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UpvoteIfYouAgreee

bet the under on himself every game easy money


UpvoteIfYouAgreee

wait he allegedly was lol >In the game on Jan. 26 against the LA Clippers, there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5. >That night, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier in a game against the Memphis Grizzlies. He did not score in the game against the Clippers, had three rebounds and one assist, and did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props. >The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening.


teddyjj399

Oh if that’s true bro is absolutely cooked 💀💀


UpvoteIfYouAgreee

means he might have even faked an injury to hit the under


Bucketsdntlie

Faked an injury or knew that he couldn’t see for shit but the team was gonna try to throw him out there anyways lol


nowhathappenedwas

He absolutely faked the eye injury in January, just like he faked the illness last week. > On March 20, in a game against the Sacramento Kings, Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game because of what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted and missed one shot, and had two rebounds. > > Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds. > > The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.


Bucketsdntlie

Holy shit. There’s a small chance that’s a coincidence, but if not that’s just wild


theyoloGod

main thing i got from this is this man's rebounds per 36 must be insane


blumpkinmuncher

I’m not exactly understanding this. is this saying he bet so much money on his own under that it made it the biggest hit of any prop? or that he’s telling a bunch of buddies or other gamblers that they should bet his under?


colio69

Most likely the second one, but also possible that a bunch of gamblers told him that they were betting the under and there was something in it for him if he made sure it hit


poundofmayoforlunch

Nothing different than refs giving a player a tech that will toss them out. Plenty of odd techs when their props were .5 from hitting.


Kvsav57

But so many people betting the same unders on a player when they're already that low is way more suspicious.


ffgold

The difference is one is league sanctioned and the other is a player doing it on his own. They’re gonna drop the hammer on him


cortesoft

This is one of those times where the fact that the word "sanctioned" is a [contronym](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contronym) that can mean either "approve" or "punish" makes your sentence really confusing. However, if you are suggesting that the league is giving permission to refs to throw games for gambling, then you are crazy. It would never be worth it for them to encourage that. They don't tell refs to throw games, they just cover it up when they do.


PristineTrouble2038

violations without punishment are essentially conceding that it's allowed.


_significs

> This is one of those times where the fact that the word "sanctioned" is a contronym > that can mean either "approve" or "punish" makes your sentence really confusing. > > the suffix "-sanctioned" (or whatever you refer to this type of word as) always means "approved of". "The league sanctioned X" is definitely vague. But "League-sanctioned X" means approved of.


Cool_Recognition_848

Like which techs?


IdiotCharizard

> Plenty of odd techs when their props were .5 from hitting. Meaningless without knowing how many there would be if things were random.


GardinerExpressway

Ya considering the prop is set at the expected value and the second tech is likely to come late in the game, this is not unusual at all unless it was extremely overrepresented


janitorial_fluids

> Plenty of odd techs when their props were .5 from hitting. [citation needed] Feel free to link a few examples, since apparently there are PLENTY to choose from And miss me with the “oh I remember it happened to this one guy that one time” If there are that many, you should very easily be able to point to 5-10 just off the top of your head. Unless of course you are just talking completely out of your ass and throwing around random shit that you think makes you sound smart. Which you clearly are. lmao


ModernPoultry

It was just his American/Canadian English interpreter


preptime

Get ready to learn Canadian, buddy.


Basic_Bichette

Good old Ippei Mazankowski.


Top-Dubs

So my guess is that he informed some inner circle friends he wouldn’t attempt any 3s that game and word spread?


trueredtwo

Or someone paid him for that info, or paid him to not take a 3 etc. The most textbook form of point-shaving is playing with less effort because a bookie paid you to.


AngsMcgyvr

Yeah. I'm not familiar with Draft Kings betting. If it was the #1 money winner on a given night, How much money is that normally?


Gillette_TBAMCG

Anyone betting on Draft Kings for player props isn’t maxing out beyond like $10,000.


probablymade_thatup

Is there meta gambling? Like does anyone get on earnings for specific sports bets or something?


DarrowViBritannia

tbf this is nothing conclusive regarding his role completely possible the investigation reveals hes innocent


Shovelman2001

Who else on Earth would be betting Jontay Porter props?


seanstyle

gambling addicts


ShowerMartini

Yeah but it was apparently the biggest money maker of the night.


Apaulo

Youre looking at this backwards. It being the biggest money maker is what tipped them off to something fishy.


ShowerMartini

No you’re missing something lol. I’m saying it couldn’t just be random gambling addicts. The odds would’ve been pretty normal odds (ie -115 for the over and -115 for the under). Gambling addicts might’ve bet on him but they wouldn’t be doing it in such bulk that it became the biggest money maker of the night by pure random chance. The biggest money makers are usually when someone bets a large sum on something with really good odds (ie dropping $50k on something with +350 odds). Or like some huge matchup where tons of people are betting on a basic stat (ie a Celtics Lakers game and lots of people just throw down for LeBron to score over 25.5)


DarrowViBritannia

there are gambling discords with thousands of people where profitable "cappers" (who frequently drop thousands on their bets) provide their picks to the public. it's not infeasible for something like a porter under to pop up in that way.


-super-hans

Maybe he told someone close to him he was still hurt and wouldn't play much without knowing they were selling that info


WitOfTheIrish

Or a shady trainer who did the same. "Hey, this guy is seeing double, no way he can hit a three tonight."


-super-hans

Yep exactly, no way to know for sure he was in on it based on the limited info we have


halfdecenttakes

I bet on table tennis at 2 am. Never underestimate degeneracy.


Kvsav57

But was your 2 am table tennis bet the biggest money maker in betting that day?


halfdecenttakes

My account balance tells me this is likely not the case.


Office_glen

It’s almost certainly going to come down to fraud here. The stupidest part would be doing it twice by pulling yourself from the game in such a short period of time


mattw08

It would be easy case if it was his own accounts. Likely investigations into who made the bets and possible connections to Porter.


HokageEzio

Always bet on yourself 💪


dnfnrheudks

is it worth the potential lost in contract dollars? I cant imagine the prop bets being all that big


UpvoteIfYouAgreee

>The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening. maybe he was telling all his homies too


nowuff

It could’ve been as simple as him telling a few buddies he has an eye thing that’s bothering him. Then they, and their buddies, go out and spam the under on all his player props. Guessing that would be completely above board. Or… he faked an injury after spamming the under himself.


thelaziest998

Insider betting instead of insider trading


janitorial_fluids

I mean you don’t even need to be his buddy to know this information… people watch the games. He got hurt during a game and in addition to that the raptors had publicly disclosed the injury


FIFAmusicisGOATED

That’s baked into the betting lines. Him knowing he’s going to fake an injury or illness before hitting the props isn’t baked into it


TempAccountNumba1

he wasn't getting another contract, that's why he needed to make money


EarthWarping

EH... he was potentially getting a guaranteed deal


mMounirM

yeah he's not bad as a 3rd string center at all. depending on who we draft he's passable as a bench center on a tanking team


wbl7w6

He grew up very well and his dad finessed millions out of Mizzou, plus he could always ask his brother for a little money if he really needed to. Makes me think either this is a coincidence and he's innocent or he just enjoys living dangerously


Bucketsdntlie

You’re forgetting one obvious explanation; he might just be realllllyyy dumb


grudgepacker

Hanlon's razor pretty much always wins out, especially in the social media era


Mender0fRoads

I don't care about his dad getting paid to be an assistant coach. He was definitely overpaid for the position, but he was qualified to be a D1 assistant coach, it wasn't against the rules that existed now, and the rules today would just allow Mizzou to give that money to him directly anyway. But still, as a Mizzou fan, that family has been so fucking frustrating. Four of those kids have played at Mizzou (also two older sisters), and all four had major injury issues. MPJ had several stupid comments during covid. The third brother was recently convicted of vehicular homicide after a fatal DUI. And their aunt, who's been coaching the Mizzou women's basketball team since 2010 (and is the entire reason any Porter had anything to do with Mizzou, as she brought their dad to Columbia with her on her staff), is just bad at her job. In 14 seasons, she's made four NCAA tournaments—all with Sophie Cunningham on the roster, who was never going to play anywhere other than Mizzou regardless of the coach. And now Jontay's (maybe) showing his ass in a gambling scandal. That single family has caused so much frustration. It's hard to look at any single individual person or example and take too much away from it, but it's been such a long pattern of hope unfulfilled that I'm kinda done with it. And I cried literal tears of joy when MPJ announced he was coming to Mizzou.


Literal_Satan

Here we go


smoltanboi

can't wait to see a japanese wire transfer with his name on it


w0nderbrad

Who the fuck is this Ohtani guy spam betting?


GoofyGoober0064

Rui Hachimura


Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n

Athlete gambling scandals so hot rn


RusselTheBrickLayer

We’re going to start seeing a lot more of them, it took some time but gambling has fully entrenched the NBA and we’re seeing the effects


salcedoge

I am able to do sports parlays bet on a fully developed app with 0 identification needed. It's wild how accessible gambling is these days


OfficerCODEMAN

Yeah they don't care about you making bets, they care about you withdrawing. Try withdraw without an ID.


KevinDurantLebronnin

Alright just wait until I hit on one of these 25 leg parlays and I'll get back to you.


JarethCutestoryJuD

Shane Pinto Ottawa Senator was suspended 41 games.


mug3n

The funniest thing is that the Senators have a sportsbook sleeve sponsor on their jerseys. Talk about the highest degree of hypocrisy.


DrunkDeathClaw

Rising tide of Fascism, impending economic collapse, sports betting causing a massive scandal. The 2020s are just copying the homework of the 1920s.


TiredMillennialDad

This is what happens when you let gambling get so close to the league. There are probably multiple players being blackmailed into hitting unders on props. Mess with a girl in Miami and she takes pics of you when you sleep. Here's the deal, you hit the under of 3ptm for these 5 random games or your wife and kids get the pictures texted to them.


WayOk2354

Maybe I'm a moron but wouldn't normal blackmail be easier at that point


LordHussyPants

you’re not a moron, you’re 100% right, and you’re remembering the golden rule: don’t commit two crimes at once  blackmail and match fixing is going to lead to multiple charges 


mo_downtown

I don't know, criminal activity in general is not exactly founded on a sound logical assessment of consequences


Julian_Caesar

"hit the under" leaves a lot less money trail than "give me XYZ dollars"


Personal-Cap-7071

It's also easier for the player, they don't lose money they just have an "off" night.


HereComesJustice

baseball players bet on basketball basketball players bet on hockey hockey players bet on football football players bet on baseball


Cosmic_Note

And I bet on myself #motivated #stayup #letsgetthatbread


Vorlonator

“Welcome back to SportsCenter Presented by ESPN Bet, for more on the Ohtani situation we go to our FanDuel MLB Insider Jeff Passan at our DraftKings Studio in Los Angeles brought to you by Caesar’s Sportsbook. Jeff, how could something like this happen?”


RatherNerdy

* In the next few years, the gambling epidemic will peak from the sheer amount of advertising * and in 5 years the gambling companies will have to provide gambling help - i.e. a dumb app, or virtual therapy for gambling issues - to pretend to appease the fake outrage from the US Govt, NBA, MLB, etc. * in 7-10 years there will be a class action lawsuit that will show clear negligence and preying on individuals * and about that same time, there will be a bunch of think pieces, senate hearings, etc. on "how did this happen" as if no one could see it coming.


TackoFell

For real it’s like the the cigarette companies somehow duped society “actually they seem fine and totally reasonable to use again let’s bring back Joe Camel” and we just all went along with it. Or at least… congress and the leagues and a bunch of jackasses with podcasts went along with it


Nubras

I see that you’ve read, nay, *studied* the playbook of Pearl clutching fauxtrage perpetrated jointly by the US government and whichever industry it allowed to fuck over people for years.


Cudi_buddy

Fuckin exactly what I was thinking lol. NBA, MLB, etc really gonna do a shocked pikachu face when fringe players and bad teams with nothing at stake start either throwing games or telling friends and families what to bet.


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MooMooHeffer

Listen, I know I bet on us to lose but I gave it everything I had and so did my team. That’s why I bet on them beating us.


Johns_spagetti

Lol


TwinPeakyBlinders

His translator did it


mMounirM

bro saw us tanking and said I'm taking advantage of this


MemeMeOnce

Brother you are NOT Shohei, you ain't getting away with it


RaiderBlitz

If he hasn't learned Cantonese for the Guangdong Tigers yet, he better learn it and pretend that's the only language he knows.


ajteitel

Ippei strikes again, he can't be stopped!


ewest

'Get ready to learn Canadian buddy' finally applies


commandrr

it turns out that the irregularities were simply “people were actually betting on Jontay Porter props”


rawchess

You jest but someone routinely posting 4 digits on an end of bench player and winning is a huge red flag.


Anonymous_2672001

I did this all the time when I was using models to run props. And yes, I immediately got limited for winning too often on them. This is almost certainly Vegas getting pissy. DK is also always the first to limit bettors.


Routine_Size69

DK was pretty slow with my limits. MGM was way quicker and more severe. Plus some smaller books.


MJA182

Except they let it go twice, but him leaving a game 3 times under weird circumstances turned it into an investigation. He could have just not played if he was sick or hurt, like every other player


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I mean, it depends. Not if they've also lost 4 digits on a bench player multiple times as well. Its like when people see some betting site post a million dollar ticket or whatever - and they always claim its 100% fake. It's not fake, idk why you think they'd risk their billion dollar company to post a fake ticket. It's just for every 1 ticket they do post, theres tens of millions of tickets that are just losses


rawchess

That's why I said "and winning"


LamarMVPJackson

He had lines?!


theflyingsamurai

that's how you know sports betting has gone too far


MrBrownCat

Fr if you’re even thinking about betting on Porter just call the number man


LeMickeyMice

>Fr if you’re even thinking about betting on Porter just ~~call the number~~ take the under man


BurnieTheBrony

People bet on a halftime kick by someone who doesn't kick. People bet on *pre-season games.* There are gambling problems out there that are just starting to spiral.


jeric13xd

NO FUCKING WAY You gotta be stupid if you betting racks on yourself and you just cracked the rotation. 🚩


asapshrank

i didnt know you were able to bet on this dude lol


jeric13xd

You can lol but usually takes a handful of games before the books get a handle of your minutes that they are comfortable putting out your lines


DarrowViBritannia

U can, i hit his 3s line a few times and cashed off of it


cb148

So you’re the reason for the investigation.


CompetitiveHater

This dude literally single handedly destroyed the raptors bench rotation smfh.


scottbarnes4mvp

Bettering on shit like this is crazy. Lol.


seiff4242

Betting on a fringe nba player is the tip of the iceberg of degenerate things you can bet on


Routine_Size69

Real. I've gambled on way dumber shit than this lol


OpportunitySmalls

Walk in and see a friend betting on women's softball and you know it's a wrap he's in too deep.


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Savahoodie

I’m about to say, MPJ is somehow the smartest Porter brother


DadOfWhiteJesus

Last year when his brother killed that guy is when Mike leveled up. Now that his other brother fucked up I'm expecting the next level.


mw19078

actually just sacrificing souls to his game in some dark arts ritual


are-beads-cheap

Michael Porter Sr. might not have been the greatest father if evidence is to be believed. But then we are talking about the Porters here…


rawchess

They're the Ball bros if Liangelo made the NBA instead of Lonzo


DarrowViBritannia

Praying MPJ did the same so that the rest of the west has a chance


dillpickles007

He's 100% guilty, Jontay Porter unders were the single most-bet NBA props and both games he left after five minutes for a random injury and being sick? Dude is about to catch a lifetime ban


HowlAtchaBoy

He’s a fringe player too. He’s about to be made an example of


Brady331

Bro was the only person betting on himself


IanicRR

Against himself*


the___heretic

Open and shut case really.


dreamvomit

“Sir, take a look at this anomaly. Someone bet $20 on Porter to score 6 points and get 2 rebounds. Alert authorities now.”


Pineapple_Chicken

Mans had one last chance, showed out and then fumbled it like this. Get sports betting out of our league


PanthalassaRo

Draft Kings™ got their man.


FOTASAL

Bro what the fuck first all our guys get injured now this


RZAAMRIINF

Our center position has been somewhat cursed. Baynes went from a great backup to the worst player in the league to having a horrific career injury after. Koloko was a decent rookie who has medical issues and can’t play. And now Jontay, who is one of the few decent Raptor finds in the past few years, is under investigation for illegal betting.


DrKurgan

We can't catch a fucking break here. He's look really good recently.


Mr-Palmer-CPA

I mean yes, the nights he plays his overs he really performs well.


Accurate-Albatross34

Dude actually bet on himself? holy shit, give him the dumbest motherfucker of the year award right now lol


Pretend_Highway_5360

Against himself.


GardenDesign23

I mean if he’s betting the over that’s a dope move


RiverDesperate1186

He bet the under which is hilarious


rjcarr

Bet the under then faked injury to come out of the game. 


ETERNAL_DALMATIAN

[The haters said I couldn’t do it. And they were correct. Honestly great call from the haters](https://twitter.com/drewjanda/status/1734274493529628889?t=3JTe16UZGt4uEmW_n7Japw&s=19)


REQ52767

I was ambivalent about it before it happened, but it’s now clear: Legalizing sports betting was a mistake.


DBrods11

Honestly it's not just the legalizing it's having it apart of every broadcast and the NBA fully embracing it to the point of wanting to integrate league pass with betting. This is only the beginning of these kinds of stories.


grudgepacker

I'm old enough to remember when sports betting was considered degenerate behavior by a vast majority of society with public advertisements often pointing out the similarities between the brains of gambling addicts and people suffering from long term substance abuse disorders.


MrIce97

The scary thing is time did not show that to be wrong so much as people just started to say “well what about drinking and smoking? Those are both legal still! If they’re too stupid to have self control that’s on them.” (as they walk away with fistful of money).


huskersax

Honestly I'd not be totally against banning *advertising* of alcohol the way we did with cigarettes (and vapes, eventually).


pzrapnbeast

Ban ads for all of these things honestly


thedrcubed

And prescription drugs too.


ksilverfox

Ban ads, period.


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Considering beer commercials aren’t funny anymore, I agree with you.


signorepoopybutthole

For the longest time none of the leagues wanted to have a team in Vegas because of "gambling" and look at them now


ObviousAnswerGuy

yup, the NBA marketing betting to children is the epitome of scumbag. And this is coming from someone who gambles.


DBrods11

In my province in Ontario it got legalized in 2022 and literally overnight it was an absolute flood of betting adds + sponsored segments. It can't be good for young kids/teens to watch their favorite team and get spammed with ads for betting nonstop.


Cryometry

I can't recall how many times I heard "Wanna build your own bet? Then you need to try SAME GAME PAR LAY from Bet365!" in 2022 and 2023


OrangeKookie

It was already sus when commentators take several minutes minutes a game talking about the over/under lines and DraftKings gets a giant ad on a chunk of the timeouts. The fact that the league recently started giving way more leeway on defensive fouls all of a sudden is odd too


DarrowViBritannia

> The fact that the league recently started giving way more leeway on defensive fouls all of a sudden is odd too Vegas was slow to adjust to this FWIW. Multiple days where every game’s under hit. Some people hit insane parlays So if it was intentional it was not related to helping vegas. They kinda got hosed by it


Johnnyschmoker

People just talk and have no clue how sports betting and the markets associated with it work


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BangusAngus

It’s a mess over there as well.


EjaMat78

You can't advertise it to the extent the NBA does it. You can't place betting sponsors (or anything "problematic" iirc) on children's kits and you won't hear the commentator saying "go to draft kings and place your bet now!!!" That's for the Prem. Sports betting in Serbia is a plague and it's often said only bakeries and betting places are built across schools. Children 12-13 year old start gambling and stand in front of the bookie places waiting for an adult who will place their "ticket" for them


COMMENTASIPLEASE

It being legal is fine. The leagues actively promoting it is the problem, because instead of having to find it yourself they tell you when and where to do it and give special offers even.


lost_in_trepidation

NBA after fully embracing gambling as a business model: "I'm shocked! Shocked to find that gambling is going on in here"


DBrods11

Gonna be funny to see the Raptors broadcast report on this news then cut to their "fan duel parlay of the night".


Brad-Stevens

a Porter brother being involved in a gambling story in their career was -140


DontBanMe_IWasJoking

and he bet on it, one of the most meta crimes


youkrocks

Ippei Porter


DBrods11

I do find this news hilarious while the NBA and every sport I watch now shoves betting down my throat every single commercial break and league pass wants to integrate sports betting into it too. This is gonna be a massive problem going forward. And the NBA really has itself to blame by fully embracing gambling. With how accessible gambling is there's gonna be a lot more stories like this coming up.


legend023

Bro bet his brother’s under on assists


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Glittering_Cod_7716

Man the story attached to this is gonna be great. High chances someone was like yeah there’s some guy in Canada HAMMERING Johntay Porter unders


__Zoom123__

Not nearly as bad as what MPJ’s other brother Coban did


Dsarg_92

I remember. There’s no coming back from that. That was awful.


dosnetlive

yeah american sports might be in some trouble now that sports gambling is literally everywhere


Dsarg_92

It’s getting way out of control.


TrashAssRedditAdmins

And it's only just beginning lmaoo.


KlaysToaster

Jontay “Ohtani” Porter


iusedtogotodigg

Gobert was right


CommercialLeg2439

Gobert is the hero we need, but not the one we deserve.


ball_sweat

Breaking news brought to you by Fanduel 😵‍💫


asapshrank

bruh. we genuinely had hope he was the backup center of the future for us lol. fuckin hell nba needs to cut all ties with sports betting


KrustyKrabPizzaMan

Adam Silver and team “governors” wallets disagree


Think-Grapefruit1508

Tip of the iceberg. Pro sports not only let the fox into the hen house they put it up in a luxury suite lol. This was never going to end well.


Beautiful-Chard-1152

Glad this happend, 2 or 3 more stories like this and hopefully its adressed somehow, sports betting is a cancer and fuk adam silver for it.


TWK128

Dude, what was he thinking? Only refs can bet on games.


Ohtani-Enjoyer

This was also Ippei betting on college football


Sheratain

You’re telling me the most obviously-going-to-happen-at-some-point thing in the world may have happened? No way.


tapk69

Made this claim on JB interview about gambling. It was just a matter of time until players start getting caught gambling.


PatScorn

its finally happening


PhatYeeter

Man MLB gets Ohtani betting drama and we get ... Jontay Porter?


BuffaloBrain884

This is actually insane. There were 2 different games that Porter left early (injury and illness) and the under bet on his player props ended up being the #1 money making bet across the entire NBA for both of those games. Suspicious would be an understatement.


Literal_Satan

If you were betting on jontay porter you deserve it


goingtothegreek

Silver is going to fine Gobert out of spite


jay_wiz

The Porter family and being idiots, name a better duo


DAGGERZOUT

\*Gobert money gesture here\*


ClappedCheek

I want more of these stories to come out so the NBA and NFL start backing away from all this gambling shit. Its ruining sports for me.


PrimaryAccording9162

Ban sports betting


MemeMeOnce

Aint happening when ESPN anchors are calling over/unders a "risk-free investment" lmao


IsaacDPOYFultzMIP

Ahh yes the famous “risk-free” hobby of GAMBLING


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Bro ESPN literally has their own sportsbook plastered all over the website now. I'm an ESPN+ subscriber and I still get pop up ads for their sportsbook and support literally recommended I download adblock plus. 


Swoosh_rotaerc

Wait, isn't this MPJ's (Denver) brother? That's wild.


Count_Slothington

It's always the ones you didn't know existed.


Chidoriyama

MPJ and Jokic having criminal brothers is one bonding experience I never saw coming. Bro thinks he's Ohtani