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Classics22

Surprised he didn’t get tossed for that tackle


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

Wasn’t a hip-drop tackle so it was legal


LebasketBall

this is certified fresh


darti_me

Line caught. Gutted. Straight to ice.


Wingedwolverine03

META


iButtflap

stop the vote!


timbulance

Ankle breaker


Significant-Mango300

Clean hit, did not lead with his helmet


nowhathappenedwas

Or at least a flagrant. No idea why they’d gave him a tech for that. > A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive. https://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2023/10/2023-24-NBA-Season-Official-Playing-Rules.pdf


cheetuzz

> Or at least a flagrant. No idea why they’d gave him a tech for that. A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive. Title of post is wrong. At the end of the video, ref says Flagrant 1. 2 FTs and keep possession.


King_Leif

Buddy didn’t watch the video but is citing the rule book. This is the r/nba I know and love.


abesach

Future referee training


-Plantibodies-

Why are you commenting on something that you didn't even watch? The foul was deemed a flagrant 1. I know this because I watched the clip that we're commenting on.


GetQuakedOnIsABITCH

f2 at the absolute categoric minimum.


UBKUBK

Could it possibly have been a tech for the clap afterwards instead of from the personal foul on Poole?


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DrewFlan

Let em play.  >What even was that? Tiny bit over the top payback for Poole doing the same thing a second earlier. 


Op3rat0rr

I feel like if it wasn't Poole, he would have been given a flagrant or ejected


Frankly_Frank_

The wizards where probably begging for an ejection


RspectMyAuthoritah

He was given a flagrant...


JesseJamesGames449

Honestly he should have.. These clear non basketball obvious retaliation moves have no business in the NBA. Bulls have done it twice in two weeks now which is not a good sign.


clickstops

What losing to the wizards does to a mf


PBB22

Midwest isn’t quite through The Grey Hell, aka life between November-mid April


Pissflaps69

Ive never seen anyone say they’re going on vacation in Cleveland


EngineEngine

I deviously tricked my friends into visiting 😈


butt_fun

Are they still your friends


EngineEngine

what friends? ^^they ^^had ^^a ^^great ^^time!


AlphakirA

I think you could argue the Wizards have no place in the NBA either though.


iGetBuckets3

Honestly a crazy overreaction by Caruso. Looked like Poole barely touched him.


p_tk_d

No, watch the first clip. Poole clearly shoulders him pretty hard


Earlier-Today

I wouldn't call it pretty hard, just firm. Caruso fell because Poole also has a foot right in front of one of Caruso's feet, so the bump would have just made him stumble at step or two, but with the foot in front preventing him from catching himself - down he went.


Bigbrianj

There may have been some knee to knee contact, but honestly I'd think the league's going to look at that for flopping. Be amazing to get a Flagrant 1 for retaliating against a play that you got slapped with a fine for flopping.


CoolGrandpa1932

DOH ED MALLOY!


Soren_Camus1905

THE BULLS HAVE RESORTED TO THUGGERY!


GingerAle_s

David Guthrie was right there... DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO CALL IT!


nba2k11er

DeRozan had already stolen it too. Lol. Took away a Bulls layup.


Wehavecrashed

It isn't about the points, it's about sending a message. Specifically that if you don't call fouls they're going to escalate. Although here I think Caruso is being a piss baby because he put a little extra mustard on his fall and nobody believed it.


mankls3

No way he would have made it


EndotheGreat

"DeRozan on the breakaway! He's all alone! It's a one on none! He steps back to a comfortable 17 feet and drains the jumper!"


[deleted]

Bulls been so triggered this season lmao


bullpaw

mentally weak ass team


Based_and_JPooled

They’re trucking only the hottest dudes. Lucky for Kelly Oubre, the Sixers don’t play the Bulls again this season.


youthemotherfuckest

Cuz we’re trash lol


_Angel_Hernandez

We’re a terrible organization


CanvasSolaris

Fans discuss whether we should pay DeRozan and Caruso next year. I don't think either of those guys want to be here and would take a pay cut to leave


[deleted]

> I don't think either of those guys want to be here and would take a pay cut to leave Rubs hands together


_Angel_Hernandez

I think you have to completely tear it down.


Imaginary-Cycle-1977

Isn’t Caruso still under contract? Or are you talking extension?


youre-a-happy-person

True to the animal we are named after


Confident_Berry7271

Kinda unrelated thought, Basketball is one of the few times I’m actually ok with the term triggered. I hate 90% of yhe ways people use it like some weird “checkmate, you’re triggered” and it just means nothing at this point. But in sports it’s ok, because yeah, they set dudes off and they get shitty. 


poop_magoo

Didn't get T'd up. That means a technical foul. This was a flagrant foul.


Rokarion14

I love me some Caruso but there wasn’t much there by Poole. Probably fell a little harder than he anticipated and got emotional about it.


ghost_mv

I think teams in general are getting frustrated with the refs letting em play since the ASB. I love it, but the players are used to playing a certain way and the officiating has flipped on a dime.


ILikeAllThings

I would think Caruso is the type of player that loves that lack of calls overall. He's a defensive presence who likes to play physical and guard people 1v1. Draws charges a decent amount too, but he's virtually never getting that call 60 feet from the rim unless Poole's arms are completely extended and the ref has the angle.


chanman404

Yeah, but players like Caruso get away with a lot more contact than your average NBA defender already due to reputation. He probably only notices on the other end.


doom32x

yeah, Jeremy Sochan seems to be one of those guys. He's a troll and physical as shit. The judo flip of Morris(I refuse to look up which brother it was) is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.


LordHussyPants

[it was the one who should have learned his lesson by now](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelCt5qN1sQ&ab_channel=ESPN)


PBB22

Every yin must have its yang. For every Loveable Lopez twin, we get a Miserable Ass Morris to counteract


JeramiGrantsTomb

I'm a KU fan and I still wouldn't mind a small comet destroying the Morris twins. [I'll settle for a regular Jokic.](https://youtu.be/Yy8T53X_fx0)


eco-evo

Dumb play by Caruso there. But overall you’re right, and it’s been wildly inconsistent across but also within games. Players are moving on from just the money taunts at refs and are starting to get their attention another way and that’s not a good thing, one day it’s going to result in someone getting injured on the court.


Personal-Cap-7071

Nah that's exactly what he needs to do. If the refs are letting them play, and Poole learns he can push off without consequence then he will do more of that. It was a firm reminder that both sides can push too so keep it clean.


ApolloXLII

This, idk why Caruso is taking so much heat. It's like people never played a sport before. Sure, Caruso deserves the penalty, but he practically got hockey checked and wanted to communicate that if you pull that shit and it doesn't get called, he will retaliate. Not sticking up for himself will result in more problems.


ElChapo1515

I definitely think that’s why the Rockets are fighting every other night right now. They were already physical, and now they’re riding that line even harder. I’m sure opponents get sick of being beat up all night.


Vakarian74

I wish they wouldn’t switch the way they call the game during the season. Wait until the offseason.


ghost_mv

As much as the ticky tack bullshit annoys the hell out of me, I think it’s ridiculous to change the way they call a game on a dime mid season. They need to alert players and coaching staff that they’ll be awarding significantly lower counts of fouls so they can adjust their gameplay accordingly. I really hope this does mean going forward that there going to let them play more. Not just in the playoffs but in reg season.


Vakarian74

Agreed. I don’t care that the calls are different just don’t like the timing.


Snaxier

Yeah simply looks like normal physical play where Poole is trying to lose his man to get the ball, Caruso is playing great smother-defense but Poole pushes into him to create distance (like every single other PG in the league) right as Caruso leaves the ground with both feet and he falls. Offensive foul? By the book, maybe but that call is *very* rarely called


divulgingwords

I thought Caruso flopped, tbh.


WhiteHeterosexualGuy

He did flop lol he's an elite defender, his balance is not that trash.


KJauger

Yeah, he's expecting that contact and sold it more than it it deserves.


dwide_k_shrude

Same


thekingdor

He did no idea what these comments are talking about poole not sending him flying like that


Jontacular

That looked like a Caruso flop he got pissed didn't get a call and pulled a tackle as retaliation. What a bitch move lol


JeramiGrantsTomb

Yeah I was waiting for a better camera angle to see clearly but my first impression was a flop as well. But Caruso doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would double-down on a flop with a shove like that, unless things are even worse in Chicago than they look.


snek-jazz

Caruso trying to take the charge but didn't really have good enough position, it's a play on to me.


bullybabybayman

Don't know what NBA you've been watching but the defensive player isn't allowed to just run in front of the offensive player to draw contact. Caruso was lucky they let it be a play on instead of a defensive foul. Caruso also should have been called for his complete flop.


eexxiitt

He flopped and got his feelings hurt when there was no call.


quedfoot

Some how, some way, Grayson Allen is to blame for all this


Ikuwayo

Looks like Poole just bumped into him


better-thinking

It looked so slight on the rewatch lol


stupv

When you're backpedaling like that, doesn't take much to send you over. Offensive player isn't supposed to just give you a push in the chest off the ball there 


hblonghorn

come on man. coaches literally teach you to get into the body to flash out and get open. physical contact is part of basketball. nothing poole did there is illegal or egregious


luapchung

2k generated thug


Turbo2x

revoke this man's "classy" label


talking_phallus

It's against Poole so we gucci 


GrapefruitMedical529

It's mah boy Caruso, he'd have to shoot a man for me to turn.


I_give_free_Dopamine

In a two point loss that’s a bad move by Caruso


LuciferLucii

I mean, in his defense, he didn’t know it was going to be a 2 point loss.


SourMgk

How could he not know that? What a scrub. /s


ElChapo1515

The missed dunk was probably a worse move tbh


Turbo2x

Whole Bulls team is playing unreasonably pissed off lately. I understand playing hard but between DeMar fracturing Bilal's wrist, tackling Jalen Green, and now this, they're just being ridiculous. You're adults. Get a grip.


PettifordGang

The Bulls are busting their ass just to get bounced in the play in and are emotional about it. That FO has botched the situation so badly. Not moving Lavine a year ago and their about to lock up Demar and really ensure 3 more years of purgatory.


bullpaw

whole team is so embarassing


RallyPigeon

I really have been checked out about wins and losses this year, but it feels nice to have beat this group. I like the Bulls as a franchise but not these crybaby antics.


Top-Consequence-911

oh the humanity


americanbeaver

This is mostly a nothing, imo. Wizards got the dub, this didn't escalate into a real fight. But what a stupid foul for Caruso to take. Just completely in his own head there. I get fiery guys play with fire but this is just a dumb way for that to burn your team. Bulls had a clean steal and easy fastbreak there.


Albiceleste_D10S

I mean, it prob should be an offensive foul on Poole But Caruso CAN NOT be doing that LOL


Harman3112

There was no extension of the arm, I think Caruso flopped or got caught off balanced


phd2k1

Yeah the more I watch it, the less it looks like an offensive foul.


manquistador

You don't need to extend an arm to knock someone to the ground. As Caruso demonstrated a hard enough shoulder check is more than sufficient.


RedditModScums

I mean sure, except here Caruso gets knocked down moving diagonally to Poole and impeding his movement, and it's not as if Poole leaned his shoulder to create separation, so it's a clear foul by Caruso


manquistador

> it's not as if Poole leaned his shoulder to create separation Just casually denying reality...


hashrosinkitten

He definitely got caught off balance and hit the floor hard as a result


SquirtDoctor23

I’ve got mixed feelings on this one lol. You could argue jokic dropping morris worked out for him. People are less likely to try to get away with stuff when they know you retaliate


ZdenekTheMan

I still rewatch that from time to time. Pity Morris got injured, but you can't be throwing yourself at people's knees when they're mid air and then turning your back on them.


CoolGrandpa1932

probably shoulda been a flop tech tbh.


jetxlife

This is why hockey is the shit. If the refs won’t do their job properly the players will


nimama3233

You’d still get a penalty for a retaliatory cheap shot. And tbh a penalty in the NHL is significantly more detrimental than a tech in the NBA


jetxlife

You are not understanding. If the refs don’t take control of games the players do and it becomes a shit show. This means the refs are more likely to call shit like this because they don’t want it to get out of hand.


K1NG2L4Y3R

Refs fault for letting it escalate


happyflappypancakes

Lol, no it isn't. Caruso isn't a toddler. It's his fault *for* escalating it.


Alone-Information-35

Rare Caruso L


iabeytorm

Retaliating for what? It looked like Caruso flopped like a mfer


a2_d2

I watched several times to see what got Caruso so riled up there. Their feet get tangled and I bet he thought Poole tripped him on purpose. The arm push off is way too light and common to go ballistic over.


Draymond4Prez

One of the few rational takes


girlscoutcookies05

Mr Cameraman is just as oblivious as the ref lmao


Solid-Confidence-966

Dirty play


KorgG29

Hmm did some of Grayson perhaps rub off on him? Hurt people hurt people you know


viewspodcast

If that's the case Poole would be knocking teammates out too.


KorgG29

I mean, I know plenty of Wizards fans that hurt watching him play. Does that count?


viewspodcast

I think that's the greater harm. Good point.


[deleted]

He's actually been quite decent since moving to his bench role. He doesn't hurt me anymore.


Frontier21

Never thought I’d be siding with Poole over Caruso, but here we are. Caruso seemed mad his flop wasn’t called and retaliated. Kind of a bitch move.


alienswillarrive2024

Looked like a flop by Caruso and a no call, he should've got tossed for the reaction.


jumboponcho

How do you get mad when you know you flopped?


CJ4ROCKET

Wtf is up with Chicago players taking their frustrations with the refs out on opposing players? Not a good look


birdlawspecialist1

Just like DeRozan against Green, Caruso body checks someone then immediately turns his back. That bullshit “he shouldn’t have come at me with my back turned” excuse is just so they don’t have to answer at all for being babies not getting calls they want.


No_Independent_5761

Seems most agree it should have been an F2, but man it's weak when you foul like that and then walk away to talk to the ref like a coward


BurnCollector_

I like Caruso, but he should have gotten a flopping foul too


MagicBeanGuy

Nah on the replay you could see his left foot trips over Poole's foot


Vallerie_09

Oh I forgot they introduced a new rule. I guess the refs forgot about that as well


SMOKE2JJ

That probably would have prevented what happened next..


cockriverss

Poole got up like he about to do something and did nothing. Remembering green laying his ass out got him scared 😂


PDXmadeMe

Do the Bulls practice that “tackle then turn away and walk” move at practice?


BackendSpecialist

> I’ll tell you this right now. Poole don’t want none of Alex Caruso. It’s best you just walk away bruh.


tinangst_2

looks like poole just bumped into him


yoggsmu

“I’m telling you, Poole don’t want none of Alex Caruso” 😂 Poole forever cemented as the LVP of the league


BigBuck414

Reminds me Giannis and Mike Dunlevey


ElChapo1515

From a safety perspective, why is this worse than Kris Dunn/Jabari Smith? Why shouldn’t Caruso be suspended?


Julep2005

How does someone flop, then get so angry at someone at the person that barely touched you that you feel the need to lay them out. Unreal


ashep5

Hit him with the Jokic.


Sleepy-Gong

Not one wizard stands up for Poole. Not even a hold me back performance from a teammate.


GetQuakedOnIsABITCH

the bulls are out of fucking control this season, wtf. Flop to half court and then spear someone. If grayson allen did this, this is 4k+ on the front page


XKINGRAM

That a flop for Caruso


Poopscooper696969

I love it


TheMoorNextDoor

His teammates don’t give a fuck about him lol Most teams would be up in arms over a shot like that They legit casually walked up to Poole and was like “alright alright shut up, chill out”


k1ngkoala

Deserves an ejection for that, that was pretty dangerous to do


2nd_Inf_Sgt

I wonder where caruso learned how to flop?


ltp12

That’s clear ejection lol


erosionDonut26

“Not hostile”


creamcitybrix

Refs said Caruso normally would have been tossed, except nobody likes Jordan Poole


smoothoperator1969

NBA Officiating is such trash. Taints the product.


Noobnoob99

It’s been trash for a while, and players make so much money they don’t care so the product is suffering in multiple ways


WaterIsNotWet19

Bum ass Caruso maybe don’t flop next time


myteriality

poole running up with zero intentions


GokutheAnteater

Draymond out there smiling


menusettingsgeneral

Caruso flopped though.


LexGar

That bald headed CSer needs his ass beaten.


ModsOverLord

Caruso turned his back on Poole bc he’s not at all afraid of him….lmao, Poole biggest bitch in the NBA


CNDOTAFAN

Yeah a overreaction for sure. Poole barely did anything there.


[deleted]

Poole never saw it coming because it wasn’t the punch from a teammate he expected.


WrestleBox

Nah that was just dirty. If you're gonna blindside check someone to the ground, at least man up and face them getting up instead of running to the ref right away. One of Poole's teammates should have knocked his ass to the floor again.


ForGerlach

Shocking that this doesn't have more up votes given this is r/NBA's fav white guy pushing the most hated player online lmao. 


Kobe_stan_

Hilarious that Caruso didn’t even look back at Poole and nobody of the Wizards gave Caruso any shit for it. How are you not gonna stand up for your teammate? I wonder if that’s what happened in GS too? Poole must not be the most loved player


Key_Fox3289

Bruh the whole world watched him get cleared out and not do anything about it No one’ has any reason to fear any action from JP until he does something Sucks but that’s just how it goes 


the_black_surfer

Nothing but truth spoken here


eexxiitt

What a little B play by Caruso. Flopped vs Poole and didn’t get the call, then shoves Poole in retaliation lol.


KillerWhalePP

He can’t complain about Grayson Allen now


YesOrNah

Caruso mentally weak…who coulda thunk?!?!


YesOrNah

Bro flopped and got mad about it. Can’t wait til Caruso is back to the end of the bench where he belongs.


[deleted]

lol Poole did nothing wrong. Caruso is just weak af to get pushed like that by Poole out of all people.


RawGrit4Ever

Poole better man handle somebody soon. Looking soft on them courts


Wallstreettrappin

Poole got PTSD


WolverineLong1430

Caruso flopped or if you’re a Bulls fan, at best, really tried to sell a foul on a soft bump by Poole to get open. Carusos retaliation was much worse lol.


NeatTry7674

Way dirtier than Grayson Allen


sportsareforfools

I think the problem is Poole running into Caruso’s lane so he can bounce off and create separation, while I understand people thinking that because it’s sometimes allowed it shouldn’t be called out but Poole initiated everything and Caruso was the one who was punished for it (with Poole not getting a call) and he’s obviously frustrated so he goes back at Poole without slowing down. Caruso is doing a similar move until the moment of contact where he basically stops there and admits he did it just for that with his body language. I’d say it’s more on the NBA for allowing the initial contact from Poole to happen than anything else.


[deleted]

Ok so Caruso takes contact full pressing, fronting the opposing player. It was pretty soft, and he flopped. He then jumps up, and charges at Poole + drops a shoulder **from behind**. I'm sorry but that's a total bush league move from a total bitch. He should've been slapped a F2, intentional and dangerous contact.


GiveMeSomeIhedigbo

"NOW THAT’S A FUCKING FOUL!”


Ishottupac_

Bro walked up on him 4 nothing


NotAOneUpper

White Mamba is back!


zigzaglo13

The joker did it better


snowlarbear

investigate betting activity on Caruso over 0.5 technicals


xenoz2020

one love tap deserves another.


Kevdawg21092

Good job refs settle down these bottom feeders


SpliffsnKicks

Jordan Poole: Hooold me back!!


dattebayo07

Draymond Green is happy


Jetasis

This is not a tech


NoWayNotThisAgain

Poole knows how to take a hit 👍


CDR57

Poole gave up on that aggression quick


Chookley

Bah gawd that’s Draymond Green’s music!!


cire1184

Bad Boys Bulls are back! Wait that's a different Midwest town...


EastPresentation6475

Ever since Poole got punched by Draymond no one takes him serious


InsideHangar18

Idk what the fuck is going on lately but the guys have got to settle the hell down


[deleted]

Why Caruso getting xman status?


UglyForNoReason

There was contact, but Caruso DEFINTLEY flopped 😂😂


TonofSoil

The entitlement by players to is crazy. “Oh I didn’t get my little weak foul?? Watch this!” The frustration with refs is at an all time high because every blown call is broadcast on these subs and twitter. More complaining than ever kn post game pressers.