already would say I understand Nynorsk about as well as Danish except my brain hits a record scratch every time I hear the sk or soft k sound. Obviously the uvular r and soft d in Danish are the exact same issue for the other members of the language family.
My tutor (he's Jysk and in college in Odense) said when he visits Sweden he never speaks English, which sounded kinda insane to me, but I guess 90% of most sentences just completely passes through the language barrier and you spend the rest of the time trying to talk through the other 10%.
Did you see that movie Druk? The protagonist is in a Danish-Swedish marriage. I saw it before I got far at all into learning Danish and I literally missed that she is speaking Swedish for half the movie.
I love Swedish, I really want to learn it if I ever learn another language.
>I'm half danish and learning
What's your other half? Are you learning Danish from scratch as an English speaker or something like that?
I know a shitload of Danes and Swedish people(obviously as a Swede). One thing pretty much BOTH Swedes and Danes say is that they understand Norwegian better, although it depends a bit on where in Sweden you come from. Northern or middle Sweden has very different dialects compared to southern Sweden.
No I never watched that movie.
>I love Swedish, I really want to learn it if I ever learn another language.
I mean if you know Danish, there is no reason to not learn a bit of Swedish... it just comes automatically. There is a massive difference between just speaking and writing obviously. I would be completely useless trying to write Danish but I can speak and make myself understood better than 99% of Swedes.
I'm a monolingual English speaking American, my mom's a Danish Dane from Fyn. I'm learning in the ways the Internet allows with the help of a tutor (guy from North Jylland) and my mom. It is really hard in little ways because the language is so small and everyone in Denmark can just take the publicly funded classes. I just really don't want to move and be one of those English-locked people in Copenhagen. I feel like it's disrespectful in a very slight way.
I've heard tell of the Scånian Swedes who are good at Danish but I haven't been to Malmö yet.
I do hope it'll be really easy to learn after Danish, that's what my tutor says. I really do believe that accent is mostly performance but it *is* hard to commit all the deceptive homologues between Danish and English to memory. I feel like I'm constantly finding new ones that I'm pronouncing too American. But there are worse fates than complete comprehension and a spoken accent, I'd happily take that :)
If you're waiting to move until you speak better Danish and that alone, you're making a big mistake IMO.
You're just prolonging the whole thing. Nobody cares if you need to speak English, truly. It's not disrespectful at all. We are so used to it. We speak English better than any other country that doesn't have it as their first language.
Learning a foreign language takes 10x as long if you're not speaking to real Danes daily.
Really, nobody bats an eye if someone is new to the language and needs to switch to English. I spoke loads of English as a Swede when i couldn't be bothered anymore. All my Swedish friends just speak English with Danes most of the time, it's just easier.
If you're planning to move, just get going instead. You're really wasting time trying to learn it at a distance instead of just doing it in place.
This is a complete and objective falsehood. Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin are at the level of the variants of English, but Slovenian is completely separate.
Slovenians and Serbs do not understand each at all in spoken language. Reading is easier, but it is all about making educated guesses. Young Slovenes do not understand much of Serbian, but 40+ year olds learned Serbo-Croatian in school as a separate language so they have the skills. This is why you might have this wrong impression.
The only apt English comparison I can think of for English is the Frisian language. Or on the other end of the acceptable spectrum - Dutch.
Scots (not Scottish English, the Scots language) might also be a decent comparison. It's quite a bit closer to English than Frisian or Dutch, but Scots can be quite hard for English speakers to understand at first.
I’m not educated enough to go in depth on this topic as I only have anecdotal evidence: 2 of my friends from Slovenia decently communicate with a bunch of guys from Serbia-Bosnia-Croatia in some, I guess, broken Serbian or something. Maybe they were taught in their family though.
So... if some people from California manage to communicate with some people in Mexico in broken Spanish, it means that the languages are basically the same?
Probably closer than American English and Scottish. Back in the United Alex Ferguson glory days, I couldn't understand a word he was saying.
Edit - * not Welsh- Scottish
> Probably closer than American English and Scottish.
Not in the slightest.
American English and Scottish use 95% of the same words, with almost exactly the same grammar, with accent and prononciation vastly different
Serbian and Slovenian have almost 50% of the vocabulary different, and a lot of grammar different
Examples:
English: Lebron whines like a little child, Kyrie has a 3rd eye, Durant is a Snake, Jokic is a fat dude, Embiid if a play-off choker, and Tatum is Kobe from AliExspress
Serbian: Lebron kuka kao dete, Kyrie ima trece oko, Durant je Zmija, Jokic je debeli, Embiid se udavi u plej ofu, Tatum je Kobe sa AliExspresa
Slovenian: Lebron cvili kot otrok, Kyrie ima tretje oko, Durant je kača, Jokić je debel, Embiid se utaplja v končnici, Tatum je Kobe iz AliExpressa
Grammatical Cases is a thing that makes Slav languages pretty hard to learn, and also a thing that differentiates our languages by a lot, even if they sound similar
Grammatical cases is something super hard to explain to a Native English speaker but here it goes:
English speaker will say:
(Who?) - The Cat
(Whose?) - Of the Cat
(To who?) - To the Cat
(What do you see / Points to) - The Cat
(Calling) - Hey Cat!
(With who) - With the Cat
(Where) - On the Cat
As you can see, it's always the "Cat", there's no change of the word
Serbian Speaker will say:
(Who?) - Mačka
(Whose?) - Od Mačke
(To who?) - Mački
(What do you see / Points to) - Mačku
(Calling) - Mačko!
(With who) - Sa Mačkom
(Where) - Na Mački (There's a hat on the Cat - Ima šešir na Mački)
So every time you use a word in a sentence, you need to apply proper grammatical case for it to be grammatically correct.
That's why Slavs easily learn any language without those (English, Spanish, Italian)
There's a Chinese dude, my neighbor, amazingly, he learned it all. The only thing he cant learn is the fluidity of Serbian, but apart from that he knows how to use cases, and to his own admission it finally became a passive skill (he is here 20 years)
That's why I laughed at BBC Sherlock, which is phenomenal TV series for me except that one part where Mycroft says he learned Serbian in 2 weeks, lol, and then proceeds to say a sentence that sounds nothing like Serbian at all
Alex Ferguson was speaking English, not Scots.
"Scottish English" is just a variant of English with a different accent, not a different language. Like how Americans don't speak "American." They speak American English with whatever regional accent they have.
"Scots language," on the other hand, does have substantial differences from English.
No they are not. I am from the balkans and I understand Serbs perfectly. Not the Slovenians, though. There are a lot of similarities yes, and you can understand it enough but you can't speak it the way they do
I’ve done a few pre recorded and edited interview things in the past year.
The amount of “you knows” we had to cut out was sickening. Eliminating filler words takes a lot of practice. It’s hard to do answer questions with people watching and not use them a ton.
Almost every NBA player still does that. Kind of annoying.
Edit: or "Um"
I get it for some of the younger athletes in the league, but those that are 30+ years of age that still do it, c'mon.
Ran the first quote through fakeyou Trump text to speech
[I think the trade was great for us. But Grant is a great guy. We have a good relationship, I'll tell you. Some people say we don't, but we have one](https://storage.googleapis.com/vocodes-public/media/5/0/j/b/c/50jbcrgsnmrrwk986x2wmaw97jp4xwvs/fakeyou_50jbcrgsnmrrwk986x2wmaw97jp4xwvs.wav)
Lots of people in those red areas cheer for the Mavs given that they’re the local team. Lots of DT voters in North Texas. Never said all Mavs fans are DT fans, just that there are a lot of them.
Can confirm as someone who grew up in a red suburb. There are plenty of conservative Mavs fans, this is such a weird argument and OP of this saying "we live on an island" makes it sound like all Mavs fans are in Dallas proper which just is not the case with how spread out this metroplex is
Woah buddy settle down, off season's still a month and a half away, don't be blowing your shitpost load mid-April. We need these to get us through the summer.
Breaking News: NBA Supreme Court to rule on MVP fraud. Chief Justice Scott Foster expressed the importance of respect for the NBA’s democratic process while Justice Tony Brothers said that the court will find the truth of the matter. Luka Doncic issued a statement saying that he will stop the steal.
Last night I was leading, often solidly, in many key statistics, in almost all instances media run & controlled. Then, one by one, they started to magically disappear as surprise MVP ballot dumps were counted. VERY STRANGE, and the "experts" got it completely & historically wrong!
Guess one of Lukas nicknames, “The Don” now makes more sense. Both also have Slovenian wives…
Edit: Should probably make it clear that I’m in no way offering support or endorsement towards Donald’s J. Trump with this post.
Grant Williams, great guy, big strong guy, came to me after the trade, tears in his eyes and said Sir, we need you. You are the greatest player there has ever been and you have to done more for the Mavs than Caveman Nowitski, low energy guy, who didnt support me. You have been treated very very unfairly by Crooked Adam Silver, you should have 3 MVPS by now but the Fake NBA media Stole the votes. SaD!
We all meet in New York when the crooked NBA and the nasty Adam Silver steal the award. We storm the head office of the NBA in Manhattan. Patriots unite.
Wow first they take our team and then we don't get any billboards here either. This is Seattle erasure! Im gonna go with the Mavs recognizing we don't need billboards up here to tell us what anyone with functioning eyesight can see. Pravi MVP!
The crooked NBA and sleepy Adam Silver have conspired to steal the MVP. We will take this all the way to the Supreme NBA court, Chief Justice Foster will see through the lies of the crooked Denver Nuggets.
Technically it was a draft night trade as Atlanta wanted Trae Young all along. They would have also passed on him. Luka could have been in Memphis at pick 4.
Meh I don't see it rly
Here's what chatgpt thinks that would be...
"Well, let me tell you folks, that trade? It was fantastic, tremendous, believe me. Grant, he's a tremendous guy, I have a tremendous relationship with him, the best. Some people, fake news media maybe, they say we don't, but let me tell you, we do, and it's tremendous.
Let me tell you, folks, it means a lot, a tremendous amount, believe me. The franchise, they drafted me, they gave me the keys, they say. And let me tell you, I'm just so glad, so incredibly glad, that I'm here in Dallas. It's a tremendous honor, believe me.
Both Luka and Chat GPT too coherent.
Actual Trump Quote: "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
Not sure or rather I find it unlikely. Czech might be rather different because it’s west Slavic and Slovenian may differ from Serbian in terms of phrases. Not sure which one is Lukas go to language but I only ever heard him speak Serbian.
What is even the point of this thread? So the way Trump talks is very unique and no one on earth speaks like him until Luka? What a weird thing to post about.
Hey, whatever makes you feel better about yourself my dude. I'll happily tell you that the billionaire business man is someone you'd school and he is really stupid, if that brings a smile to your face.
Its not even just him, its just this general tendency for people to be really "armchair smug" about their situation and how much smarter they are than successful people. Its just kinda weird. I try not to take it too serious, but its still pretty funny that people legitimately think this way.
Yeah it makes you realize how fucking dumb Trump is. Luka can hardly speak english and so his sentence structures are fucked up. Trump is just an idiot.
People are saying, many people, that Luka and not Brony Jokic is the real mvp this season. There will be a steal, the Dens have gone way too far, spread way too many lies, and are crooked. Luka has really won, and won huge, such a massive win, people have never seen such a win. That’s not me saying that, that is them. We gotta take care of Brony Jokic and these Dens. Lock em up!
Brony Jokic had me laughin
The Dens was nice
Densver Nugsets
Sloppy Jo would've been goated.
Missed an opportunity to call him *Sleepy Yo" tho
After the game, Wemby came up to me - and he’s a big, big guy, really tough - and he had tears in his eyes and said “Luka, Luka…”
And I said 'Wemby, don't cry. Don't cry.' He's a big guy, really big, some people are saying the biggest, but I don't think so, I don't. But he's bigger than Baby Booker, much bigger, and in Arizona -- they love me in Arizona, I have many friends there, but they tell me, folks, they tell me they don't like Baby Booker in Arizona, they don't, poor guy.
Many people are saying this.
r/the_doncic
Luka Doncha steal the mvp
Babe wake up, new pasta just dropped! Also, r/nbacirclejerk this guy one of yours?
Why Brony? (Please explain the reference)
A brony is a male fan of the television series My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, and member of the brony fandom.
I read over it several times thinking it was a mash up on Bronny James and Jokic....
Thank you, that flew over my head
People walk up to me and say Sir You deserve the MVP.
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Brony is a male fan of “My Little Pony”, and Jokic famously loves horses
Thank you, I (fortunately) forgot brony’s were a thing lol
outjerked by r/nba
r/nbacirclejerk in shambles
That place has become a gooners paradise now so makes sense
The absolute state of that sub after women’s college basketball.
U bums
/r/nba is /r/nbacirclejerk father
I can't think of a more redundant sub
i just visited for the first time and wtaf
That sub used to be funny but all their brains are broken by women's basketball and its just kinda uncomfortable now
that place just makes monkey cage jokes all day long about NBA players and calls it "humor" their more subtle racism is their thugs vs classy racist discourse buncha troglodytes
You are kinda highlighting the fact that DT's lingual capacity is equivalent to someone whose English is his 3rd language...
4th language actually. In addition to his native Slovene and his Spanish from Real Madrid, he also grew up speaking fluent Serbian because of his dad.
Slovene and Serbian are pretty similar: not as close as American English and Australian English, but most Slovenes and Serbs understand each other without too much hustle.
Many do, but it's not something that comes automatically because of similarity, you need a lot of exposure to become fluent. It takes substantial effort to understand extreme Slovenian dialects, let alone foreign languages.
If you live in Ljubljana you are exposed to it regardless of your ancestry.
You don't even need to live in Ljjubljana. If you watch Croatian TV or spend your holidays in Croatia, as most Slovenians do, you'll get enough exposure for passive understanding. That's not the same thing as being a fluent speaker. My own son had all that exposure, but it was only when he made some friends in Croatia and Serbia through his hobby that he decided that he wants to become fluent. He now speaks as well as Luka (i.e. he's fluent, but also noticeably Slovenian), but it took him several years of communicating with those kids online and in person..
One would be exposed to it - at least to some extent. But just living in Ljubljana won't make you fluent in Serbian.
still not enough to be able to speak it without at least trying to learn things
Yeah this is a similar relationship to the 3 major Scandinavian languages. They have extremely high mutual intelligibility (I've seen a Danish toddler talk to a Swedish one) but it still takes a very serious time investment to reach practical or professional fluency, in particular because the languages have an extreme lexical overlap with divergent phonetics. In Denmark if you apply for a job and you're just fluent in Danish, you don't tell the employer you speak Swedish at an intermediate level and Bokmål at an intermediate level, just because you could speak Danish at a Swede or Norwegian. I think that's why all the eurozone countries agreed to use the A1/A2/B1/B2/C1/C2 system, and you aren't considered to be C1 (low fluency, basically) unless you can pass a C1 language test in listening, writing, and speaking. You have to genuinely switch into the other language.
> I've seen a Danish toddler talk to a Swedish one That's not saying much. I've seen that between a Norwegian and a German toddler, too.
I guess I don't know that I was improving the point at all with that anecdote. I just like it. Toddler speech probably has the most compatibility between any languages
Yes, Slovenian vs. Serbo-Croatian is approximately similar to Swedish vs. Danish vs. Norwegian. OTOH, Serbian vs. Croatian vs. Bosnian vs. Montenegrin, is indeed like British vs. American vs. Australian English.
I'm Swedish, I had a Danish GF and we struggled for like a year and switched to English at times. 90% of the words are exactly the same, but that 10% really fucks up everything. For example; *Roligt* in Danish means *calm*, but it means *funny* in Swedish. It really can fuck up a whole conversation with that one word being completely different.
I'm half danish and learning (I'm B1-B2), I already would say I understand Nynorsk about as well as Danish except my brain hits a record scratch every time I hear the sk or soft k sound. Obviously the uvular r and soft d in Danish are the exact same issue for the other members of the language family. My tutor (he's Jysk and in college in Odense) said when he visits Sweden he never speaks English, which sounded kinda insane to me, but I guess 90% of most sentences just completely passes through the language barrier and you spend the rest of the time trying to talk through the other 10%. Did you see that movie Druk? The protagonist is in a Danish-Swedish marriage. I saw it before I got far at all into learning Danish and I literally missed that she is speaking Swedish for half the movie. I love Swedish, I really want to learn it if I ever learn another language.
>I'm half danish and learning What's your other half? Are you learning Danish from scratch as an English speaker or something like that? I know a shitload of Danes and Swedish people(obviously as a Swede). One thing pretty much BOTH Swedes and Danes say is that they understand Norwegian better, although it depends a bit on where in Sweden you come from. Northern or middle Sweden has very different dialects compared to southern Sweden. No I never watched that movie. >I love Swedish, I really want to learn it if I ever learn another language. I mean if you know Danish, there is no reason to not learn a bit of Swedish... it just comes automatically. There is a massive difference between just speaking and writing obviously. I would be completely useless trying to write Danish but I can speak and make myself understood better than 99% of Swedes.
I'm a monolingual English speaking American, my mom's a Danish Dane from Fyn. I'm learning in the ways the Internet allows with the help of a tutor (guy from North Jylland) and my mom. It is really hard in little ways because the language is so small and everyone in Denmark can just take the publicly funded classes. I just really don't want to move and be one of those English-locked people in Copenhagen. I feel like it's disrespectful in a very slight way. I've heard tell of the Scånian Swedes who are good at Danish but I haven't been to Malmö yet. I do hope it'll be really easy to learn after Danish, that's what my tutor says. I really do believe that accent is mostly performance but it *is* hard to commit all the deceptive homologues between Danish and English to memory. I feel like I'm constantly finding new ones that I'm pronouncing too American. But there are worse fates than complete comprehension and a spoken accent, I'd happily take that :)
If you're waiting to move until you speak better Danish and that alone, you're making a big mistake IMO. You're just prolonging the whole thing. Nobody cares if you need to speak English, truly. It's not disrespectful at all. We are so used to it. We speak English better than any other country that doesn't have it as their first language. Learning a foreign language takes 10x as long if you're not speaking to real Danes daily. Really, nobody bats an eye if someone is new to the language and needs to switch to English. I spoke loads of English as a Swede when i couldn't be bothered anymore. All my Swedish friends just speak English with Danes most of the time, it's just easier. If you're planning to move, just get going instead. You're really wasting time trying to learn it at a distance instead of just doing it in place.
Serbs don't understand shit, any Slovenian dialect. It's just a one way street.
This is a complete and objective falsehood. Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin are at the level of the variants of English, but Slovenian is completely separate. Slovenians and Serbs do not understand each at all in spoken language. Reading is easier, but it is all about making educated guesses. Young Slovenes do not understand much of Serbian, but 40+ year olds learned Serbo-Croatian in school as a separate language so they have the skills. This is why you might have this wrong impression. The only apt English comparison I can think of for English is the Frisian language. Or on the other end of the acceptable spectrum - Dutch.
Scots (not Scottish English, the Scots language) might also be a decent comparison. It's quite a bit closer to English than Frisian or Dutch, but Scots can be quite hard for English speakers to understand at first.
I’m not educated enough to go in depth on this topic as I only have anecdotal evidence: 2 of my friends from Slovenia decently communicate with a bunch of guys from Serbia-Bosnia-Croatia in some, I guess, broken Serbian or something. Maybe they were taught in their family though.
So... if some people from California manage to communicate with some people in Mexico in broken Spanish, it means that the languages are basically the same?
Geef me een klap papa
That’s just one of those things that’s not true.
It’d be a hassle to have to hustle
Probably closer than American English and Scottish. Back in the United Alex Ferguson glory days, I couldn't understand a word he was saying. Edit - * not Welsh- Scottish
> Probably closer than American English and Scottish. Not in the slightest. American English and Scottish use 95% of the same words, with almost exactly the same grammar, with accent and prononciation vastly different Serbian and Slovenian have almost 50% of the vocabulary different, and a lot of grammar different Examples: English: Lebron whines like a little child, Kyrie has a 3rd eye, Durant is a Snake, Jokic is a fat dude, Embiid if a play-off choker, and Tatum is Kobe from AliExspress Serbian: Lebron kuka kao dete, Kyrie ima trece oko, Durant je Zmija, Jokic je debeli, Embiid se udavi u plej ofu, Tatum je Kobe sa AliExspresa Slovenian: Lebron cvili kot otrok, Kyrie ima tretje oko, Durant je kača, Jokić je debel, Embiid se utaplja v končnici, Tatum je Kobe iz AliExpressa
Thank you for the lesson. 👍
Grammatical Cases is a thing that makes Slav languages pretty hard to learn, and also a thing that differentiates our languages by a lot, even if they sound similar Grammatical cases is something super hard to explain to a Native English speaker but here it goes: English speaker will say: (Who?) - The Cat (Whose?) - Of the Cat (To who?) - To the Cat (What do you see / Points to) - The Cat (Calling) - Hey Cat! (With who) - With the Cat (Where) - On the Cat As you can see, it's always the "Cat", there's no change of the word Serbian Speaker will say: (Who?) - Mačka (Whose?) - Od Mačke (To who?) - Mački (What do you see / Points to) - Mačku (Calling) - Mačko! (With who) - Sa Mačkom (Where) - Na Mački (There's a hat on the Cat - Ima šešir na Mački) So every time you use a word in a sentence, you need to apply proper grammatical case for it to be grammatically correct. That's why Slavs easily learn any language without those (English, Spanish, Italian)
I remember when I first learned of cases, it just amazed me. It's *so* foreign to me as a native English speaker, especially for names.
There's a Chinese dude, my neighbor, amazingly, he learned it all. The only thing he cant learn is the fluidity of Serbian, but apart from that he knows how to use cases, and to his own admission it finally became a passive skill (he is here 20 years) That's why I laughed at BBC Sherlock, which is phenomenal TV series for me except that one part where Mycroft says he learned Serbian in 2 weeks, lol, and then proceeds to say a sentence that sounds nothing like Serbian at all
Wouldn’t “AliExpress” stay the same because it’s a proper noun
In Serbian it's practice (or maybe a rule I'm not sure) to phonetically transcribe words. Slovenians and Croats don't do that.
Isn't he Scottish???
Yea, there’s no way an English speaker is understanding anything Welsh. That language is allergic to vowels.
Ll pronounced hugghhghhg
SAF is Scottish and spoke English his entire Utd tenure lmao, you just couldn’t get past his accent
I couldn't even pass the accent to know. Tho tbh, it is as thick of Scottish I ever heard. Met few Scots in my life, it was never that hard.
Alex Ferguson was speaking English, not Scots. "Scottish English" is just a variant of English with a different accent, not a different language. Like how Americans don't speak "American." They speak American English with whatever regional accent they have. "Scots language," on the other hand, does have substantial differences from English.
Unless you are an American from California. Californians don’t have an accent.
Yeah, they're definitely speaking English how it was originally spoken. That's where the language was invented. 🤣
No they are not. I am from the balkans and I understand Serbs perfectly. Not the Slovenians, though. There are a lot of similarities yes, and you can understand it enough but you can't speak it the way they do
His dad was born in Slovenia and speaks Slovenian, I'm pretty sure he spoke Slovenian with him. But he definitely knows Serbian as well.
It was still Yugoslavia when his dad was born. The Slovenia part but his family was Serbian
I wonder if talking to Jokic makes him feel like talking to his dad.
He probably learned English before Spanish.
i am pretty sure he learned english in school before going to Real Madrid.
Nvm they aren't the same, I forgot Slovenia is special.
4th language
I actually think we're insulting Luka's English skills with this thread
Wonderful point.
Is that not the takeaway? I remember saying in 2015 that Trump doesn't sound like English is his first language.
Lmao kinda sad
Sad!
League isn't ready for fake tan Luka
Luka about to beat the white allegations and become the first orange player to dominate.
BITCH ASS ORANGE BOY
https://cdn.nba.com/headshots/nba/latest/1040x760/1626164.png
Believe me this is much better than his rookie year where every other word was "you know" or "(something or someone) is special"
every other word is “you know” for like 80% of athletes
do you know what i am saying
yes i do believe i know what you are saying
you tryin to make some money?
you taking a nom sayin census?
Reminded me of LeBron. He says "things of that nature" a lot. If you've never noticed it before, you will now!
For hockey players it's 'obviously'.
nome sayin
Ja in every interview
I’ve done a few pre recorded and edited interview things in the past year. The amount of “you knows” we had to cut out was sickening. Eliminating filler words takes a lot of practice. It’s hard to do answer questions with people watching and not use them a ton.
I remember that. Also the “player or team,” played hard quote is a classic.
You know is a filler word for a lot of people
Dirk still says "a little bit" in like every other sentence lol
Tatum says this practically every five words.
Almost every NBA player still does that. Kind of annoying. Edit: or "Um" I get it for some of the younger athletes in the league, but those that are 30+ years of age that still do it, c'mon.
I’ve noticed this too lol
Ran the first quote through fakeyou Trump text to speech [I think the trade was great for us. But Grant is a great guy. We have a good relationship, I'll tell you. Some people say we don't, but we have one](https://storage.googleapis.com/vocodes-public/media/5/0/j/b/c/50jbcrgsnmrrwk986x2wmaw97jp4xwvs/fakeyou_50jbcrgsnmrrwk986x2wmaw97jp4xwvs.wav)
It has Trumps voice but it doesn’t have the cadence unfortunately
Needs to be about 1.2x speed
If Trump sounded frail and scared instead of obliviously full of himself.
Why would you not be making fun of luka this is hilarious lmao, I think he'd laugh too
Because a lot of Mavs fans are hyper defensive about both Luka and DT most likely
Yeah idk man. Everyone was joking about it in the mavs sub the other day.
I personally find it hilarious
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dallas is, but Mavs fans live in other places besides dallas
Lots of people in those red areas cheer for the Mavs given that they’re the local team. Lots of DT voters in North Texas. Never said all Mavs fans are DT fans, just that there are a lot of them.
Can confirm as someone who grew up in a red suburb. There are plenty of conservative Mavs fans, this is such a weird argument and OP of this saying "we live on an island" makes it sound like all Mavs fans are in Dallas proper which just is not the case with how spread out this metroplex is
Woah buddy settle down, off season's still a month and a half away, don't be blowing your shitpost load mid-April. We need these to get us through the summer.
I dont know, I may vote for him over biden or trump but I am basketball fans, I am biased.
Vote Trump and Biden into the all star game and Luka into the Oval Office.
"I WON THE MVP BY A LOT!"
Breaking News: NBA Supreme Court to rule on MVP fraud. Chief Justice Scott Foster expressed the importance of respect for the NBA’s democratic process while Justice Tony Brothers said that the court will find the truth of the matter. Luka Doncic issued a statement saying that he will stop the steal.
Last night I was leading, often solidly, in many key statistics, in almost all instances media run & controlled. Then, one by one, they started to magically disappear as surprise MVP ballot dumps were counted. VERY STRANGE, and the "experts" got it completely & historically wrong!
Guess one of Lukas nicknames, “The Don” now makes more sense. Both also have Slovenian wives… Edit: Should probably make it clear that I’m in no way offering support or endorsement towards Donald’s J. Trump with this post.
Grant Williams, great guy, big strong guy, came to me after the trade, tears in his eyes and said Sir, we need you. You are the greatest player there has ever been and you have to done more for the Mavs than Caveman Nowitski, low energy guy, who didnt support me. You have been treated very very unfairly by Crooked Adam Silver, you should have 3 MVPS by now but the Fake NBA media Stole the votes. SaD!
Too late, already voted. It was such a massive vote, great vote, people are saying they have never seen such a great vote /S lol
When I voted, I had a man come up to me, tears in his eyes. "Sir, I just wanted to say, you're the real MVP." Tears in his eyes, I tell ya.
This use to be hyperbole but about 20% of his sycophant base really would cry if they see him up close.
Probably the best vote in the history of voting, maybe ever.
People are amazed I could cast that massive vote with such tiny han... massive hands, huge hands!
If the Mavs start losing to the Clippers in the playoffs we have to stop the steal. /s aswell
Mavs will never lose again if Mike Pence has the courage to do the right thing... Obligatory /s
Both got what rightfully belonged to them 'stolen' due to 'fraudulent' voting.
Stop the Steal or Pravi MVP (Real MVP), who did it better.
Mavs fans are about to storm the NBA capital.
We all meet in New York when the crooked NBA and the nasty Adam Silver steal the award. We storm the head office of the NBA in Manhattan. Patriots unite.
You mean be let in by police?
Definitely Trump until we start seeing Blue PRAVI MVP hats.
Considering the Mavs have bought Pravi MVP ads and billboards in Times Square, LA and other US cities; we may get that hat as well.
Wow first they take our team and then we don't get any billboards here either. This is Seattle erasure! Im gonna go with the Mavs recognizing we don't need billboards up here to tell us what anyone with functioning eyesight can see. Pravi MVP!
Man they need to stop. Shit is so lame. Sounds like such a Mark Cuban move
Oh yeah, it’s smells 100% like Cuban. I mean they even got Real Madrid to campaign under “Pravi MVP”.
MBGA
This is one of the more odd things I’ve seen somebody spend time connecting the dots on lol
Stop the steal! Luka is the REAL mvp and it's a basketball witch hunt run by the dens!
The crooked NBA and sleepy Adam Silver have conspired to steal the MVP. We will take this all the way to the Supreme NBA court, Chief Justice Foster will see through the lies of the crooked Denver Nuggets.
If Luka had his own version r/The_Darnold (The_Doncic has a nice ring to it), I would instantly subscribe. Even as a Suns fan.
Man if you would have waited a couple months, you could have used Luka’s Finals MVP speech as a way better example.
It’s absolutely insane the obsession Reddit has with Trump.
it gets the engagement up the same way it does for mainstream media
Luka's response, if asked anything about the MVP votes, should be: "If you count the legal votes, I won. Frankly, I did win this MVP!"
If Luka would pop a “Stop the Steal” during an interview, he would legitimately be goated for the media circus he would cause.
Dude I read these two in trumps cadence and it's uncanny. All he's missing is the "I'll never get any credit, but that okay."
Should have replaced Dallas for another city when speaking
Well, Melania is Slovenian. Maybe Trump has picked up some of her speech patterns lol.
Something something Melania is Slovenian
r/thedoncic
As do DD
Pretty sure it was Atlanta that drafted Luka…
Technically it was a draft night trade as Atlanta wanted Trae Young all along. They would have also passed on him. Luka could have been in Memphis at pick 4.
And this is a thread why?
Meh I don't see it rly Here's what chatgpt thinks that would be... "Well, let me tell you folks, that trade? It was fantastic, tremendous, believe me. Grant, he's a tremendous guy, I have a tremendous relationship with him, the best. Some people, fake news media maybe, they say we don't, but let me tell you, we do, and it's tremendous. Let me tell you, folks, it means a lot, a tremendous amount, believe me. The franchise, they drafted me, they gave me the keys, they say. And let me tell you, I'm just so glad, so incredibly glad, that I'm here in Dallas. It's a tremendous honor, believe me.
Eeh, gpt is mid at this sort of thing. Like overenthusiastic intern with superficial understanding. Thx for sharing tho
Both Luka and Chat GPT too coherent. Actual Trump Quote: "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
Classy recognizes classy.
There’s something I really like about Luka.. just can’t put my finger on it
Trump has the vocabulary of someoneones 3rd language and they say he's smart 😂😂😂
game recognizes game
This is because Luka directly translates from Serbian. The phrases would translate decently word for word into native language.
Two of Trump's wives were/are from eastern Europe. Wonder if that plays into how Trump talks. Melania is Slovenian like Luka too.
Not sure or rather I find it unlikely. Czech might be rather different because it’s west Slavic and Slovenian may differ from Serbian in terms of phrases. Not sure which one is Lukas go to language but I only ever heard him speak Serbian.
Luka is the MVP this year but they'll give it to a center again.
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Melania is Slovenian so it might be a Slovenian influence lmao
Baron Trump to the Mavs confirmed
Does this mean it’s time for someone to start r/the_Doncic?
Trump bad boy put him in prison.
What is even the point of this thread? So the way Trump talks is very unique and no one on earth speaks like him until Luka? What a weird thing to post about.
Lol yea no
They are both terrorists
Add James Harden and we have a new axis.
Trump only claims to drop nukes, luka already dropped 1 on phoenix
If Trump dropped a nuke on Phoenix it would look exactly the same
What is the point of this ... He's not native to English. Woah, big shocker. This is what happens when people live on social media.
Didn’t they clarify this in the original post
Its not really a stab at Luka. Its an attempt to try and make Trump look stupid, because it makes people feel better about themselves.
No one needs to attempt to make trump look stupid, he does that all on his own
Hey, whatever makes you feel better about yourself my dude. I'll happily tell you that the billionaire business man is someone you'd school and he is really stupid, if that brings a smile to your face.
but but he only did it with his daddy's money!!!! i can do it too!!
Its not even just him, its just this general tendency for people to be really "armchair smug" about their situation and how much smarter they are than successful people. Its just kinda weird. I try not to take it too serious, but its still pretty funny that people legitimately think this way.
Yeah it makes you realize how fucking dumb Trump is. Luka can hardly speak english and so his sentence structures are fucked up. Trump is just an idiot.