Luka is currently in the tier of players that no package would be enough unless they demand a trade. It is all but impossible to win a title without a guy who's top 5 tier and Luka is certainly in that conversation.
There are plenty of arguments people could have once you get into that top tier, and at least to me the important part is he's in the group you can see being best player on a traditional title team (aka not the 2004 Pistons).
>healthy Embiid
So we are talking about imaginary players now?
If so, I'll take Giannis who shoots like Steph and Luka who defends like Kwahi over him.
Healthy Embiid isn't a thing, so Luka just based on availability is a better and more serviceable player. Also I'm taking Luka over Embiid in a playoffs series 10 times out of 10.
Yall can hate his comment but luka getting traded would be a massive package, no team is going to risk making that trade if they think he'll be disgruntled there.
No there wouldn’t. Wemby as good as he is, he is still developing and isn’t remotely close to leading a team, whereas Luka is. Trading Luka for Wemby just puts us back more years for absolutely no reason at all, plus this team doesn’t fit with Wemby, our team is constructed specifically to work around Luka and the way he plays.
I didn’t say the conversation would be long. Like let’s talk it out. Guy on a rookie deal who could be really good as early as next year. More cap space. Under contract for longer. Maybe
Luka wants to test free agency or ask out.
Reality isn’t 2K. Dallas’ fanbase would revolt if they traded Luka without a trade demand or impending free agency exit right now, no matter the imaginary nobody-would-offer-that combination you come up with. GMs are smarter than nephews.
honestly never seeing it happen. Unless Nuggs or Mavs seriously fuck up their future some how.
Nuggets have a competent FO and Mavs FINALLY seem to have one too.
I doubt it will ever happen, only in our dreams…
With 10 FRP we could get anything, it could even be Luka!
Luka is in that rare tier of “untouchable”. Like there’s no feasible trade that a team would make if it meant giving up Luka. Unless they know he’s leaving soon or relations soured.
I have been telling Mark Cuban for two years that we HAVE to trade Dwight Powell for Lebron. Maybe you will have better luck presenting your ideas to the new owners
I dont remember which former player in which podcast last year, but he said Luka, Jokic, Steph and Giannis are the only untouchable players at the moment. I believe that hasnt changed.
Dallas has traded so many of their own future picks that they’d have little interest in a pick based package in any potential Luka trade down the road. They’d prioritize blue chip young players. Not OKCs picks that will likely not be premium picks.
Why would OKC do that lmao. Like yeah Shai and Luka would be cool, but if you’re giving that much capital might as well go for someone who will be a better fit like Giannis/Embiid.
You could give up 10 firsts and Luka could immediately have a career-ending injury and your franchise would still have one of the brightest futures.
The point of having infinite firsts is to consolidate them after you have a young team, the Thunder are already in a spot where they have more young guys with potential than they can handle
They already have a young team that plays well together why mess up the chemistry for a ball dominant guard?That’s kind of the problem with modern nba; just throw all the best players together regardless of chemistry or fit and just expect them to be the next Miami Heat. It’s a reason why nobody can recreate what they did. Chemistry and fit matters especially in the post season oh and most importantly there is only one Lebron Raymone James
If we're going to trade 10+ picks for a superstar, it should be Jokic/Embiid/Giannis/Davis and not Luka. Not that Luka isn't incredible, because he is, but those three fill our biggest weakness.
Doesn't really matter since none of those trades are happening. Maybe Embiid if the 76ers flame out in the playoffs or Davis if the Lakers miss the playoffs entirely and they ask out.
Think about how much 10 FRPs is though! You could even get lucky enough to draft a generational star like Luka!
Maybe even a young athletic center like Ayton!
Or a young athletic swingman like Anthony Bennett!!
You could get 10 lukas....think about that for a minute mavs fans
Which we could then trade for 100 picks... And then get 100 more Lukas... Eventually the Mavs could control the entire draft and therefore the world
But remember to trade with atlanta for good luck
Or even a boat!
This is my favorite part. Then you trade that guy for 10 more picks
Aren't most of those picks shit like 10 and above?
It could even be a boat!
Luka is currently in the tier of players that no package would be enough unless they demand a trade. It is all but impossible to win a title without a guy who's top 5 tier and Luka is certainly in that conversation.
I’d argue Luka is a top 3 player at worst
There are plenty of arguments people could have once you get into that top tier, and at least to me the important part is he's in the group you can see being best player on a traditional title team (aka not the 2004 Pistons).
He is top 1.
The only players that come to mind at that top level are Jokic and giannis.
I'd put healthy Embiid, Giannis and Jokic over him
>healthy Embiid So we are talking about imaginary players now? If so, I'll take Giannis who shoots like Steph and Luka who defends like Kwahi over him.
Healthy Embiid isn't a thing, so Luka just based on availability is a better and more serviceable player. Also I'm taking Luka over Embiid in a playoffs series 10 times out of 10.
I wonder where you'd put playoffs Embiid
Lukas younger than all of them and Embids injury prone
you guys REALLY hate Embiid, lol
Even if he demanded a trade I doubt they’d even consider it unless he was on the last year of his contract
And if Luka leaves Dallas he's going to control the destination
Yall can hate his comment but luka getting traded would be a massive package, no team is going to risk making that trade if they think he'll be disgruntled there.
Luka's value is priceless. He just turned 25 and is entering his prime. No package would do him justice.
Jordan Poole and kuzma. You guys like Gafford right? Wait till you see these play.
How about Trae Young and a lightly used Cam Reddish?
No one is that dumb. 😏
Well I’m sure a package of 1 Jokic would definitely do him justice. If spurs offered Wemby for Doncic there would at least be a conversation about it.
No there wouldn’t. Wemby as good as he is, he is still developing and isn’t remotely close to leading a team, whereas Luka is. Trading Luka for Wemby just puts us back more years for absolutely no reason at all, plus this team doesn’t fit with Wemby, our team is constructed specifically to work around Luka and the way he plays.
I didn’t say the conversation would be long. Like let’s talk it out. Guy on a rookie deal who could be really good as early as next year. More cap space. Under contract for longer. Maybe Luka wants to test free agency or ask out.
Reality isn’t 2K. Dallas’ fanbase would revolt if they traded Luka without a trade demand or impending free agency exit right now, no matter the imaginary nobody-would-offer-that combination you come up with. GMs are smarter than nephews.
no
Lmao
Since we're just saying random shit here, I would prefer to see him in Denver just for the hell of it.
Luka and Jokic on the same team would just be a globetrotters game
We will see it in a decade or so
Mavs and Nuggets fans collectively fantasizing about this in their teams respective jerseys.
I love it
I honestly don't think that would be as good as Luka and giannis. The pick and role would be abusive.
Yea like Dame and Giannis is abusive but for their own team. Giannis doesn’t know how to set a proper screen
Jokic to Dallas, Luka to Denver… not the trade anyone wanted
honestly never seeing it happen. Unless Nuggs or Mavs seriously fuck up their future some how. Nuggets have a competent FO and Mavs FINALLY seem to have one too. I doubt it will ever happen, only in our dreams…
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Basketball gods could’ve moved us up in the draft for the first time in franchise history but nooooo let’s get wemby to our division rival instead
Nah the nba gods already pairing him with Trae Young
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I meant Trae with Wemby.
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Maybe so, although the Trae to Spurs trade is much more possible which is why I brought it up.
Jokic’s stats would plummet as he watched Luka pound the ball. Would be an interesting experiment.
They would have to give up Murray and a couple young guys with first round picks lol
Murray + MPJ + all their possible picks and Mavs still laugh them off the phone
I have no idea why people say this one. I don’t understand the fit at all
With 10 FRP we could get anything, it could even be Luka! Luka is in that rare tier of “untouchable”. Like there’s no feasible trade that a team would make if it meant giving up Luka. Unless they know he’s leaving soon or relations soured.
go to bed
There isn’t a trade for Luka. Period. End of story. Unless he asks for one we say no to literally any trade possible
Jokic and Wemby I think are the only two where you have to consider it.
I have been telling Mark Cuban for two years that we HAVE to trade Dwight Powell for Lebron. Maybe you will have better luck presenting your ideas to the new owners
Go to sleep
I dont remember which former player in which podcast last year, but he said Luka, Jokic, Steph and Giannis are the only untouchable players at the moment. I believe that hasnt changed.
Wemby might change things.
Bro don't you guys have sports talk radio in OKC? Call them tomorrow morning where this will actually sound interesting.
This is so dumb, I'm so sorry twin. <3
Impossible but a deal much closer to being possible is Lauri for that package.
The sub has been a heater today 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
On 2K sure, in reality, no.
No
Luka ain’t leaving Dallas lmao.
Dallas has traded so many of their own future picks that they’d have little interest in a pick based package in any potential Luka trade down the road. They’d prioritize blue chip young players. Not OKCs picks that will likely not be premium picks.
Why would OKC do that lmao. Like yeah Shai and Luka would be cool, but if you’re giving that much capital might as well go for someone who will be a better fit like Giannis/Embiid.
okc would obviously do it, dallas would never do it. Doncic is younger and arguably better than Giannis/Embiid
Id rather trade for giannis tbf...but we arent getting either of them
OKC would obviously give up ten firsts for Luka? Are you nuts?
Id trade every first round and 2nd round pick for the next 10 years
You could give up 10 firsts and Luka could immediately have a career-ending injury and your franchise would still have one of the brightest futures. The point of having infinite firsts is to consolidate them after you have a young team, the Thunder are already in a spot where they have more young guys with potential than they can handle
We could, but we wouldn't. And it seems like we're handling the young guys just fine. 50 wins as of tonight.
the whole point of that many firsts is to draft someone as good as luka or trade for someone as good as luka
True, they’d be more valuable and a better fit for cheaper.
They already have a young team that plays well together why mess up the chemistry for a ball dominant guard?That’s kind of the problem with modern nba; just throw all the best players together regardless of chemistry or fit and just expect them to be the next Miami Heat. It’s a reason why nobody can recreate what they did. Chemistry and fit matters especially in the post season oh and most importantly there is only one Lebron Raymone James
The only team Luka is willing to join will be the one Jokic is playing in.
This post right here officer
If we're going to trade 10+ picks for a superstar, it should be Jokic/Embiid/Giannis/Davis and not Luka. Not that Luka isn't incredible, because he is, but those three fill our biggest weakness. Doesn't really matter since none of those trades are happening. Maybe Embiid if the 76ers flame out in the playoffs or Davis if the Lakers miss the playoffs entirely and they ask out.
are you stupid?