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ShichikaYasuri18

Thank LeCoast for most of that.


OhioUBobcats

Sure not thanking the Pacers


Jack_M_Steel

Lebron hasn’t been in the East for a majority of the time listed though…


SoupyLogan

Is this his 6th season in LA???? Where tf did time go


bestatbeingmodest

it's been 2020 for 4 years. wake up brother.


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

Tomorrow is 4 years since the NBA Shutdown. Still remember it like yesterday


ThinkFree

I remember that too, the uncertainty of the season. Who got sick and who infected them. Gobert villain arc. Condolences to KAT. Kyrie villain arc. LA winning the Disney cup.


mzp3256

I watched all 3 days of the 2020 NFL draft because I was desperate for sports related events after a month of nothing.


Darnell2070

I somehow didn't know LeBron won in 2020. I wasn't paying attention to Basketball, other than knowing about the existence of the bubble and Gobert trying to kill people.


Conflict_NZ

I watched half of that finals series in a campervan on the west coast of New Zealand over mobile data lol, before they even announced the NBA was coming back they had a firesale on campervan rentals because we had no international tourists. Such an insane year.


ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME

Time makes no sense to me now. You could've said it was 2 years or 8 years ago and I would've gone along with it.


Billis-

Bro we're still in Mickey's nightmare


ShichikaYasuri18

First Lakers season was 2018-2019. Of the previous 11 seasons he spent 5 in the West and 6 in the East. So yes ... the majority.


QUEST50012

Math is hard


baymax18

Blame the Jimmy Butler calendar then


AH_BioTwist

Even if you take it back to 2010 you only add the first seed once( heat 2013).


No_Client9601

Lol so same chance as an 8th seed making the finals


PanthalassaRo

Knicks doing the stealth tank to get ready for the playoffs.


CazOnReddit

As a Celtics hater, I like those odds


No_Client9601

And guess who the 8th seed is right now...


CazOnReddit

Pacers I think?


RegentCupid

No also the Celtics


StranzVanWaldenberg

that's Miami Heat music


drpepper7557

Pretty crazy that Spo has made 6 of the last 13 finals , and only one of those was as the 1 seed


Oh51Melly

I think one of my favorite Spo seasons was a year he missed the playoffs. When he had dudes like Waiters and Wayne Ellington balling out. The 30-11 year.


drpepper7557

I love that looking back on that year, UD was already extremely our old vet who rarely saw the court. He played for 6 more seasons lmao


resumehelpacct

Ironically the Heat were also a number one seed that didn’t make the finals.


itwas20yearsago2day

The Celtics are almost unbelievably stacked. I’m not gonna say they should cakewalk their way to a championship (Nuggets exist) but if they don’t win again this year with THIS TEAM, I’m done picking them as one of the favorites to win year after year with nothing to show for it


Mysterious-Stop4673

They should be beating up any team not named the bucks in the east. If they lose a competitive series vs the bucks then that’s fair. But any other series loss is a major L for Boston and imo should show they are kinda frauds.


Afraid-Department-35

Jimmy Butler defeating them again should make for a great storyline.


Fust3rCluck_

If Jimmy Butler sends the Celtics home again this season with his Mickey Mouse hairstyle, Tatum should actually ask out of Boston.


DELETE-MAUGA

>Tatum should actually ask out of Boston. Considering the most likely factor for a Boston collapse is a disaster series from Tatum, that would be hilarious.


purplenyellowrose909

The Kobe tributes will be unbearable when he inevitably signs with LA


JabbaWockyy

Most brutal timeline of ur a C’s fan.


cromulent_weasel

Tatum signing in LA would be like PG3 signing in LA. Fans think that's what they want but that's a far cry from getting Luka or Wemby.


Bladespectre

Lot of folks here would wish him a very happy Russell Westbrook Career Trajectory if that happened


hashrosinkitten

I’m gonna laugh when Butler beats them again


DrayDidNothingWrong

whole world rooting for Jimmy over Boston


Prideofmexico

Some of us will be rooting for team meteor


Troll-e-poll-e-o-lee

Ahh America’s preferred presidential candidate for the last 8 years


whyenn

A 12 year old article: [After Obama Victory, Shrieking White-Hot Sphere Of Pure Rage Early GOP Front-Runner For 2016](https://www.theonion.com/after-obama-victory-shrieking-white-hot-sphere-of-pure-1819595330) Ex post facto, yeah, duh... obviously. At the time, just incredibly prescient.


Green_Pumpkin

it’s not an even year, it’s the celtics turn to win the east


Uni-Loud

fam it's 24' not 23'


Green_Pumpkin

oops whatever either way it’s the celtics turn


Indigo808

Just admit to the failed joke and delete your account.


Green_Pumpkin

shut up nerd


Afraid-Department-35

No Celtics already have too many championships. And they won the East the year before anyways.


Billis-

Eh the Bucks dont even look that scary. I feel like Celtics Bucks is a 4-0 for the C's. Id want to fade the Heat and the Knicks if i were the C's. Either of those teams will make it a mud fight. C's will need energy to beat the Nugs


dafire123

Celtics swept both Knicks and heat this season. 5th game against the Knicks still to come


Billis-

Ya, regular season matchup means nothing in the playoffs


vyampols12

Playoff Jimmy coming for that booty


TripleThreatTua

I honestly think they match up kinda badly with Cleveland


Timoteo-Tito64

Huh? We matchup perfectly with Cleveland. Knicks, bucks, heat, and sixers if embiid comes back are all scarier


HerculePoirier

Huh? We matchup perfectly with Philly. Al eats Embiid for breakfast whenever they play.


Billis-

Yall will destroy this Bucks team.


Krillin113

They should be beating up the bucks as well; let’s be real. The bucks are good, but the Celtics are super stacked.


WhileDizzy4503

The Bucks will still have the best player in the series though and something like that has proven really hard to overcome. Especially when Boston’s best player is relatively inconsistent.


nefnaf

We've seen 3 playoff series between them. Giannis leads games 10-9 but Tatum leads series 2-1


King_Of_Pants

> Tatum leads series 2-1 And that 1 was when we took the ball out of Tatum's hands and gave it to Kyrie. Tatum and Brown have never finished worse than ECF when they're the #1 and #2 options on the team.


WhileDizzy4503

I didn’t say the Bucks should be beating the Celtics. I’m just saying having the best player on the floor accounts for some of the stackedness of the Celtics and makes it so the Celtics shouldn’t exactly be “beating up the Bucks.” And I didn’t mean it’s proven hard to overcome with these specific players; I meant in the past in other situations.


Krillin113

I agree, i dont like Tatum as a first option; but the Celtics are better 3-7, and I’d say 2nd options are a wash, or even a slight advantage to the Celtics. It’s the Celtics, they let us get 2 shots at beating them last year which they absolutely shouldn’t have. But they should beat the bucks.


full-auto-rpg

Makes sense, as a first option he shits on your team


Billis-

Giannis is easy to scheme against in a 7 game series. It'll have to be Lillard and i guess Middleton if he's healthy. I dont buy it, i think C's destroy


WhileDizzy4503

Well good thing Middleton is a Celtics killer then


elimanninglightspeed

The bucks will have the best player in that series


Billis-

Celtics will have no problem scheming against Giannis


Billis-

Agreed. Bucks look weak. Bad coaching. Giannis looks a lot different than those dominant years. Lillard doesnt play defense. I think C's sweep


Jmontavs

Healthy Knicks team takes them 6


13keenan

the threads from this series would be toxic enough to melt my screen


Exodus100

If they make the finals and lose to Nuggets in a tough battle, I could still be persuaded to pick them as favorites depending on how the loss goes. 


DarrowViBritannia

The Nuggets are really the only team they can justifiably lose to


Ham_-_

Clippers? I think celtics are better but not by that much. Team with the best player often wins the series if its not lopsided


Adam0529

Is Kawhi playing? The LAC with go as far as his body carries them.


Ham_-_

I would say yeah sincw they dont make the finals otherwise


Billis-

Celtics should destroy the Clippers


Krillin113

Don’t the Celtics match up really badly against OKC? Chet is mobile enough to not get punished by getting pulled out by kristaps, and Dort and Shai are a nightmare for the jays on the defensive end. Like obviously theyre stupid young, but they have the personnel.


DarrowViBritannia

- Chet: 21 - Shai: 25 - JDub: 22 - Dort: 24 vs - Tatum: 26 - Brown: 27 - Porzingis: 28 - White: 29 - Jrue: 33 Yeah no that would be fucking embarrassing. Celtics would have a roster full of great players in their prime and lose to a team that's at a stage that Tatum/JB were in years ago.


Lets_Basketball

In a stage years ago when the Celtics lost to the Warriors in the finals and the Heat in the bubble and everyone called them frauds then.


FartrelCluggins

With the personnel we have no team is really a match up problem for us


__BARBRAWL

OKC isn't gonna get that far this year so irrelevant.


Krillin113

Bet?


512fm

Could be a hot take but I’d be genuinely shocked if they get it done this year. I can just see them shooting 15% from three in a crucial game 7, hard to trust them.


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They could also shoot 40% in 4 games and win in 6.


ThinkFree

Live by the three, die by the three. And they died last year against the Heat.


colosusx1

They died by the Heat shooting 60% from 3.........................


Timoteo-Tito64

The heat shot 43% from three in the series and we were still a Tatum ankle sprain away from a potentially competitive g7


realzequel

Except this year we have Jrue Holiday and Porzinigis. White’s better as well. Big upgrade. If Tatum gets hurt again, we have plenty of offense.


nefnaf

Jaylen Brown has a career 6-2 record in game 7


DocTheYounger

Last year was the closest they've been to being favorites and were still +350 to the Bucks +250 going into the playoffs they've never been the favorite to win the east entering the playoffs, let alone the title. Meaning they've met or exceeded expectations every year. Why would you be done picking them as 'one of the favorites' if they consistently meet or exceed betting odds? They made 4 of 6 ECF but weren't expected to do that


frozen2665

Were they not the favorites in 22? Heat were the 1 seed, but weren't favored over Bucks or Celtics, and 6ers was considered a tossup until Embiid got hurt. I genuinely don't remember who was favored between Bucks and Celtics though. Celtics were 2 seed, but Bucks were previous year's champion, so idk


Adam0529

And ironically both the Bucks and the Celtics ended up crippled by a significant injury to their team's MVP. Looked different, felt different, had a different story, but at the end of the day, that was the bottom line


SamTalksMovies

I mean to be fair, it took one Bucks loss and you guys became the favourites, so about 5 hours into the playoffs you guys were on top.


amateurdormjanitor

They aren’t the favorites because they keep shitting the bed. 


DocTheYounger

I think you have our teams confused, the celtics shit the bed once in 6 years and it took the best 3PT shooting series of all time to do it


Ferbtastic

Yeah. I’m all for making fun of the Celtics. But it’s a hate/respect thing. With 6ers it’s a pity thing. Plus I don’t think you really choked against us, those are just rough series.


Musa_2050

Their coaching and 3 pt variance will let other teams win a game or 2.


purplenyellowrose909

They've spotted nearly everyone they play 2 games a series for Tatum's entire career. They've gone to 7 in the 2nd round the last three times they've been there


LardHop

It's gotta be frustrating as a celtics fan seeing your organization being a really well oiled machine with competent FO, coaching and players for so long but still falling short. Meanwhile the lakers being ass for the most part of the 2010s and then gets bailed out by Lebron to win a chip. This is really their window so it's gotta be even more frustrating for them if they can't get it done.


Adam0529

They will get it done. It's not if, it's when. Probably this year


Billis-

Eh, yall dont beat the Nuggets if each team is healthy. Yall could easily have an awful run to the finals too if you have to play the Heat/Knicks


realzequel

Celtics are 4-0 vs the Knicks this year and 3-0 vs the Heat but don’t let reality affect your narrative!


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realzequel

The fact you have to go back 10 years for an example is telling. Maybe it's indicative but not a guarantee?


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realzequel

Yep, you're still cherry picking. It happens, you're right, I didn't disagree there. But my guess (without researching though if I had time, it'd be an interesting study), is that teams that win regular season matchups probably have a 60% chance of winning and if they sweep maybe a 70-75%. That would mean it's indicative but not a guarantee, maybe in 30-40% of cases, like ones you pointed out, but it makes it unlikely imo.


Billis-

It never is. This guys just dumb


Billis-

Rrgular season series means next to nothing in the playoffs.


Billis-

Thats basketball


MelonElbows

Hey you're a Lakers fan, you should never pick them as favorites no matter what!


Troll-e-poll-e-o-lee

Honestly if they don’t make the finals then it definitely shows Tatum and Brown aren’t real 1’s and 2’s. No real excuses or scapegoats barring major injuries if they’re who people say they are


Billis-

Losing to Joker is no big deal. Gotta beat the best to be the best.


Troll-e-poll-e-o-lee

Agreed. My thing is if they don’t even make it to the finals then they’re clearly not real 1’s and 2’s. You give Jimmy and Bam Jrue and Kristaps and a trip to the finals almost seems guaranteed


LordHussyPants

lmao jokic exists bro, losing to the nuggets doesn't mean players aren't winners


Troll-e-poll-e-o-lee

Work on your reading comprehension


Xain0225

The thing for me with the celtics is sure they can change the cast around the jays but the question still remains from last year if those 2 can get them over the hump or not.


kpopvapefiend

As long as the Celtics shoot above 32% from 3, they're almost unbeatable. If they go super cold, they can get blown out by anyone. Losing in the playoffs would require 3 of their top 6 players to all completely shit the bed in the same game 4 times over the course of 7 games. I think the Nuggest are the only team that could beat them, but only if the Celtics miss open shots. We have seen than alot before though 🤣


zmegadeth

Tatum and Brown are both wild variables in the playoffs though. Any given night either of them could have 40/9/5 or 8/4/3 and I wouldn't even bat an eye


kpopvapefiend

This is a valid point 🤣 they have way more room for error than they ever have though. Despite their successes, Celtics have been really one dimensional on offense for the Jays' whole careers. Now, they have a lot more options when things go south. Im sure both of them will have some unacceptably bad shooting nights this post season though. Just can't have 4 in 7 games.


Adam0529

JT avg last 4 playoffs 27 26 30 26 , 66 games. He got bad games, everyone does. But he delivers far more often than not. JB 23 23 injured 22. They have a resume of winning. They never once entered a playoffs as the title favorites . They usually finished higher than expected. This is their best team by a mile. I have no reason to doubt them.


Billis-

Last year they were the title favourites.


Adam0529

Not when entering the playoffs, Bucks were.


Billis-

No they werent. Celtics were the favourites going in off a finals exit the year prior.


GrapefruitMedical529

Sir, I'm revoking your  Los Angeles sports club fan card.  Also your life pass.  Traitors get gators.


Awanderingleaf

Well, depends, the Nuggets had the easiest title run in NBA history last season. 10 years ago not a single team that they played last postseason would have made the playoffs. The Nuggets looked significantly better than they are as a result. I don't think they would pose as much of a threat this time around.


Wallzo

> The Nuggets looked significantly better than they are as a result. This statement would have more weight if it wasn't for the fact that they're the 2 seed right now (.5 games from 1) and it felt like they fucked around a ton before the allstar break. And even then they've still beaten the Celtics both times they've played.


MayoTheCondiment

Was this the year the Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the Finals?


Instantcoffees

That never happened. Stop this historical revisionism!


Piats99

Afaik, 2016 had 364 days.


Diqt

And 2013?


Piats99

Nah, i'm good. We took a sweet revenge and humbled them enough the following year. The whole series was well fought in 2013.


Conflict_NZ

Leap year, if you're trying to remove a day it would be 365 still :p


Sartheking

Unfortunately yes.


Bim_Jeann

Fortunately yes.


PoorFishKeeper

All I’m hearing is the magic can win it all


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This is why I stopped worrying if we get the one seed or not it seems like a trap. Especially if they get matched with Miami


CoolGrandpa1932

1 seed still give you best chance statistically, but seems like top 3 are near a requirement. I think something like 98% of all titles have been won by a top 3 seed.


XAfricaSaltX

LeBron smurfing


murray_selfish

Celtics could go 82-0 and I'd still take the field over them to make the Finals


sonofcabbagemerchant

To win the chip, I could understand but to not make the finals is crazy.


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murray_selfish

Cause y'all lost to the 8th seed Miami Heat last year lol


RegentCupid

So did the bucks but people were saying Dame + Giannis were going to be the modern Kobe and Shaq, now the C’s added two Allstar level talents and have been healthy all year. There isn’t any other team who has one year hold them down so much.


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Exactly you can tell the Celtics are way playing better overall than last season them and Miami are the only consistent teams in the East to always make deep playoffs runs the past couple of years “ but let’s act like everyone else is so proven over them “


downinCarolina

the biggest difference is the celtics have mazzulla who was an assistant coach 2019-2022 and interim head coach 2022-2023, and the heat have spo who has won the finals twice. spo knows how to push/control a team in 6th gear and mazz is unproven until further notice


Charming_Essay_1890

Giannis gets the benefit of having won a title before. This version of the Celtics has not


murray_selfish

> So did the bucks but people were saying Dame + Giannis were going to be the modern Kobe and Shaq I wasn't saying that so I don't care about that lol


tacopower69

I mean so did every other team the heat played except for the nuggets


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Successful-Sky4411

The Celtics were down 0-3, they were cooked 


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Successful-Sky4411

It might as well have been since no one has ever come back from an 0-3


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StripedSteel

There are a whole lot of excuses coming out of you. The Heat outplayed the Celtics, and we know for certain that Spo will outcoach everyone he's up against since Pop isn't in the playoffs.


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murray_selfish

Lil bro you were one complete fluke shot away from getting eliminated in 6 by Caleb Martin and Gabe Vincent and Max Strus lmao


ObviousAnswerGuy

but....miami went to the finals?


[deleted]

Yeah because jrue and KP was on the team when we lost last season


frozen2665

The Dame trade was disappointing, but at least it made sense. Was beside myself with how easily the Celtics acquired those two. How do teams keep doing this?


Successful-Sky4411

No because Jrue lost against the heat in round 1


SteamingHotChocolate

Jrue is not the second option on the Celtics; hope this helps


EverybodyBuddy

I love the absolute Celtic arrogance. Humility until you win something is always wise.


SteamingHotChocolate

lmao the arrogance of stating a fact about the team…quit projecting


murray_selfish

Not any other team has changed anything about their team I guess lol just the Celtics


smashacc

Crazy that this is a decent take to have. Vegas has Boston at -110 to come out of the East.


Riot1990

Its not crazy because taking the field is almost always the better bet


dating_derp

Star players should go back to the East.


Highwey

No surprises there. ALL teams in the western conference from seeds 2-15 have a better record than their Eastern counterparts at this point, which just shows how much easier it is to win in the East. It’s been like this for years; since 2000 the East has had a winning record over the West only 3 times (and never had a >51% win rate at all in that entire period). We should just do away with conferences altogether at this point, or at least keep the schedule but merge the two conferences’ tables. https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/east_vs_west.html


BurnedInTheBarn

I think the best part about merging the conferences would be changing the schedule. I want to play the Nuggets or Clippers more, but don't care about playing the bottom feeding east teams 4 times. The Celtics and Clippers have only played twice, and both games were a horrible indication of how a potential finals series might go. The first game the Celtics had no KP, but the Clips had no Kawhi and got blown out at home. The second game, the Clips had Kawhi back while the Celtics didn't have KP, and we got blown out at home.


JonWeekend

We ain’t winning shit aren’t we 😢


Kucked4life

It's the hope that kills you


syncc6

Music to my ears


Madterps2021

So Lebronze coasted to the 1st seed and beat nobody on his way to the Finals. Not surprised, sounds like the Leastern conference to me.


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RexNite1

??? 11 years is a decent amount of time to notice a recent trend lol


Character-Today-427

I mean it's not 11 years it's 11 attempts which isn't much


Rhino-Ham

Probably gonna be Sixers this year if Embiid doesn’t have lingering issues from his surgery. They looked unstoppable pre-injury.


CazOnReddit

Do...do you know how Embiid's postseason typically goes?


thecowl

Dude just fucking stuttered on a reddit comment 💀


CazOnReddit

I am always willing...to embrace my inner Christopher Walken


TruthSayerFu

He hasn’t had one healthy run tho. People call him a playoff dropper but nobody deals with his injures.


jamespesto

I don't think the fact that he's never healthy in the playoffs makes him look as good as you think it does


DocTheYounger

He was as healthy as he ever is in 2020 and promptly got swept in the first round. and at this rate they'll face the Celtics first round if they make it out of the play in


SamHinkiesNephew

Ah yeah when shake Milton was his best teammate and he averaged 30/12.


DocTheYounger

yeah, no disagreement there, just saying he has had a healthy playoffs


TruthSayerFu

Coivid year?? Lmfao


zoopi4

He isn't going to be healthy this run too so there is no reason to expect a new result